Good point. Might be he's also just seeing something with clarity of thought for the first time in his life. I always assumed the madness/corruption kain suffered from nupraptor was tied into his arrogance and brutality. Now that he's been healed it may be a different perspective when facing an opponent
@@DumahsAssassin On top of that you can see and hear regret in his voice as he finally sees the Elder god and asks if this was the nightmare that he condemned Raziel to when he threw him into the abyss which made me respect him even more for feeling bad about what he put Raziel through.
Moebius’ spirit sitting up with a pissed off Raziel behind him still continues to be the funniest thing. Raziel has been waiting for this moment since Soul Reaver 2.
"Your words are heartening... for you would not fear us unless we could truly *do you harm.* " Kain was such a badass, lol. Love this series. So many awesome moments and quotes live on in my memory. Not many game series even come close to the spectacle of Legacy of Kain.
What I've always loved about this line specifically is that Kains use if "us" and "we" Kain is talking about how at that time what the elder god fears isn't just Kain but Kain and Raziel now as one
I suppose it's sort of poetic that the last soul that Raziel devours is Moebius'. Also...Kain says "We" when talking to the Elder God right before the final battle, of course, referring to Raziel. "I am now, as before, your right hand. Your sword.". There is much meaning to what Raziel said.
It ends on a hopeful note, not a despairing one. Kain can make amends and fix past mistakes and perhaps even save Nosgoth once and for all next time round...
With the voice actor for the elder god dead (rest in peace, Tony Jay), and with all the lead writers having moved far away from the franchise, and with basically every entry in the franchise being in some form of legal limbo, and considering that this is not an awful cliffhanger to end on, with it being a very fitting end to Raziel’s story, I think it’s best if the series just gets laid to rest. No, we’ll never know if Kain truly succeeds, and there are some major plot holes left unaddressed, but why risk an inferior follow-up, when this is such a good ending?
I used to think that the LoK games had the juice to be made into a really excellent live action TV show, but after Halo and Witcher and every other Netflix shitshow made by people who openly state they hate the games they're adapting, you're probably right in thinking the whole thing should be left alone. That, and Simon Templeman is in his 70s now, and anybody else playing Kain would be like tits on a fish.
@@Chaoscontrol1992 I’m hoping that if they remastered Defiance, They should add in the four missing fragments of the Balance Emblem which didn’t make it because of time constraints to finally be revealed. I mean I alive to see what Mind, Nature, States, and Death will do if they did make it. But I don’t know how they’ll let the Balance Emblem have enough room for eight since the final version of the original it has enough room for four. And that’s Dimension, Flame(Conflict), Lightning(Energy), And Time while the center of the Balance Emblem is Balance.
I can't tell if Kain teleporting at the end (thus demonstrating that the Elder God's threat to bury him "alive" for eternity was completely empty because he would be able to get away easily) was intended to prove that the threats were empty (and thus that the Elder God was panicking and blustering once its plans were derailed,) or if the writers simply forgot/hoped we would forget that Kain would be able to get out from under the rubble.
At best, I'd assume his teleportation ability is line of sight only. At worst, its just the False God in a panicked and pissed off bluster fueled by rage.
@@kayserliaan the lines are too choppy, she uses inferences that are obvious to the listener. This writing is basic anime anti hero speech. The "you have nothing I want" is a give away. Kain doesn't talk like a gangster, except in this game.
@@Krooksbane but how can it be so, how? If history is immutable. The answer is here in this room. Mobius impelled William and I together but ensured first that were both armed with the soul reaver. Two incarnations of the blade meet in time and space a paradox is born, a temporal distortion powerful enough to derail history.
currently the franchise is in limbo. I'm assuming they're waiting until everyone forgets about the flops before releasing a new one. soul reaver put the series on the map and still has a strong following.
The least i can ask for is for like amy henning to put out a comic book series that’s a sequel. It’s probably the next best thing since half of the legendary cast for this series is gone.
It’s done. It’s been almost two decades, half the voice actors are dead. Appreciate it for what it was. It doesn’t need to be remade, or rebooted, or whatever else folks with no respect for the integrity of originality want.
