@TunesDoneByOne George Martin would not have had so many musicians and layers. It would have been much cleaner from the start, with fewer musicians. But let's not forget that Spector produced a hit album and hit song, so hey, he did his job. George was also a big part of the original mix and was happy with it upon release.
@@continentalgin But thats the whole point what you said about and Spector And Martin...Spectors was completetly different and thats what led to the magic.powerful recrd we grew up on.
I absolutely dis agree. The first version was a muddled mess. you can barely hear George's guitars. the 2000 version was much improved and this (especially in high res) is even better
@@continentalgin well in that one it's much clearer that the original and you can finally hear George's guitar. I thought the original vinyl was just awful. great songs but a horrible mix. 2001 was much better and I tell you if you download a high res version of this new one and play it on a good system you will be floored. it's amazing.The new vinyl is a bit muddled but still better than the original. the CD version is about as good as 2001
After listening to the new mix, I was greatly disappointed in how loud and overly bassy it was. But the greatest irritant was George’s voice being mixed so out front as to sound unnatural. The thing I Love about the original mix is the way his voice fits organically with the music, almost like he’s singing live in the studio.
This morning I've been listening to the 2014 remaster on vinyl. I can't see a single reason why the album needed to to be "redone" again. I'm with you in my belief that the 2014 or the 2000 remasters are excellent. The two versions each present excellent sound while maintaining the integrity of the original release. The attacks on our friend and his wife are completely unfounded and as I stated in my video they deserve much much more respect than some people have afforded them. I'll take what they say over that of someone whose understanding is limited to something they cherry picked from a book.
In the liner notes of the 30th anniversary re-mix - George states that he would like to hear a version without the reverb. Hence - Dhani tried to accomplish this. It doesn’t mean he made a better version but he tried his best. If George was around - maybe he wouldn’t have approved - since he isn’t we have to go by Dhani’s ears and he obviously feels this is something that meets his dads goal. If it was me - I would have included an update of the original in addition to the new less reverb version. Most likely people would have less to stew over this way. BTW - when you remove the reverb - would that not also require a remix to the song? Some people say they don’t like the remix on this new record - but I am guessing they had too do remix in order to remove the reverb properly. Dhani said in Apple Scruffs they didn’t remove the reverb because it sounded like a demo without it.
@@justinpenn9250 The problem is, I guess, that I don't listen with Dhani's ears. Whatever he may have thought he was doing the end result was a mix I'll likely never listen to again.
Freedom of speech and civility are important points. Here tin the states the last 4-5 years has become almost unbearable; I never thought we would take such large steps backwards.
I still like my seventies vinyl copy, and that’s what I’ve stuck with all these years…Interesting though, to hear your take John on all the various versions. Enjoyed the video.
Paul Hicks should never be allowed near a mixing console. Either he has poor hearing or bad judgement in suckling the life out of the masterpiece All Things Must Pass.
After listening to this marvelous album for decades now, I still find my favorite three songs as "Let It Down", "Beware of Darkness" and "Isn't It a Pity", in that order.
Great video. I have the 5 disc set with the Blu-ray which sounds terrific. I do like the remix as it highlights George’s voice. I don’t think it will ever replace the original for me but it is nice o have an alternative to listen to. I do agree that the pricing is excessive in some cases compared to the deluxe sets of John and Paul. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
I think I understand George’s feelings about the Spector production. However, I can’t imagine anyone else presenting this music with greater majesty. It’s a majestic album much in keeping with George’s personality and grace. The 50th is a disappointment to me. I’ll stick with the last version George was involved with. Thank you John
I understand that there may have been serious limitations to what could have been done with a remix as much of the reverb was a part of the recording process, so was baked in. However, I don't think this remix would have satisfied George's desire for more clarity and in that sense I think it's an opportunity lost. I was looking forward to the remix, but it just seemed badly done. The remix has made me somewhat more appreciative of the original.
I liked your balanced review. I personally like the 2000 remaster, it overall to me sounds the best, and it was done with George himself. 2014 edition I believe is closest to the original release, but remastered enough to get rid of some of the original source noise (tape hiss etc) . I really like the packaging of the new 2021 and the demos and outtakes. I am glad they did it and we are able to have the material, but my go to will be the 2000. Thanks for sharing and take care
I think we have complexity here . I bought the 8 LP and like it. If i’d bought it as no it sounded exactly the same and fAithful to the original I would have questioned what is the point. Good they tried to do something different - this was George’s wish - so good on Dhani and Paul Hicks for trying. Could they please everyone - no chance ! Whatever we prefer we all have access to diff versions why don’t we just celebrate all the versions of s wonderful recording. If you do not like a particular version you do not have to have it !
Exactly. Ppl arent talking about the music. Its complaints on money,price,versions,Harrison estate,spectre, wall of sound,muddiness..... it's an album that was probably recorded well,but it had so much going on,it all kinda got baked in,and after 50 yrs theres no going back.so just enjoy the album,put it on,and keep the mouth from moving. It's about the music at the end of the day.we might not see it.but in 20 years there will be folks who say this 50th release had an impact on them. So even if for one person, that's a win. Enjoy music
Enjoyed your video John. I have all the different copies from over the years including this new 50th. I enjoy them all and continue to be grateful for the releases after all these years. Its one of my pleasures awaiting new releases. Take care and enjoy the music.
Another great video. Just finished watching your beatles album ranking from 4 years ago, would love to see an update where you rank the newer remixed albums by Giles Martin in order.
