They say is won't leak... I'll be the judge of that!
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2023
- I bought this "Anti-Leak" AIO for a build and decided not to use it... so instead I will test the leak proof theory!
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That bag is inside the radiator and it's pressurised to a certain amount, when the liquid temperature increases the pressure will also increase and the volume of the bag decreases to maintain a constant pressure inside the aio. It works like a reverse water expansion tank that you usually find beside an electric water heater.
Exactly! And that's why I got the deepcool castle 360 in 2019 to throw on my brand new 3700x. No problems going strong front mounted.
Was about to comment this, for some of these videos I really wish jay would invest 5 mins more of really understanding the Idea.
Edit: It's kinda nice that, as a side effect, you can refill this AIO with distilled water in case too much diffused:)
@@Ahniiit's shit like this that keeps Jay well and truly in the "entertainment" category. I watch almost all of his videos, and I do enjoy them, but sometimes he just starts chatting absolute bollocks about things he could have understood with like ten minutes of effort.
I mean even the pic he showed shows it sticking out so you can freaking see it with a big arrow that shows how air is what comes that way. OR he could read the paragraph right next to it..... How would that even work. That doesn't even make sense. I think he's smoking the stuff bro.
yup, for a dude with the kinda cars and tech he deals with every day, his choices on the camaro rebuild, his pushing of new over used gpus, and constant lack of research firmly keeps him out of "authority" on things@@TheSkiddywinks
I have a white lt520, and have loved it. The infinity mirror over the pump and plate is one of the best looking on an AIO in my opinion.
Just bought the 360 in white. Can’t wait to see it in the system. The simple connectors to the mobo header is nice to see. How have you found the performance and noise?
Yes!! The infinity mirror looks great
I took a chance and picked up a DeepCool AK620 for my build last year it it has held up fantastically and for the price it has been excellent. Plus I just love the checkerboard style pattern on the fins, it looks so good.
Same here. Grabbed the zero dark version of the AK620 for my 7900x build and it’s been fantastic for the price.
Hell yeah it's awesome. Running an undervolted 13900k runs great for gaming.
Same here. People had high raves about it, so I took a leap of faith and purchased it. Keeps my 13700k below 50C on idle. No regrets!
Backstory for Jay : Deepcool once sold a case with a build-in AIO called the Deepcool Genome. Super cool case with the double-helix AIO. The AIO had issues exploding due to pressure build up. They modified it for the V2. Ever since Deepcool has been all about this anti-leak technology
The LT 720 Deepcool aIO is rated as one of the Top 10 AIOS globally. They use their own custom Pump instead of the Asetek imported by others. Also they're very reliable.
I just bought this cooler yesterday! Was kinda nervous about the idea of watercooling but this makes me a bit more confident about things
@@lurch789what a strange ignorant thing to say.
One of us! One of us! 😂😂
I just bought this a week ago. It is my first time leaving the ol' familiar air cooler. I appreciated the innovation, to ease my apparently unfounded concerns, and in doing so bringing old dogs like me in to unfamiliar territory.
There was this res that did the same thing. Let's see how this works! Thanks Jay keep up the amazing videos and your work!
I went with the Deepcool LT720 for my first ever PC Build (built the PC a few weeks ago), and I LOVE IT! the AIO looks so nice and it has been cooling my 13700K nicely and pretty quietly. I have no complaints so far
so far... AiOs are not made to last, they will fail at some point.
@@wherearemytesticles They can last 5 years if you're lucky. I was against one at first, but after the next gen Noctua air coolers got delayed and after hearing how hot the 13700k can get, I decided to get one
@@wherearemytesticles A decent AIO will last at least the lifespan of your gaming PC if not longer. I've had 4 gaming PC's in my life and only one of them I kept for longer than 5 years before it needed to be upgraded/replaced to deal with the latest games.
@@wherearemytesticlesthat's a general issue with watercooling. Pumps can die, stuff can get clogged up (although that's usually an issue with the coolant), it's just a matter of fact that moving parts can, and will break eventually. Same thing with fans by the way. It's rare, but it happens. AIOs are the easy watercooling solution, and, generally speaking, a lot cheaper than custom loops, let alone the time you spend on those.
