2043 An Omnidirectional Wind Turbine

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  • @clint9344
    @clint9344 Год назад +36

    Robert you are getting to be the mack daddy of home engineering lately... Keep up the awesome work, your mind is never ceasing and that is what we all love about you... God bless be in peace God speed.

    • @paddy2661
      @paddy2661 Год назад +5

      Spoton I recon he needs a portrait photographe taken in that suit as generations to come will be looking back at his genius work.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад +2

      wow - cheers mate lol

    • @johnbarry8185
      @johnbarry8185 Год назад

      He is definitely in line with Eric Lathwaite.

  • @leightonwestbury92
    @leightonwestbury92 Год назад +4

    Robert your passion and enthusiasm are infectious .............and I, whole heartedly appreciate that, thankyou.

  • @GrugBug-f7j
    @GrugBug-f7j Год назад +7

    Solid!
    Top KEK!
    You never cease to amaze.
    Your laugh when you are pleased with your results is priceless.
    Keep educating the masses.
    Knowledge is power, now you know and knowing is half the battle. The other half involves you doing something constructive with the knowledge. Now get experimenting and building something.
    Remember to share your knowledge with others, pass it on.
    Peace be with you.

  • @10sheds21
    @10sheds21 Год назад +93

    That's super, a whole row along a shed roof would look divine. I so love watching your videos and seriously contemplate buying a 3D printer.

    • @patrickwatkins7572
      @patrickwatkins7572 Год назад +2

      me to. Robert, i would appreciate a generator test some time, - with and without an iron core, because your channel and audience stays awesome, and needs too see the comparison, in your style.

    • @rumples2698
      @rumples2698 Год назад +17

      the shed would just look silly with all those hair dryers on top

    • @cerberes
      @cerberes Год назад +10

      @@rumples2698So assume we’ll put solar up to run the hair dryers to spin the turbines?

    • @10sheds21
      @10sheds21 Год назад +1

      Lol

    • @DrewNewmanAce
      @DrewNewmanAce Год назад +2

      Deffo buy a printer, and lots of filament 😂

  • @Will-d2g
    @Will-d2g Год назад +2

    Put up a tall pole with a star shaped support and have several of those supports running down the pole with 5 of those turbines at the end of each star shaped support, then link them together in an electrical hub to produce quite a bit of energy. I hope you understand what I am saying. You have a great idea there and if done right, you can make a great deal of money there!

  • @quasimojo7399
    @quasimojo7399 Год назад +6

    The most genius designs are always so simple, and this is a great example! Bravo sir, absolutely spiffing!

  • @ch5139
    @ch5139 Год назад +2

    Imagine telling a kid (or adult for that matter) in the 70’s that you are “just going to print something”, no not a letter on the daisy wheel printer, a solid useable object ! Those 3D printers have certainly found a home amongst your other traditional workshop tools.

  • @AllisonAndrew98
    @AllisonAndrew98 11 месяцев назад +1

    It is wonderful, the way you deal with this subject is a unique as it examines its possibilities
    Thank you!

  • @peterjol
    @peterjol Год назад +7

    I would like to see the performance of a much bigger version...perhaps something that matches the outside diameter of the bladed version

    • @andrewsmithmilan1780
      @andrewsmithmilan1780 Год назад +1

      You'd need an industrial sized (very expensive) 3D printer for that. The normal bed size won't get much bigger, or Robert would do so.

    • @christopherd.winnan8701
      @christopherd.winnan8701 Год назад +1

      @@andrewsmithmilan1780 Would it be possible to assemble the fins that were printed separately that could be locked together. I assume that this is the same way that they make jet engines, by assembling bits of fin together. This design could also be printed in sections to make a much larger version.
      What exact size were you thinking?
      What would be the optimum size for a cheap FDM printer do you think?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад +1

      go for it build one and test

  • @ThePwnageHobo
    @ThePwnageHobo Год назад +16

    I think it's more accurate to say that wind turbines typically come in 2 primary form factors, and the one you didn't mention, Vertical Axis Wind Turbine (VAWT) is also omnidirectional. It would be interesting to see this ball design vs equivalent scale HAWT and VAWT designs for starting windspeed, survival windspeed, noise, and power generation curve

    • @oliverwilson11
      @oliverwilson11 Год назад +6

      VAWTS are no more omnidirectional than HAWTS. Both can make energy from wind blowing in any horizontal direction.
      Neither can make energy from wind blowing upwards or downwards, which this one can. But the wind doesn't blow that way so that's not something people usually design for

    • @ulgencutube
      @ulgencutube Год назад +2

      Actually wind can blow up or even down along the edge of a roof and in front of an obsticle, and even at the end of a dead end ally. Congrats to Robert.

