The BEST Scouting Strategy in MLB the Show 24!! Tips and Tricks to NAIL your Picks!
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- MLB the Shows new scouting system has been confusing many people, particularly those new to the game. This video will help you learn how to get good scouting information EVERY year and get better and deeper draft classes.
I will show you how to get the best scouts, what to do on a week by week basis, and how to easily identify generational prospects without even scouting them!!
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UPDATE: The game came out with an update so vision being 5 higher than discipline is NO LONGER something that applies to all generational prospects.
Awesome! I skipped MLB the Show 23 and just came to 24. I scouted my first franchise year myself and did basically what you did for pitchers only I came away with an A (93) pitcher, a B pitcher and two Cs and two Ds. My second franchise year I followed your scheme and had 6 draft picks starting at #27. I walked away with 5 As and 1 B (89). One of the As (3rd round) was a 99. Full disclosure, 4 of my picks were SPs and all were 50s OVR except for my 99, who was 61 OVR. 4 of my picks came from discovered prospects, including the 99 OVR. Thank you!
Some great picks! Even guys in the 50s have value, depending on how long you go in the franchise. They also can be used in trades.
I just came too.
This is THE BEST scouting system I have seen for MLB 23 & 24. Learn what Fiend teaches and you will have more good, young players than you know what to do with. One thing I do is every week when I scout a position player, I change position interest to match his position so I can get extra interest. Starting Pitchers pretty much stay checked on that list every week. The other two choices are fluid based on what I'm scouting for that one week.
That's a good way to go. I'll change it once I find someone that is really good so I can get passive interest on them, especially if they started really low. Changing weekly could be really effective as well.
@@fiendfranchiseI watch some of the bigger YT MLB guys and when they are picks scouts I just yell at the screen...."you're doing it wrong!" LOL
@@VonRye So many people miss out on discovery and it's sad. But a lot of them still get good classes to if it works it works.
Bruh I didn’t even know position interest was a thing until I read this comment, this whole time I’ve been drafting without any bonus to position interest and I just noticed that tab has been staring me in the face this whole time and I just never checked what it was 😂
Thanks for going through all of the testing for this game, I did not have the patience to spend a day scouting and simulating. This is so helpful
Happy to help! Hope this gets you some insane draft classes
We boutta find out@@fiendfranchise
Thank you for your detailed explanations and content. Been watching you for a few days to really learn franchise after being exclusively DD player. Enjoying your draft-only rockies as well. You really teach how to build a team.
Thanks!! Happy to help
I always turn scouting off because it seems too daunting but this really cleared things up and will be manually scouting from here on out ! Thanks 🙏
Happy to help! Once you figure it out I think this scouting system is pretty fun
Best and most detailed video about the scouting process I have seen. Im itching to go home and try it!
Happy to help, hope you get some awesome classes!
By far the best video I've seen describe scouting and how to do it. I appreciate you Mills from twitch sent me to your channel for this video
Happy to help!
One of the best scout videos I’ve seen 🔥 . Just subscribed to ur channel as well as liked the video 👍. Great content
Thanks!! Hope you get some great classes!
Just used this strategy. I really liked it. First three picks were, 93, 89, 87. 80, 82 and 78 in middle rounds and a 71 and 72. There was not a lot of generational near the top. But it was a pitcher heavy draft. Looking forward to next scouting time! Nice job dude!
Nice class! Thanks
Awesome vid appreciate all of the tips 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Happy to help!
This was incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm getting back into The Show for the first time in years. I'm very excited to rebuild some bad teams.
Happy to help! This should hopefully help you get some sick classes!
This was super helpful man, appreciate it
Happy to help!
Sheesh you really smoked this video! Great insight and it payed off with a great haul
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this video! In my Guardians franchise I drafted a generational Catcher my first season. He's an 81 OVR with 99 potential and nearly 70s in every stat.
Nice! Catcher is one of my favorite positions to get generational players at because they get good power and defense.
@@fiendfranchise yeah only bad thing is now I have a decision to make cuz the Guardians have Bo Naylor a 24 year old B potential catcher and Josh Naylor and Kyle Manzardo (A potential 23 year old) at first base so idk what to do with one of them.
Great video man thank you
Appreciate it, hope you get some great classes!
Great video bro! My strategy is simple. I don’t scout any player that doesn’t have a 99 on their potential. I go to every position and scout the lowest ranked 65-99 potential prospects. With this method I constantly get tremendous value at every round in the draft.
Nice way to find position players down the board!
Hey! Keep coming back to this vid as it’s super useful. Got a discovery scout question - does their POS or Pitching rating impact on the quality of their discovered prospects? Have a few discovery scouts to choose from that have 90+ discovery and would be interesting to know. Also, is there a difference between a 90-94 discovery and 95-99 rating and the player ratings of their discovered prospects?
Read through all the comments and didn’t see this come up.
Thanks and you have a great channel!
I don’t know 100% for sure, but to my knowledge the only rating that impacts discovery is the discovery rating itself. If it’s only a little bit extra money, I would go for 95+. You get a max of 4 players either way, but in other cases you get a boost every 5 points in rating so I’d imagine it’s the same with discovery.
