@@jaemins_toenail7330 I meant it in the sense that, as a bilingual, I often mix up french and english and I sometimes forget how to say something in one language or the other so I end up talking in a mix of both!
It's really stressful when I go blank and I can't remember the word in the language I'm speaking to someone with but I remember it in the other language
@@lukagrey2968 Lol same here. I’m just gonna say what’s in my mind whatever the language is it and I’m just gonna say “idk what’s that’s word means in this language” and start to search that word means after😂
this is so relatable lmao the worst thing about being bilingual is when your brain stops working in both languages, I'm glad they can both cover for each other
Let me tell you when I tried buying ice cream in school in my mother language I didn't know how to say "flavour" in my language so I asked in English but the Shop keeper didn't understand me that's when my mind went blank 😂
@Lino-Is-MINE it's because Vernon almost never has trouble because he is more used to Korean than English. Imo mjnghao is not ignoring vernon he just assumes that vernon already knows because vernon grew up in Korea.
The fact is most of people will never find out that vernon's korean is better than joshua's🤣 On the first day where joshua joins seventeen, he didn't even know how to have a proper conversation in korean while vernon was already became a bilingual 😭
@@rosa_9614 I know but what I meant is their look. Who would know which one of them is better in korean without knowing them? Like vernon doesn't look korean so people would never know he speaks korean until he reveals it
I have a question always in My Mind that how can the foreign artists learn and speak korean so easily i mean not whole korean but almost half of the korean Do they get training for it or they learn it from their team members?
03:34 simultaneous translation or interpretation is seriously not easy, i used to study translation and interpretation and in the simultaneous transl. interpretation, we kept practicing and i can seriously say that it takes a certain amount of brain strength and different kind of thinking
@@ditichaudhari7951 not that but like you need to piece things in one language that it is in then move it to the target language all the while protecting the more or less exact meaning in what the person said or what the text says. It's seriously hard and takes quite the practice and only gets better with experience.
This is my moment. I studied translation too and I took the interpretation class, as you say, it's really hard. You have to listen the speaker, then translate in your head to the target language and then actually say it WHILE keeping listening to the speaker and translating another sentence(s). I've been searching for jobs and it seriously stresses me out when they are looking for an interpreter but say they want a translator. They are totally different things that requiere a different set of skills!! I can translate anything but doing interpretation, specially simultaneous is really not my forte; add the shyness and anxiety...Sorry, I had to rant a little. 😅
I agree. I work as a Kor-Eng Translator/Interpreter. But luckily we follow consecutive interpretation. So they speak in Kor/Eng then they pause then I interpret and say in Eng/Kor and then we continue. And while they are speaking I usually take notes. This would be more time consuming but its what i'd prefer. I have never done Simultaneous Interpretation and honestly I could never do it my brain would go crazyyyyy 😵💫
@@winternight1420 i understand the struggle as a fellow former translation-interpretation student. 😊😉❤ it's very understandable that you'd feel pressurized and stressed, interpretation is stressful without adding anxiety on it - i have anxiety as well, so i double understand you in a way. ❤❤❤
I’m also learning more than one language so I felt this. Learning one language is hard enough but two? Crazy difficult, and then you have moments where you can only remember a word in one specific language and the whole sentence doesn’t make sense. 😅
I just love how when Vernon malfunctions cuz there's a word he doesn't know in English he turns to Joshua, and when Joshua malfunctions bc he don't know a word in Korean he turns to Vernon, they cover each others weaknesses 😂
I’m also multilingual with Korean and English and I make these mistakes all the time! I can also speak basic Spanish so it gets extra confusing when I’m trying to say something in one language and can only think how to say it in another. They do much better than me so I’m super proud of them and it’s also a relief to know that others can have this confusion too
Shua: Hit you with the bricks Vernon: They would hit us- Both: OOH IT'S A JOKE that would forever be iconic Edit: I wanna thank people that liked my comment bcs it's my first time receiving this many likes!!
My problem is kinda weird cause I always forget what certain things call in my mother tongue. The first thing that came into my mind was English. I read English books, listen to English songs, and study in English, my RUclips recommendation are all in English. All the subtitles are in English. I only use my mother tongue when talk with others.
