i imagine adrien srounded by kwamis it would be so funny and cute the boy wont be lonely till fekix stole the miraculous in s5 i think he might be depress
Cat noir wouldn’t give the miraculous to Felix because he is adrien so he knows that Felix couldn’t be him he would know that it’s Felix impersonating him
This is a cool what if. Cat Noir being the Guardian and redeeming Chloe while outsmarting Hawkmoth all at the same time is just awesome. I can't wait for Part 2 of this scenario. Good job.
@@HenryTheGreatx no offense, but the kwamis have shown to hide themselves whenever marinette's parents or friends hang around her room. So, the kwamis could've also hid from Felix, sure, Felix might've figured it out anyways that those were miraculouses, but not straight-up see the kwamis.
I almost choked on water when I saw your video on my fyp, I NEVER IMAGINED EVEN THE THOUGHT OF ADRIEN BECOMING THE NEW GAURDIAN, - I haven’t watched the vid yet
Honestly I would've loved seeing this, imagine if he would be the Guardian and for his love for Marinette, giving her a miraculous (though, she's already ladybug) would start chaos!
If cat noir was the guardian it would have been even more easier for shadow moth ,because 18 miraculouses (except ladybug) would've been on the same roof, then monarch would be still monarch worse with the peacock miraculous so the miracle box is better with ladybug
No ladybug tbh did actually have so many chances ie 1. She could of easily stole the rabbit , dog , fox and turtle miraculous from monarch when he passed out instead was a fool and decided to look at master fu 2. Destruction take the miraculous of the horse then or the dragon miraculous tbh the story would be so much more exciting with her recovering a lot more miraculous
Or better if she recovers not all miraculous at in one episode! Would have been cool if she let's say get one miraculous every 2 episodes! Would make it feel a lot more like they are making progress!
9:01 The heroes had almost no knowledge about Optigami. But the Lucky Charm hinted Marinette towards the fake similar to when she got the box in Heroes Day. 9:18 The only reason Shadowmoth came to Alya was because he noticed Rena Rogue had a better connection to Ladybug compared to the other holders. 14:01 I don't think Adrien would take that gamble. Not only would he need to be transformed, but he'll also need to follow the illusion to keep it up. At that point he might as well had just kept the Horse and teleport back to Paris whenever he had the chance. So he'd definitely take Felix's offer because he's desperate, and is a lot more willing to take risks.
First lucky charm works differently when things go easier.Like a luck boost when things go wrong.They have the opportunity this time and marinette isn't that carefull like in the original cause she isn't the guardian.After style queens lost nathalie cames with an idea to lure ladybug with someone who revealed their identites and choses rena cause she is the first hero after ladybug and cat noir.İn episode risk adrian would take that risk cause plot armour :) Let's say, after you create illusion it can live forever unless someone touches them.Disobeying his father is more risky and he choses this path cause risk's power.But it's just my opinion :)
@@HenryTheGreatx Lucky Charms have always been more situational. They give Ladybug whatever she needs to defeat her enemy or solve a problem even if she's not fully aware of it. It gave her a clock in Ephemeral as a hint on how to fix time and an eraser in Chat Blanc to make sure his timeline never came to be. The nature of the Lucky Charm has always been rather esoteric. Shadowmoth assumed Rena Rogue had a way to contact Ladybug considering she helped give out miraculous during Optigami and even knew the identity of a holder. Without this level of certainty, it's unlikely he would've tried his hostage plan whatsoever. Arguably, having Felix replace him still falls in line with disobeying his father. Risk tampers with one's inhibitions but doesn't make them completely irrational. There's no reason for Adrien to disagree with Felix's plan. Even if you want to argue he wouldn't want to trust Felix, it'd probably be safer if Felix was escorted and watched by someone he did trust rather than leaving him to his own devices especially inside his room. But that's just my opinion.
Yeah maybe but ı wanted to hint snake miraculouses involment cause adrien relays on this specific miraculous so hawki can make a plan and adrian doesn't know juleka that much.