Implemented this. I make some of my own tweaks, typically only like to draft 18 year olds if possible but I’ve loaded my White Sox build farm system. 6 A rated pitchers, 3 A bats and a ton of high B.
Nice!!
Cheat sheet at the end was so clutch I was gonna go back and take notes lol
Was hoping that would save some people some time
Great video man! Really simple to understand, just gonna have to really grind and get used to scouting in this game because I skipped franchise entirely last year. One thing I’ve seen and heard, even in this video is scouting people who are gonna fall before your pick. What‘s the range that you would suggest for that premise? (Say for example I have pick 20, how far ahead or behind should I scout for players?)
I would avoid the top 10 if you have a pick in the 20s, top 15 if its late 20s. There's no limit for how far back after the pick, really.
This will definitely help, been getting a lot high C's and D's potential when I draft
This method should definitely help get rid of those, hope you get some sweet classes!
Mate I had no clue before watching this and afterwards I ended up getting 2 generationals in the same draft - one discovered and one sneaky one that slipped under the other teams radars. The lowest draft pick for me was a high 70s potential 👏 🎉
Nice! Glad the strategy is helping.
Loved the video and will try out your system in my A’s franchise! Do you have a notes taking system you use during the scouting?
Not a very organized one but I’ll just make sure I write down my favorites as I find them so I don’t forget anyone come draft time.
For SP, its well worth using 'Scout Position'. Just go through and check which region has the most (usually International, with a close second being either East or Central) and put your main pitching scout on that region for 6-7 weeks. While it does take a lot of time, if you have 2 good pitching scouts 90+ efficiency, you can cover the 2 regions with the most SP, and you end up with a lot of really good players that were previously not ranked coming in fairly high on your board giving you good later round picks. Sometimes even seeing some unranked guys jumping into the top 20 on your board. I got lucky in one draft were I did a couple weeks of discovery in international SP and found a near-generational pitcher unranked who was #1 on my board and I got him at R1-Pick 21 because no other teams knew about him. I probably could have waited to see how long he stayed available, but it was a no brainer pick. 84 OVR/94 POT/87% SIGNING at 18 years old. My rotation is so good by that point, that I even able to leave him in AAA for a season.
I will have to try using Discovery more though. This is another strategy I will try to mix in with my own.
That’s literally what I did and suggested with pitchers in the video… except I just use one scout to do the two regions. Using two pitcher scouts doesn’t leave enough time for position players in my opinion.
@@fiendfranchise Yeah, I commented half way through and realized we landed on the same strategy. I left it since it was agreeing with the video. I started using more discovery and have been finding better high C/B potential players with higher starting overalls which is good for rebuilding quickly. I have only seen 1 high A level talent come from it though which oddly enough was before I watched this. Scouting position players is tough since you only get maybe 5-8 per position per region and it takes at least 5-6 weeks to get a decent idea of talent and you might have wasted 6 weeks. Unless you need 1 specific position you can really pump time into every draft, its easier to just draft a ton of SP every year since you can scout 25 per region, and trade them for those higher end position guys later. It's a bit of an exploit, so I'm going to start trying to make the drafts more realistic and not accept every stupid trade the CPU throws at me. They either offer their best prospect at 22 years old, 95 potential who is having a rookie of year caliber season or they want your best player for C potential players in the mid 50s. The trade logic is all over the place. It's improved from last year, but if they have a good starter in their late 20s in LF, and a top rookie behind him, they won't move the rookie to CF or RF to replace their mid 70s journeyman, they just put the lower overall rookie with 98 potential on the trade block. I traded for Spencer Steer from the Reds to boost my outfield, and a few days later the guy behind him (a generational talent mind you) was off the trade block.
I says to always scout the generational bc of the increase to their interest level. Good tips. I have a similar strategy but yours if more fine tuned than mine. It'll be an easy adjustment for me to make.
Yeah for that reason I usually put at least one week into the generational players and also put them as one of the positions of need so that the interest won't be a problem. But I rarely will take the time to fully scout a generational. Just takes too much of the limited scouting time.
absolutley great video! i’ve been playing franchise for years and have an excel workbook that tracks all the stats for my majors and minors. this video will help me take my scouting to the next level.
only question i had is can you elaborate how you knew salazar would be a 79 overall?
Nice detail! For Salazar, when he was fully scouted he had a max overall of 80 and a max vision of 61. Since we know that all generational hitters have 60 vision (1 below his max) we also know that his overall would come in 1 below his max.
thank you! can you also elaborate on your scouting strategy with respect to getting coverage over the whole draft? i tend to to spend 3-4 weeks looking for my first round pick and then scout guys i like around the mlb rank of my next pick and so on.
@@BrandonMeisner that one is less of a set thing for me. I generally scout until I have about 5 guys that I could take with my first round pick. Unless I’m picking top 4 then you need less. Then I move on to other picks in top 75. I find very little success past that range for position players without discovery. For pitchers you’ll naturally find players all around the board by scouting regions.
