If I could have only one, it’d be the fang. It’s highly versatile and relatively affordable when compared to other options on the list. Despite not being BIS for everything, it is adequate for nearly every encounter.
The best weapon in the game accounting for price is blowpipe. 3.5mil and scales are pretty cheap too. Fang is first item to really challenge it in affordable power creep. I suspect in a couple years though when TOA turns into a COX where it is only farmed for one item…the fang will rise in value.
Even post nerf the fang is incredible. I just bought it because i was struggling on a rune dragons task with a zammy hasta and holy crap. went from 2-3 kill trips to 8-9 kill trips no prob. The thing is a beast and it blows my mind how cheap it is. I can't even imagine this thing pre-nerf
I was lucky enough to get a fang on 10kc and it was so wild. I would run fang only barrows and kill them so fast I could leave before the prayer drain almost every time without max melee stats
Pre nerf the thing was even more incredible. What made Jagex nerf it was the outrage it created by being the best weapon at many bosses including Nightmare, Nex, and etc. At the time it was 180m and rising until they nerfed the defense re-roll which Jagex called a “mistake”.
Very useful video. For the level of calculations you completed I feel you could make more videos of these calcs alone. E.g weapon dps: providing information on the top 5 weapons for all cox demi/main bosses etc and different areas. Good video mate
Would be interestinh to see a version of this for people looking into gear progression and rebuilds. This comparison assumes max, or near max, gear. If a person watches this looking at what to possibly rebuild with, they may end up buying a scythe or shadow over a tbow without realizing how other gear factors in. Would be an interesting video to see dps comparisons for the top 5 in different gear tiers. Would also be nice to see certain utility aspects mentioned. Yes, raw dps on harm is high, but you lose the ability to use other spellsbooks. Especially arceuus for thralls/death charge, or ancients for free heals. And specs are so strong that lightbearer is bis over even new dt2 rings at many places, so some weapons have their value increased because of how good their specs are. A lot of factors in this game, and considering everything would be difficult, but could be interesting to see a more in-depth video with new criteria.
Cool vid! I have a t bow, t shadow and fang of course! Gotta have a big bank though! Flipping is they way to go or else ... Sweat haha! Thanks for sharing! Cool info!
The dps includes specs, but I agree that the ZCB spec can be used at many bosses before switching back to your main weapon and that would increase your dps.
I really don't think the shadow is the actual best weapon, since you have to wear a full suit of dog tier armor to use it. Bow has Some defense and Scythes only downside is having to stand in melee
For melee you got rapier and dhlance (stab), blade of saledor(slash), bludgeon, inquisiters mace(crush), d haly for stacking aoes and the fang for high deffence moster. For ranged you got blowpipe, cannon, or t bow. (Cross bow gives probably less slayer xp than melee in most cenarios). If you wanna use magic for slayer you wanna use ancients of course with a kodai wand or a nightmare staff. T shadow has a very high dps for 1 to 1 so it is also very good for some tasks(ex:gargoyles if you dont skip em).
@@andrewhenderson6544 well these are the best option for general slayer in my opinion. Nothing degradeble.... How do you want to to train range without any charges or amo? You want to know what are the best cheap items? Whip, d c bow with broad bolts and ancient staff...
There is no such thing as a non-degradeable magic or range weapon except for corrupted bowfa, but the bowfa isn’t very good without crystal armor (which degrades). They all use some form of “charges”. So melee would have the only actual non-degradable general slayer weapon(s).
Kinda hard to put just a singular weapon for each type, Fang is a good overall choice for melee, Dragon hunter crossbow has marginally more stats than a dragon crossbow, isn't niche like the twisted bow, and is obviously even better against dragons than the Armadyl/Zaryte crossbow. Harmonised staff for mage.
It was just the main dps mate for this vid, but obv the ZCB spec is very useful. I think it was Behe that showed someone maxing range in record time with the ZCB using spec transfer against zebak.