So, yeah. People are aware that they aren't made to last forever, but that comes with the benefit of low/no maintenance and easy replacing it
And so you can buy another one. They lasts years, not days @@wherearemytesticles
this is awesome been waiting to see something on these. had it in my cart for a couple months. can't wait to see the verdict
i used the gammaxx 400 v2 for two recent builds and they are actually really good coolers. definitely put deepcool on the radar for me.
I have a Deepcool Captain 240 PRO V2 that is still running perfectly since januari 2020. It also haves the anti leak tech you mentioned.
Very good temps and pump is still silent. I'm very happy i went with Deepcool.
I heard they produce all their AIO's in house.
I just got the LT720. It's cooling my 7950x. I absolutely love this cooler. Great performance, loved the RGB too. Many claim that the LT720 (360mm) can handle the 13900k better than any other. up to 315w I believe
I'm more concerned about pump failure than a leak with AIO's which often means the entire unit needs replacing.
Custom loop is where leaks are my main concern because more points of failure while pump failure not since it's replaceable.
I'm _pretty_ sure there was another AIO that had that feature a couple/few years back. No idea what it was, but I definitely remember seeing a video about it. I think they called it a valve though, it was a piece that would pop out.
yes there was, nzxt or fractal i think.... gamers nexus tested it
Damn, look at all that wonderful workbench area you have to work with! So much room for activities and unboxings. Shop is looking good, great content as usual team.
Oh wow I'm interested in hopping into the world of water cooling with a LT720, so this video is greatly appreciated!
I got it just recently
And I'm planning on getting one in a month or so, along with a new case, also appreciative of the video 👍
I have the LT720 cooling my i7-12700k. Great cooler.
Go for it!! I bought the LT720 for my 13700k and it's doing great! I removed the stock the thermal paste and applied Arctic MX-6 and it keeps my CPU cool even under heavy loads
Seeing it survive this type of torture test speaks really well to its construction! Great stuff, Jay!
Kind of hard to say it survived the test, it just didn't fail spectacularly. That is all we know for sure.
72C is not a high temperature to be honest.. Water boils at 100C. Most gpus and CPUs get hotter than that by far
@@flatmotion1 Did you watch the video at all?
@@flatmotion1 72C isn't a high temp for the CPU. The fluid temp, and pump operating temp (the part Jay was focusing on), have very different thresholds.
Yeah im still sticking with air cooler. AIO just seems like a ticking bomb waiting to fail and break your components
I'm glad you're doing ads for that Montech. I bought the Air Max after your video and could not be happier
Keep it together man! Love the reference!
Jay bro that made my day. Much needed. Thanks!
just got mine and installed it in pop air mini , love it. happy to see this video because i was skeptical
bought a LS720 about a week ago and i fully love it!
This AIO is also one of, if not the cheapest AIO at microcenter. I was looking at getting this one for my build because I thought the block/pump looked very thin, which I needed for my SFF build. Ended up getting the newer model Lian Li AIO that recently came out and modding my case to fit.
I just purcashed one these, but a 360mm. Looks good, works well, and cant hear water. Significantly reduced my temps by 10c, over my 240mm cooler master. One thing I have noticed is hazing on the inside of the cube, after about 1 months use.
Bursting tubes are something I've never really worried about with aios/water cooling. It's more things like an issue my friend had where the tube split, leaked onto his gpu and killed it.
I've watch quite a few videos on AOI's and apparently for one to leak is VERY VERY VERY VERYYYYYY rare. like almost basically impossible. Though the longer you have it the chance I guess could be higher? or you get a really really faulty one.
I'm wondering about the vacuum device that is supposed to stop any chance of leaking in a custom loop.
I got 3x LT720, one of them the pump broke after a month. The RMA was slow, i had to use another cooler for 2 weeks. Hopefully they will all be stable.
You should have put the inlet/ outlet tubes to the radiator on top of testing set-up (and higher than the pump). That way it would be in the configuration it would be in a system. Also, the relief point would be at the highest point of the loop, increasing chance of failure.