I know scouting/drafting is more difficult this year, and after watching others struggle with it a bit, im gonna go ahead and say this is a great strat. I'm actually happy they made discovery useful this year.
I used discovery last year and it was helpful, but they made it stronger this year for sure.
maybe the best scouting guide you could ask for, great stuff
appreciate it!
Great vid man. Is there ever any point to scouting relievers or closers in bulk? Reliever is the hardest position to build through the draft, but most prospects are also cheeks and it’s hard to pick them out at a glance. Closers at least tend to have better potentials, but you also don’t get depth from them, they’re all gone by Round 3. Any tips?
Sometimes scouting relievers in a region can be worth it, with the 4 weeks left after scouting two regions of starters. But usually I will just take flyers on them in the last couple of rounds to see if one of the guys I discovered ends up being any good. Depending on where you're at in your rebuild, taking one of the awesome closers early if you have any competitive balance picks is worth it in my opinion.
Awesome video
Appreciate it!
Great video! I was just wondering if you could help with figuring out the players potential for example garret bronk max overall was 70 so would you do 70-46=24 and then would you takeaway that from his max overall just wanna make sure I fully understand.
Sorry but you’re gonna have to give me a timestamp it’s been a few weeks and I can’t remember the names anymore haha
@@fiendfranchise13:02
@@ommo480 so you don’t use 46-70 you use the gap between his max overall (70) and max potential (99) to see a gap of 29 which has a good shot at A potential. If he ends up 61 overall or higher he will be A potential with his gap.
I adapted this strategy to my own draft-only franchise and it's completely changed the way I play now!
One question though, I noticed you do a significant amount of scouting players near your first 2-3 selections, toward the end of the draft how often do you end up taking players you haven't scouted?
Those later rounds are heavily reliant on discovery. When you don't have good discovery options, that's when you will take more players you haven't scouted. But I have had drafts where I scouted everyone I took and some where I only took a flier on a reliever in the 6th round I didn't scout.
I never used discovery but will now, loved the video. I did have one concern it seems like this way wouldn’t get many RP. Do you just not really draft them or was it just an iffy class for those. How do you balance SP and RP/CP?
I usually draft RPs in rounds 5 and 6 early in my rebuild depending on how the draft goes. You won't scout them but in the very late rounds its low risk and a lot of the RPs that you discovered will still be available.
Once your franchise is in a better spot, you can use the last 4 weeks with your pitching scout on closers if you want a closer in the top 50 of a class.
Used your method and my first year got all high B and A players. Using the A’s, 7 picks in my first draft. Got 4 87-89 players and 3 93-98 players for actual potential. Great system, thank you.
Great draft!
Always extremely helpful. Thanks man
Happy to help! Hope you get some sweet classes
Thanks. Do you ever discover generational players or are they always in the original list? With starting pitchers because I play every game in manage mode I avoid starting pitchers with stamina less than 80 because it rarely increases and nearly always decreases. You end up with a 4 o 5 inning pitcher by the time he makes it to MLB
Fantastic video I learned a lot.
I've never heard of a generational player being discovered. You can get 99 potential, but not the archetype the game considers "generational".
@@fiendfranchise Thank you.
I think I figured out how to accurately determine potential, overall and attributes for fully scouted players. First add the unscouted low and high potential numbers. Then divide by 2. Let's call that the unscouted dividend. Then add the fully scouted low and high potential number. The + or - difference between the unscouted sum and the fully scouted sum is how much you add to or subtract from the unscouted dividend. In my tests that was the accurate potential, overall and attribute rating.
Very Interesting. I’ll have to try this out myself.
@@fiendfranchise I took your advice and used scouts with 90 evaluation and 90 pos player/pitcher. I'd be interested to see whether you get the same results. The key is to not save over the opening day save file when every player is unscouted so you can go back and compare. I only tested it on fully scouted players. I'm not sure whether 50% scouted players follow a linear path to 100%.
@@azbdizzy4176 1. You’re right. In my testing a lot of them were off by one but I still consider that a success. Knowing someone’s overall within one is still just as valuable.
2. I’m immediately forgetting I ever knew this information. It’s just too much math to do consistently and I like the element of surprise and uncertainty in my draft classes. But great information for anyone who wants it.
@@fiendfranchise Thanks. I like to crunch numbers and figure things out. I suspect the cpu teams know exactly who they are drafting after they scout them so I don't feel I'm gaining an unfair advantage.
Bro can you do a video on the training portion of franchise? Or is it just not worth it to change it off of auto?
I do manually train, but i just set it to their biggest weakness at the beginning of each season.
I do the save route and save before the draft. See who gets drafted/the top names, then reset my save and draft the ones I noted 😂
That certainly is one way to make sure you get good classes haha. Hard to miss with that strategy
@@fiendfranchise it's funny bc I've been doing that since MLB the Show 12 lolol. I was a smarter/better gamer when I was a kiddo
Man I'm a beast at this, I don't even play the first 5 season I destroy and rebuid. Using the Red Sox what a challenge, the team is old I cut everyone I had overall 55 playing that's how bad I broke down that team. Yr 8 and we looking like not a playoff team but we making some noise
Nice!