Isn’t it a pity isn’t it a shame a beatiful lyric I do love his music but not remixes you carnt beat the originals thanks John I agree with you remixes kill the soul of the music I have heard the entire songs and then the originals and I’m sticking to my great memories 🙏
Hi John. Thanks again for your commentaries on all things 'Beatles related'. With all that has being going on over the last year or so, we all need a distraction by anything Beatles. That is in essence is what George, Paul, John & Ringo lived by. .... Honesty, peace & understanding....... GAZ (Melbourne/Australia)
I could never get into the original mix of ATMP. So for me the new mix is a brand new introduction to the album. I've been a fan since 1983 and only cares about the hits on ATMP. Now I love the entire listening experience with a clearer more open remix!!
Thanks. I received my 3CD version of ATMP yesterday. It seemed like the best value for checking out the 50th anniversary version. The only other version I own is a US Capitol pressing of the original LPs, so I may keep the 8 LP 50th on my wishlist, hope all the pressing bugs get worked out, and wait for a price drop. It is a shame that they didn't consider including musician credits for individual tracks. The booklet for the 3 CD set is pretty vacuous.
Ill do some more a to b listening. I am comparing this new version which I did download from Qobuz to the 2014 version. We all need to respect each other’s opinions and not bitch at each other though. Peace and love xx
For what it's worth, I find that listening to streaming files of the 50th is the best experience for this new release. Strangely enough. It reminds me that Bobby W. received digital files pre-release and he said those sounded good. I don't know why streaming the 50th would sound better than my 3-CD set, but to my ears it does.
A year on, and I think the new remix is FAR superior to the original. Its hardly even a fair fight. But its good to have both so no need to replace. I wish I had kept my 1987 Beatles CDs!!
Here's the weird thing: Sides 1-4 of ATMP can fit on 1 CD. So Why not put all that, the main album songs, on CD1, and have Apple Jam separate by itself on CD2? Then it's the same amount of CDs but it just makes more sense and the inner sleeves are actually accurate. Then CD3 of outtakes stays the same!
I received my 3 album copy this week. I really have no complaints. I can enjoy my older copy and this one. I think for the price, which gets mentioned a lot and for good reason, they could've added a soft copy of the book. I do find it interesting that after 50 years this album is being discussed as much as it is.
I kinda look at the whole first four sides of the album as very spiritual conceptually, and with the Apple Jams it’s just pure rocking out without words. Almost symbolic of dissolving completely into the what he was singing about. Is that what they had in mind. I doubt it. But I enjoy the Apple Jam so much more with that perspective. But I also 100% respect the opinion that the Apple Jams are bonus tracks
This was a money grab by Universal and blessed by the Harrison estate. Bread and circuses. Give them some stickers and some toy figurines and a poorly researched book... a sad state of affairs.
Maybe the record label should be called 'Flogging a dead horse'! - Tampering with dead artists work is wrong. I wonder what George himself would think? Excellent review as always John - clearly mistakes were made.
I have this set on vinyl. I definitely prefer vinyl vs digital examples. Speaking for me, I find that vinyl much more dynamic than digital. Your mileage might vary, of course. But my ears like the LPs much more.
I think that this has finally decided me not to bother. I am more than happy with the 30th anniversary edition, and having heard the Isn't It a Pity John refers to once, I have no need to hear it again.
I bought the 3 LP set with mostly credit card points and $11 USD cash. I like the sound, though it could have used a tweak here and there. With such a release, it's impossible to please everybody. Then I downloaded the full 5 CD set from one of those websites. The cost of recording this album has already been amortized long ago. You're paying for the cost of remixing and manufacturing the album. The prices being charged are an outrage. We criticize Yoko Ono, but I have to tell you, Olivia and Dhani have surpassed her. The price of a non essential good such as a record is based - besides the cost of production - on PERCEIVED VALUE. I'm very sure if PETE BEST or RINGO STARR tried to pull off such a stunt, there would be boxcars and warehouses bursting with unsold product. If I hadn't had those credit card points to pay for most of the album, I wouldn't have bought it at all. BTW - The next GH Estate release, I can bet you will be the MONO VINYL OF WONDERWALL MUSIC. But we'll have to wait another 10 years at least. It will surely be a box set as well. The only people I know that have bought that UBER $999- box set are You Tubers who post videos on Beatles material.
The Uber concept and price has to be a Monty Python joke. It's a bit humorous to see that those who blew a grand on it are the most staunch defenders of the remixes. Fancy that. I can understand if the purchaser leaves it untouched and puts it on Discogs ten years from now as 'still sealed' for $1500, but who in their right mind would go for it?
@@continentalgin Blame Gene Simmons for this. He sold a $2000 "Vault" containing 50 years (166 songs over 11 CDs) of rejected tracks and demos from 1966 to 2016. There were other consolation trinkets and you got to meet him in person has he handed you the Vault and signed anything you brought in. I think it was a rip off, but when you take into account The George Harrison's Estate "Uber" package, that one takes the Grand Prize for Chutzpah.
@@manolokonosko2868 Wow, I didn't know about that Gene Simmons thing. But even if the remixes were any good, a grand for the Uber is still a Monty Python joke price, although a lot of people fell for it.
Totally agree, John! Their JAMS, not songs. Try and sell em on separate cds. 😆 they'll end up in the cutout bins, but they are better then anything on Zapple. Lol 😅As far as the Blooper box set. $1000.00? I'd rather spend it on George's solo sets as a whole, or The Beatles collective works! You don't even get the original lps (mix) in the set. Nice review, John. 😉 No way George puts that price tag on it. No way. 😔
I think Wah-Wah take 1 is pretty much what it would sound like without wall of sound, minus the finished vocals and horns. You're right, the blu-ray doesn't make much sense as an investment if you don't have the equipment for surround. That begin said, unless my memory is playing tricks on me, the recent Lennon sets started at the same price point. I think the remix has come in for some excessive, unfair criticism. But to illustrate how subjectively we all hear music, I would never have thought to mention the bass drum on Isn't it a Pity 1, whereas it might be a crucial moment for someone else, so mileage will clearly vary depending on what favorite moments and sounds. Overall, the remix may not replace the original for me in the longer term but I am enjoying it on its own merits.