Loveee my deep cool 240 aio, keeps my 9th gen cool at 5ghz. Also agree with jay they are bringing innovation and quality at a affordable price point. I really wish they would have continued the pump head with the glass and metal pipe in them... looked so industrial !
as always ty for your hard work and dedication!
p.s. @4:52 ty for always remembering to zip up, sometimes i forget,...
I have an old ROG certified Genome Gamerstorm case. V1 from memory. I've had this for about 5 years now with daily use and suffered many heavy overclocking on CPU and many stress tests.
The stock AIO that's built into the case is still going strong.
I've had 1 issue with it where the pump seems to have stopped working and the pc shut down. A few 'if it's already broken, I can't break it more' taps, and it's been working again for the last year without any further issues.
Ngl i LOVE the MCRN wallpaper on the monitor in the background. Lol
JayzTwoCients! Always great. Haven't looked at the cost of that piece but, got a mid ATX case from them quite a while ago now for my other rig. Not the greatest airflow but, for $68 I think it makes a great buy especially if your into case modding. Top and front covers come off very easy and solid construction for something that costs $30~40 less than most mainstream cases in the same category.
my first corsair aio still going strong :) I think its 12 years or more. Even the fan is working
I purchased my first AIO, a Fractal Design celsius S36 nearly 6 years ago based on your review of it ( it will be 6 years on the 29th december 2023 ) and it is still going strong. ive had to repaste it a couple times and going to do it again soon but now that youve said that youre lucky if youve had one last 5 years, im kinda nervous now...
I had a Corsair H80i V1 that failed in the cold plate oring and started leaking. It didnt damage anything though and Corsair was quick to replace it with an H80i V2 though so that was good.
Love the MCRN logo on the monitor in the background!!
This anti-leak is functioning similar to an expansion tank on a home hot water system.
I would suggest looking up the operation and function of a boiler system expansion tank and you'll see what deep cool was doing with this air blatter.
I have the LS720 series and have had no issues with it. Deepcool does make a good AIO.
in the past, deepcool had lots of aio leak issue, thats why i had trust issue with aio & go with air cooler instead
What if pump failure so no coolant moving from cold plate but the CPU is still cranking out 90c for long time with no fluid moving would results change? Thanks for the content.
Nice Jay!
I have been considering purchasing this aio, so this video may make my mind up for me
I gotta question. Is the Strix 4060 worth the price which you could get a 4060 TI at?
I've wondered if the misconception that the coolant temperature is always similar to the component temperature partly has to do with people saying to have fan speed controlled by the coolant temperature but fail to mention that you'd want a different fan curve.
Hi Jay. Would you take the best AIO components, in your opinion, from the AIOs you have tested and build your ultimate AIO? Since AIO pumps can clog, wouldn't a small, removable, in-line filter help to solve this problem? Could a radiator overflow tank similar to the ones found in cars also help with the bursting and be an excellent way to top off the coolant?
lol at that point just do a custom loop (soft or hardtube)
I think the idea is that the loop's pressure is kept constant and low. without attaching to an external tube and measuring the pressure and then hitting it with heat, will we know. Id love a followup though, would apply to full WC loops too.
Just bought the lt720 for my first aio. Love it so far.
I bought le520 240mm for my 13600k and I loved it. It was also said that it comes with anti leak. The performance also better for a budget AIO cooler.
The Expanse PC looks like a shocked Minion in the background 😂
I have a Deepcool LT720 cooling my 13900k currently and I'm happy with their AIO for sure. Hopefully I never need the anti-leak though!
We use that same tech in our tube heads for dental radiation technology. It does take a lot of heat and as you stated many other bad thing have to happen in order to get that much heat. I have a few pics of the ballon expanding on the tube head if interested.
As always thanks for the informative vids.
The reason I love this channel is because Jay is just one of us - he doesn't try to be some super investigative journalist, he doesn't need 100 people on a team. He's just a goofy nerd who likes tinkering with stuff. Been a fan for years and hope Jay keeps putting out content like this. Tinkering is more entertaining than graphs and marketing.