I used your method from 23 in 24 I got a pitcher 18 yr 76 overall put him straight in the league. His rookie yr right hht now is crazy cause I sim games he 6-0 pitching with a 2.39 era
Niiice
@@fiendfranchise using the whitesox which i think is a great rebuild team the
@@hiramabiff7778 yeah I used them last year they're a great choice.
@@fiendfranchise do you have any content on how to build your farm league up
@@hiramabiff7778 Not really. I don't have a specific method or formula there, I just play it by ear and call people up when I feel like they're good enough to succeed at whatever level I'm calling them up to.
Does strategy change if you have a small bonus pool or draft lower? I'm running the Dodgers.
Not really. A small signing pool makes it hard to draft generational players but as the dodgers you likely won’t be drafting in a spot to get one anyway. It makes discovery even more important if you ask me, I’d dedicate 8 weeks or more to discovering position players.
@@fiendfranchise thanks so much. Appreciate the content!
I was wondering if you figured out how to recognize a “Generational” Starting Pitcher? Thanks!
Not as easily as position players were, but no. 1 on mlb board with high K/9 and stamina are what I see almost every time. Also when the gaps change when you start scouting them is a dead giveaway just like the position players.
@@fiendfranchise Thank you - great video, btw!
Hi there… just picked up the game.. was just wondering is it realistic to put my draft class straight into AA? Instead of A?
Yes I’d do this for everyone that is 60 overall or higher. And in some cases even some high 50s.
I believe I have been able to translate it and send my comments.
Nice to meet you.
I am Japanese like Shohei Otani.
Your video commentary on scouting for this franchise is excellent.
I have a couple of questions.
Question one. This video uses MLB The Show24 for the explanation, but is it possible to use MLB The Show23?
Question two.
When scouting by region of origin, before changing to another region or posion,
What percentage of scouting progress should be made before changing to another region or position?
Question three.
Which baseball team are you a fan of?
And who are your favorite players?
This is about the only question I can think of right now,
It is conceivable that we will be asking them again.
MLB The Show is fun, but there are very few Japanese who play it.
Very sadly, there may be only about as many Japanese playing The Show franchise as there are MLB bullpen pitchers.
This is because it is very difficult to find Japanese players who know the game system of The Show franchise, and it is very difficult to solve any questions that you may have.
Thank you for reading this far.
I am waiting for your answer.
Hello!
Yes, this system works great in MLB the Show 23, that is the game that I first used this scouting strategy for, and had excellent results.
If you scout a region 5 weeks, everyone will be at least 80%, which I think is a good point to have a good idea of how good everyone is in that region. I would say the same percentage is good for individual scouting. Though if you want to know injury risk, 100% is required.
I am a Padres fan, mostly because Fernando Tatis Jr is my favorite player. I also like the way the Braves have built their organization, and love Ronald Acuna. And of course, Shohei Ohtani is always fun to watch.
@@fiendfranchise
Thanks for reading!
And thanks for answering my questions!
I was worried you wouldn't read it because I sent you a pretty long text. 🤣
So you are a Padres fan!
As for Japanese players, Yu Darvish and Yuki Matsui are more familiar to you as a Padres fan than Shohei Otani.
Tatis Jr. is the type of baseball player we don't have many of in Japan, and his flashy style of play makes him fun to watch for me, too.
I especially enjoyed Tatis Jr.'s home steal!
I don't know much about the Braves' team-building methods. I would like to know more about how the Braves build their teams.
Ronald Acuña surprised me by becoming the first player in MLB history to hit 41 home runs and steal 73 bases in a season.
I thought Ronald Acuña was the cover player for MLB The Show 24 because of this record last year.
I was off by a landslide though 🤣.
@@random3105 Yes very familiar with both those Japanese players, they have been fun to watch. I have only been watching baseball for a couple of years. I also think Acuna would have been an easy selection for the cover of the game this year after his incredible run last year.
How do you load a saved Franchise? Every time i try load a save franchise it takes me back to the beginning of the season and none of my saved stats are showing up?
It defaults to the most recently saved franchise file. To load a specific one it is X on Xbox / square on PS5 from the main screen when hovering over the franchise icon. The game only auto saves at the end of a played game so you have to manually save progress otherwise.
This might be a silly question but since I'm new to the game:
Am I able to scout 3 players for example and after I get a sense of their stats then assign my scouts to 3 new players?
If I do that I assume I will have a detailed report of all players I've scouted even if I switch to new players to scout?
Yes you can do that. I would recommend doing pitchers by region rather than individually so you can get a lot more scouted, but you can do 3 individual players each week as well. You can see people you've already scouted as well by going to the "scouted" tab in the scouting.
Question on all ya scouts do you have a high efficiency as well or does that even matter
Not on the discovery scouts but on the other two you want it
I dont understand why they've made it basically impossible to fire a scout the last two years. In other words it makes no sense that we have no way to increase our scouting budget to make signings make sense.