I have the 3 CD 50th release. (I have the original My Sweet Lord/Isn’t It A Pity single) The clarity of instruments are nice. Good full sound. It’s a change from the original 71 release. This builds on the 2000 Harrison remix.
The remix sounds fantastic Have never been a fan of Spectors Wall of Sound when in Stereo. His early 60’s Mono work was revolutionary But this new Remix is fresh and alive
This is Stirling work Mr Heaton, you're a gentleman and a youtube legend. Id be interested to hear what Dhani thinks of the reaction. If he has five minutes id like to know where Early Takes Volume 2 is... Can someone with the new All Things vinyl let me know if it's on the orange apple? My copy is still shrinkwrapped and will stay that way while I hammer the 2001 cd and the 2021 out takes discs. Have a good weekend. 👍
Regarding George’s vocals have to remember that when we’re listening to demos and run-throughs sometimes it takes a number of takes to get the vocal up to where it supposed to be, and that’s why the vocal might not of been used for the final take. I sometimes have a hard time distinguishing between Clapton and George because I think they hung around so much that George became a better guitar player and adapted some of Clapton‘s techniques?
The reissue of all things must pass..the first release is the best..this extra cut release is a little too late for the people who bought this in 70 or 71 like I did...the cd release was ok ...but the original is the one to own..most folks who have reviewed the 50th release....pricey.... Muddy and no new revelations..
My favorite version of ATMP is still my original LP copy. I wasn't going to buy the deluxe set because of the cost, but managed to grab the HiRes downloads for half the price of the CDs. The best thing about the new set is the demos and outtakes, I like some of the remixes on the album, but there are some mix choices that really bug me. As you said, some instruments are buried, and then things like a tambourine or acoustic rhythm guitar are boosted and it sounds weird. Where is the harmonica on "If Not for You?"
Referencing 10:08 it is a testament to people's passion for music and for ALL the musicians that participated in the original recording that it can STILL generate controversy 50 years down the line, because it was controversial at the time, for the religious nature and also because it was the first major release of a fully produced (as opposed to self produced) album from a Beatle. This is cool! It's not a bad thing at all to be arguing about music, my friends and I do it all the time. I think it is a different era, tech has changed so a new version will come out as long as people are interested. It's all good!
Could definitely do without the Apple Jam. For me the album ends with hear me lord. And the new 2021 mix was probably done because A) the 50th anniversary of course. B) George did actually want to remix the whole thing but for one reason or another didn't. I love the new voices and bass on Art Of Dying but George's swirling electric guitar isn't out enough, it's been hidden a bit. It's mostly hit and a few misses with this 2021 mix. But what the 2021 can't compete with is the smoothness of the musical mix with the 1970 mix
I like Apple Jam! Without the 3rd vinyl disk, ATMP would have been such a melancholic and, at best, whimsical album. Apple Jam were the rock 'n' roll sides.
@@JohnnyAlegre I don't know about "whimsical," but certainly ATMP is one of the greatest albums of all time. Out of the Blue is fantastic and I love the Apple Jam label. Beautiful artwork if you ask me.
@gringo557 ** I agree 100% about Apple Jam. That, and the bonus disks made my ATMP50 expense worthwhile. Regarding the "whimsical" mood of sides 1-4, there's nothing wrong with that -- the vibe fits right in with the gnomes and Sir Frankie Crisp and the castle that's Friar Park -- but rock 'n' roll, they barely are -- so the Apple Jam sides were great for the edge they provided.
Excellent, succinct review. I'm a CD guy. Bought the 3CD version because the 5 CD set was outrageously priced. And I happen to love it. Except for the little booklet. Kind of useless. The original release I found was always a little tough to listen to because of the Spector sound. The 30th anniversary (colorized) version was a huge improvement sonically. Never heard that 2014 remaster you discussed but this latest remix sounds marvelous. No complaints.
There's no way to get rid of the Wall of Sound on this album, even if that were desirable, because it partly comes from the way the songs were recorded- a large ensemble of people playing in a room, including people duplicating parts.
Thanks for the review John. I found it enticing. George' Harrison and the carious critics, both professional and many who think they are professional, have had all this time to reflect on the original release, and all the subsequent remasters, and or remix's for decades now. What we have, the 1970 release, should be what we get. The Wall of Sound complaints are what they are. To me, a prime example of just being blasted out of the room with WOS is the Leonard Cohen "Death Of A Ladies Man" album. Which to me can feel quite overpowering at times. But, I digress... Depending on my mood the WOS for ATMP can get a little annoying and bombastic, especially if I am playing it loud. However, I am someone who enjoys 30th anniversary remaster. Who knows??? Maybe there should be a "All Things Must Pass...Stripped Naked" one day.
Hello John, Do you plan to make one day a review of "Run Devil Run" and "Driving Rain" to complete your McCartney reviews ? Thanks for your videos, much appreciated.
The full 2 lp version of ATMP can fit onto one of the cd's so they should have had the album on one cd and the apple jam all alone on the second disc. Would have been a better listening experience.
The apple jam is great as much as it is a historical document. Alan Lomax (The famed musicologist), had he lived to this time might have been pleased as I do.