I agree. It’s a great team and no bigger than it needs to be
i bought this one a few weeks back. been working well so far
I grabbed the lt720 during prime day for my then also new to me 7800x3d. I absolutely love this AIO! It looks great, I've yet to hear it at all and it keeps my 7800x3d very cool. I also only payed around $95 for it which is crazy cheap for a 360mm AIO!
Hey, Jay! Maybe you should retry this test with a brand new AIO. As you know, an old AIO will have lost some water mass to permeation, which results in reduced system pressure and/or air insertion, which would perform the same function as the bladder in the DeepCool. A brand new AIO would experience far greater pressure change. That said, those flexible tubes just might have enough elasticity in them that you still wouldn't get the same effect as heating an inelastic radiator.
Great, now I am looking at my 5 year old Fractal Celsius S36 AIO the same way you were looking at this radiator waiting for it to fail. Thanks Jay
My room-mate has my old Deepcool 360mm AIO.. it's well over 5 years old at this point.. and still going strong
pretty sure the bag is inside the housing and expanding there. You have the same system in heating loops for apartments with a gas heater. The "bag" just makes sure the loop is always full and under about the same pressure by expanding and shrinking with temperature.
First time builder. Do you not have to add liquid with these liquid cooler? I have ordered cooler master with 3 fans and looking to have all parts to built soon.
Interesting tech.
I think it works well enough because as Jay points out... there are other fail safes in the computer which would stop the AIO from getting that hot.
(e.g. your cpu will throttle long before the water temp gets close to a bursting temp. )
Interesting, so you can add/replace the fluid from that bladder hole?
I think AIO's are typically closed loops, that you can't do anything to the fluid.
I love my Deepcool AIO (I don't have this one but I have a different one) its been super awesome so far on my 13600k
Got a cheap pump for the cat water box on Ali and on a regular base I put near boiling temperature water in it to kill bacteria. I let it run until the water is cold then I throw it out and replace the water with new cold water. Works reasonably well to clean it.
That pump sounds exactly like it did when I first installed it. Pumps are capable of more than you think they are.There is a limit but that limit is probably >100c after all you want to remove the possibility that it dies if you forget to plug in the power.
at 4:30 min in, im so excited to see jay heat this rad up
I have a Corsair H100i I bought used with an AMD FX-9590 BE for about $130 several years ago and it still works great.
Thanks for the honest review Jay
I bought the 360mm version for my 5900x after my h100i v2 failed (clogged rad)
I’ve been using Deepcool’s older Castle 360 AIO for over 3 years now in my pc. It seems to still perform just as good as when I first installed it. In the AIO space I think Deepcool does everything right. Great performance, attractive designs, reliability, and more affordable than most of its competitors. I can also see the “leak proof” tech indirectly be something that potentially extends the life of the pump by actively reducing the loop pressure. Not entirely sure if that is happening in practice tho.
I've had a deepcool AIO for 5 years and it's been reliable as hell. I've pulled it out twice now in those 5 years to shake it and determine if there was too much evap and reapply TP. No sloshing even 5 years in. craziness.
i have been using an older model Deepcool Gamerstorm 240 AIO for over 5 years.. Yes 5 years since I bought it in 2018 to cool my i7 6700K, i had many doubts about this deepcool because i was not familiar with his brand and it was the only one that was in my budgetand it never leaked. I have removed and reinstalled the AIO multiple times as part of PC cleaning. It still performs well :)
The expanse PC in background, reminds me of Bender from Futurama LOL
I just bought this AIO for my ITX PC. unfortunately the RGB pump cover would not fit in my Meshify case without hitting the fans so i left it off. Now I am curious what antileak means.
I believe it is like the air bladder on your home water inline expansion tank that will release air when the pressure gets to high.
Love your videos!!
I had a corsair aio sitting in my closet unused. I was looking for an aio that doesn’t have a lot of connectors and need software. I installed icue had nothing but crashes with it and have to uninstall and reinstall and it was just a pain. I may be swapping it out for this and trashing the corsair aio and getting rid of the software bloat from corsair.