Exactly! It's worse when don't or can't remember a word in our mother tongue but we do in English and when ee say it in English (some) people would be straight up judging us😂
I love how Vernon and josh are struggling to just stay afloat with the languages and seungwan just over here running laps around them lmao im an army but this video has convinced me to delve deeper into svt but im scared im about to jump into an abyss of content.
They are adorable! I will never make fun of anyone who has a hard time with multiple languages. I'm trying to learn my second now and ugh it's so hard!
I'm a baby Carat, and I just gotta say: *I Love These Two.* Also, I'm studying Korean and Brushing up on my Spanish, and I can relate, lol. One thing that helps me is I realized how I do the EXACT same stuff for my own mother tongue ALL the time. Like in situations with 2 other native English speakers, I might say something in English that makes complete sense to me and one person, but doesn't make sense to the other person. So, I have to find totally different words and phrases to express what I'm trying to say so the 3rd person understands. Or times where I know what I wanna say but don't know which way to phrase it so it works best for the situation I'm in. So, I just sit there and grasp at possible phrasing till I find a good one. Or the times I just can't find the right words, or I'm struggling to get my tongue to say certain sounds that day... A LOT of the things I mess up with in my native tongue I also do with secondary(+) langauges. I've learned that a lot of people communicate differently, regardless of language or culture. Some people are more adstract, wordy, logical, relaxed, concise, emotional or non-emotional, some are better at reading people or expressing themselves while others aren't good at either or both. In the end, as long as you communicate your point thats the goal. Fluency is just being able to communicate your intended message more easily. Even native speakers aren't "perfect". Figure out how the people think, the culture, the language and how the main method of communication works- get a LOT of practice and exposure. Eventually you'll figure it out and be able to say the things you want to say in whatever way works best for you and the people around you- "perfectly" or not. You'll be good. 👍
@@annabivera3308 I speak french (as native language), english, german, swedish, italian, korean (I'm still learning it) and I'm currently learning mandarin. The tip I would give is to immerse yourself in your language learning. You have to make it a routine to learn efficiently. And contrary to what most people think, you are more efficient in your learning process if you don't only use textbooks, but watch movies/series, read novels or anything like that, listen to music in the language you want to learn. I would advise you to choose a language you're genuinely interested in; you will not learn efficiently if you're not interested in the language. For instance, don't learn Korean only if it's because everyone learns it and it sounds cool to say you can speak Korean!
I can speak three languages fluently sometimes I switch without even noticing and sometimes I forget some words . Haha I love this video , so relatable
omgurd i love relating to this bc i am bilingual or multi or whatever and i understand his feeeeeeels LOVE it. thank you for making this video. I FEEL SEEN!
6:00 Love how hao always askeds someone when he doesn't understand something and then explains it to the others. It's like the explanaition is spreading between all the foreign members xD
Vernon: “Im SoRry, W-wUt?..” Shua: “HiT yOu WiTh ThE BrIcKs?!” Vernon: “ThEy WiLl HiT uS.. *Both start to panic🙈😭✋* Both: “OUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH ITS A JOKKKKKKKEEEE” Man, I love svt so much 😂❤
when you switch from one language to another in between conversations is just so fun 🤣🤣🤣 coz there are things you can explain better in a certain language
I understand them so well. Am German, I speak of course German, my second language is English coz of school and self taught. Right now do I learn Korean for 1 year and 6 months and understand some words I didn't learned yet plus actually for a good year French and Spanish. But since I have my main focus on Korean to have it as my third language, I just now some words in French and Spanish, but will continue with that too. In conclusion, I understand Vernon and Joshua, that they struggle so much. It's hard to learn but not impossible. Kids learn faster than adults and the older you get as an adult the more it can be hard for you, but also not impossible to achieve it
I've always wondered how idols from other countries deal with being bilingual. in fact, you partially forget your native language, but you don’t know Korean perfectly either
I can really relate because im learning 4 languages (im fluent in english and arabic and learning french (5years) and korean (a few months)but i forget arabic words while speaking english (arabic is my language) and i also speak english and arabic words in one sentence and sometimes i even confuse korean and french with other words when im in saying a sentence
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I love how Vernon is so Korean and Joshua so American HAHAHAH
Yea
Yeah 😅
Sameeee its funny cuz obviously their looks are opposite
@@vanessajabbour4659 true. Vernon has the most western features imo which is why he’s so popular international
@@lunarialoonatic Makes sense. He stands out (in a good way)
as a bilingual this is so relatable 😭 They are lucky to have each other to help, same with junhui and minghao 🥺
i can speak like 3 languages and i'm learning two more, wdym?