Thanks for your review. I'm a bit more positive about it than you - but, as you say, we are all entitled to our own opinions! A couple of specific comments. I've never enjoyed Wah Wah despite it often being listed among people's favourite tracks. In contrast, I find the Apple Jam to be a bit of fun and well worth a listen - which is again contrary to most people's views. I wonder if George would have been happy with this 50th anniversary edition. I suspect he may have liked how his vocals are brought forward in the mix.
I was disappointed with the quality control of dish warps on 3 out of 8 vinyl lps plus the high end detail is veiled covered with boomy bass and muffled muddy audio. It's the worst sounding ATMP ever released. I'm sticking with my original German vinyl and the 2017 remaster and saving myself $250.
Listen to the usa 2nd press I found sounds muddy muffled the very 1st press sounds alot crisp and better tone first press has made in the usa circle on the inside cover
I have the 2001 2014 and I’ve heard enough of the 2021 remix to say the 2014 CD release is my favorite. The sound is clearer than the 30th with better clarity. It is not as ear piercingly loud as the new remix and also maintains the original mix. The 2014 CD release is my favorite digital version of this album. There was a 2010 HD digital download version that is supposed to the best sounding release of this album but it is no longer available, it is sort of the holy grail for this album. Too bad.
@@allthingsclassicrock thank you, I appreciate your comments. I will go for the 2014 edition, and will also purchase the 2021 release for the bonus material.
Another great a very honest video John & for me personally i don't like this new remix at all & certain merits yes but on the whole it isn't a patch on the 30th anniversary remaster.... In my own opinion his most famous song My Sweet Lord suffers the most as it sounds like it was recorded down a drain & is just so flat presented here & as for George's vocals they warble all over the place! Some of the outtakes are very nice but as for value for money this is a terrible buy! I'm just hoping the Beatles Let It Be/Get Back forthcoming package is much much better!!!!
Want to say, I don't have the 50th edition. I have it twice already, no need to buy it again. I was listening to "Living In The Material World" the other day and think the songs on it are just as good as "ATMP." Let's just say that "Living In The Material World" came out first and it had the "ATMP" production (with Spector producing) and "ATMP" came out second and had the "Living In The Material World" production (with Harrison producing). Would we be talking about "Living In The Material World" as the big album with all the remixes and "ATMP" as a really good album?
Overall, yeah it was a bit of a miss. The drums sound great, I will admit, and thankfully a bit of unnecessary echo was reduced. Run of the Mill and My Sweet Lord sounds really great remixed, and I did like some of the outtakes (especially the Hear Me Lord you’ve mentioned). But George’s voice being up in the mix was a bit unsettling to me. It felt like he was too loud to the point it felt like he was narrating and not singing as part of the song
I first heard this album in the 90s before it was remastered and it sounded fine. Have to say, I think the lyrics to Wah Wah are nonsense from start to finish.
Unfortunately the songs that suffered the most from Spector's bombastic ruination still sound bad ( Wah Wah, Let It Down, Awaiting on You All and the dreadful horns on the Title track ). Guess some of his nonsense was un-removable. The out takes and basic tracks are fantastic, however. The Day 1 tracks are particularly wonderful, with just Ringo and Klaus . Thanks for another great video, John.
I agree John, very frustrating that alot of people weren't interviewed for this release.
John I don’t think it’s an issue with your setup. They got it right with the original back in 1970. We’ve had the perfect version for a long time.
@TunesDoneByOne George Martin would not have had so many musicians and layers. It would have been much cleaner from the start, with fewer musicians. But let's not forget that Spector produced a hit album and hit song, so hey, he did his job. George was also a big part of the original mix and was happy with it upon release.
@@continentalgin But thats the whole point what you said about and Spector And Martin...Spectors was completetly different and thats what led to the magic.powerful recrd we grew up on.
I absolutely dis agree. The first version was a muddled mess. you can barely hear George's guitars. the 2000 version was much improved and this (especially in high res) is even better
@@victorarena23 I like the 2000 version a lot!
@@continentalgin well in that one it's much clearer that the original and you can finally hear George's guitar. I thought the original vinyl was just awful. great songs but a horrible mix. 2001 was much better and I tell you if you download a high res version of this new one and play it on a good system you will be floored. it's amazing.The new vinyl is a bit muddled but still better than the original. the CD version is about as good as 2001
After listening to the new mix, I was greatly disappointed in how loud and overly bassy it was. But the greatest irritant was George’s voice being mixed so out front as to sound unnatural. The thing I Love about the original mix is the way his voice fits organically with the music, almost like he’s singing live in the studio.
The bass sound completely loses it for me, I might be annoyed by other aspects of the mix, but I just can't get past the bass.
the original mix is awful- 2000 is better
This morning I've been listening to the 2014 remaster on vinyl. I can't see a single reason why the album needed to to be "redone" again. I'm with you in my belief that the 2014 or the 2000 remasters are excellent. The two versions each present excellent sound while maintaining the integrity of the original release. The attacks on our friend and his wife are completely unfounded and as I stated in my video they deserve much much more respect than some people have afforded them. I'll take what they say over that of someone whose understanding is limited to something they cherry picked from a book.
In the liner notes of the 30th anniversary re-mix - George states that he would like to hear a version without the reverb. Hence - Dhani tried to accomplish this. It doesn’t mean he made a better version but he tried his best. If George was around - maybe he wouldn’t have approved - since he isn’t we have to go by Dhani’s ears and he obviously feels this is something that meets his dads goal.
If it was me - I would have included an update of the original in addition to the new less reverb version. Most likely people would have less to stew over this way.