@@LilratbagsOsrs if you are doing one of these vid for spec weapons may i also mention the accursed scepter, it is a range DWH 10% more accurate and also lowers magic lvls, meaning it boosts the shadow even further
Hey man, cool animations and effort on the vid. Sadly i think theres some lack of basic knowledge. Hopefully your more recent vids have fixed most if not all of these issues. Im currently 2 minutes in, and every single sentence you've spoken has been incorrect. Zcb is a dps spec weapon, not a pk weapon. Sang staff is an upgrade to the powered staff lineup after toxic trident. No it is not 2nd bis at vesp portal, never was, never will. Rapier/blade/mace are all single max hit upgrades from the tent whip for each respective styles. No they arent that great, but they technically are bis against single tile npc's that you melee. Fang is a great design. Unfortunately, the majority of the playerbase goes off of feeling rather than math. This has lead players to default use the fang when its most likely worse than a whip, and depending on the defence of the npc, even worse than a dragon scim.
I really hate to keep doing this to you because I really don’t want to criticize your content or discount your hard work running these calcs. However, whatever calc you used is not correct. I ran all of the calcs using typical setups for zammy and sarachnis since the numbers seemed to be off and they were. More specifically your fang calcs we’re about 10-15% higher than the ones I got using the generally accepted bitter/koeke calculator spreadsheet. Now I don’t know the exact gear you might have put in but as a small example mace is better than fang at sarachnis by 5-5.5%. Again I really hate to keep doing this I just don’t want misinformation to spread. Keep up the good work though. ❤
That's absolutely fine mate, the fang I tested against the rapier because I also found the dps calculators to be wrong lol. I actually tested the fang against the rapier so I knew the exact difference at various bosses and the used that to work out other bosses. The reality is the dps calculators are amazing but a 5% discrepancy doesn't surprise me, since their formulas are not 100% perfect but outside of spending 2-3 hours using every weapon at every boss, it's as accurate as we currently have. I used BIS gear and compared the 2 best calculators to each other, amended a few bosses defences that had no stats for some reason and manually ran checks for certain weapons like the tum shadow and fang. If you watch my rapier vs fang video you will see exactly how much the fang is better at certain bosses, but in the dps calculators some of them have the rapier ahead. I think that is just because the mechanics of those two weapons (fang and shadow) are unique, so the calculators aren't perfect which is why I had to amend those.
@@LilratbagsOsrs yeah like I mentioned the bitter/koeke calculator spreadsheet is the most widely accepted for meta dps calcs. You should be able to find it and make a copy. But like I said I don’t want to discredit the work you put in and I know you’ve been over this stuff quite a bit. But I run calcs constantly for people to find the best methods with a given budget. It’s one of my favorite things to do actually. So I apologize but I tend to notice if things are slightly off. Don’t let me discourage you though you’re still doing good work and producing helpful content I’m just a nit picky high level pvmer lol.
I don't think black Chins are technically bis at Kree beacuse of set up time between setting up the melee and the mager after the melee dies. Shadow with a sceptre spec is better actual dps. I think kq might be questionable as well. Shadow is also bis at Zulrah green and red phase, Muspah melee phase.
With the chins I kinda agree but you can also use another weapon after the melee minion dies. But this is the issue with dps calculators, they are a very good guide but can never factor in all these small details like you say and game knowledge is also important. There was a similar result with alchemical hydra and the dps calculators rating melee better than range, but realistically you move to much for melee apart from the final part. However I couldn't alter the numbers so just had to put a note on it. Zulrah I just did the dps against what colour a weapon was best against. The three weapons I ran the most checks on were the arclight, fang and shadow because I'm not completely confident in the results either, due to their unique mechanisms so I appreciate the feedback.