@@jaemins_toenail7330 I meant it in the sense that, as a bilingual, I often mix up french and english and I sometimes forget how to say something in one language or the other so I end up talking in a mix of both!
@@vrgomoon i was just joking,, but i totally get you,, ive mixed up french and english so many times and even my mother tongue too
@@vrgomoon x2
It's really stressful when I go blank and I can't remember the word in the language I'm speaking to someone with but I remember it in the other language
I liked how the8 noticed Joshua and Vernon not understanding even tho he too didn't understand
I love when they pause mid-sentence when they cant find a word. That's relatable
Honestly, at least they don't do what I do and just start switching between the 2 languages when they don't know
@@lukagrey2968 Lol same here. I’m just gonna say what’s in my mind whatever the language is it and I’m just gonna say “idk what’s that’s word means in this language” and start to search that word means after😂
this is so relatable lmao the worst thing about being bilingual is when your brain stops working in both languages, I'm glad they can both cover for each other
Let me tell you when I tried buying ice cream in school in my mother language I didn't know how to say "flavour" in my language so I asked in English but the Shop keeper didn't understand me that's when my mind went blank 😂
😂 brain stops working in both languages I can understand
6:09 Love how Th8 explains the joke to the foreign members so that they don’t feel left out. ❤️
0:04 Vernon persist so much on being Korean that him pulling the foreign card means he was reeeeaaaaallllyyy clueless lol😂
Although he’s live in Korea since he was 5😂
Same thing happened to Sammy from the Rose after being in Korea😅
hit us with the bricks will forever be iconic
Exactly 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What is it from because I nearly spat my drink out 😂
When Minghao doesn't understand he always asks other members, like at 6:00 . And after he's known, immediately explained to Joshua and Junhui 🥺
while vernon stays clueless
@Lino-Is-MINE it's because Vernon almost never has trouble because he is more used to Korean than English. Imo mjnghao is not ignoring vernon he just assumes that vernon already knows because vernon grew up in Korea.
Vernon and Joshua genuinely scared that they will be hit with bricks will never not be funny
Joshua seemed a little too calm about it like 'damn, they said they would hit YOU with a brick' 😂😂
seungcheol complimenting shua at 4:56 made me giggle that was so wholesome
Was looking for a comment like this 😄 he looked so impressed and proud
"i'm sorry w-what what? they will hit us..?
ooh it's a joke-😅"
As a multilingual myself, couldn’t relate more😂
“China is closer to Korea” sends me 😂😂😂
it's fun to watch them struggle in korea or the other members in english
The fact is most of people will never find out that vernon's korean is better than joshua's🤣
On the first day where joshua joins seventeen, he didn't even know how to have a proper conversation in korean while vernon was already became a bilingual 😭
I mean vernon grew up in Korea, he even said hos korean was better than his english
@@rosa_9614 I know but what I meant is their look. Who would know which one of them is better in korean without knowing them? Like vernon doesn't look korean so people would never know he speaks korean until he reveals it
I have a question always in My Mind that how can the foreign artists learn and speak korean so easily i mean not whole korean but almost half of the korean
Do they get training for it or they learn it from their team members?
@@riddhipant2313 they study and have tutors but being able to practice with other members helps a ton
@@leo9597 Ohk you solved my long waited confusion thank you😂❤
5:55 entire foreign line was still buffering 😂
03:34 simultaneous translation or interpretation is seriously not easy, i used to study translation and interpretation and in the simultaneous transl. interpretation, we kept practicing and i can seriously say that it takes a certain amount of brain strength and different kind of thinking
its as if the mind goes blank for a minute
@@ditichaudhari7951 not that but like you need to piece things in one language that it is in then move it to the target language all the while protecting the more or less exact meaning in what the person said or what the text says. It's seriously hard and takes quite the practice and only gets better with experience.
