fantastic idea to have the whole front of the benchtop acting as a faceplate, will make the work much more stable.I just bought a vintage Dawn No 9 and will get into the install tomorrow, John
Thanks for your kind comment. I saw that method about 20 years ago and have since applied it to dozens of installations on school workbenches. Properly mounting a vice takes more time and effort, but the reward is worth it. Who's got the time to work with a bodgy vice installation? 😀
I have a couple of Dawn fabricated (best) offset Engineers vices. A 125mm I bought new and a 100mm in great condition apart from cosmetics. I inherited my Dad's 6" Dawn word working vice and this afternoon I will be checking out a 10" quick release one. Your video will be just what I need. Thanks.
Sounds like you've got some great equipment. Glad the video is helpful. I chose not to go with a quick release vice because I've always found them more trouble than the simple operation of a non-quick release. But you may have better success than me, or find better quick release vices. 😀 Thanks for the comment, and have a great day.
Interesting. I have just installed my similar vice, also using bolts from the top through the (Tassie Oak!!) frame, and then I'll add the top, then protective 3-ply. I came here looking for confirmation that bolting the inner face place through the frame too is a good idea. Yours is the first time I've seen a vice installed behind an edge band - kinda cool.
Struggling to find a decent heavy duty vice in the UK. There are old Record ones on ebay which look rusty and abused, or new ones on Amazon that look made in China. I already have a really cheap one that I want to upgrade but options are limited. It seems the vices these days are all top mounted ones. There are hundreds of them, but I want a jaw that can open around 8"
Finding good vices can be difficult these days. I had to specially order this one. Fitting it to the bench took some time, but this method is definitely worth the effort. Thanks for stopping by to leave a comment. 😀
@@ColinKlupiec I just placed a low bid on a Record No52 1/2 with quick release. I think no one else has bid yet because it's collection only so only local people will be interested, and lucky for me it's not too far if the price is right. In 4 days we'll know if I snagged a bargain. Don't want to bid too much as it's about an hour drive if it turns out to be a time waster.
@@ColinKlupiec Not really. It's worth the drive if I can get for the starting bid (no one else at the moment). The money I spend on petrol would be far less than delivery costs and it's worth an hour's journey in that case. Otherwise they are 4 times the price. The good thing is I get to see it before I buy it
I bought a Record NO 52 1/2 off Ebay UK a few month ago for 30 pounds. It cost more to ship it to me here in Sweden. It is a 1930-35 era model and it works very well.
I recently bought a second hand one of these vices for £25, which is about 45 aussie dollars. A bargain it would appear! I started making my bench today and based on this video I am planning on setting the front stretcher back 130mm so it remains in one piece. I have a 900mm by 2m by 40mm thick piece of mdf from an old kitchen table. The mdf is chamferred, so I'll have to to careful. I intend to cut the mdf to about 600mm depth. Maybe the cut edge is the one I should be using at the front? How do you decide where to position the vice? I would have thought towards the left or right depending what handed you are. But I notice you placed yours near the centre? Enjoyed your video.
Hi Charlie. Thanks for your comments and questions. Sounds like you got a great deal. Using the cut edge of the bench top will provide a more definite dimension to work from, and more likely give a better result. My vice is placed in the centre for purely practical reasons. I also park a car in this space occasionally. If the vice is to the left, it gets in the way of the opening car door. If it’s to the right it’s too close to the end wall. I’d usually place a vice closer to a corner, but in this case the centre was a better all round location. Glad you got value from the video. All the best with your bench build.
It is better for the vice to be away from the edge so you can hold whatever you need to clamp, instead of it being flush and no place for your hand to go without getting your fingers pinched. Nice video though, would be great to have all the Festool tools, but too expensive though.
Paul Sellers advocates this method, and I prefer it, too. But clamping things flush to the edge also has its advantages, especially for longer pieces, and especially if the legs of the bench are flush with the edge as well. It’s worth making a plan in advance, although you can always use scrap pieces or jigs to solve those problems. But I will say that being able to get your fingers between the clamped piece and the edge of the bench is very convenient most of the time.
Two years later, this is still my go to vice install video out of all of them on youtube, thank you!
Thank you for your kind feedback. I really appreciate it.
Nice to see Willem Dafoe has taken an interest in woodworking
LOL. Perhaps I should try acting some time.😆
fantastic idea to have the whole front of the benchtop acting as a faceplate, will make the work much more stable.I just bought a vintage Dawn No 9 and will get into the install tomorrow, John
Thanks for your kind comment. I saw that method about 20 years ago and have since applied it to dozens of installations on school workbenches. Properly mounting a vice takes more time and effort, but the reward is worth it. Who's got the time to work with a bodgy vice installation? 😀
That's a purty-looking vise. Really nice install.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. Yes, it's a great vice. It gets a lot of use.