I don't think Cat Noir would threaten Chloe with Cataclysm instead he will take the Bee Miraculous from Chloe permanently and look for another miraculous holder.
I like how you actually create reality with ur plot! The heroes lost all the miraculous, and I don’t believe a lot of ppl would still be with the heroes side, while they failed their job as a hero. And your plot is so intriguing!
Gabriel doesn't know that felix stole all the miraculouses.He thinks someone take them instead of him. Felix consealed his identity and made a public speech.
What I think, is that Chat Noir will try and reason with Chloe as Adrien. She still respected Adrien at that time, and plus by giving her the bee miraculous it actually helped her become a better person.
After style queen's defeat and optigami's presence he wants to lure ladybug.And with nathalie they came a idea involving a hero who revealed their identities.So they choses rena rouge cause she is the first hero ladybug created.
I disagree w the cat noir not loosing miraculous part. In season 2 episode 19 , he got “fired” by style queen and he didn’t have his miraculous so therefore he has also lost a miraculous
This could affect the timeline but it a "what if" so I wont mind. In my theory's: If Catnoir was a Guardian, then he needs to keep the Guardian box protected ESPECIALLY from his father "Gabriel Agreste." Since he always goes to his room to check up on him. Ladybug thought it would be a bad ideal for Catnoir to be the next guardian, since he can't keep focused on his goal instead of his love life. Like always, the kwamis will fly around his room like in "Gang of secrets" Adrien will try to calm them down before they caused a wreaks of things. In the next episode after Gang of secret, Ladybug taught Catnoir how to updated his powers by using the Grimoire book that she given him. So that when he focused on being the destruction heroes. He will use his powers to destory the akuma without Ladybug catching it with her yoyo. (Let just say in Chat Blanc aka the anothe timeline, Catnoir powers doesnt work on the Akuma) Now that Catnoir knows how to deakumazited a akuma without capturing it with the earrings, Catnoir will know how to destory the akuma without Ladybug help. But without the recreational of the Miraculous Ladybug, Paris will still be destroyed or wreaked from the villains. In the next Episode, Adrien learned that loving Ladybug will cause a end of the world if he gets akumazited by getting heartbroken by Ladybug, so he tries to move on from Ladybug as friends and partner (Similar to Glacatier 2 and Determination.) As he finally given up his love for Ladybug, he decided to love someone else. Someone like "Marinette Dupain Cheng" But he realized that Marinette was the person who he second trusted, ever since Marinette was his first friends at Origin Pt 2. In the next episode, Adrien will try to confront Chloe trying to make her change from a bad person to a good person. But Chloe said that being nice is too much for her to handle. So that when he teaches her how to be good. Part 2 coming soon..
They can just give Miraculouses to their classmates but different ones like The snake miraculous to nino and like that they could not know his identity
It's good I think at first in season 4I was like " why didn't master fu at least consider cat noir" but now I guess I'm used to Marinette being the guardian
Really amazing and interesting video but why didn't felix trade the miraculouses for the peacock I didn't understand this part other than that really amazing and interesting and senti bubler wouldn't happen as optigami happened differently and can't wait for the next part I hope its soon
In this timeline he has spellbook and more time to learn about miraculouses.So he doens't give all of them to gabriel.And for the sentibubbler there is only one explanation,gabriel tries to lure ladybug and cat noir and he uses a revealed hero like rena.
2:10 Just in the intro faze, however, I disagree with your introduction and reason TO WHY Adrien is the one chosen to be the Guardian. It narratively MAKES SENSE why Ladybug was chosen to be the Guardian, she was trained for, and Master Fu even told her so, + Adrien met Master Fu only two TIMES ALONE! In Season 2 and in Season 3, once in the Siren episode and once in the party pooper episode or whatever, and those were brief encounters, while Marinette went to Master Fu's place almost every episode since Season 2 up to 3 and was groomed to be the next guardian. For your what if to make sense, you have to either replace Marinette with Adrien being trained to take over, or better yet, have BOTH Ladybug & Cat Noir have weekly session meetings with Master Fu in their Hero forms TOGETHER to better learn how to use the miraculouses and CHOOSE together the holders of the temporary heroes, and THEN, at the end of Season 3, at final battle, have Master Fu choose Adrien after carefully considering which is the better option between Marinette and Adrien. THEN, you can choose Adrien and start the story. Of course, this comment has no directive hate towards the creator or the work itself, just criticism and potential improvements.