BTW - when you remove the reverb - would that not also require a remix to the song? Some people say they don’t like the remix on this new record - but I am guessing they had too do remix in order to remove the reverb properly. Dhani said in Apple Scruffs they didn’t remove the reverb because it sounded like a demo without it.
@@justinpenn9250 The problem is, I guess, that I don't listen with Dhani's ears. Whatever he may have thought he was doing the end result was a mix I'll likely never listen to again.
I always look forward to your take on such matters, thanks John.
Hi John. Love the reviews. Please turn up your volume. Thanks!
Freedom of speech and civility are important points. Here tin the states the last 4-5 years has become almost unbearable; I never thought we would take such large steps backwards.
I still like my seventies vinyl copy, and that’s what I’ve stuck with all these years…Interesting though, to hear your take John on all the various versions. Enjoyed the video.
Paul Hicks should never be allowed near a mixing console. Either he has poor hearing or bad judgement in suckling the life out of the masterpiece All Things Must Pass.
After listening to this marvelous album for decades now, I still find my favorite three songs as "Let It Down", "Beware of Darkness" and "Isn't It a Pity", in that order.
Great video. I have the 5 disc set with the Blu-ray which sounds terrific. I do like the remix as it highlights George’s voice. I don’t think it will ever replace the original for me but it is nice o have an alternative to listen to. I do agree that the pricing is excessive in some cases compared to the deluxe sets of John and Paul. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
As informative and illuminating as ever John - keep up the good work.
I listened to the Apple Jam once when I bought the original vinyl album back in 1971. I haven’t listened to it since then.
listen to out the blue
@@roywatson8133I’ll have to give it a second listen.
I'm thrilled how many people love George and his music. With love from Russia.
I think I understand George’s feelings about the Spector production. However, I can’t imagine anyone else presenting this music with greater majesty. It’s a majestic album much in keeping with George’s personality and grace. The 50th is a disappointment to me. I’ll stick with the last version George was involved with. Thank you John
I understand that there may have been serious limitations to what could have been done with a remix as much of the reverb was a part of the recording process, so was baked in. However, I don't think this remix would have satisfied George's desire for more clarity and in that sense I think it's an opportunity lost. I was looking forward to the remix, but it just seemed badly done.
The remix has made me somewhat more appreciative of the original.
I liked your balanced review. I personally like the 2000 remaster, it overall to me sounds the best, and it was done with George himself. 2014 edition I believe is closest to the original release, but remastered enough to get rid of some of the original source noise (tape hiss etc) . I really like the packaging of the new 2021 and the demos and outtakes. I am glad they did it and we are able to have the material, but my go to will be the 2000. Thanks for sharing and take care
I Thinks I'll Pass
Lol... Oh if John or George were alive today...
I think we have complexity here . I bought the 8 LP and like it. If i’d bought it as no it sounded exactly the same and fAithful to the original I would have questioned what is the point. Good they tried to do something different - this was George’s wish - so good on Dhani and Paul Hicks for trying. Could they please everyone - no chance ! Whatever we prefer we all have access to diff versions why don’t we just celebrate all the versions of s wonderful recording. If you do not like a particular version you do not have to have it !
Exactly. Ppl arent talking about the music. Its complaints on money,price,versions,Harrison estate,spectre, wall of sound,muddiness..... it's an album that was probably recorded well,but it had so much going on,it all kinda got baked in,and after 50 yrs theres no going back.so just enjoy the album,put it on,and keep the mouth from moving. It's about the music at the end of the day.we might not see it.but in 20 years there will be folks who say this 50th release had an impact on them. So even if for one person, that's a win. Enjoy music
Enjoyed your video John. I have all the different copies from over the years including this new 50th. I enjoy them all and continue to be grateful for the releases after all these years. Its one of my pleasures awaiting new releases. Take care and enjoy the music.
Another great video. Just finished watching your beatles album ranking from 4 years ago, would love to see an update where you rank the newer remixed albums by Giles Martin in order.
Isn’t it a pity isn’t it a shame a beatiful lyric I do love his music but not remixes you carnt beat the originals thanks John I agree with you remixes kill the soul of the music I have heard the entire songs and then the originals and I’m sticking to my great memories 🙏
I LOVE the Wall of Sound production in the original. There, I said it.
i thought the idea of the 2020 mix was to bring out the instruments that phil specters production had buried unfortunately you hear less to my hears
Hi John in the future ..... could you please turn your audio out put up :D it hard to hear You or you mic input up ...... Many Thanks
Great review John, good points.
I got the cd's and they sound fresh and new and I love it. Also love the out takes.
Hi John. Thanks again for your commentaries on all things 'Beatles related'. With all that has being going on over the last year or so, we all need a distraction by anything Beatles. That is in essence is what George, Paul, John & Ringo lived by. .... Honesty, peace & understanding....... GAZ (Melbourne/Australia)
Hi John,
The 2001...2010...2014 and I think 2017 are not remixes. They are remasters,
This was the first remix.
I say anybody who was foolish enough to buy at least 4 versions of this album deserves their buyers remorse.
Good review!
Fair assessment, I agree with your comments!
Good thing no one mentioned Bobby Whitlock in any of your comments. It seems that the powers that be are having those removed from RUclips....
I could never get into the original mix of ATMP. So for me the new mix is a brand new introduction to the album. I've been a fan since 1983 and only cares about the hits on ATMP. Now I love the entire listening experience with a clearer more open remix!!
pfffft!
I agree I love the new mix.
