Joe Budden REVEALS The DEAL Joell Ortiz & Crooked I OFFERED HIM For SLAUGHTERHOUSE ALBUM
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Crooked was right about this: "how can I trust you to finance Slaughter when you can't even call me"
Joe budden is someone you don't ever take face value from.
You wanted a bigger cut on the tour than us bc you were on love n hiphop...what would it look like, if you financed/owned it... joe has a HISTORY w this shit.
Simply put. These guys arnt as close as they claimed to be. And they simply dont trust joe to be parts of contracts. Bc he has a history of not honoring contracts... and dicking over his partners.
Wanting a bigger cut in the group because he was on a reality show is CRAZY!!😂😂@@Youknow6969able
And keep him away from your dog... He might jerk it😂😂
@@MrMdollars red rocket red rocket.
@@MrMdollars ,oh sh*t, that's f*cked up you have to get a restraining order for your dog 🤣
joe budden refers to himself in the 3rd person more times than a WWE wrestler.
Lol. Good one
He’s daredevil, what you expect
Hahaha yeah who does that!
@Shawn Disagreed
So basically, this is how I interpret it. Joe was holding the slaughterhouse name hostage by saying he’s retired. The reality of all of this is doing business with people that move like Joe does is painful. I worked in private equity, I know what capital hostages look like, and this seems to be the case here. It appears that it’s either Joes’ slaughterhouse or no slaughterhouse. They went on without his approval or consent or agreement to contractual obligations and now he’s mad because he didn’t okay it. Joe can shit on it all he wants but he played chicken and lost.
This should be top comment on every video relating to this.
Like Ortiz was saying on the live, it’s just as much his story as Joe’s but Joe DEFINITELY doesn’t want to hear that because it can’t possibly be about someone else too. Joe seems like the worst kind of friend.
@@2sense635 Facts
Best comment on this subject
💯💯💯💯💯
After what happened between Joe, Rory & Mal, why would Crooked & Joel trust Joe to finance a Slaughterhouse album and think the residuals would be divided fairly????
Mal and Rory wouldn't be millionaires if it wasn't for Joe budden. He threw them a alley Oop
Joe was on his Hollywood ish after Love and Hip Hop. They saw it way before the podcast fiasco.
You bringing up those guys rn is crazy and says everything about you
When you watch the jpb or watch Joe's comical appearances in places you may not remember that this dude put everything on the line to switchup his career. If any of y'all ever had to redact everything in life and start building from brick one whilst breaking the bank you'd understand Joe's language.
You could be wrong on one thing and right about another. I don’t see what Joe and Royce did wrong in this current slaughter house situation. Sounds like Crook and Joel let their emotions drive them in this situation.
In all honesty, how are people a fan of Budden? Dude double talks on everything and think he’s on some level above everyone. Exactly why Raekwon and crew humbled him
He’s entertaining and he speaks his mind. Too many scary mfs out here don’t say what they feel cuz they wanna protect their relationships. Joe doesn’t gaf
@@DJMotorMouth713 Dude isn't speaking his mind. His a character and this bipolar stuff is his blueprint. 🤣 people are so naive.
Fan of his music.. you can separate the 2.. im a huge Joe Budden MUSIC fan.. Can't stand Joe Budden the person... Do you have friends you close to that raps but are trash at it? Don't mean you love them no less as a person.. same case just flipped..
@@DJMotorMouth713 he don't speak his mind, he creates narratives, and he is super industry
@@justacasualgaming same with r Kelly he is a bad person but his music too good I’m not quitting that I can separate the two
Joe has the worst track record of doing business. I would not trust him to run a lemonade stand.
But that's what contracts and negotiations are for...im sure either way they would have had to have a lawyer
Joe got more money then all of them. Joe is not dumb and he's not wrong for not doing bad deals and letting companies own him.
@@imwaytwogoated6 He was lucky he wasn't sued into the ground for not completing his oblegations for Slaughter House.
he didn't have to record lol ..they could of sued all they want,thats like an artist suing for getting shelved
Facts sadly on both ends too
Joe wanted to finance Slaughter House for one reason. Not because he wanted to partner with slaughterhouse members. It was because he wanted to own slaughterhouse.
That's not how ownership works 😂😂😂 it would make him executive producer. But if he is financing the project he's taking ALL THE RISK so YES he should get the bulk share and paid first. Thats how business works. Y'all don't listen to anything dame dash has been saying about funding your own sheeit???
Let’s keep it real here, we got a whole example from the JBP that’s exactly what he wanted to do
he told u that ?
@@PardonMyPresence then he would in effect own them lol learn business dude
That, and his pride over trying to be “better” than the white rapper. He’s bitter that they all work with Em now, he was bitter when all three members did the I Will song with him and it’s just escalated from there.
That hat is..... Nasssssss teeeeeeeeee
Very
The entire Joe Budden is very nasty 😂
@@FoshoTheOne you gotta relax
That brim has been through some shit 😂
🤣🤣🤣 what's with his hat shit.