but hey instead of that won't Gabriel know why you are so mad towards Marinette go in her place and see now hate me but understand as much as you think Marinette is incompetent Adrien is too naive bro he was like literally locked from the world and if not Felix then behold Gabriel the hawkmoth himself then what if Gabriel finds out end of the world too soon and did you forget cat Blanc so stop your fussiness let it be it is how it is
i imagine adrien srounded by kwamis it would be so funny and cute the boy wont be lonely till fekix stole the miraculous in s5 i think he might be depress
Or I couldn't happen as felix impersonated Adrian but Adrian's guardian snd cat noir so I doubt Adrian will lose the miraculous
Cat noir wouldn’t give the miraculous to Felix because he is adrien so he knows that Felix couldn’t be him he would know that it’s Felix impersonating him
This is a cool what if. Cat Noir being the Guardian and redeeming Chloe while outsmarting Hawkmoth all at the same time is just awesome. I can't wait for Part 2 of this scenario. Good job.
Thank youu :)
I love this plot line, I feel like the writers should be a make a special like this lowkey.
They could focus on the Mr bug and Ladynoir universe instead of Ladynoir getting it they give it to Mr bug and let's see how he handles it.
I honestly don’t think Felix would’ve searched Adrien’s room. He had no suspicion or grudge against Adrien.
After finding emily's corpse he will have lots of time to explore the mansion with his gadget.While doing so he finds kwamis and the miracle box.
@@HenryTheGreatx kkk
@@HenryTheGreatx no offense, but the kwamis have shown to hide themselves whenever marinette's parents or friends hang around her room. So, the kwamis could've also hid from Felix, sure, Felix might've figured it out anyways that those were miraculouses, but not straight-up see the kwamis.
I almost choked on water when I saw your video on my fyp, I NEVER IMAGINED EVEN THE THOUGHT OF ADRIEN BECOMING THE NEW GAURDIAN, - I haven’t watched the vid yet
Honestly I would've loved seeing this, imagine if he would be the Guardian and for his love for Marinette, giving her a miraculous (though, she's already ladybug) would start chaos!
This is gonna be an interesting topic. I did wonder a few times what if he was the guardian instead of mary sue
Mary Sue has a name. Marinette. 😒
@ I’m just calling her what she is
@@Saud_edits2 Fine by you.
@@sparklegirl9291 Marry sue characters are overpowered and their almost always right and that just sums of marrinetee
@Frozengreen757 fr
“There’s no way to lose with the snake unless your Gabriel”💀💀💀
If cat noir was the guardian it would have been even more easier for shadow moth ,because 18 miraculouses (except ladybug) would've been on the same roof, then monarch would be still monarch worse with the peacock miraculous so the miracle box is better with ladybug
I never thought I would ever see a Miraculous what If turns out miracles do happen
More is on the way :)
No ladybug tbh did actually have so many chances ie
1. She could of easily stole the rabbit , dog , fox and turtle miraculous from monarch when he passed out instead was a fool and decided to look at master fu
2. Destruction take the miraculous of the horse then or the dragon miraculous tbh the story would be so much more exciting with her recovering a lot more miraculous
Or better if she recovers not all miraculous at in one episode! Would have been cool if she let's say get one miraculous every 2 episodes! Would make it feel a lot more like they are making progress!
@EVTERVOTE but even at least only the main friends like alya and Nino
Now what if they're both the guardians??
9:01 The heroes had almost no knowledge about Optigami. But the Lucky Charm hinted Marinette towards the fake similar to when she got the box in Heroes Day.
9:18 The only reason Shadowmoth came to Alya was because he noticed Rena Rogue had a better connection to Ladybug compared to the other holders.