This is the best, neatest vise install on RUclips. Solid result, thanks
Hi Martyn. Thanks for your kind feedback. Glad you got value from the demo. Have a great day. 😀
That is a nice looking vice. I've got an old Dawn engineers vice awaiting restoration on the 'to do' list ;)
Thanks. I’ve mounted a fair few vices in my time…finally got around to documenting the process.
I have a couple of Dawn fabricated (best) offset Engineers vices.
A 125mm I bought new and a 100mm in great condition apart
from cosmetics.
I inherited my Dad's 6" Dawn word working vice and this afternoon I
will be checking out a 10" quick release one.
Your video will be just what I need. Thanks.
Sounds like you've got some great equipment. Glad the video is helpful. I chose not to go with a quick release vice because I've always found them more trouble than the simple operation of a non-quick release. But you may have better success than me, or find better quick release vices. 😀 Thanks for the comment, and have a great day.
Great information and we have 8 pieces awaiting installing. Love this video and very helpful. Thank you.
Hi Paka. Thanks for your kind feedback. These vices are really great. Glad you got value from the video. Have a great day.
Interesting. I have just installed my similar vice, also using bolts from the top through the (Tassie Oak!!) frame, and then I'll add the top, then protective 3-ply. I came here looking for confirmation that bolting the inner face place through the frame too is a good idea. Yours is the first time I've seen a vice installed behind an edge band - kinda cool.
Thanks for sharing the method you used to mount your vice. Glad you got some value out of this video. Have a great day.
Thanks greatly appreciated
You're very welcome. Glad it helped. 😀
Struggling to find a decent heavy duty vice in the UK. There are old Record ones on ebay which look rusty and abused, or new ones on Amazon that look made in China. I already have a really cheap one that I want to upgrade but options are limited. It seems the vices these days are all top mounted ones. There are hundreds of them, but I want a jaw that can open around 8"
Finding good vices can be difficult these days. I had to specially order this one. Fitting it to the bench took some time, but this method is definitely worth the effort. Thanks for stopping by to leave a comment. 😀
@@ColinKlupiec I just placed a low bid on a Record No52 1/2 with quick release. I think no one else has bid yet because it's collection only so only local people will be interested, and lucky for me it's not too far if the price is right. In 4 days we'll know if I snagged a bargain. Don't want to bid too much as it's about an hour drive if it turns out to be a time waster.
@@ArcanePath360 Wow, that's commitment. I hope it works out for you. Then again, I've driven long distances in the past to find the tools I need.
@@ColinKlupiec Not really. It's worth the drive if I can get for the starting bid (no one else at the moment). The money I spend on petrol would be far less than delivery costs and it's worth an hour's journey in that case. Otherwise they are 4 times the price. The good thing is I get to see it before I buy it
I bought a Record NO 52 1/2 off Ebay UK a few month ago for 30 pounds. It cost more to ship it to me here in Sweden. It is a 1930-35 era model and it works very well.
I recently bought a second hand one of these vices for £25, which is about 45 aussie dollars. A bargain it would appear!
I started making my bench today and based on this video I am planning on setting the front stretcher back 130mm so it remains in one piece.
I have a 900mm by 2m by 40mm thick piece of mdf from an old kitchen table.
The mdf is chamferred, so I'll have to to careful. I intend to cut the mdf to about 600mm depth. Maybe the cut edge is the one I should be using at the front?
How do you decide where to position the vice? I would have thought towards the left or right depending what handed you are. But I notice you placed yours near the centre?
Enjoyed your video.
Hi Charlie. Thanks for your comments and questions. Sounds like you got a great deal. Using the cut edge of the bench top will provide a more definite dimension to work from, and more likely give a better result. My vice is placed in the centre for purely practical reasons. I also park a car in this space occasionally. If the vice is to the left, it gets in the way of the opening car door. If it’s to the right it’s too close to the end wall. I’d usually place a vice closer to a corner, but in this case the centre was a better all round location. Glad you got value from the video. All the best with your bench build.
It is better for the vice to be away from the edge so you can hold whatever you need to clamp, instead of it being flush and no place for your hand to go without getting your fingers pinched. Nice video though, would be great to have all the Festool tools, but too expensive though.
Hey, thanks for your feedback on the video. That's an interesting approach. I might try that some time. Have a great day. 😀
@@ColinKlupiec I saw a video Paul Sellers did and that is how he has his. Made perfect sense when he explained it. Have a great day!
@@chewar7537 Sounds interesting. I'll check it out.
You could use a packer piece or screw same to vice jaw when required.
Paul Sellers advocates this method, and I prefer it, too. But clamping things flush to the edge also has its advantages, especially for longer pieces, and especially if the legs of the bench are flush with the edge as well. It’s worth making a plan in advance, although you can always use scrap pieces or jigs to solve those problems. But I will say that being able to get your fingers between the clamped piece and the edge of the bench is very convenient most of the time.