    • @doria567
      @doria567 8 месяцев назад

      @@ulgencutube In truth, there are also so-called katabatic winds and those who go sailing know this and fear them because they put spreaders in the water; but these are not winds that can be used to produce electricity.
      In truth there are also winds that go upwards, the well-deserving thermals that glider pilots know well and look for but even these cannot be used to produce electricity, which is in truth Robert's objective.

  • @minky9717
    @minky9717 Год назад

    Just fired up printer, got all magnets etc and can't wait to assemble this. Thanks Robert, love your videos and your enthusiasm is just contagious

  • @fauxhound5061
    @fauxhound5061 Год назад

    I just stumbled on your video without any prior knowledge, and I learned alot! You're a great teacher, thank you!

  • @ChetSpencer
    @ChetSpencer Год назад +2

    Pure genius Sir! This is such a brilliant idea.
    If only there was a UPS that could take an external DC input and go into "off grid mode" on the fly.
    Cheers from across the pond

  • @nirgunapa56
    @nirgunapa56 Год назад +2

    Would scaling up increase output? It would be ideal for boats that often have small wind turbines to generate electricity. It wouldn't need a vane, just a bearing on the support.

  • @alycapo3391
    @alycapo3391 Год назад +1

    Please some details on the serpentine coil. What was the distance on the jig, how many turns etc etc

  • @EastBayFlipper
    @EastBayFlipper Год назад +4

    Thank you 🍻
    These videos are absolute gold for me as I have abundant turbulent wind and don't want to slice and dice my flying friends 😮

  • @VeryWarmBear1
    @VeryWarmBear1 Год назад +3

    Well I was going to mention setting the double blade generator at 15° angle to the wind allowing more power to be extracted discovered by the Jacobs wind power company. Now this may remove the tilt as an option with the ball generator.

  • @kennethbain4290
    @kennethbain4290 Год назад +1

    Always coming at things from a different direction - well done that man !

  • @nexxus0320
    @nexxus0320 Год назад +1

    Mr. Smith, you are a very good teacher, you lead by example and are an inspiration to me personally. i am spending more and more of my time on your channel and i hope to soon make a turbine based on your designs. Because of your channel i am also studying 3D printing with the intention of buying a 3d printer. I hope to be your student for some time to come. Thank you

  • @russellzauner
    @russellzauner Год назад +1

    Since it's roughly round, it could be mounted inside one of those nose bump things some older semi trucks put on their front grille to help aerodynamics; the air pressure creates enough of a laminar flow across the surface of it that it should ignore the turbine and see it as mostly a smooth surface. Until it's going fast enough for it to build up enough pressure to create that effect, it's not going fast enough to make a difference and is still generating the whole time without adding to, but improving, drag.

  • @MihailG5541
    @MihailG5541 10 месяцев назад +1

    Evolution of vertical generators: Savinius -> Ugrinsky -> C-rotor -> Darieus.
    Until the omnidirectional Darieus rotor with rotation in opposite directions has been tested - all these are just toys

    • @MihailG5541
      @MihailG5541 10 месяцев назад

      C-Rotor as Darrieus should be used with the NACA 0018 profile or even with the best profiles WUP 1615 or NACA 0018TC-39.
      Angle of attack is 2.5..4.5

  • @orpheuscreativeco9236
    @orpheuscreativeco9236 Год назад +19

    WOW, that's the ticket! 🙌 I love the conscientious design and the fact that it is omnidirectional. I believe the output losses are completely worth safety and portability. Thanks for sharing this awesome design with us. ✌️ Have a wonderful day Rob!

  • @markkolmorgan7728
    @markkolmorgan7728 Год назад

    I love it! Install a sequence of them in a pvc tube with your Rose air screw at the upper end, hand crank your Rose to "start the siphon" and it should draw air through the tube spinning a number of tiny power generator spheres.

  • @ياسرالفارس-ض9ح
    @ياسرالفارس-ض9ح Год назад

    Thank you, amazing work. Your idea is very wonderful. It is spherical in shape and will also rotate if you place it vertically, and perhaps then if you lower the spacer in the middle and make it with one flow of the blades from the top of the ball to the bottom, it will rotate as is the case in fireplace fume hoods.

  • @rudolfvanacker8569
    @rudolfvanacker8569 Год назад +2

    This is a perfect design for people without a 3D printer to copy or enlarge using standard materials like plywood (marine or standard) and careful building to maintain balance and strength. If enlarged it should be able to use 6 wings with evenly distributed magnets between them as well as lower edge support. It would appear that the diameter of the ball is about 100 to 125mm, comparing it to Robert's hand width.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад +1

      it's 104mm in diameter mate if you grab the stl and upload them into tinkercad you will get all the measurements

  • @mikeyb7263
    @mikeyb7263 Год назад +1

    Robert is like a virus: when you can't find the original key, make something that looks like it, change it by 'bits 'n' bobs,' with the best tools available, until you feel that satisfying click.