14:01 I don't think Adrien would take that gamble. Not only would he need to be transformed, but he'll also need to follow the illusion to keep it up. At that point he might as well had just kept the Horse and teleport back to Paris whenever he had the chance. So he'd definitely take Felix's offer because he's desperate, and is a lot more willing to take risks.
First lucky charm works differently when things go easier.Like a luck boost when things go wrong.They have the opportunity this time and marinette isn't that carefull like in the original cause she isn't the guardian.After style queens lost nathalie cames with an idea to lure ladybug with someone who revealed their identites and choses rena cause she is the first hero after ladybug and cat noir.İn episode risk adrian would take that risk cause plot armour :) Let's say, after you create illusion it can live forever unless someone touches them.Disobeying his father is more risky and he choses this path cause risk's power.But it's just my opinion :)
@@HenryTheGreatx Lucky Charms have always been more situational. They give Ladybug whatever she needs to defeat her enemy or solve a problem even if she's not fully aware of it. It gave her a clock in Ephemeral as a hint on how to fix time and an eraser in Chat Blanc to make sure his timeline never came to be. The nature of the Lucky Charm has always been rather esoteric.
Shadowmoth assumed Rena Rogue had a way to contact Ladybug considering she helped give out miraculous during Optigami and even knew the identity of a holder. Without this level of certainty, it's unlikely he would've tried his hostage plan whatsoever.
Arguably, having Felix replace him still falls in line with disobeying his father. Risk tampers with one's inhibitions but doesn't make them completely irrational. There's no reason for Adrien to disagree with Felix's plan. Even if you want to argue he wouldn't want to trust Felix, it'd probably be safer if Felix was escorted and watched by someone he did trust rather than leaving him to his own devices especially inside his room.
But that's just my opinion.
@@HenryTheGreatx look at Intuition, the lucky charm adapts to the situation based on what Monarch is going to tell Glaciator
Ladybug would be like Huh what master you can't trust him!!!?????
🤣🤣😂😂😂
8:03 Purple Tigress could still be in Crocoduel because Viperion has been shown to fail a few times.
Yeah maybe but ı wanted to hint snake miraculouses involment cause adrien relays on this specific miraculous so hawki can make a plan and adrian doesn't know juleka that much.
@@HenryTheGreatx True
I don't think Cat Noir would threaten Chloe with Cataclysm instead he will take the Bee Miraculous from Chloe permanently and look for another miraculous holder.
Maybe ☺
He might take Zoe Lee { same as ladybug }😊😊
@@SayuriDeogade hell no
I like how you actually create reality with ur plot! The heroes lost all the miraculous, and I don’t believe a lot of ppl would still be with the heroes side, while they failed their job as a hero. And your plot is so intriguing!
Thank youu.I hope you love what if scenarios cause another one is on the way.
Felix is a sentimonster and Gabriel still has peacock miraculous so he can get rid of him
Gabriel doesn't know that felix stole all the miraculouses.He thinks someone take them instead of him. Felix consealed his identity and made a public speech.
Finally we're getting more content from henry 😊
What I think, is that Chat Noir will try and reason with Chloe as Adrien. She still respected Adrien at that time, and plus by giving her the bee miraculous it actually helped her become a better person.
This is a good topic to explore
W this is what i wanted this story is the self embodiment of perfection
I have a question. When are you gonna make part two please just tell me what day don’t make it too long.
2 or 3 weaks cause ı m making another what if video right now.
Chloe deserves a chance to become good and also bevome Queen bee hero in season 6 😢
Good we need more what ifs
I would prefer it if he was chosen as the guardian instead.
Please make part 2 and Felix explain that he would not hurting Adrien because he want his cousin to be free.
Part 2 will be wild :)
Oh my god, I got so invested???
I wish this could've been the show we got 😭😭
Wonderful rewrite 💜
Thank youu 🙃
4:30
Why would he mention his mother here?
7:36
Why would he ever threaten this????
If you give up the miracle box, you lose all of your memories, not only the ones from when you had the miraculous
@ I thought the reason fu lost most of his memories was because most of his life involved the miraculous since he was 10??