Thanks. I received my 3CD version of ATMP yesterday. It seemed like the best value for checking out the 50th anniversary version. The only other version I own is a US Capitol pressing of the original LPs, so I may keep the 8 LP 50th on my wishlist, hope all the pressing bugs get worked out, and wait for a price drop. It is a shame that they didn't consider including musician credits for individual tracks. The booklet for the 3 CD set is pretty vacuous.
No one can destroy a MASTERPIECE
Ill do some more a to b listening. I am comparing this new version which I did download from Qobuz to the 2014 version. We all need to respect each other’s opinions and not bitch at each other though. Peace and love xx
For what it's worth, I find that listening to streaming files of the 50th is the best experience for this new release. Strangely enough. It reminds me that Bobby W. received digital files pre-release and he said those sounded good. I don't know why streaming the 50th would sound better than my 3-CD set, but to my ears it does.
A year on, and I think the new remix is FAR superior to the original. Its hardly even a fair fight. But its good to have both so no need to replace. I wish I had kept my 1987 Beatles CDs!!
I have the 2000 2001 version that George worked on it sounds great to my ears.
HI JOHN, THANKS FOR SHARING. THE 2001 30TH ANNIVERSARY VERSION IS A REMASTER NOT A REMIX
Spot on with every point
Here's the weird thing: Sides 1-4 of ATMP can fit on 1 CD. So Why not put all that, the main album songs, on CD1, and have Apple Jam separate by itself on CD2? Then it's the same amount of CDs but it just makes more sense and the inner sleeves are actually accurate. Then CD3 of outtakes stays the same!
Nice balanced review, John. I asked our local library to buy the 5-CD set, and I'll look forward to getting it that way. Thanks very much.
I received my 3 album copy this week. I really have no complaints. I can enjoy my older copy and this one. I think for the price, which gets mentioned a lot and for good reason, they could've added a soft copy of the book. I do find it interesting that after 50 years this album is being discussed as much as it is.
Flogging a Dark Horse.
I kinda look at the whole first four sides of the album as very spiritual conceptually, and with the Apple Jams it’s just pure rocking out without words. Almost symbolic of dissolving completely into the what he was singing about. Is that what they had in mind. I doubt it. But I enjoy the Apple Jam so much more with that perspective. But I also 100% respect the opinion that the Apple Jams are bonus tracks
very well said!
This was a money grab by Universal and blessed by the Harrison estate. Bread and circuses. Give them some stickers and some toy figurines and a poorly researched book... a sad state of affairs.
reissues in my opinion is a device to make money for record compnies and i feel one should be satisfied with the original release
You're correct in some cases but you aren't right as a blanket statement for all
@@craigwarner6156 opinion from a person who is poor
Maybe the record label should be called 'Flogging a dead horse'! - Tampering with dead artists work is wrong. I wonder what George himself would think? Excellent review as always John - clearly mistakes were made.
I have this set on vinyl. I definitely prefer vinyl vs digital examples. Speaking for me, I find that vinyl much more dynamic than digital.
Your mileage might vary, of course. But my ears like the LPs much more.
I think that this has finally decided me not to bother. I am more than happy with the 30th anniversary edition, and having heard the Isn't It a Pity John refers to once, I have no need to hear it again.
I bought the 3 cd version also and purchased the basis 3 record LP. The rest I picked up on Apple music.
I bought the 3 LP set with mostly credit card points and $11 USD cash. I like the sound, though it could have used a tweak here and there. With such a release, it's impossible to please everybody. Then I downloaded the full 5 CD set from one of those websites. The cost of recording this album has already been amortized long ago. You're paying for the cost of remixing and manufacturing the album. The prices being charged are an outrage. We criticize Yoko Ono, but I have to tell you, Olivia and Dhani have surpassed her. The price of a non essential good such as a record is based - besides the cost of production - on PERCEIVED VALUE. I'm very sure if PETE BEST or RINGO STARR tried to pull off such a stunt, there would be boxcars and warehouses bursting with unsold product. If I hadn't had those credit card points to pay for most of the album, I wouldn't have bought it at all. BTW - The next GH Estate release, I can bet you will be the MONO VINYL OF WONDERWALL MUSIC. But we'll have to wait another 10 years at least. It will surely be a box set as well. The only people I know that have bought that UBER $999- box set are You Tubers who post videos on Beatles material.
The Uber concept and price has to be a Monty Python joke. It's a bit humorous to see that those who blew a grand on it are the most staunch defenders of the remixes. Fancy that. I can understand if the purchaser leaves it untouched and puts it on Discogs ten years from now as 'still sealed' for $1500, but who in their right mind would go for it?
@@continentalgin Blame Gene Simmons for this. He sold a $2000 "Vault" containing 50 years (166 songs over 11 CDs) of rejected tracks and demos from 1966 to 2016. There were other consolation trinkets and you got to meet him in person has he handed you the Vault and signed anything you brought in. I think it was a rip off, but when you take into account The George Harrison's Estate "Uber" package, that one takes the Grand Prize for Chutzpah.
@@manolokonosko2868 Wow, I didn't know about that Gene Simmons thing. But even if the remixes were any good, a grand for the Uber is still a Monty Python joke price, although a lot of people fell for it.
The new mix is much clearer. It’s a thumbs up from me and there’s always the original to refer back and the 2001 remaster.
Totally agree, John! Their JAMS, not songs. Try and sell em on separate cds. 😆 they'll end up in the cutout bins, but they are better then anything on Zapple. Lol 😅As far as the Blooper box set. $1000.00? I'd rather spend it on George's solo sets as a whole, or The Beatles collective works! You don't even get the original lps (mix) in the set. Nice review, John. 😉 No way George puts that price tag on it. No way. 😔
I think Wah-Wah take 1 is pretty much what it would sound like without wall of sound, minus the finished vocals and horns. You're right, the blu-ray doesn't make much sense as an investment if you don't have the equipment for surround. That begin said, unless my memory is playing tricks on me, the recent Lennon sets started at the same price point.