@@LilratbagsOsrs Yeah that's true. Kree'arra is a tough one. Chins + tbow is really good. But also shadow with sceptre spec is probably close behind if not better than straight tbow. It also leaves room for more supplies which lead to longer trips. So dps across the time span of multiple trips, shadow with sceptre probably overtakes. But that's kind of picking at the weeds. Haba
The layout for this video really sucks. I can't follow anything and most of the time I have no idea what your talking about. Probably just a "me" thing
Fang really should have been a raids 4 mega rare.
Its like 35 mill now... Sigh...
Yep, fang and shadow should have been the same drop rate and only come from 300rl and above
@@maximus3384says the main who has never done a raid without max gear
fang not that good even to be rare or expensive ,it's pretty bad ,better than tentacle whip
@@IdropVisionwhat you smoking?
If I could have only one, it’d be the fang. It’s highly versatile and relatively affordable when compared to other options on the list. Despite not being BIS for everything, it is adequate for nearly every encounter.
Na your tripping. T bow homie. Has been and Always will be the best weapon in the game I reckon
If I could only have one I’d have a shadow then sell it to buy a Tbow and a fang
You just always pick the most expensive and sell it to buy everything else lol
@@spotos5154and its surpassed by scythe
Most indepth osrs weapons guide and breakdown ive ever seen, great work!
Thank you mate
The best weapon in the game accounting for price is blowpipe. 3.5mil and scales are pretty cheap too. Fang is first item to really challenge it in affordable power creep.
I suspect in a couple years though when TOA turns into a COX where it is only farmed for one item…the fang will rise in value.
Really doubt that. Purples are rare in cox in general. Not the same at toa
Even post nerf the fang is incredible. I just bought it because i was struggling on a rune dragons task with a zammy hasta and holy crap. went from 2-3 kill trips to 8-9 kill trips no prob. The thing is a beast and it blows my mind how cheap it is. I can't even imagine this thing pre-nerf
I was lucky enough to get a fang on 10kc and it was so wild. I would run fang only barrows and kill them so fast I could leave before the prayer drain almost every time without max melee stats
Pre nerf the thing was even more incredible. What made Jagex nerf it was the outrage it created by being the best weapon at many bosses including Nightmare, Nex, and etc. At the time it was 180m and rising until they nerfed the defense re-roll which Jagex called a “mistake”.
Very useful video.
For the level of calculations you completed I feel you could make more videos of these calcs alone. E.g weapon dps: providing information on the top 5 weapons for all cox demi/main bosses etc and different areas.
Good video mate
Thanks mate
lil ratbags underated💪
i hate that scythe doesnt get the love that it does, its the best dps weapon on low defence 3x3 monsters, shame people think its garbage
It may be about to get a buff too by the sounds of it.
Time to remake this video post DT2 and fang nerf scythe buff
Sadly, I lost my shadow this week to some lures… have to go back and try to get another.
Sorry to hear that mate, gl with the rebuild
Low iq issue
1/1a) Fang / Blowpipe
2) Shadow
3) Scythe
4) Harmonized Staff
5) T Bow
Love the edits top quality and a laugh 😂
make an updated one after the combat weapon balance
Would be interestinh to see a version of this for people looking into gear progression and rebuilds. This comparison assumes max, or near max, gear. If a person watches this looking at what to possibly rebuild with, they may end up buying a scythe or shadow over a tbow without realizing how other gear factors in. Would be an interesting video to see dps comparisons for the top 5 in different gear tiers. Would also be nice to see certain utility aspects mentioned. Yes, raw dps on harm is high, but you lose the ability to use other spellsbooks. Especially arceuus for thralls/death charge, or ancients for free heals. And specs are so strong that lightbearer is bis over even new dt2 rings at many places, so some weapons have their value increased because of how good their specs are. A lot of factors in this game, and considering everything would be difficult, but could be interesting to see a more in-depth video with new criteria.
Fang honestly the best mellee dps out there.
Blowpipe still imho best range.
Mage im no expert but i like ibans
Ibans>Shadow
5 billy for 1 black chinchomper.