    • @AndreaDingbatt
      @AndreaDingbatt Год назад

      Lol, ADREED,!!

    • @mikeyb7263
      @mikeyb7263 Год назад

      It should have read, "the most affordable tool," since that's how I tend the view of my own garden. @@AndreaDingbatt

    • @AndreaDingbatt
      @AndreaDingbatt Год назад

      @@mikeyb7263 I AGREE WITH YOU ABSOLUTELY,,,,
      AGAIN!!😁
      (PLEASE FORGIVE THE SHOUTING, & SPELLING MISTAKES,,,PROBLEMS WITH KEYVOARD AND LOSS OF SPECS)
      AFFORDABILITY AND UTILITY ARE THE WAY I HAVE TO VIEW EVERYTHING AS WELL.🙂

    • @mikeyb7263
      @mikeyb7263 Год назад

      Nothing to forgive, nor can I despite my desire. We've all been 'just here' at certain times and places. Magnets between the moments.@@AndreaDingbatt

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад

      lol - nice one mate lol

  • @pauldean9671
    @pauldean9671 Месяц назад

    Speaking of things being "the best", this is one of the best videos I think you've made. But don't let that stop you making something even better!
    This is going to be my next project. Now time to order some wire and magnets!

  • @pierrelombaard820
    @pierrelombaard820 Год назад +1

    Very good exploring different methods
    Low wind speeds less than 1 m/sec is what we are working toward testing that is difficult
    I personally do not like tests performed with wind by hair drier or a fan

  • @aaronsj80
    @aaronsj80 Год назад +6

    Neat. I wonder what kind of airflow patterns it would generate if you powered it as a motor.

  • @doria567
    @doria567 8 месяцев назад

    What interests me most about the object, taking its effective efficiency for granted, are its small dimensions.
    This belief could solve the dimensional problem that is blocking one of my projects.
    Therefore I ask Roberte if it is possible to buy one.
    I trust in the courtesy of positive feedback.
    I have always loved the genius of the simple and this is an excellent example of it.

  • @WileHeCoyote
    @WileHeCoyote Год назад +2

    Brilliant! Love it! Stick it in a gyroscope with self contained led's and stick it on a pole! Call it a street lamp from 2077

    • @WileHeCoyote
      @WileHeCoyote Год назад +3

      Especially if the leds are whizzing around on the blade itself, with only the magnets being stationary, it would look like an arc reactor, seizure warning may be in order tho 😅

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад

      lol

  • @meateaw
    @meateaw Год назад +1

    I mean, there are already vertical turbines, and they are equally efficient regardless of wind direction.

  • @markplumber3635
    @markplumber3635 Год назад +3

    A series of them on a house roof ridge feeding into a battery would be brilliant. Better still could this charge up a sand battery ??

    • @TimeSurfer206
      @TimeSurfer206 Год назад +1

      Both. Use the Sand Battery as the "Dump load" for when the batteries are full.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад +1

      Timesurfer is spot on mate

  • @BurntKittyForge-pl8ol
    @BurntKittyForge-pl8ol Год назад

    lol the end keep me up with what your doing lately , i have good results adding 2" inch foamboard insulation on the outside , i use 2" cut piece of 3/4" pex pipe for spacer , i use i think 1" hole saw with the bit removed from the center , and core spots where the pex goes into the foam i roll some thin foam on the pex and fill the spacer with foam from the hole saw and use 3 1/2" inch decking screw or stainless with a 1/4" inch washer so i paint the foam with roof tar for the heck of it and add those spacers on the edge , then i used 1/2" cement board in 3x5 foot sheets cut to screw over the foamboard with the spacer and the washer over the cement board , so i take a one quart acrylic stucco patch (they have acrylic cement or concrete repair too but i use stucco patch acrylic one quart dries white ($9 , $7 prebidenflation ) and up to half acrylic white paint or whichever i did purple and it goes thru the plaster (same color if scratched) ....cement board is not rated exterior but i figure it isn't exterior with the acrylic cement , i used regular thinset layer between for filler on this one ....i have some block post stuff i'll build soon sort of like pole barn stuff but with block posts, columns i guess .....i've been digging a trench and pouring 4 gallons of taurus sc fipronil in it for bug damage because i have emergency restorations going on i take breaks to go online a lot because the heat lately ,,, i hope i'll get it done fast because i have sheds to rebuild and i might make a post beam 12' foot by 12" foot guest room up on posts but i'll cover it with seashells maybe and same method foamboard , cement board , 6x6 posts , metal roof the dimension is for no permit where i live ... hopefully i'll get some bigger actual tech type projects going out of my metalshop soon but i have big projects ,cars a boat motorcycle truck etc everythign becuase i getting back in shape from being blind still