Having increased scouting budget could get you some crazy good scouting setups. Personally I actually like the set budget because it adds a bit of strategy to have to fit all you want to do within a certain amount, and sometimes the available scouts aren’t great.
@@fiendfranchise I've gone multiple off seasons where 1) I was never notified of a scout needing replacing 2) unable to sign a new scout and just took what they gave me
@@StateoftheFranchiseGaming go to the shaking hands, go to contracts and you can pick whatever scouts you want within your budget. You can hire and fire an unlimited account
@@user-ci1ju7mx4y that actually not true if your running budget for scouts + the salary of the scout you are firing don't equal the salary of the scout you want to hire mean you won't be able to hire that scout.
@@StateoftheFranchiseGaming you can't get any scout you want but it's not basically impossible to fire a scout
I needed this so much lol. Thank you
Happy to help!
Question! Is there a difference between 99 discovery and 90 discovery on scouts?
For efficiency I know every 5 ratings makes a difference, I would imagine that is similar with discovery, though i don't know of a way to actually test it.
How dou find the draft results? I seemed to have missed it in my first year.
Between august 2 and 31 you can see them. It’s one of the things you can select from the main screen on the franchise menu during those dates
Do you know at what point in the franchise the class is generated?
Yeah it is when spring training starts.
How’d you get to draft recap screen?
From August 2-31 it is on the main screen. "View Draft Picks" is the name.
what stats should I be looking at if I wanted to change a pitcher position between starter/rp/closer
To change someone to starter you are looking for stamina at least 70, for closer I like someone with good velocity (high 90s Fast ball) and K/9 (70+). Reliever can really be anything.
@@fiendfranchise thanks
Does the vision have to be exactly 5+ better or 5 and above more better
It used to be that but they updated it since I made the video and this no longer applies
This shit is legit. Pulled a 99, 94, 93 and all high 80s in the same draft
Great draft!! Happy to help
I pulled a 98 potential 20 year old who was ranked 72 in MLB. I almost didn't trust it but my team ranked him #1 overall and I took him with the third pick. Close enough to be a generational I think lol
@@twork yeah that’s great. I always trust guys my scouts say are top 5 they’re almost always great.
Point no. 4, I understand not to scout guys with OVR higher than their potential, but how does it affect anything else?
Getting guys with potential only 5-10 better than overall is still rarely going to get you good players, they’d have to start in the 70s overall just to have B potential. So unless you’re looking for short term options I’d recommend gaps of 15+.
13:57 how will you know how much less he's gonna be? It doesn't show he's a 65. How'd you come up with that?
I don’t know he’s 65, I was just using an example of *if* he ended up at 65 overall, what the rest of his ratings would be
How far down the draft rank can generational prospects be the first week? I know you said at the top but didn't know if that meant the top prospect or top 5ish
From what I've seen, they always have ranked #1 MLB. The only time that hasn't been the case is when there are multiple in the same class, then they can be 1 and 2.
Could be that they generate elsewhere, they just always are first for me.
@@fiendfranchise Thanks! great vid and info
Anybody else notice a SERIOUS lack of depth and talent for position players? After about 8 years of simulation I have an entire franchise filled from top to bottom with prime Verlanders at 88+ potential, from starters to closers, to MLB to Single A. I just can't draft position players past say the 3rd round. I understand it would be easier to get pitchers since there will be more pitchers than specific position players, but majority of the time there won't even be position players available to draft AT ALL past the 5th round for certain positions. That's obviously not realistic, and the only high potential guys left late for position players are like 48-52 overall, which these guys will never do anything, the overall is just too low.
Just wondering if I'm doing something wrong or others have noticed this too. Seems WAYYYY more difficult to find good or even solid position players past the 2nd round, but extremely easy to get pitchers.
I've noticed the same thing. That's why I would always take a position player if available in the top 50 picks unless there was a pitcher just clearly better than any position players available. After then it’s really discovery that is, for the most part, the only way to get good position players.
@fiendfranchise so if your set on pitchers do you think it's worth it to double down on position player scouts and then just rotate discovery infield/outfield throughout the regions? Also if no one is discovered in a given week is that a sign to move on to another region? Solid content man, rooting for your Rockies
@@michaelsoleau649 I’d at least scout one region of pitcher just to have some available to pick that you could trade but you could do that for like 8 of the 14 weeks
Roger that thanks
I wasn't able to draft for shit last year. I'm hoping this year once I own the game, I'll do better
This should definitely help. Hope you get some sick classes!
@@fiendfranchise I always had to build via trades and free agency bc my drafting and scouting was bad
How do I know who was discovered? If I’m going P INT scouting & P INT Discovery. Confused on how to tell/know which ones are the discovered.
The first thing is that they will be NR on the MLB rank. There are others that aren't discovery that will have that, so look for players that have lower % scouted than they should, because they were discovered in the middle of your scouting so they didn't get the 15% each week.
@@fiendfranchisethanks!
I'm somewhat confused about what you said regarding overall numbers. You seemed to indicate if his actual overall is two points less than max projected overall then all of his attributes will be two points less than present max. How do you determine what his current overall is? Even when fully scouted his card still lists overall as a range.