Cool vid! I have a t bow, t shadow and fang of course! Gotta have a big bank though! Flipping is they way to go or else ... Sweat haha! Thanks for sharing! Cool info!
@@Wibbly_Wobbly that is an other subject but yes!
T bow and shadow and probably bowfa are all better but for the price...fang is pretty damn op. Fangs def best for budget
*laughs in brine saber*
I feel like bolt effects were not considered on ZCB
The dps includes specs, but I agree that the ZCB spec can be used at many bosses before switching back to your main weapon and that would increase your dps.
I really don't think the shadow is the actual best weapon, since you have to wear a full suit of dog tier armor to use it.
Bow has Some defense and Scythes only downside is having to stand in melee
By far, the best weapons per GP are the Fang, BP, bowfa, and Swamp trident.
Nice. Time to go get a fang.
DHL 100% needs a buff
What is the best melee, ranged, and magic weapon for general slayer? Non-degradeable.
For melee you got rapier and dhlance (stab), blade of saledor(slash), bludgeon, inquisiters mace(crush), d haly for stacking aoes and the fang for high deffence moster. For ranged you got blowpipe, cannon, or t bow. (Cross bow gives probably less slayer xp than melee in most cenarios). If you wanna use magic for slayer you wanna use ancients of course with a kodai wand or a nightmare staff. T shadow has a very high dps for 1 to 1 so it is also very good for some tasks(ex:gargoyles if you dont skip em).
@@sk8pkl Read my comment again.
@@andrewhenderson6544 well these are the best option for general slayer in my opinion. Nothing degradeble.... How do you want to to train range without any charges or amo? You want to know what are the best cheap items? Whip, d c bow with broad bolts and ancient staff...
There is no such thing as a non-degradeable magic or range weapon except for corrupted bowfa, but the bowfa isn’t very good without crystal armor (which degrades). They all use some form of “charges”. So melee would have the only actual non-degradable general slayer weapon(s).
Kinda hard to put just a singular weapon for each type, Fang is a good overall choice for melee, Dragon hunter crossbow has marginally more stats than a dragon crossbow, isn't niche like the twisted bow, and is obviously even better against dragons than the Armadyl/Zaryte crossbow. Harmonised staff for mage.
have you consider the zcb is the best pvm spec weapon in the game, or you just countintg a main weapon?
It was just the main dps mate for this vid, but obv the ZCB spec is very useful. I think it was Behe that showed someone maxing range in record time with the ZCB using spec transfer against zebak.
@@LilratbagsOsrs if you are doing one of these vid for spec weapons may i also mention the accursed scepter, it is a range DWH 10% more accurate and also lowers magic lvls, meaning it boosts the shadow even further
ZCB is also bis for range at nex :)
The chins are always the winners 😭💪
Hey man, cool animations and effort on the vid. Sadly i think theres some lack of basic knowledge. Hopefully your more recent vids have fixed most if not all of these issues.
Im currently 2 minutes in, and every single sentence you've spoken has been incorrect.
Zcb is a dps spec weapon, not a pk weapon.
Sang staff is an upgrade to the powered staff lineup after toxic trident.
No it is not 2nd bis at vesp portal, never was, never will.
Rapier/blade/mace are all single max hit upgrades from the tent whip for each respective styles. No they arent that great, but they technically are bis against single tile npc's that you melee.
Fang is a great design. Unfortunately, the majority of the playerbase goes off of feeling rather than math. This has lead players to default use the fang when its most likely worse than a whip, and depending on the defence of the npc, even worse than a dragon scim.
Sick video!
Thank you mate
Nice editing :)
Thanks mate 👍
scythe is a 1b item. Waiting for the right content.