    • @BurntKittyForge-pl8ol
      @BurntKittyForge-pl8ol Год назад

      urgh lol thing is for across outer walls i have the inside stripped and i use 4" foamboard for r20 the wall studs are about r1 per inch (wood) so it's riddles cover those too but i can add 2" furring strips horizontally across right thru the siding and into each wall stud for lateral strength , creates a much stronger wall !!! (edit: the studs this method only not covered with foam where the furring stip bolts on through from exterior and add 2" R10 extra with 2 1/2" thicker outer ....the concept of stucco involves leaving space at the bottom for drainage if water somehow was in the wall and it uses support blocks spaced on the ground so i'm adding footer wall , built in resting spots , can add standard stucco layer thicke rin future or brick very versatile/ mssg too long again lol

  • @Luziferne
    @Luziferne Год назад +6

    Those are brilliant for any small homestead or off-grid barn! Just set a few rows of them on your roof, the spacing doesn't look to be that important, as long as they aren't touching, me thinks.
    The teaching about the distance from the Multi-Rotor of a quarter of a rotor length should perhaps still be adhered to, shouldn't it? In this case maybe a quarter of the ball diameter?
    About the Multi-Rotor, btw: If you add another set of Rotor blades, a quarter of the blade length spaced out on an axle and 2nd&3rd equally spaced out in angle, would that 3rd set of blades add to the strength of wind generator? Or would it be detrimental?
    Because a 3rd set would, if not detrimental to the power generation, simultaneously act as a wind wane to keep the Rotors in the wind as well as the possibility to add in power generation

    • @christopherd.winnan8701
      @christopherd.winnan8701 Год назад +1

      A third set would be an interesting experiment, as would trying one of the new globe designs stuck out as a rear fin.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад +1

      cheers mate and i would think so - but i am not sure

  • @novanut1964
    @novanut1964 Год назад +1

    roberts windmill shop, looks like a big seller. good video

  • @silverbladeTE
    @silverbladeTE Год назад +3

    Hm...a "Wind Wall" of those could be very interesting! ;)

  • @Iskenderus
    @Iskenderus Год назад

    That satisfied smile and laugh made me happy for you :) Good work!

  • @JoeyBlogs007
    @JoeyBlogs007 Год назад +1

    I think if this was on an axis like a regular wind turbine with a wind vane, it could be even more efficient.

  • @dansmif
    @dansmif Год назад +18

    Super interesting as always Robert! Have you considered creating a leaderboard with the test results for all the different types of wind turbine you've made so far? I suppose it might be tricky to compare some of them since they're different sizes though.

    • @yvan2563
      @yvan2563 Год назад +5

      And he would need a controlled, constant wind testing setup, so that means inside testing only with a big fan of some sort to simulate wind. But that would be amazing to see the results for each current turbines and futures ones.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад +2

      no mate i haven't considered that

    • @SG-js2qn
      @SG-js2qn Год назад +2

      @@ThinkingandTinkering I've seen similar tests / ratings being done for novel computer fan blade designs (on RUclips), and it seems valuable not only as data but as content.

  • @guyvr3225
    @guyvr3225 Год назад

    fine design, finally printed and assembled one. Only managed to lay 65 windings of 0.3! Gives max 2V with a hair dryer and even wit gale-force PIA it barely turns . Had expected more from it.
    We are looking for something better. 'Twas nice to try

  • @deanrowles3665
    @deanrowles3665 Год назад +2

    Hi Robert, great design, would be handy as a comparison on the hill with the dual blade design at the same wind speed

  • @paddyfolan
    @paddyfolan Год назад +2

    Will this be going at the bottom of the Darwin wind turbine? Would love to see what’s the best for the DWT whether it’s the cone, flower or double propeller.

  • @mrpop846
    @mrpop846 Год назад +1

    This resembles Liam F1 wind turbine. You should definitely check that out if you haven't already. It would be interesting to see a diy version of it.

  • @makinganoise6028
    @makinganoise6028 Год назад +1

    I like this, much less drag than whirring blades, much lower profile, so potential to be put in lots of places and gather energy, the design lends itself to being moulded, so cheaper to make, especially at larger scale. Some airflow dynamics clever sausage, should run simulations of this at different scales, to understand more about what power could be generated for different sizes and optimize the design. on a larger scale, you could use the space in each hemisphere to house batteries and also have a storage solution.