I think the remix has come in for some excessive, unfair criticism. But to illustrate how subjectively we all hear music, I would never have thought to mention the bass drum on Isn't it a Pity 1, whereas it might be a crucial moment for someone else, so mileage will clearly vary depending on what favorite moments and sounds. Overall, the remix may not replace the original for me in the longer term but I am enjoying it on its own merits.
You do get a high res stereo mix which will sound even better than the CDs. So that is one thing the Blu-ray has in its favor.
I will not purchase this "money grab". I have the original and that is all I need.
I have the 3 CD 50th release. (I have the original My Sweet Lord/Isn’t It A Pity single) The clarity of instruments are nice. Good full sound. It’s a change from the original 71 release. This builds on the 2000 Harrison remix.
2000 was just a remaster. A very bright, loud remaster.
Have you noticed that the lyrics poster is missing the verse about the Pope on Awaiting on you all. Failed the proof read lol!
If I'm not mistaken my original did not have the lyrics about the pope. I hand wrote it in.
I have the original poster; no Pope verse. George must have slipped it in as a sly joke.
The remix sounds fantastic
Have never been a fan of Spectors Wall of Sound when in Stereo.
His early 60’s Mono work was revolutionary
But this new Remix is fresh and alive
This is Stirling work Mr Heaton, you're a gentleman and a youtube legend. Id be interested to hear what Dhani thinks of the reaction. If he has five minutes id like to know where Early Takes Volume 2 is...
Can someone with the new All Things vinyl let me know if it's on the orange apple? My copy is still shrinkwrapped and will stay that way while I hammer the 2001 cd and the 2021 out takes discs.
Have a good weekend. 👍
Regarding George’s vocals have to remember that when we’re listening to demos and run-throughs sometimes it takes a number of takes to get the vocal up to where it supposed to be, and that’s why the vocal might not of been used for the final take. I sometimes have a hard time distinguishing between Clapton and George because I think they hung around so much that George became a better guitar player and adapted some of Clapton‘s techniques?
The reissue of all things must pass..the first release is the best..this extra cut release is a little too late for the people who bought this in 70 or 71 like I did...the cd release was ok ...but the original is the one to own..most folks who have reviewed the 50th release....pricey....
Muddy and no new revelations..
My favorite version of ATMP is still my original LP copy. I wasn't going to buy the deluxe set because of the cost, but managed to grab the HiRes downloads for half the price of the CDs. The best thing about the new set is the demos and outtakes, I like some of the remixes on the album, but there are some mix choices that really bug me. As you said, some instruments are buried, and then things like a tambourine or acoustic rhythm guitar are boosted and it sounds weird. Where is the harmonica on "If Not for You?"
I agree about the research.no excuse
Yeah, what they've done with the Apple Jam jars...
It confused me yesterday.
Referencing 10:08 it is a testament to people's passion for music and for ALL the musicians that participated in the original recording that it can STILL generate controversy 50 years down the line, because it was controversial at the time, for the religious nature and also because it was the first major release of a fully produced (as opposed to self produced) album from a Beatle. This is cool! It's not a bad thing at all to be arguing about music, my friends and I do it all the time.
I think it is a different era, tech has changed so a new version will come out as long as people are interested. It's all good!
Got original chunky box and.30th.and apple years.version.now got 2cd remix..that's enough .thanks for your honest words....
Could definitely do without the Apple Jam. For me the album ends with hear me lord. And the new 2021 mix was probably done because A) the 50th anniversary of course. B) George did actually want to remix the whole thing but for one reason or another didn't. I love the new voices and bass on Art Of Dying but George's swirling electric guitar isn't out enough, it's been hidden a bit. It's mostly hit and a few misses with this 2021 mix. But what the 2021 can't compete with is the smoothness of the musical mix with the 1970 mix
Out of the Blue is fantastic, are you kidding? :)
I like Apple Jam! Without the 3rd vinyl disk, ATMP would have been such a melancholic and, at best, whimsical album. Apple Jam were the rock 'n' roll sides.
@@JohnnyAlegre I don't know about "whimsical," but certainly ATMP is one of the greatest albums of all time. Out of the Blue is fantastic and I love the Apple Jam label. Beautiful artwork if you ask me.
@gringo557 ** I agree 100% about Apple Jam. That, and the bonus disks made my ATMP50 expense worthwhile. Regarding the "whimsical" mood of sides 1-4, there's nothing wrong with that -- the vibe fits right in with the gnomes and Sir Frankie Crisp and the castle that's Friar Park -- but rock 'n' roll, they barely are -- so the Apple Jam sides were great for the edge they provided.
Finally got box set....
Excellent, succinct review. I'm a CD guy. Bought the 3CD version because the 5 CD set was outrageously priced. And I happen to love it. Except for the little booklet. Kind of useless. The original release I found was always a little tough to listen to because of the Spector sound. The 30th anniversary (colorized) version was a huge improvement sonically. Never heard that 2014 remaster you discussed but this latest remix sounds marvelous. No complaints.
Yeah I enjoy the 30th anniversary George oversaw. That’s my go to. That was the last one he had his hands in. That’s good enough for me
The Apple Jam... as far as I'm concerned, is some of the earliest mainstream Prog rock... "Out of the Blue" sounds like Pink Floyd before Pink Floyd.
Love this thought. Out of the Blue is on overlooked gem!