You don’t know overall until after the draft. I used the 65 overall example to demonstrate what the player card would be given that overall. Just to explain that a guy doesn’t come in on the low end of the overall range and the high end of the potential range. If they have a 15 point range (like a fully scouted 18 year old will) and their overall ends up being 10 points less than the maximum, then every rating in their scouting card will also be 10 points less than the maximum.
Because of this you can avoid scouting players that have a small gap in the ranges between overall and potential, because 99% of players will never start above 75 overall.
@@fiendfranchise I'll give an example. Fully scouted player has an overall of 85-95. As a general rule will he end up with 89-90-91 overall? Somewhere in the mid point? Or is it anywhere from 85 to 95?
That would be extremely valuable to know since you figured out how it directly relates to their attributes.
@@azbdizzy4176 No they can end up on any point in that scale, but to further your example, say the player is a pitcher and has:
Overall: 85-95
Potential: 88-98
Stamina: 81-91
K/9: 72-82
BB/9: 55-65
etc, etc.
That means his potential will be 3 higher than his overall, his stamina will be 4 lower than his overall, his K/9 will be 13 lower than his overall, BB/9 will be 30 lower than his overall, etc.
So if you draft him and he is 85 overall (the minimum rating on his scale) he will have 88 potential, 81 stamina, 72 K/9, and 55 BB/9, all also the minimum ratings on their scales. You can use this to see whether or not you'll like the player.
Generally speaking, you want a player that has a potential more than 3 higher than his overall. In the case of this example, you'd probably still draft him because he's a minimum of 85 overall (assuming you scouted him with a good scout you trust he's actually that good). But that archetype is very rare in the game. 99% of players don't start higher than 75 overall.
@@fiendfranchise Great information. Thank you for the reply and for the work you did to acquire this data. I've been a hard core franchise/manage mode player of this game for years. Do you have any tips on signing players after the draft?
@@azbdizzy4176 Not anything special for signing. Just setting your position needs in the draft to get the interest up passively while scouting. During signing I will bump up the bonus a couple notches to try and get early signings from people who already are over 50% interest to start. Then if you have one player with really low interest with everyone else above 50% I will put that low interest player in the top spot and leave the other spots open as that will give you more interest per period.
When discussing the gap is that for the overall or potential. I got kinda of confused for a minute
its the gap between their max overall and their max potential
Also *Have you guys ever paid much if any attention to how many years experience the scouts you hire have. Some scouts have zero, some have 1-2 years, and then others have like a decade or 15-20 years experience. I wonder if they have better accuracy in their scouting reports that they specialize in but idk...cause I have a small sample size. what do you think thx🤔 thoughts? @3:15 you swapped a 2 yrs scout for a 12 years of experience, a good value imo
Reminds me, of the scene in the movie Money ball. When brad pitts character fires the old scout for Google boy lmao
One of these years I'm gonna try it. And only hire the scouts with the most years of experience. Watch they dig up a bunch of gems with their knowledge 😂👍✌️
"he has a ugly girlfriend" and "we need guys that can play"
I don’t usually pay as much attention to experience. I think it’s more the ratings that drive how good they are but experience could play a factor. It could be something fun to test
maybe they get a more accurate board or better discovery or more MLB ready but idk, it's semantics, because I do agree 💯 your going off of the ratings but could be something to experiment with 👍🤔
Does efficiency effect disocvery or no?
Not that I’m aware of.
Finally got a 75 overall catcher 18 and 90 something potential
Nice! Catcher is a tough position to draft usually
@@fiendfranchise but it was in March to October so I doubt he will ever come up
@@fiendfranchise I’ve actually been very sucessful at that position when drafting
@2:10 Ok but given this choice, should I pick the 98 efficiency/ 89* pitching... This is elite efficiency, probably overkill at 98 efficiency.. but there is another with 97 for the pitchers skill but like way less 89-90 efficiency, thoughts 🤔✌️thx man I needed a ruling on this its confusing could screw my next draft
For pitchers, I would rather have 97 pitchers and 90 efficiency. Just because you’re going to get 15% a week with either efficiency when you’re scouting an entire region.
For position players I would actually prefer the 98 efficiency and 89 pos players just because getting the 95+ efficiency actually adds 5% scouted per week so you can get an 18 year old fully scouted in 2 weeks rather than to 95%.
Yo hmmm I'll let you know. I might be stuck with the high efficiency scout with my save not sure
That 5 percent is nice, my scout is max out for efficiency this year and there is always next year too
I got two first round picks still as Arizona, 30th overall and 33rd so basically too first rounders
@@ericbonofacio4695 Nice these scouts should work out for you. This strategy should work well for finding good players with those late 1st rounders.
Can I find two way players without knowing their secondary position?
Not that I know of, the only way I know of identifying them is getting to 25% scouted and checking for secondary positions.