Gang Of Secrets Cat Noir’s Identity Will Be Revealed Over Ladybug Revealing Her Secret Identity
Well that's will be EPIC!
I hope you guys enjoy it :)
I love this timeline but the only critique I have is senti bubbler wouldn't happen
After style queen's defeat and optigami's presence he wants to lure ladybug.And with nathalie they came a idea involving a hero who revealed their identities.So they choses rena rouge cause she is the first hero ladybug created.
I disagree w the cat noir not loosing miraculous part.
In season 2 episode 19 , he got “fired” by style queen and he didn’t have his miraculous so therefore he has also lost a miraculous
But only for that episode
Yeah only one time but ladybug lost it a lot of times .
This could affect the timeline but it a "what if" so I wont mind.
In my theory's:
If Catnoir was a Guardian, then he needs to keep the Guardian box protected ESPECIALLY from his father "Gabriel Agreste." Since he always goes to his room to check up on him.
Ladybug thought it would be a bad ideal for Catnoir to be the next guardian, since he can't keep focused on his goal instead of his love life.
Like always, the kwamis will fly around his room like in "Gang of secrets" Adrien will try to calm them down before they caused a wreaks of things.
In the next episode after Gang of secret, Ladybug taught Catnoir how to updated his powers by using the Grimoire book that she given him. So that when he focused on being the destruction heroes. He will use his powers to destory the akuma without Ladybug catching it with her yoyo. (Let just say in Chat Blanc aka the anothe timeline, Catnoir powers doesnt work on the Akuma)
Now that Catnoir knows how to deakumazited a akuma without capturing it with the earrings, Catnoir will know how to destory the akuma without Ladybug help.
But without the recreational of the Miraculous Ladybug, Paris will still be destroyed or wreaked from the villains.
In the next Episode, Adrien learned that loving Ladybug will cause a end of the world if he gets akumazited by getting heartbroken by Ladybug, so he tries to move on from Ladybug as friends and partner (Similar to Glacatier 2 and Determination.) As he finally given up his love for Ladybug, he decided to love someone else.
Someone like "Marinette Dupain Cheng" But he realized that Marinette was the person who he second trusted, ever since Marinette was his first friends at Origin Pt 2.
In the next episode, Adrien will try to confront Chloe trying to make her change from a bad person to a good person. But Chloe said that being nice is too much for her to handle. So that when he teaches her how to be good.
Part 2 coming soon..
I love this plot surely this will be very interesting please upload the next part
They can just give Miraculouses to their classmates but different ones like The snake miraculous to nino and like that they could not know his identity
I think felix will win as he is more smart and clever
The doctor strange reference is tough I ain't gonna lie.
Thankss
Please release part 2 dawg, you got me interested so much
I will,stay tuned for the next episodes.
@HenryTheGreatx Already subscribed, man. Awesome content and worth me subbing to the channel. Keep it up
Thank youuu :)
It's good I think at first in season 4I was like " why didn't master fu at least consider cat noir" but now I guess I'm used to Marinette being the guardian
Waiting for the part 2
I WISH YOU WORKED WITH THW WRITERS FROM THE S3 FINALE, THE SHOW WOULD BE WAY BETTER IF THIS HAPPENED. I REALLY CANT WAIT FOR PART 2 😁🥳
Thank youu so much for the comment ☺
now the ending was a twist
Come on hurry up I want to know what if make one tomorrow or something
how about an universe where Chat Noir & Ladybug are both guardians? cause they could have been the first ones probably.
Yeah tbh I've a lot more interested in that concept
8:18 didn’t Adrien himself lose with it though in Desperada 🤣
Cat Noir Never Lost A Miraculous
Me: Umm Cat Noir Lost His Own Miraculous Back In Style Queen
It Would Have Been Interesting If Cat Noir Was The Guardian Over Ladybug
This is making Ladybug sound like the better Guardian
What if cat noir meet cat blanc instead of ladybug
Will you make more miraculous what if videos
Of course, ı will make a selection tomorrow.And ask your opinions about the rewrite and future projects.