If the pressure is reduced at hotter end then it would reduce possibility of leaks at cpu plate seals as well cos I imagine the pressure is what starts the leak.
It probably doesn’t need much volume, just enough to cover the liquid expansion.
I have a Deepcool Castle 360ex cooling my 5950X (PBO enabled) and it has also this anti-leak tech. What I can tell you is that sometimes (rarely) I can hear a little "phssssst" which I think the cooler is relieving some pressure build-up inside the loop? So it must be doing something?
thanks J
I got an LT720 for my current build but the pump went bad after a few months with a horrible grinding sound. There support was great they even cross shipped a replacement. Asus wont even do that without paying them money.
I'm rocking the LT720. It's a beauty!
air expands way more then water under heat. So it could be that this security is making a difference after permeation removed water and increased air volume in the system.
I'm curious about Lenovo's new 9i and how the self-contained liquid cooling system works. Any chance you might check it out?
I have the deepcool LS720 for my i9-13900k by far the best aio I've had been about 6 months of use no problems and haven't noticed any thermal issue's while gaming for hours
Cool video. As a newer AIO user, leaks were something I was a bit worried about.
BTW Jay, do you know if any manufacturers have made IP68 water resistant PC components? Like motherboards, PSU’s ect? Or if there are any in the making?
I'm clearly not Jay but I did want to mention FSP's power supplies, alot of them have a conformal coating on the PCB and components to make them much more resilient to humidity and damp environments
My NZXT Kraken X52 is now 7 Years Old and it still runs as good as new :D
IS won't leak! I love you guys!
It looks like an ingeneer test object project in a classroom .
Nice idea , good theory , doesnt need in practice.
water expand , air get compressed already in the waterchamber of the aio that is not fully filled up so baloon is pointless en technicaly needs a counter air pressure like expansion tanks , that already has pressure in cold state , have .
I got an Amazon deal and got the DeepCool LS720 (360mm) for 80 bucks!, Thing runs my 13700K OC to 6Ghz with no issues no thermal throttling NADA! Highly recommended.
I have a 420mm AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer II ARGB am i good with that ? Using it on a Ryzen 7950X3D.
Wonder if the tech is like the one LTT test a few years back that lowered the pressure when it found a leak.
Great testing. Maybe get a blast shield next time 😂
I don't think this could be an issue with flexible tubing, I believe the tubes can deform enough to accommodate the extra volume. That small rubber must be more than enough to compensate the volume change of such small amount of liquid. However with hard tube setups with a lot of liquid this is definitely an issue, that is why I'm always running an open loop. I had a burst once because of high pressure and deformed PETG tubes (it was before the times of PETG inserts), and don't want to have one again.
Im using a Deepcool LS720 for about a year now on my 13700k. One of the best AIO‘s I ever used. And that’s not only a subjective feel. Roman and Steve tested their products and they are equal to way more expansive aios
And yes it is not an asetek pump it is in house developed
does that mean they can only sell it to Europe?
@@ppsarrakis no why should they?
cause i read that asketek has patented having the pump on the cpu block but only on US so companies like Corsair made some weird AIO with the pump on the radiator for example.@@aqulex84
I replaced my old Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 with this AIO, it's doing a good job for my 5600x. it certainly isn't as affordable but I love the unique infinity mirror design and you can re fill the radiator
you sayed you would use it for intel and not for amd then try both and we find out if its good and cool good enouth for both ?!
The idea of the rubber insert is to keep the pressure low, when the coolant warms up it will expand and produce more pressure vs when is cold, with the rubber insert the pressure wont go up as much or at all (while within nornal operating temp range), so less pressure less chance to leak thru o rings and such.
I love the MCRN wallpaper! It's clearly legitimate salvage
1) I'd guess you boiled the coolant on the first one where it pressurised with steam 2) I loved looking at the expanse PC sitting in the background
love the expance wallpaper
I have this AIO and it works great.
I have the LT720 and love it solely for the aesthetics