Prophet. It’s a bill now
1.2bill now lol
I really hate to keep doing this to you because I really don’t want to criticize your content or discount your hard work running these calcs. However, whatever calc you used is not correct. I ran all of the calcs using typical setups for zammy and sarachnis since the numbers seemed to be off and they were. More specifically your fang calcs we’re about 10-15% higher than the ones I got using the generally accepted bitter/koeke calculator spreadsheet. Now I don’t know the exact gear you might have put in but as a small example mace is better than fang at sarachnis by 5-5.5%. Again I really hate to keep doing this I just don’t want misinformation to spread. Keep up the good work though. ❤
That's absolutely fine mate, the fang I tested against the rapier because I also found the dps calculators to be wrong lol. I actually tested the fang against the rapier so I knew the exact difference at various bosses and the used that to work out other bosses. The reality is the dps calculators are amazing but a 5% discrepancy doesn't surprise me, since their formulas are not 100% perfect but outside of spending 2-3 hours using every weapon at every boss, it's as accurate as we currently have. I used BIS gear and compared the 2 best calculators to each other, amended a few bosses defences that had no stats for some reason and manually ran checks for certain weapons like the tum shadow and fang. If you watch my rapier vs fang video you will see exactly how much the fang is better at certain bosses, but in the dps calculators some of them have the rapier ahead. I think that is just because the mechanics of those two weapons (fang and shadow) are unique, so the calculators aren't perfect which is why I had to amend those.
@@LilratbagsOsrs yeah like I mentioned the bitter/koeke calculator spreadsheet is the most widely accepted for meta dps calcs. You should be able to find it and make a copy. But like I said I don’t want to discredit the work you put in and I know you’ve been over this stuff quite a bit. But I run calcs constantly for people to find the best methods with a given budget. It’s one of my favorite things to do actually. So I apologize but I tend to notice if things are slightly off. Don’t let me discourage you though you’re still doing good work and producing helpful content I’m just a nit picky high level pvmer lol.
Another interesting and helpful video. fang op
Tumeken was dissapointing for me outside toa. In toa its awesome outside i rather have tbow
Awful take on the zaryte crossbow, assume dps calcs don’t take account of the spec and bolt procs
It did, it just doesn't take in to account the fact the spec alone is op and can be used and then you can switch to another weapon.
Rapier is much better for slayer than the fang besides vs dragons
Costs 50% more though. I'll take fang over whip
Black chimchompers at kree error 🗿
I don't think black Chins are technically bis at Kree beacuse of set up time between setting up the melee and the mager after the melee dies.
Shadow with a sceptre spec is better actual dps. I think kq might be questionable as well.
Shadow is also bis at Zulrah green and red phase, Muspah melee phase.
With the chins I kinda agree but you can also use another weapon after the melee minion dies. But this is the issue with dps calculators, they are a very good guide but can never factor in all these small details like you say and game knowledge is also important.
There was a similar result with alchemical hydra and the dps calculators rating melee better than range, but realistically you move to much for melee apart from the final part. However I couldn't alter the numbers so just had to put a note on it.
Zulrah I just did the dps against what colour a weapon was best against.
The three weapons I ran the most checks on were the arclight, fang and shadow because I'm not completely confident in the results either, due to their unique mechanisms so I appreciate the feedback.
@@LilratbagsOsrs Yeah that's true. Kree'arra is a tough one. Chins + tbow is really good. But also shadow with sceptre spec is probably close behind if not better than straight tbow. It also leaves room for more supplies which lead to longer trips. So dps across the time span of multiple trips, shadow with sceptre probably overtakes. But that's kind of picking at the weeds. Haba
DPS wise Black Chins are bis even if you don’t have a TBow. The issue though is dying because if you bring in 1k chins that’s 3m down the drain.
I WANT THEM ALL
🤣
Great info man
Make a new one boss
you need to do this again with soulreaper axe :P
Sounds good, I might wait a few weeks though so I don't lose 200m owning one for a day!
troll list
❤ for the algo
Thank you mate
twisted bow ofc
wat
The layout for this video really sucks. I can't follow anything and most of the time I have no idea what your talking about.
Probably just a "me" thing