Knowing what we do at the end about Kain it totally recontextualizes a lot of things. Like Kain turning away when he has Raziel cast into the abyss. When you play SR1 it seems like it’s because he’s both literally and figuratively turning his back on him. The scene where Raziel sacrifices himself almost makes it seem like he just couldn’t watch it happen. It was something he felt he HAD to do but legitimately didn’t want to. Or maybe Kain just changes throughout the series. Who knows?
It's a minor complaint. But they messed up the texture on Kain. Immediately following the fight, they used the texture that still had his scar. In the last scene, they used the correct texture where it was healed.
That's because Hermaous Mora was clearly inspired by EGs design. In Daggerfall and Oblivion, he looks a lot more fat and clawed, and a lot less Tentacled and Eyeballed.
@@luisman369 Did they really give an ending tho ? The Pillars are still destroyed,The Elder God lives and the Hylden are free once again. I wouldnt call that an "ending" to be honest. The end of a "Saga" yes but not "ending".
The only way to make a remake is to rebuild the entire game but keeping the original voice audio. Especially the first soul reaver that has one of the best intros and playable tutorial in video games 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Dont think that will ever happen. Sadly the license is split up. Soul Reaver and Blood Omen are both made by seperate Teams and Studios. And one of those Studios is long gone so getting their license is near impossible. On top of that the Story itself belongs still to the creator which means one more license you need.
@@HansPeter-iv9ck Nope all the the rights of the franchise belongs now to Square Enix since they adquire EIDOS, the only reason still arent moe games because they think a new game dont would sell enough in fact they canceled two games already
@@000mjd To be fair both games were bullcrap.I mean the idea alone turning this into some MOBA game wasnt really bright. And the reimagination also was really bad and people got the DmC feeling. I am pretty sure if they just remaster the old games with modern tech they would sell alot. I mean it was done with Crash Bandicoot and the result was a Crash Bandicoot 4 right after that.
I wonder if with the development of artificial intelligence the voice of Tony Jay would the 'resurrected from beyond the grave. Also the graphics would need to be changed as well as the chunky game play.
When Defiance gets remastered and the missing fragments of the Balance Emblem have been added since they never made it to the original, The Elder God and I will settle this once and for all.😠 Just me and Kain against a false god who’s nothing but a parasitic monster. Which is why God warned me about false gods.
wtf? It's very easy, when i defeat him every part i have to cut the tentacle 2-3 times, taking the first one which is only 2 times, and every time i attack it takes very little life, you only needed 3 chances, with me in minimum is 5 chances attacking.
Note the expression on Kain's face when he sees the Elder God. This is the only time in the entire franchise he has absolutely *no* idea what to do.
Good point. Might be he's also just seeing something with clarity of thought for the first time in his life. I always assumed the madness/corruption kain suffered from nupraptor was tied into his arrogance and brutality. Now that he's been healed it may be a different perspective when facing an opponent
6:41
What would _you_ do if you saw a giant squid?
@@DumahsAssassin On top of that you can see and hear regret in his voice as he finally sees the Elder god and asks if this was the nightmare that he condemned Raziel to when he threw him into the abyss which made me respect him even more for feeling bad about what he put Raziel through.
@@madcat789 RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!
Moebius’ spirit sitting up with a pissed off Raziel behind him still continues to be the funniest thing. Raziel has been waiting for this moment since Soul Reaver 2.
Raziel looks 110% done with Moebius' shit and I love it
It's exactly like that meme with AJ Styles and the Undertaker.
"Your words are heartening... for you would not fear us unless we could truly *do you harm.* "
Kain was such a badass, lol. Love this series. So many awesome moments and quotes live on in my memory. Not many game series even come close to the spectacle of Legacy of Kain.
"FALSE! GOD!"
What I've always loved about this line specifically is that Kains use if "us" and "we" Kain is talking about how at that time what the elder god fears isn't just Kain but Kain and Raziel now as one
@@the-sandman8027"This is the end. The final turn of your wheel."
I suppose it's sort of poetic that the last soul that Raziel devours is Moebius'.
Also...Kain says "We" when talking to the Elder God right before the final battle, of course, referring to Raziel. "I am now, as before, your right hand. Your sword.". There is much meaning to what Raziel said.
One might call it poetic justice
I love how Kain and Raziel were able to have a reconciliation.