This is my moment. I studied translation too and I took the interpretation class, as you say, it's really hard. You have to listen the speaker, then translate in your head to the target language and then actually say it WHILE keeping listening to the speaker and translating another sentence(s). I've been searching for jobs and it seriously stresses me out when they are looking for an interpreter but say they want a translator. They are totally different things that requiere a different set of skills!! I can translate anything but doing interpretation, specially simultaneous is really not my forte; add the shyness and anxiety...Sorry, I had to rant a little. 😅
I agree. I work as a Kor-Eng Translator/Interpreter. But luckily we follow consecutive interpretation. So they speak in Kor/Eng then they pause then I interpret and say in Eng/Kor and then we continue. And while they are speaking I usually take notes. This would be more time consuming but its what i'd prefer. I have never done Simultaneous Interpretation and honestly I could never do it my brain would go crazyyyyy 😵💫
@@winternight1420 i understand the struggle as a fellow former translation-interpretation student. 😊😉❤ it's very understandable that you'd feel pressurized and stressed, interpretation is stressful without adding anxiety on it - i have anxiety as well, so i double understand you in a way. ❤❤❤
I like how Vernon and jousha can help each other 😭
we stan multilingual KINGS 😭
🤩
ik this video is about Joshua and Vernon but I found Minghao asking Jeonghan for the translation and then telling Joshua and Vernon so cute
the ending was literally a cherry on top i love them soooo much😂❤️🔥
the vid was basically just vernon helping shua with korean😭
6:14 the face Vernon’s making is so funny oml💀
They look so lost but then they always come to the recue LOL it's cute
“OH ITS A JOKE” 💀
LOL Seungkwan defending Shua by saying he's from LA is so funny
I love vershua moments! theyre underrated. just one thing, the pause sound kinda breaks my ears when I have my earphones on 😂
6:48 them thinking they will get hit with the bricks will never not be funny, the look on vernons face lmaoooo
01:47 dude, that vernon outfit has always been iconic
"Hit us with the bricks" The fear in their eyes.
5:47 It's not because Vernon isn't fluent in Korean, but because he's Vernon. He always doze off 😂
Lets be real, its just shua looking at vernon for meaning in his life 😂
im learning two other languages and this is so relatable lmaoo. im glad i have a friend who is a native speaker of one of them to help me
I’m also learning more than one language so I felt this. Learning one language is hard enough but two? Crazy difficult, and then you have moments where you can only remember a word in one specific language and the whole sentence doesn’t make sense. 😅
@@Starlet3000000 yess lmao!! this happened last night where i forgot a word in my native language (english) but remembered it in spanish😭
4:02 it’s so obvious joshua is from LA from the way he talks lol
Joshua's voice sounds so fancy I cant!!!!!!😭💕💕
this channel is so underrated, i love your videos 😭 the editing of the videos are so good and i love the duo of vernon and joshua
I just love how when Vernon malfunctions cuz there's a word he doesn't know in English he turns to Joshua, and when Joshua malfunctions bc he don't know a word in Korean he turns to Vernon, they cover each others weaknesses 😂
2:38 I can't with DK😭😭
Exactly 😭😭
Joshua´s accent in English is so strong, it literally screams LA
I’m also multilingual with Korean and English and I make these mistakes all the time! I can also speak basic Spanish so it gets extra confusing when I’m trying to say something in one language and can only think how to say it in another. They do much better than me so I’m super proud of them and it’s also a relief to know that others can have this confusion too
Shua: Hit you with the bricks
Vernon: They would hit us-
Both: OOH IT'S A JOKE
that would forever be iconic
Edit: I wanna thank people that liked my comment bcs it's my first time receiving this many likes!!
My problem is kinda weird cause I always forget what certain things call in my mother tongue. The first thing that came into my mind was English. I read English books, listen to English songs, and study in English, my RUclips recommendation are all in English. All the subtitles are in English. I only use my mother tongue when talk with others.
