Moneyball Rebuild in MLB the Show 23

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Комментарии • 77

  • @mattgray9297
    @mattgray9297 Год назад +143

    “David Justice at 7 million…”
    Billy Beane: No, man, I ain't paying you seven. Yankees are paying half your salary. That's what the New York Yankees think of you.

    • @User-b9q2z
      @User-b9q2z 9 месяцев назад +1

      They're paying you to play against them

  • @manbuckets
    @manbuckets Год назад +125

    How can you not be romantic about baseball

    • @burtsy.
      @burtsy. Год назад +36

      When you fucking strike out with the bases loaded

    • @schmads6683
      @schmads6683 Год назад +1

      Uh because it’s by far the most unbalanced organization in sports and competitiveness is solely about which owners want to spend money

    • @17rjp
      @17rjp Год назад

      @@burtsy. 🤣

    • @funvideos873
      @funvideos873 Год назад

      @@burtsy. 😂😂😂 I agree

    • @trevorharris4647
      @trevorharris4647 Год назад

      It’s a metaphor

  • @VonRye
    @VonRye Год назад +67

    Moneyball was successful because Oakland had 3 Cy Young caliber SPs in Zito, Hudson, & Mulder, plus MVP Miguel Tejada & Eric Chavez at SS & 3B. 2002 was the last year those pitchers were on their non-arbitration contracts...each making less than $1 million that year. Even Tejada & Chavez made less than $4 million each.

    • @TheAntOrtiz
      @TheAntOrtiz  Год назад +9

      Yeah, tough with the contracts now a days to emulate that. So I guess I could give myself more money. Or just focus more so on the analytical/stats aspect of Moneyball

    • @mitchellima7548
      @mitchellima7548 Год назад +11

      While this is true I wouldn’t say this is the only reason. Oakland did revolutionize what matters when looking at in a player and turned a team that many thought was going middling to bad and made it really good by using metrics people didn’t care about back then. Not denying the fact they had talent(especially aces) but I wouldn’t say that’s the reason they were successfull

    • @VonRye
      @VonRye Год назад +6

      @@mitchellima7548 Yeah, let's ignore the fact that they had 3 aces all 26 and under on the staff which makes winning so much easier. Even Ant said in the video he had to go get better pitching because it wasn't working out for him. Pitching of that quality on the cheap isn't found that often. One of the major complaints about the book and the movie is they almost completely ignored Hudson, Mulder, Zito, Chavez & Tejada. Analytics won't do a damn thing if you dont have talent to go with it.

    • @mitchellima7548
      @mitchellima7548 Год назад +5

      @@VonRye you didn’t read my comment. I said you can’t ignore the aces but it’s not the reason. It’s just ignorant to act as if the philosophy moneyball presented wasn’t a major contributor to their success. This is also back up by the fact the modern era of team building has so much to give to these philosophies. Teams are built with these ideas in mind. Next time try reading the comment your replying to.

    • @VonRye
      @VonRye Год назад

      @@mitchellima7548 I read it and disagreed with your premise. Their top 5 players that year were already on the team. The guys they added via analytics helped, but were easily not the reason for the team's success. Pitching, defense, and 3-run homers still win you more games.

  • @Daniel-zi9zo
    @Daniel-zi9zo Год назад +11

    I think maybe focusing on pitchers with funky delieveies would be a good idea. Like how they got Chad Bradford for the sole reason being his delivery. Kinda like how the Rays bullpen was a couple of years ago, just a lot of different arm slots, and a ton of differing velos.

  • @ScrawnySlugger
    @ScrawnySlugger Год назад +30

    “If we try to play like the Yankees in here, we’ll lose to the Yankees out there”

  • @ThreeGeezy
    @ThreeGeezy Год назад +19

    I guess this would be kinda similar, but a rebuild where you can’t spend more than say 6, 8, or 10 million on a single player would be interesting. It would be a good mix of finding the glitchy sim guys and a challenge.