Do you think you could unpack a little more, what about that Laird guy made him so obvious to be terrrible. i mean, i wouldnt draft him or scout him solely because of the H/9. I guess the gaps are confusing me a bit. I've watched this back probably 4 times now and i still can't quite pinpoint why Laird is a guarantee C potential
Yeah I can try to explain more:
Non-generational players don't really ever start at higher than 75 overall (except a rare new build they added this year I didn't know about when I made the video). Due to that, you can assume the best-case-scenario for 98% of guys will be 75 overall to start.
With the gap tip I shared in the video, Laird had a overall scale of 60-94 and a potential scale of 65-99. His max overall was 94 and his max potential was 99. Max potential (99) - Max overall (94) = 5. So we know that whatever rating he ends up with, his potential will be five higher than his overall. Since 75 overall is his best-case-scenario, the best he could possibly be is 75 overall with 80 potential. Which is technically not guaranteed C because 80 is B potential but very close to guaranteed C or lower.
@@fiendfranchise that makes a lot more sense, thanks. great channel by the way. Been playing franchise for years so i can appreciate someone that can teach me something
Generational talent is not only limited to 18 year olds this year I don't believe unless my game is bugged lol. Had the cpu draft a 91 overall SP 22 years old..... I was hurt lol
Also might add that is by far the best player I've ever seen on a draft usually cap at like 82 soooo idk if it was a bug/fluke or if anyone can be generational now
a 91 off Rip?? that's insane... I have not heard of this player archetype being added. I will have to be on the lookout.
@fiendfranchise yes sir I actually just double checked it happened lastnight and I haven't advanced my franchise since he's 21 91 overall 95 potential smh missed an absolute legend 😂
@fiendfranchise I do suppose if you find an 18 year old they will probably be in the 80's with 99 potential same as last year but I guess it's worth looking out for any player that's really good now lol
@@fiendfranchise should be sent over now man
How do I scout for 2 way players? Haven’t found any yet
They are rare. Once you get pitchers up to 25% you look for secondary positions. If they have them then they are 2 way
what happens if you go over scouting budget? because it allows you to
Im not sure I've never had to do it.
It doesn’t let you sign scouts that exceed the budget listed
So what exactly can go wrong when drafting an injured player? Do they sit out a year of development?
No there’s a chance both their overall and their potential are reduced. Doesn’t happen every time but there’s a decent chance that both can be heavily reduced and you just get a much worse player than what the player card looks like
@@fiendfranchise ahh I see thanks for the response and informative video 👍🏻
Brother, you’re the GOAT for this. Used your method with discovery and absolutely demolished my latest draft.. was struggling a bit before seeing this. Appreciate you!
Happy to help!
Do pitchers that get drafted ever develop outlier? Seems like it’s only active players that get outlier
Not that I've seen unfortunately. Last game they made the whole quirk system worse and so generated players rarely get any, and you can't earn it either.
@@fiendfranchise I’m not even gonna buy the game. Sds has completely killed the immersion aspect of the game for me. They could care less about making it realistic for us franchise players.
@@Burnerburner588 Franchise certainly wasn't their focus for this game, but I'm enjoying it still. Quirks and better rosters would be easy improvements though.
What happens to unsigned draft picks?
They mostly go into the next class (sometimes they will skip a class) but sometimes they go into free agency.
downloading game at the moment, last show i played was '18. Just want to clarify, if they're overall is within 5-10 of their potential... STAY AWAY. That's what i got with that Laird dude.
Yes.
what exactly does durability do?
It impacts how likely someone gets injured and how quickly they get tired and need a rest day.
What does the % interest mean or do?
It makes the class a lot easier to sign after the draft. You can’t offer a contract to anyone below 50% (until the final day of the signing period) so you want to get people as close to 50% as you can if you’re interested. And if you can get over 50% that’s even better.
@@fiendfranchise thanks !
Generational talents can be 19 too, but never older
That's true, I forgot about them
How do you tell which guys are discovered?
Guys that are NR that you can find in your “recently scouted” tab every week for whatever position you are choosing to discover
Would they be NR in the MLB rank, the team rank, or both?
@@markzarobsky6019 they’ll always be NR mlb rank but they could be anything team rank.
how do i view my draft picks?
It's on the main franchise screen as one of the options from August 2 - August 31
I never really used discovery that often but I think I’ll use it for the next season of my franchise (I’m already 7 weeks into scouting so it’s probably a little late for me lol) always have trouble finding some good late round prospects and that seems to be a good method!
Discovery should help a bunch in the mid and late rounds. I'd honestly still do it even though you're halfway through. May not have time to discover position players, but there's almost always good pitching to be discovered.
I don’t know I feel like this kind of defeats, the purpose of a franchise or a rebuild it doesn’t make it really fun if you are drafting absolute a potentials A every season, I don’t know🤷🏼♂️
If you want to intentionally make scouting harder to make the draft worse to add challenge, that's certainly an option that can be good. Though I think watching videos on how to scout isn't gonna help you get worse at scouting haha.
I think most people enjoy having awesome draft classes, which is the point of the video, to show people how they can get them.