Literally the same 😆
Plus being in English schools
+ The struggle of speaking a 3rd one is massive 🥲 ( arabic , English,german)
Literally the same 😆
Plus being in English schools
+ The struggle of speaking a 3rd one is massive 🥲 ( arabic , English,german)
Exactly! It's worse when don't or can't remember a word in our mother tongue but we do in English and when ee say it in English (some) people would be straight up judging us😂
Poor Josh. His brain only works in English when drunk apparently lol
Me as a little sociolinguist, this video is so interesting. Me as a America line fan, this video is so attractive. Thanks for editing
Plsjslal that hemorrhoids joke is the top 10 cursed moments of seventeen
I love how Vernon and josh are struggling to just stay afloat with the languages and seungwan just over here running laps around them lmao im an army but this video has convinced me to delve deeper into svt but im scared im about to jump into an abyss of content.
joshua has such a cali accent 😭 ik he’s from LA but i wasn’t expecting it to sound THAT LA 💀
WHO SAYS AIGO AT 1:48 LMAO I CANT STOP LAUGHING
I think it's Dino hahahaha
Where can i watch that video?
@@emmaely I thought it was dk tho
Oh idrk I could be either tbh
@@serendipityluvchim9532 going seventeen 2019 Ep.4
They are adorable! I will never make fun of anyone who has a hard time with multiple languages. I'm trying to learn my second now and ugh it's so hard!
I'm a baby Carat, and I just gotta say: *I Love These Two.*
Also, I'm studying Korean and Brushing up on my Spanish, and I can relate, lol.
One thing that helps me is I realized how I do the EXACT same stuff for my own mother tongue ALL the time.
Like in situations with 2 other native English speakers, I might say something in English that makes complete sense to me and one person, but doesn't make sense to the other person.
So, I have to find totally different words and phrases to express what I'm trying to say so the 3rd person understands.
Or times where I know what I wanna say but don't know which way to phrase it so it works best for the situation I'm in. So, I just sit there and grasp at possible phrasing till I find a good one.
Or the times I just can't find the right words, or I'm struggling to get my tongue to say certain sounds that day...
A LOT of the things I mess up with in my native tongue I also do with secondary(+) langauges.
I've learned that a lot of people communicate differently, regardless of language or culture. Some people are more adstract, wordy, logical, relaxed, concise, emotional or non-emotional, some are better at reading people or expressing themselves while others aren't good at either or both.
In the end, as long as you communicate your point thats the goal.
Fluency is just being able to communicate your intended message more easily.
Even native speakers aren't "perfect".
Figure out how the people think, the culture, the language and how the main method of communication works- get a LOT of practice and exposure.
Eventually you'll figure it out and be able to say the things you want to say in whatever way works best for you and the people around you- "perfectly" or not. You'll be good. 👍
As a Chinese, them speaking Chinese is just so cuteeee and they’re pronunciation is quite accurate!
As someone who speaks 7 different languages, I can fully relate to them
wow! thats amazing! may i ask whichones you are fluent in? and also how do you learn them? can u give some tips?
@@annabivera3308 I speak french (as native language), english, german, swedish, italian, korean (I'm still learning it) and I'm currently learning mandarin. The tip I would give is to immerse yourself in your language learning. You have to make it a routine to learn efficiently. And contrary to what most people think, you are more efficient in your learning process if you don't only use textbooks, but watch movies/series, read novels or anything like that, listen to music in the language you want to learn. I would advise you to choose a language you're genuinely interested in; you will not learn efficiently if you're not interested in the language. For instance, don't learn Korean only if it's because everyone learns it and it sounds cool to say you can speak Korean!
"hit us with the bricks?😰" "oooh it's a joke...😯"
I am so glad the foreign line each have someone to help them Vernon and Joshua with english and Jun and the8 for chinese
The foreigner card is the most powerful card of them all lmfao
I feel Vernon. A lot! English is my first language and I get confused by words sometimes. 😅 Keep fighting Vernon! You got this!
saw someone tweet about this video and now i’m in love with your channel!!
As a trilingual this video was so relatable and this is so adorbsss
Y’all off topic but at 1:24 the way Scoups is clinging to Jeonghan 😭
I can speak three languages fluently sometimes I switch without even noticing and sometimes I forget some words . Haha I love this video , so relatable
omgurd i love relating to this bc i am bilingual or multi or whatever and i understand his feeeeeeels LOVE it. thank you for making this video. I FEEL SEEN!