  • @silentferret1049
    @silentferret1049 Год назад +1

    The vertical Helical wind turbine is another good design and also an 360 degree wind flow usage. Not omni directional but since most wind travels in a relative plane to the ground then it works well enough. It can sit low to objects and not have the giant blades and can self balance itself and not self destruct like the big ones do. Can also have a extra brake on the shaft because it can have 2 points of holding, top and bottom. Those 2 points can give a fair bit of room for everything.
    Omnidirectional would be good on mobile platforms like cars, RVs and even busses. Mostly for when they are just sitting around, they can help with some recharging instead of just relying on main charging. They can also power something remotely like a trailer and even while in use so it would cut down wiring to the main vehicle. Heck these things could be positioned onto Telephone poles up in the air spinning away without causing too much harm to the surrounding. Given the number of poles like that in just a town alone, it would give a pretty healthy energy charge any time of the day.

  • @quantumenergysolutions9128
    @quantumenergysolutions9128 Год назад +4

    Nice one Mate! Now you have a 3d printer can you explore the Lily prop?

  • @glencahalin4786
    @glencahalin4786 Год назад

    I'm thinking of a hybrid, with a hemisphere made as the nose-cone for the dual blade turbine but it's possible that'd interfere with the airflow too much, making it more efficient at some windspeeds and less efficient at others, the trick would be tuning it to fit the most common/expected windspeeds for it's sighting.

  • @totherarf
    @totherarf Год назад +2

    Yet another item of interest!
    I wonder if there is any benefit in having the blades opposing? You have holes in the "base" so air can go from one side to the other. With opposing blades this would cause a loss in the tailing blade, but if it were reversed you would get effectively two blades working in tandem (even if they will stop and reverse when the wind changes direction.
    To be honest the wind rarely does a full 180 very often!
    Eather way, cheers for making me think!

    • @davidmunro2077
      @davidmunro2077 Год назад

      The wind always does a 180degree shift when I am turning round to go home on my bike

    • @totherarf
      @totherarf Год назад +1

      @@davidmunro2077 May the wind blow gently on your back! ?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад

      there are holes mate - check out the drawing

    • @totherarf
      @totherarf Год назад

      @@ThinkingandTinkering That is what I said. Could the airflow Through give extra input from the trailing blade if it is the handedness of the blades were correct!

  • @rfiskillingussoftly6568
    @rfiskillingussoftly6568 Год назад +3

    I found it a great place to start when trying to make things better....simply mirroring how it was made tends to work better... I guess that shouldnt be as surprising in an upside down clown world! Lol!
    Great video man!

  • @sk8pkl
    @sk8pkl Год назад +1

    I dont know if the air flow reacts the way we think it does instinctively. It seems like this type of "turbine" desing reacts more to the preassure changes instead of the flow. It seems to me like this is why it is omnidirectional.
    Maybe mix both types in one desing into one turbine? (Directional and omnidirectional). One must be more efficient to put in front of the other. Maybe new record efficiency threshold lies abit further down your road!

  • @mvardy82
    @mvardy82 Год назад

    Wonder if that would reduce the laminar flow requirement for the more standard wind turbine design. If it does, that would make a massive difference to the energy production of most farms, where the distance between turbines and orientation of turbine relative to the dominant wind direction are major limiting factors.

  • @blainethompson6510
    @blainethompson6510 Год назад +1

    Similarities to the blade less hydro turbine; cool beans

  • @leberlin
    @leberlin Год назад

    Brilliant little video once again, keep them coming looking forward to the next omnidirectional ball video.👍👏

  • @oplkfdhgk
    @oplkfdhgk Год назад +3

    have you tested installing wind turbine on roof and putting something around it to accelerate the wind speed? like something where you concentrate large amount of wind into small wind turbine. i think that could be a cost effective solution.

  • @Nobe_Oddy
    @Nobe_Oddy Год назад +1

    even though it's bidirectional it seem to have a most efficient angle that the wind should be blowing on to ... I would THINK its straight onto the face of the spiral, (more testing is needed to prove this true) and if this is the case then the other spiral is nothing but dead weight.... so if you were to put a bearing on the pole so it could rotate around, and put arm with vertical fin this would steer it so the spiral is always facing straight onto the wind..... and of course there's no need for the other spiral at this point so it could be removed... OR another piece that CONTINUES the spiral onto the other side would create more surface area and catch more wind, spinning it faster..... so it's still omnidirectional but you could create a larger diameter AND you could even design that secondary spiral to be the optimal shape according to fluid dynamic principles (sort of like how there have been new propeller designs created for boats that were designed in computer programs that no one had thought would be of any improvement but turned out to VASTLY increase performance.... they sort of look like loops and are complete counter intuitive looking lol - I just looked it up and they're called toroidal propellers ) - oh and I'm just spitting out thoughts that come to mind when I see your amazing creations... I'm not trying to tell you to do this or that, or to say it would be better if you did it this was or that.... maybe they'll inspire you to come up with a new idea or maybe I'm just getting annoying (don't hesitate to tell me to stfu LOL)
    - Have you looked into torodial propellers on the channel before? ( I can't say I've watched all 2000+ videos since I discovered your channel a few weeks ago LOL ) if you haven't maybe it's something you might want to explore