@ thank
an absolute cinema
Thank youuu ☺
How ?
Gabriel Wins If Cat Noir Is Gaurdian
I 7:37 ADRIEN WILL NEVER SAY THAT and i think marinette is a better guardian
It's just a what if scenario.
@@HenryTheGreatx he will never say that unless its claw noir
I'd like the story
it would prefer to have him as guardian
But what if Adrien is the villain hawkmoth not Gabriel?
İnteresting idea,thanks.
7:59 So Nothing Changes In Guilt-rip
Yes
8:15 this got me lol
Hey can you do one if zoe and alya were still scarabella and kitty noir
Lol that won't happen anyways
It's just a what if serie :)
Ooh!
Amazing vidoe still
Really amazing and interesting video but why didn't felix trade the miraculouses for the peacock I didn't understand this part other than that really amazing and interesting and senti bubler wouldn't happen as optigami happened differently and can't wait for the next part I hope its soon
In this timeline he has spellbook and more time to learn about miraculouses.So he doens't give all of them to gabriel.And for the sentibubbler there is only one explanation,gabriel tries to lure ladybug and cat noir and he uses a revealed hero like rena.
So If Cat Noir Was Guardian Gabriel Wins
Are you gonna make? Part 2
Yes
1:33 He Lost His Own Miraculous Back In Style Queen Remember
Will there be more parts of this what if
Yes,there will be part 2.
I hope you make more parts bc the plot is interesting
maybe i got something wrong but how would felix steal them in that szenario when all the miraculouses a still in use to fight the villain?
First he searched the house and at the same time the fight was happening.He finds the miracle box after the fight is over and immideately flee.
she's that Felix was Adrian it wasn't her fault
So Gabriel Wins If Cat Noir Becomes The Guardian
Let's wait for the part 2 :)
My god you hguys realy hate marinette. It was t her fault she is flawed . She is trying
Would you think ladybug will cat noir about cat Blanc, in this scenario? And blind guy will start to open his eyes?
Maybe he will become more serious like catwalker and ladybug will fall for him. And Adrien may start seeing Marinette differently.
Wait but adrien is a senti so gabriel could make adrien give him the box
noooooooooooooo whyyyyyyyyyyy i dont need clifhangersssssssssss whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Nah blud would def lose the box on his first month
thomas austruck ahh reply
At least Marinette actually got some semblance of training. Besides, wouldn't Gabriel and Nathalie be on his ass?
2:10
Just in the intro faze, however, I disagree with your introduction and reason TO WHY Adrien is the one chosen to be the Guardian.
It narratively MAKES SENSE why Ladybug was chosen to be the Guardian, she was trained for, and Master Fu even told her so, + Adrien met Master Fu only two TIMES ALONE! In Season 2 and in Season 3, once in the Siren episode and once in the party pooper episode or whatever, and those were brief encounters, while Marinette went to Master Fu's place almost every episode since Season 2 up to 3 and was groomed to be the next guardian.
For your what if to make sense, you have to either replace Marinette with Adrien being trained to take over, or better yet, have BOTH Ladybug & Cat Noir have weekly session meetings with Master Fu in their Hero forms TOGETHER to better learn how to use the miraculouses and CHOOSE together the holders of the temporary heroes, and THEN, at the end of Season 3, at final battle, have Master Fu choose Adrien after carefully considering which is the better option between Marinette and Adrien. THEN, you can choose Adrien and start the story.
Of course, this comment has no directive hate towards the creator or the work itself, just criticism and potential improvements.
Cat noir did lose a miraculous
Part 2
bro you are doing everything wrong and going in the wrong way
Can't lie what your saying sounds like a ladybug hater 😂
but hey instead of that won't Gabriel know why you are so mad towards Marinette go in her place and see now hate me but understand as much as you think Marinette is incompetent Adrien is too naive bro he was like literally locked from the world and if not Felix then behold Gabriel the hawkmoth himself then what if Gabriel finds out end of the world too soon and did you forget cat Blanc so stop your fussiness let it be it is how it is