I love how most of this is Joshua struggling meanwhile Vernon is the one helping him 🤣🤣
I kept looking for a video like this and I finally found it - thank you!!!
6:00 Love how hao always askeds someone when he doesn't understand something and then explains it to the others. It's like the explanaition is spreading between all the foreign members xD
3:04 PLEASE THEY LOOK SO LITTLE HERE
I'm not a carat, but dang, Vernon is one beautiful human being. those eyelashes brooo 6:43
its just Vernon helping shua😂
also the the other way once
Vernon: “Im SoRry, W-wUt?..”
Shua: “HiT yOu WiTh ThE BrIcKs?!”
Vernon: “ThEy WiLl HiT uS..
*Both start to panic🙈😭✋*
Both: “OUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH ITS A JOKKKKKKKEEEE”
Man, I love svt so much 😂❤
the way shua says underscore sound so expensive
1:56 Poor the8 looks so lost and confused 😭
Joshua looks so cute when he doesn't know what's going on 😭
when you switch from one language to another in between conversations is just so fun 🤣🤣🤣 coz there are things you can explain better in a certain language
02:41 woozi?🤣🤣🤣🤣
“I don’t know what that means in English” is the most most collective multilingual experience ever lmao
This is effortlessly hilarious 🤣 Svt always brings a smile to my face. Our poor multilingual buddies forever struggling ahahahha
could you do one with the china line? this is so funny
0:01 not even a min and ack 💀🖐he looks fineeee
omg really miss vernon with ginger or blonde hair color
I was drinking water and they were guessing what’s beaver in Korean and then DK goes woozi and there was a fountain
I understand them so well. Am German, I speak of course German, my second language is English coz of school and self taught. Right now do I learn Korean for 1 year and 6 months and understand some words I didn't learned yet plus actually for a good year French and Spanish. But since I have my main focus on Korean to have it as my third language, I just now some words in French and Spanish, but will continue with that too. In conclusion, I understand Vernon and Joshua, that they struggle so much. It's hard to learn but not impossible. Kids learn faster than adults and the older you get as an adult the more it can be hard for you, but also not impossible to achieve it
The last one is so iconic - I just love them 😂❤
I need a tshirt that says unable to simultaneously translate 😂 3:34
I don’t even know my own language (Irish) so I’m impressed with Joshua and Vernon ❤
Joshua's accent sounds so expensive. 😂😂😂
It happens to me when i am giving exam in my native language i forget the words in that language and instead remember it in English and vise versa
Vernon is just Soo Korean on the other hand Joshua is so American I love it
I always wonder if when they are alone together if they talk in English or Korean, or maybe like the switch through without realizing it
I love your videos💯
Vernon: "I'm sorry what?.........................."
Joshua:"They'll hit you with the bricks."
Both: "Ohhh its a joke its a joke.'
the funniest part is that joshua struggles more in Korean than vernon who isn't even fully korean-
I can speak 3 languages but sometimes in an active conversation I just STOP and look blindly…. I forget all the 3 languages word LMAO
I relate. I think at one point i forgot the word for door in English and in Spanish for 3 days! how.. hoooowwwww!
The green room videos are still superior
I've always wondered how idols from other countries deal with being bilingual. in fact, you partially forget your native language, but you don’t know Korean perfectly either
Its funny how Joshua have korean look but from LA, and Vernon having foreign look but fluent in korean 🤣
1:28 Joshua be like - I'm American so, I couldn’t understand what are yu say! Teach me in English😂🤌
I can really relate because im learning 4 languages (im fluent in english and arabic and learning french (5years) and korean (a few months)but i forget arabic words while speaking english (arabic is my language) and i also speak english and arabic words in one sentence and sometimes i even confuse korean and french with other words when im in saying a sentence
american line is saur cuteee
4:00 WHY SHUA LOOKS SO HANDSOME!!! I KEPT REPEATING THAT PART WAHHH 😭🤍
It's not even funny how much knowing 2 languages at a high level breaks your brain. Especially if you learn them later in life.