  • @darklich14
    @darklich14 Год назад

    Always love the laugh of admiration at the universe showing us a fun time

  • @ministerRichardIanofKerr
    @ministerRichardIanofKerr Год назад

    Robert.. Looking again at this design, I am reminded of old ideas of ours to play with water prop designs. This design with the update where you hollowed out the blades I rekon could be a good prop design for boats.

  • @jsmariani4180
    @jsmariani4180 Год назад

    It looks like the combined windmill/generator should work great in high winds. Can't imagine that it will turn in light winds.

  • @liv7680
    @liv7680 Год назад

    if you dont link the magnets together but instead offset one side of them to fill the gap between two magnets on the opposite rotor and reverse polarity of the magnets you could essentially simulate double the speed of the rotor.
    Right rotor N hits coil 1->left rotor S hits coil 1->right coil N coil 1.
    Left rotor magnet should sit in the gap between the right rotor magnets 1 and 2.
    One side all S
    one side all N
    magnetic field would hit the coil twice as much in one complete rotation

  • @stephenpearce3880
    @stephenpearce3880 Год назад +1

    Robert, very interesting... Could you build one of these at the same size as the bladed version to test and see which one is more efficient at different wind speeds etc..

  • @Xero1of1
    @Xero1of1 Год назад +1

    Hmm. The propeller blades are mirror images of each other, meaning they'll spin in the same direction. Laminar flow from the right side to the left side along the axle would dictate that the propellers be reversed images rather than mirror images for better air movement through the device. I also wonder if it would be possible to counter-rotate one side relative to the other...

    • @christopherd.winnan8701
      @christopherd.winnan8701 Год назад +1

      Could you explain the difference between a mirror image and a reversed image please?
      How would you set up the gearing for counter-rotation?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад +1

      contra rotation isn't a good idea mate the magnets would in effect cancel each other out for 180 degrees of turn halving the output and it would introduce cogging raising the start wind speed

    • @Xero1of1
      @Xero1of1 Год назад

      @@ThinkingandTinkering Hmm. Okay, that makes sense. I was thinking of gearing where if you have to counter-rotating objects, their speed relative to each other would be double that of whatever is driving it since they're spinning against each other.

    • @Xero1of1
      @Xero1of1 Год назад

      @@christopherd.winnan8701 Sure thing. Take a look at the spiral on the left side. Then the spiral on the right. They mirror each other in the middle. If it was a reversed image, the spiral would look like it continues through both sides, rather than get to the middle and then reverse. So, in my mind, a reversed image is a mirror image flipped along the horizontal plane. I thought that if the spiral was continuous through both sides, the wind would have an easier time flowing through, rather than hitting a wall in the middle and having to divert 90° at the spiral on the other side.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад +1

      it is good thinking mate and i get where you are coming from but with axial flux like this it would be counter productive - i think - but that is only what I think - you could always give it a go and see how it works for you - cheers mate and keep the ideas coming

  • @surfonaut
    @surfonaut Год назад

    This is Genius, so glad I found your channel.
    Where are all the big guys doing this..?

  • @19Edurne
    @19Edurne Год назад +4

    Would have been interesting to measure the output power of that turbine. A good idea nonetheless.

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot Год назад +2

    If you run them like motors, what's the pattern of the wind they produce around them?

  • @davidresar8256
    @davidresar8256 Год назад

    That is very much along the lines of the LIAM F1. Now, I couldn't see how much voltage it was putting out... but I'm sure multiples could be the ticket! Any idea what the wind speed of the hair dryer being used???

  • @marklefebvre5758
    @marklefebvre5758 Год назад +1

    I would love to see you explore coils and power generation. So, undert the same input power, how do different coils behave? Serpentine the best? size of wire? number of turns? all underst the same spin rate. That would tell us a lot about how best to make the type of electricity we need, high voltage or high amperage. Figuring out which types of coils, how many turns, how think the wire, how the shape impacts it, etc. strenth of magnets.