The Final Verdict (For The Moment)
Like you i bought the 3 cd set. The pricing difference was rediculous. How they come up with that is beyond me. But i like the remix.
There's no way to get rid of the Wall of Sound on this album, even if that were desirable, because it partly comes from the way the songs were recorded- a large ensemble of people playing in a room, including people duplicating parts.
I’ve been looking at the Amazon reviews. They say too expensive and not as good as earlier issues
Thanks for the review John. I found it enticing. George' Harrison and the carious critics, both professional and many who think they are professional, have had all this time to reflect on the original release, and all the subsequent remasters, and or remix's for decades now. What we have, the 1970 release, should be what we get. The Wall of Sound complaints are what they are. To me, a prime example of just being blasted out of the room with WOS is the Leonard Cohen "Death Of A Ladies Man" album. Which to me can feel quite overpowering at times. But, I digress... Depending on my mood the WOS for ATMP can get a little annoying and bombastic, especially if I am playing it loud. However, I am someone who enjoys 30th anniversary remaster. Who knows??? Maybe there should be a "All Things Must Pass...Stripped Naked" one day.
The Jams are the great.
Hello John,
Do you plan to make one day a review of "Run Devil Run" and "Driving Rain" to complete your McCartney reviews ?
Thanks for your videos, much appreciated.
The full 2 lp version of ATMP can fit onto one of the cd's so they should have had the album on one cd and the apple jam all alone on the second disc. Would have been a better listening experience.
Hi John, what record stores or markets can you suggest in Budapest?
The apple jam is great as much as it is a historical document. Alan Lomax (The famed musicologist), had he lived to this time might have been pleased as I do.
Knock.
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Thanks for your review. I'm a bit more positive about it than you - but, as you say, we are all entitled to our own opinions! A couple of specific comments. I've never enjoyed Wah Wah despite it often being listed among people's favourite tracks. In contrast, I find the Apple Jam to be a bit of fun and well worth a listen - which is again contrary to most people's views. I wonder if George would have been happy with this 50th anniversary edition. I suspect he may have liked how his vocals are brought forward in the mix.
I meant basic LP. Still have not decided what I like best. I prefer the colored 2001 release on CD.
I was disappointed with the quality control of dish warps on 3 out of 8 vinyl lps plus the high end detail is veiled covered with boomy bass and muffled muddy audio. It's the worst sounding ATMP ever released. I'm sticking with my original German vinyl and the 2017 remaster and saving myself $250.
open up your pocket book and buy the 8lp. divide the cost into the 8 records and it i $22,50 a disc
Listen in high res. It's incredible
Listen to the usa 2nd press I found sounds muddy muffled the very 1st press sounds alot crisp and better tone first press has made in the usa circle on the inside cover
John, how you rate the All Things Must Pass edition from 2014 (Apple Years boxset) in relation to the editions from 2001 and 2021 ? CD editions only
I have the 2001 2014 and I’ve heard enough of the 2021 remix to say the 2014 CD release is my favorite. The sound is clearer than the 30th with better clarity. It is not as ear piercingly loud as the new remix and also maintains the original mix. The 2014 CD release is my favorite digital version of this album.
There was a 2010 HD digital download version that is supposed to the best sounding release of this album but it is no longer available, it is sort of the holy grail for this album. Too bad.
@@allthingsclassicrock thank you, I appreciate your comments. I will go for the 2014 edition, and will also purchase the 2021 release for the bonus material.
Another great a very honest video John & for me personally i don't like this new remix at all & certain merits yes but on the whole it isn't a patch on the 30th anniversary remaster.... In my own opinion his most famous song My Sweet Lord suffers the most as it sounds like it was recorded down a drain & is just so flat presented here & as for George's vocals they warble all over the place! Some of the outtakes are very nice but as for value for money this is a terrible buy! I'm just hoping the Beatles Let It Be/Get Back forthcoming package is much much better!!!!
Want to say, I don't have the 50th edition. I have it twice already, no need to buy it again.
I was listening to "Living In The Material World" the other day and think the songs on it are just as good as "ATMP." Let's just say that "Living In The Material World" came out first and it had the "ATMP" production (with Spector producing) and "ATMP" came out second and had the "Living In The Material World" production (with Harrison producing).
Would we be talking about "Living In The Material World" as the big album with all the remixes and "ATMP" as a really good album?
was listening to Material World yesterday….so underrated compared to AtMP!
Overall, yeah it was a bit of a miss. The drums sound great, I will admit, and thankfully a bit of unnecessary echo was reduced. Run of the Mill and My Sweet Lord sounds really great remixed, and I did like some of the outtakes (especially the Hear Me Lord you’ve mentioned). But George’s voice being up in the mix was a bit unsettling to me. It felt like he was too loud to the point it felt like he was narrating and not singing as part of the song
I first heard this album in the 90s before it was remastered and it sounded fine. Have to say, I think the lyrics to Wah Wah are nonsense from start to finish.
@Grammy Award winning engineer Paul Hicks.Really?
You look like fernando lavecchia
1:56 I have this. I bought it in 2000 also. It's one of my most prized possessions along with my Led Zeppelin DVD.
Cheap looking for an anniversary
Too Bad Bobby Whitlock was not asked to contribute to this. Iv'e heard the LP mix is bad.... Whats your take?
Unfortunately the songs that suffered the most from Spector's bombastic ruination still sound bad ( Wah Wah, Let It Down, Awaiting on You All and the dreadful horns on the Title track ). Guess some of his nonsense was un-removable. The out takes and basic tracks are fantastic, however. The Day 1 tracks are particularly wonderful, with just Ringo and Klaus . Thanks for another great video, John.