    • @lordtwiwi6076
      @lordtwiwi6076 Год назад +2

      I’ve found that players like Nolan Gorman and Vaughn Chissom have good stats and produce

    • @charliestergos1857
      @charliestergos1857 Год назад

      @@lordtwiwi6076Nolan Gorman basically turned into Barry Bonds for me in one simulation lmao

    • @torn8to277
      @torn8to277 Год назад

      @@charliestergos1857same lol

  • @sneakgamecrazy
    @sneakgamecrazy Год назад +7

    it’s definitely harder because of how the real team changed the game. now the game actually values and has attributes for contact hitting and plate discipline and walks/9 and hits/9

  • @sheikhrasheed9009
    @sheikhrasheed9009 Год назад +6

    I love the rebuild however my only thing as an Econ major in college baseball salaries have gone above the rate of inflation since 2000 I would love to see a moneyball rebuild using the CPI inflation rate of baseball itself not the us cpi inflation

  • @igbsmf
    @igbsmf Год назад +13

    h e g e t s o n b a s e

  • @Erik-vn5xk
    @Erik-vn5xk Год назад +3

    Budget rebuilds are my favorite because it’s not that fun to just spend a ton of money imo. Currently doing my own with the Reds with the same budget and it’s fun to have to make smart moves to succeed

  • @aidand.343
    @aidand.343 Год назад +2

    You could do a realistic Moneyball rebuild, I feel like it would be fun. Mix the elements of realistic with an in-depth Moneyball rebuild. It would be really cool to see!

  • @drdeathinc2663
    @drdeathinc2663 Год назад +1

    the most absolute moneyball player on mlb is steven kwan. most consistent hitter ive seen

  • @Scheboygan8767
    @Scheboygan8767 Год назад +5

    This is one of my favorite rebuilds, it’s not just signing and trading for insane prospects and free agents

  • @alexanderentwistle5984
    @alexanderentwistle5984 Год назад

    Currently doing a long term A’s franchise… I have 2 generationals, Juan Soto for 26.7m, and Jackson Holiday. Plus 3 A potential starters. Have not won more than 70 games in 4 seasons.

  • @jakemialitsis4745
    @jakemialitsis4745 Год назад

    I personally wouldnt be locking up players for multi year extensions if youre doing a moneyball rebuild. The moneyball strategy was all about giving players a new lease of life and finding hidden gems through the draft or using a lot of platooning would be the way to go. Again though, the show's franchise mode isnt fleshed out enough to fully encapsulate the true moneyball experience as compared to something like ootp due to things like random tendancies being a big part of that game

  • @gilbertsanchez7511
    @gilbertsanchez7511 Год назад +1

    Moneyball was less about AVG and more OBP and Slugging right?

  • @kobeydeaton35
    @kobeydeaton35 Год назад +1

    Try moneyball but 2 players have to be on 12 mil + contracts cannot trade them, start with 60 mil think it could be difficult but also fun

  • @markvaughn2778
    @markvaughn2778 Год назад +2

    I haven't played '23 yet, but pitchers like Kyle Freeland and Jake Woodford seem like they would fit this well

  • @mikemoyer6107
    @mikemoyer6107 Год назад

    I did it based on obp and didn't worry about pitching and our record was 106- 56 batting .297 with a team era of 9.83 and won the world series

  • @mcgarbage4974
    @mcgarbage4974 Год назад +4

    You’re a good egg Ant

  • @pweezy2000
    @pweezy2000 Год назад +1

    Any good rosters to use? Trying to start long franchise but all of these rosters are missing key prospects or are just cheesy

    • @k-shea
      @k-shea Год назад

      following this. hoping for the answer

  • @curlyfries8509
    @curlyfries8509 Год назад +2

    Ant = best rebuilder… and please help the dodgers pitching

  • @damesalazar8176
    @damesalazar8176 Год назад

    Tracy Thompson winning mvp is crazy 42:00

  • @therealyannick1058
    @therealyannick1058 Год назад +1

    Could you do a brewers rebuild?