  • @silver93ification
    @silver93ification Год назад

    Hi Robert, I disciver your channel yesturday, and what you share is absolutly amasing. It also unlock some questions in my own experimentation I’m actually doing on searching new kind of turbine ! :)
    Hope I can share it with you when I will finalise it !

  • @princedemiterios2488
    @princedemiterios2488 Год назад +1

    Seems efficient compared to its size , well made , all the best . 🙏🏻

  • @peterwiley4383
    @peterwiley4383 Год назад

    Love your enthusiasm for success, Rob. 👍👍👍

  • @pauldent3059
    @pauldent3059 Год назад

    That design would be ideal to put along the length of a ridge on a house

  • @ibme8359
    @ibme8359 Год назад

    As usual U never cease 2 amaze me!!! Great now how BIG can we go with this design? I need some "More Watts"!!!

  • @damontownsend8390
    @damontownsend8390 Год назад +2

    I love this design, I am going to print a few and configure them as "fruit" hanging from a generator tree. I think I may use it to charge some batteries for a streetlight idea. One question, how long of a coil do I need to make?

  • @brianparker4858
    @brianparker4858 10 месяцев назад

    Would love to see an array of these that you could "Add-On" for more power.

  • @theGreaterAwareness
    @theGreaterAwareness Год назад

    About 25 years ago my dad made an omni-directional turbine for pipes. It looks kind of like if the Predator designed a volleyball. Not sure what happened to it. He made his greatest success when he made a special structure that converts the energy of small waves into vertical height so that you can create a gravity feed of sea water into estuaries so that the estuary stays healthy and then the device managed to be used for the same functionality but to create a water turbine from constant waves. It's just a ramp but it has unique angles that amplify the wave into the right compression so that the wave can clear extra height. The Australian and German governments were going to build a lot of them but I guess then the pioneers of the WEF shut it down because it was too simple and effective. Just floating concrete ramps.

  • @captainscarlet6758
    @captainscarlet6758 Год назад +2

    If we are worried about flying animals going into the blades, have we tried putting a mesh over the front and seeing if there is a drop in power? Also how big can we go? Looks good to me. 👍

  • @flemminghovkjrsrensen6523
    @flemminghovkjrsrensen6523 Год назад

    I guess it would be somewhat important to make sure the magnets match up N/N and S/S on each side of the coil, as to not cancel each other out?

    • @brandonmack111
      @brandonmack111 Год назад +2

      Magnetic fields are always between a north pole and a south pole - so the north poles on one side will link up to the south poles on the other and vice versa. That will cause them to move together, and also cause the magnetic field to pass straight through the coil as they rotate, which is what you want.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад

      they line up automatically mate and the field needs to flow from N to S - which it will just do

  • @TomFarrell-p9z
    @TomFarrell-p9z Год назад +1

    Wonder how it would work if the stator is held horizontally?

  • @jamesstoffel6835
    @jamesstoffel6835 Год назад +3

    Great video. Question: What if the back of the 'fins' were open to the other side thus the wind would interact with the back fins?

  • @jerrysanchez5453
    @jerrysanchez5453 Год назад

    Honestly thats a fairly genius design.i really enjoy that

  • @donolliff2630
    @donolliff2630 Год назад +1

    Enjoying your channel and printing the parts now. What is the length and diameter of the serpentine coil?

  • @426F6F
    @426F6F Год назад

    I wonder how much more consistent wind power this design could generate, and also if it would generate more power!

  • @SG-js2qn
    @SG-js2qn Год назад

    It seems like the counter-rotating blades would be great atop a stack of your lateral wind harvesters (Darwin / Ventum), as that would maximize the efficiency of the blades while diminishing their potential harm against wildlife. But I can also visualize a large ball or omnidirectional "blade" above the same stack. I wonder if the omnidirectional blade catching wind from the side, but also being above a stack that is driving wind up, would have benefits? For one, it should operate in lower air speeds due to the stack concentrating air flow. A second benefit is it might also be more stable in higher winds (up to a point). But ... are there hidden problems to be discovered in the implementation?

  • @ebaab9913
    @ebaab9913 Год назад

    Such an interesting result, a horizontal turbine that is a vertical turbine. Did like someone's suggestion to move the generator completely out of the wind flow. But there is another option, move the blades past the edge of the generator.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад

      this is an example of generation at the rim mate if i moved the blades out i would move the generator out too

    • @ebaab9913
      @ebaab9913 Год назад

      @@ThinkingandTinkering I was, like the other comment, thinking about the wind flow. In this instance trying to get some wind coupling where the blades had the largest leverage.