@@fiendfranchise yes, i just feel like in a realistic setting in real life, you’d get lucky if you draft three generational talents, and in a draft at the end of the day I just feel like by year five everyone’s gonna be like a 99 overall😂😂
@@landongoldsboro3399 if you wanted to nerf this style a little bit, just not using discovery will get you down to more 1-3 good players per draft rather than probably 2-5 you'll get using discovery.
@@landongoldsboro3399feel like maybe you’ve never played a franchise. Generational players always go top 5. And there isn’t a generational in every draft. It’s rare. So I don’t understand you saying everyone will be a 99. It’s all about getting the right guys. I’ve done many 10+ season rebuilds and I can assure you- your whole team will not be full of 99 players.
So, what if, say, you've just had a great draft and picked up 5 pitchers. Next year, you don't even really want to go after any.
Would you just get 2 90+ efficiency/90+ POS player scouts? And then discover POS players with the third? And, since they're positional players, scout them one by one with the other two?
Just want to make sure this is all making sense.
This video was CRAZY helpful, by the way. Thanks so much, dude!
That would be pretty risky. You could do that for part of the period but I’d at least put 5 weeks into scouting one region of pitchers. Just because discovering position players is no sure thing and finding good position players down the board who aren’t discovery is rare in my experience. I’d want at least some pitching options I could take late that could be trade pieces.
@@fiendfranchise Got it, fair enough. And yeah, finding good position players when you aren't a top 10 pick feels *real* bad lol. Here's hoping I can discover some studs, somehow.
So you don't need efficiency when discovering? What a good draft. I cant want to try this out.
Not if you’re going to only discover with him.
I feel like you completely slipped over discovery
What would you like further explanation for regarding discovery?
I would never hire Josh McDaniel
Haha at least it’s not in a head coaching capacity.
am too broke to get this game lol
Sorry to hear it. Luckily not much changed in franchise mode so MLB the Show 23 is still a pretty similar experience.
somehow am not surprised....@@fiendfranchise
@Slizezoko if you got Xbox it's free on game pass
ikr thing is ma black parents wont even let me get gamepass with ma own money @@2Tmac
I'm honestly surprise ppl keep buying this stagnant redundant yearly game. all it has become is yearly roster updates. This game has become a POS.
I like it
@@fiendfranchise
So you like :
1. the broadcast saying the same thing over and over again, not just in multi-games but in the same game itself.
2. You like the fact that the game doesn't use a dynamic weather system where you can start the day with clear skies but end the game with rain.
3. You like how, in regional broadcasts, they don't have broadcasters from the actual teams; they just use the same two broadcasters.
4. You like the fact that instead of pausing the game and going to quick manager to choose things like steal or hit and run (for offense) and having to pause the game to change your defensive alignment, they could use a signs gameplay format.
5. You like how you don't get to charge the mound after you get hit by the ball several times.
6. You like how you can't argue with the umpire and be thrown out of the game.
7. You like the generic umpires.
8. You like how when you trade someone, their photo on the Jumbotron becomes a generic create-a-player, whereas the last time you played against them, they had an actual photo.
9. You like how the fans look and move like they are from a PS3 game.
10. You like how there are no cutscenes from fans catching a foul ball or no-doubt home runs.
11. You like the generic intros into the game with no special themes for things like Mother's Day or July 4.
12. You like how they don't show close-ups on great catches or close-up plays and how it's always from a distance.
13. You like how crowds don't have any impact on the game.
14. You like how catchers can't have mound visits.
15. You like how they just go straight to a prompt telling you about the injury and not showing it, or that a pitcher can be hit by a 111 EV ball and still stay in the game, or that a batter can get hit in the head by a 100 mph fastball and just walk down to first like he was hit by a beach ball.
16. You like how there is no option to train with the coaches.
In other words, you like a cookie-cutter money grab.
I sent a in 35 page doc addresses these issues and a lot more and giving suggestions. eps. suggesting SDS to not put out another game for 10 years and just work on MLB the show 34 and overall the whole system.
@@rwwilson21 I like the game, I never claimed that every single aspect of it was great. A game doesn't need to be perfect or 100% realistic to be fun to play and create content on. I can name some things I'd like to be better, and you even listed some, but I still have fun with it. You not liking the game is your choice, and it doesn't really impact my feelings on it tbh.
@@fiendfranchise With a new game, you expect updates or new things. SDS DOESN'T FUCKING DO THAT!!! all they do is roster updates, put a new player on the cover and say it's a new game. MLB the show has become a con-game.
a new GTA hasn't come out in 12 years, GTA VI is the most anticipated game of all time. I have no doubt it'll make a billion dollars within 24 hrs of dropped.
If SDS puts a hold on MLB the show and just works on a future game like 34, It would blow the fuck up(in a good way). but they won't do that bc they want the money now.
Which is ironic because Rockstars and taken 2(Rockstars's Parent) will make more money in 24 hrs on just ONE game than SDS has made on every MLB the show game since GTA V combined.
@@rwwilson21 comparing a baseball game to gta is... something. If that's your bar for success I wouldn't hold your breath for really any sports games.
@bengal