"I am now, as before, your right hand...your sword.". Chills
It ends on a hopeful note, not a despairing one. Kain can make amends and fix past mistakes and perhaps even save Nosgoth once and for all next time round...
The most Shakespearean video game series of all time! Just love it.
agreed 👍
"False God!" *hacks away*
Fuggin chills brah brahs
That’s why I will never worship abominations like the Elder God.
With the voice actor for the elder god dead (rest in peace, Tony Jay), and with all the lead writers having moved far away from the franchise, and with basically every entry in the franchise being in some form of legal limbo, and considering that this is not an awful cliffhanger to end on, with it being a very fitting end to Raziel’s story, I think it’s best if the series just gets laid to rest.
No, we’ll never know if Kain truly succeeds, and there are some major plot holes left unaddressed, but why risk an inferior follow-up, when this is such a good ending?
I used to think that the LoK games had the juice to be made into a really excellent live action TV show, but after Halo and Witcher and every other Netflix shitshow made by people who openly state they hate the games they're adapting, you're probably right in thinking the whole thing should be left alone.
That, and Simon Templeman is in his 70s now, and anybody else playing Kain would be like tits on a fish.
The remake of soul reaver 1 and 2 is 2 days away boys and girls if they sell well we can get a defiance remaster and they add more to the story
@@Chaoscontrol1992 I’m hoping that if they remastered Defiance,
They should add in the four missing fragments of the Balance Emblem which didn’t make it because of time constraints to finally be revealed.
I mean I alive to see what Mind, Nature, States, and Death will do if they did make it.
But I don’t know how they’ll let the Balance Emblem have enough room for eight since the final version of the original it has enough room for four.
And that’s Dimension, Flame(Conflict), Lightning(Energy), And Time while the center of the Balance Emblem is Balance.
Kain: The Legacy of Raziel.
Masterpieces of art these games are.
Frollo really let himself go...
Really the best game series ever made.
I can't tell if Kain teleporting at the end (thus demonstrating that the Elder God's threat to bury him "alive" for eternity was completely empty because he would be able to get away easily) was intended to prove that the threats were empty (and thus that the Elder God was panicking and blustering once its plans were derailed,) or if the writers simply forgot/hoped we would forget that Kain would be able to get out from under the rubble.
At best, I'd assume his teleportation ability is line of sight only. At worst, its just the False God in a panicked and pissed off bluster fueled by rage.
Kain smiles, the Hylden get closer to escaping.
I can tell this isn't Ami's writing... BUT! Whoever got the bright idea to have Mobius killed by Kain, then Raziel, then Kain again deserves a raise.
How can you tell? As far as we this last entry was supervised by the great Amy' herself
@@kayserliaan the lines are too choppy, she uses inferences that are obvious to the listener. This writing is basic anime anti hero speech. The "you have nothing I want" is a give away. Kain doesn't talk like a gangster, except in this game.
@@BoyKagomeWhat is an example of her writing?
@@Krooksbane but how can it be so, how? If history is immutable. The answer is here in this room. Mobius impelled William and I together but ensured first that were both armed with the soul reaver. Two incarnations of the blade meet in time and space a paradox is born, a temporal distortion powerful enough to derail history.
FYI- Raziel also told The Elder God to burrow deep in Soul Reaver 2.
currently the franchise is in limbo. I'm assuming they're waiting until everyone forgets about the flops before releasing a new one. soul reaver put the series on the map and still has a strong following.
I can only hope....
"The coin is still turning."
The least i can ask for is for like amy henning to put out a comic book series that’s a sequel. It’s probably the next best thing since half of the legendary cast for this series is gone.
It’s done. It’s been almost two decades, half the voice actors are dead. Appreciate it for what it was. It doesn’t need to be remade, or rebooted, or whatever else folks with no respect for the integrity of originality want.
The voice actor for the elder God and head writer are dead. It's not continuing sadly. The best you can hope for are remakes.
Knowing what we do at the end about Kain it totally recontextualizes a lot of things. Like Kain turning away when he has Raziel cast into the abyss. When you play SR1 it seems like it’s because he’s both literally and figuratively turning his back on him. The scene where Raziel sacrifices himself almost makes it seem like he just couldn’t watch it happen. It was something he felt he HAD to do but legitimately didn’t want to. Or maybe Kain just changes throughout the series. Who knows?