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot Год назад +1

    With the same size and design of the generator part, how does the energy production compare with conventional blades when going against a wide enough wind "surface" to hit the whole thing evenly? (perhaps you could test it by mounting them on the back of a pickup truck, one on each side to get the readings simultaneously symmetrically), and then drive back and forth a few times to get an average and cancel out the effects of crosswind on the conventional blades? Also, does this design produce the same amount of energy with wind coming from all directions, when the wind "surface" is large enough to hit the whole thing?

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад

      wind power is more to do with the area of wind captured not generator size

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 Год назад +1

    Robert, my friend went to India for a vacation. He told me the the people in that country are so wind crazy that you can see vertical wind machines as far as you eye can see spinning in the wind. This has to be one of the most important energy making machine PERIOD !!!! This is a very special unit to save a ton of money for energy used by anyone.
    Well done fella. Peace vf

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад +1

      cheers mate

    • @victoryfirst2878
      @victoryfirst2878 Год назад +1

      Keep up the great work fella. I know a many who use your knowledge to make free energy producing devices. Well done fella too. vf@@ThinkingandTinkering

  • @BigfootGoforth
    @BigfootGoforth Год назад

    Would you be willing to try using round neodymium magnets as external ball bearings on the outer rim of the wind turbine spinning inside of the coil?
    My hypothesis is two fold. Firstly, that the magnets will polarly lock to each other and not roll unless under the correct amount of pressure and friction and then will roll as a tidy locked force. Alternatively spacing them out and allowing them to roll will both increase and interfere with the magnetic field cohesion within the coil. Perhaps ovals that could roll within thus accentuating the potential field motion dynamics. Perhaps being tunable to something akin to grouped vortexes as a sustained vortex wall to the larger field...
    For stabilization of such a field, the inputs would have to be rotationally quantified to the coanda effect, perhaps a few strands of appropriately shaped electromagnets to be stimulated on the individual strand level.

  • @MichaelRada-INDUSTRY50
    @MichaelRada-INDUSTRY50 Год назад +1

    Dear Robert, thank you for your next great video. For the next one, I recommend putting it in front of the measurement device big magnifying screen so the numbers measured are better readable

  • @Pedro8k
    @Pedro8k Год назад

    Execellent video very interesting you remind me of college lecturer i had in the past

  • @chrisbooth5286
    @chrisbooth5286 Год назад

    This guy has always been amazing

  • @MalcolmKLim
    @MalcolmKLim Год назад

    Thank you for all your videos and your ideas. I love watching the videos. I am very interested in making a wind turbine that would generate enough power to run a heater ~ 5KW. Your ideas are great, but how would one go about scaling up the size to put the concept into practice, in an economical way. Thanks.

    • @ThinkingandTinkering
      @ThinkingandTinkering  Год назад

      two ways basically - make them bigger or make more of them and link them up

  • @bluecollarbionics
    @bluecollarbionics Год назад

    @ThinkingandTinkering is there a tutorial on how to wrap the wires for the stator ?

  • @damaddog8065
    @damaddog8065 Год назад

    You know that would work near the ground in high turbulence and low wind velocities. It would cost almost nothing to maintain. It may not have the highest theoretical efficiency, but I bet it can flat out generate any normal wind turbine for the same size over a year, and cost less.

  • @RyanJBarnard
    @RyanJBarnard Год назад +1

    Brilliant, thanks for sharing!

  • @williamhoover1515
    @williamhoover1515 11 месяцев назад

    Great build. Have you considered combining The Darwin collector and having the air stream come in to the edge of a Tesla turbine. Air flow exits the center to capture all the energy with the stacked disks in the laminar flow?

  • @DouglasASean
    @DouglasASean Год назад +1

    That is brilliant my friend, truly impressive

  • @conradnelson5283
    @conradnelson5283 Год назад

    Asked to scale what was the speed of that wind.? the hairdryer blows a lot more forcefully than regular wind naturally. This looks a little too bulky to produce naturally. We need a low speed turbine that can generate wind when it is not blowing. We also need a a solar panels that produces on the sun is covered with clouds.

  • @marcfruchtman9473
    @marcfruchtman9473 Год назад

    This omnidirectional turbine did surprisingly well.

  • @mikeb6389
    @mikeb6389 Год назад

    The two spiral blades wind capture does not work together like the 6 Blade in tandem configuration.

  • @ROGU3L3PHANT
    @ROGU3L3PHANT Год назад

    My understanding is when wind turbines are in high or I guess dangerously high winds they can generate too much energy and have catastrophic failures, I am wondering if regenerative braking technology like what is used in Ev's could be used to slow wind turbines as well as still collect energy all while keeping wind turbines from failing in conditions that can push a wind turbine into a critical state? maybe their are wind turbine companies already thinking about or implementing an idea like this if is possible or even viable.