  • @appeardead
    @appeardead Год назад

    watching this in the future and laughing at the trade for chris flexen, hes been so bad this year the mariners are scared to put him in

  • @FaithFamilyHonor
    @FaithFamilyHonor Год назад

    Question for anyone. The little strikeout box that shows up after every strikeout with the number of Ks you have, why does that not show sometimes?

  • @fortunax22
    @fortunax22 Год назад

    Lol Flexens BB/9 went from 1.80 to 1.83 and it was a big let down....

  • @sirstratigiz9876
    @sirstratigiz9876 Год назад

    ik bro didn’t know what he was talking about immediately when he started talking about stolen bases lmao

  • @DavidJones-fs2gl
    @DavidJones-fs2gl Год назад +1

    what rosters are you using now?

    • @k-shea
      @k-shea Год назад

      following this. hoping for the answer

  • @cmdz1138
    @cmdz1138 Год назад

    i think you should limit the amount of trades that youre allowed to do somewhat. also maybe not trade guys signed in FA until at least the deadline. but i also understand these vids would be tough if you didnt win anything for like 10 years.

  • @lukemalloy5778
    @lukemalloy5778 Год назад

    Can someone tell me how do you see the screen with all your draft picks after signing

  • @Madison-in-da-house
    @Madison-in-da-house Год назад

    What website were you on that showed the pie chart for salaries that’s an interesting way to see who’s getting the most money.

    • @TheAntOrtiz
      @TheAntOrtiz  Год назад

      idk I just searched the athletics moneyball salary & that was a website that came up

  • @startAndParks
    @startAndParks Год назад

    S/o to you for the Flyers sweatshirt

  • @ParamoreFAV3
    @ParamoreFAV3 Год назад

    The Rays are the real Moneyball team; we’ve been extremely successful with how we approach the game.

  • @tcampsdesigns
    @tcampsdesigns Год назад

    Fire ant

  • @bensweetra4871
    @bensweetra4871 Год назад

    🐜=🐐

  • @trajohnson2640
    @trajohnson2640 Год назад

    Prospects and young players help a ton too

    • @TheAntOrtiz
      @TheAntOrtiz  Год назад +1

      Yeah, I didn't want to just fully rock a full prospect team tho cause I felt like that'd be cheating lol
      Basically stack a roster full of top prospects and just wait for them to be good 😂

    • @trajohnson2640
      @trajohnson2640 Год назад

      @@TheAntOrtiz true absolutely great video!

  • @coopercollins1780
    @coopercollins1780 Год назад

    The is where the glitchy low overall players would of came in

  • @derekarmstrong7078
    @derekarmstrong7078 Год назад

    So giants rebuild next plz

  • @GreenHornet0
    @GreenHornet0 Год назад

    Please do rays rebuild

  • @calebcicero7727
    @calebcicero7727 Год назад

    the shift really hasn’t changed much

  • @n1ghtt295
    @n1ghtt295 Год назад +1

    Day 3 of asking TheAntOrtiz to make a roster and upload it! 😎

    • @pweezy2000
      @pweezy2000 Год назад +1

      Need it or just a good one :/

    • @n1ghtt295
      @n1ghtt295 Год назад

      @Pweezy2000 I agree, and he seems to actually watch games, so he would update appropriately! Ha

  • @jimtrusselberry6536
    @jimtrusselberry6536 Год назад +1

    First

  • @DarinPirkey
    @DarinPirkey Год назад

    also the reason the league sucks right now lol

  • @v0lium
    @v0lium Год назад

    might use this strategy for my Dynasty

  • @RK-10
    @RK-10 Год назад

    This was a complete fail

    • @TheAntOrtiz
      @TheAntOrtiz  Год назад

      yeah kinda. I'd agree. That's why I asked for some input to do it again