Kain knew he had to cast Raziel into the abyss, but he didn't knew what Raziel would then experience.
It's a minor complaint. But they messed up the texture on Kain. Immediately following the fight, they used the texture that still had his scar.
In the last scene, they used the correct texture where it was healed.
The one series of games I feel deserves a faithful movie adaptation. Cgi rendering of lok to Defiance.
I love how god is so preachy and sassy at the same time
11:52 Those were his last words, and we still continue to savor the taste of hope.
Elder God is better than Hermaeus Mora
That's because Hermaous Mora was clearly inspired by EGs design. In Daggerfall and Oblivion, he looks a lot more fat and clawed, and a lot less Tentacled and Eyeballed.
@@TSotPThey’re both based on H. P. Lovecraft’s monster from his novels.
I could never figure out if this was the actual end of the franchise or if there was suppose to be more to come. Guess I'll never truly find out.
Cybercide Zero There WAS supposed to be more but sadly things happened and the series just stopped
MDKGunner A novel would'a been just fine to...
Cybercide Zero Some novels would've been nice.
To be fair, they at least gave an ending.
@@luisman369
Did they really give an ending tho ?
The Pillars are still destroyed,The Elder God lives and the Hylden are free once again. I wouldnt call that an "ending" to be honest. The end of a "Saga" yes but not "ending".
Man I love Kaine
WE ARE SO BACCKKKK!
Kain's scar vanishing after he was purified was a nice touch.
Truly the most epic series game I have ever played.
The only way to make a remake is to rebuild the entire game but keeping the original voice audio. Especially the first soul reaver that has one of the best intros and playable tutorial in video games 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Maybe one day..this licence will shine again.
Dont think that will ever happen.
Sadly the license is split up. Soul Reaver and Blood Omen are both made by seperate Teams and Studios. And one of those Studios is long gone so getting their license is near impossible. On top of that the Story itself belongs still to the creator which means one more license you need.
@@HansPeter-iv9ck Nope all the the rights of the franchise belongs now to Square Enix since they adquire EIDOS, the only reason still arent moe games because they think a new game dont would sell enough in fact they canceled two games already
@@000mjd
To be fair both games were bullcrap.I mean the idea alone turning this into some MOBA game wasnt really bright. And the reimagination also was really bad and people got the DmC feeling.
I am pretty sure if they just remaster the old games with modern tech they would sell alot. I mean it was done with Crash Bandicoot and the result was a Crash Bandicoot 4 right after that.
@@000mjdNot Anymore.
Embracer Group owns Crystal Dynamics now.
Raziels journey is one of the great arcs in ganing.
now he can work back the links of dependent arising
I wonder if with the development of artificial intelligence the voice of Tony Jay would the 'resurrected from beyond the grave. Also the graphics would need to be changed as well as the chunky game play.
I imagine a LOT of fans of the franchise would not be pleased if a AI was used to recreate Tony Jay's voice i personally would not approve
Well, Tony Jay is not a vampire (that we know), so other candidates would be considered.
@@MDKGunner His child and Marta MacGeraghty who he married until they got divorced in 2004 would not be happy to hear that as well.
@@raphaelpacheco237 Corey Burton will be perfect for the voice of Elder God if there’s a remake by Embracer Group(And Aspyr) and not Square Enix.
I've already heard his voice turned to AI and used in other stuff.
kain would be a good candidate for the king in yellow.
Surprise elder god is the elder god of halo.
Do you mean the Gravemind/Primordial?
It’s funny moebius got stab in the same place twice, in life and death
When Defiance gets remastered and the missing fragments of the Balance Emblem have been added since they never made it to the original,
The Elder God and I will settle this once and for all.😠
Just me and Kain against a false god who’s nothing but a parasitic monster.
Which is why God warned me about false gods.
The ending, the reward not being an achievement or some idiotic dlc- it was just more story.
Sadly this story wasnt finished by my god was it good.
So no more Raziel... 🤔🤔🤔
wtf? It's very easy, when i defeat him every part i have to cut the tentacle 2-3 times, taking the first one which is only 2 times, and every time i attack it takes very little life, you only needed 3 chances, with me in minimum is 5 chances attacking.