Mal said it "when he started wearing goofy hats he changed"
Hit the LIKE button for me please!
Joe only makes sense to Joe...... and occasionally Royce!
Joe out here capping. He trying to revise his BS. The Ninja is a wack rapper, a manipulator, narcissist, and RETIRED!
JOE AND ROYCE 59 SOUND SELFISH....... ESPECIALLY JOE BCUZ HIS OBVIOUS OBLIGATION ISN'T MUSIC....... THERE'S THE DISCOMFORT RIGHT THERE..........
Joe be bugging s&d talk is disrespectful…..he stalls and bs’n while fans wait….grow up Joe…he don’t communicate he acts like they gotta run to him
Lol nah that hat is flee no funny shit
You can never correct joe or corner him bc he'll either deny, pivot or change the narrative as if he was speaking from a different context, he didn't 'understand' the original context...
I met people like that. You can't win with them. It's pointless
Joe is a narcissist.
I hate to say this but most ppl like that are doing pretty well in life
He does that all the time 😧 nigga nasttyyy wit the pivot
@@justscooters9821 yeah but they destroy a lot of things, I realized I have a lot of those tendencies 🤦🏾♂️😭
Joe the type to find ways to be right even when he wrong
I'm pretty sure he's a Virgo... js lol
Because dude is 100% a narcist. Aint nothing ever his fault. He manipulating the truth.
He tryin so hard
If all Joe said was he was hurt at them releasing this there would be no problem. But in addition to the hurt he called them liars, questioned their character, claimed they were just chasing the bag and moving nasty. This is where the problems arise at the name calling and back and forth. No one would say anything bad to Joe saying he is hurt
He also told Joell that the album could suck his d***. Which shows how mature he is.
But they called him and Royce liars questioned their motives and could never respond properly to the claims of chasing a bag. Remember 3 sides to a story
Your side
Their side
The truth
@@DanielGarciaNYC but of course they are "chasing the bag" but as musical artists it's your job to release music and make money. The fact that it's been so many years since their last collective project I believe they had been trying for a long time to get everyone together.
@@DanielGarciaNYC you’re supposed to chase a bag look how corny a Joe Budden narrative is
But they were
You literally can’t be hurt or disappointed if you said that you are retired. Any conversation is dead at that point.
Exactly! This is precisely what "retried" means. I am not doing 'x' anymore.
Joe want the album to be released as a Patreon exclusive on his podcast.
The back and forth was the best promo Slaughterhouse has had so far.
I know Chigs in here Recording everything 🤣😅🤣
Who you think is wrong chicity!
AYOO unrelated but it’s good to see you post, MrChiCity. Hope all is well ✊🏾✊🏾
My dawg!
ChiCity the Legend
Lmao
They did not drag him at all..his ego is out of control
They said that about dame dash but dame was right all these years even Kanye the biggest artist he said those are bad deals they signed
@@sentientbeings3885 who said they signed a deal? They never signed a deal..the deal was off the table and just because Joe is says something doesnt make it true...Joe is spinning shit, Joe is not telling the truth and if you paid close attention to that live you can tell that he is being dishonest. He is trying to act as if he's Michael Jackson and talk down to everyone else when everyone else also has experience with being in the business and are owners as well. Joe is not the only person who understands the business and ownership he's got you fools fooled.
You dont get to determine what was a diss. That's his people and their history.
@@andrethomas187 they did sing a deal. Who do you think Tony Bucher is? He’s the label that provided them with an advance…remember the Hoe culture shit Joe said, do anything for a bag, that’s why he said it. They took an advance from Tony Bucher and listed him as an EP on the album.
@@sentientbeings3885 dame keeps Jay’s name in his mouth and he was the problem and wouldn’t move strategically. He was loud and egotistic, Jay was the opposite. One of them is a billionaire with no bankruptcy on his name. You can’t tell me Jay z does bad business. That was bad example of you.
Joe: “Ain’t nobody come to see you Otis!”
Joell: *Looks around room* “Who tf is Otis?”
😂😂😂😂
When he asked if this could be salvaged and Joe said “who cares”….that’s nasty
Same way he approached the Mal situation . Everybody is disposable to Joe .
Joe feels invisible with his new clout specially after the Ak and his trolls that hate the other two guys, they gassing him and he is keeps playing with his character in the public view.
Joel Ortiz only started caring bout joe budden when an album came out
Joe acts like he doesn’t care but he’s been banging on about it since they dropped the songs. Always tryna act the bigger person yet is petty in his ways
Lol. True
He's banging on about it because he is NOT controlling the narrative about what happened. And that is driving him nuts. Notice how when nobody was speaking on it BUT Joe, he was fine and cool, some would even say "rational and calm"? But now that Crook and Joell are saying THEIR side of the events, Joe is out here banging the drum trying to direct the narrative and focus on one or two "moments' instead of the last 10 years.
probably because they said his name in a bad light... on record. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that much out
@@herrzimm its not about the last 10 years. For a good, 8 of those years, Joe was telling them about the business side. And it took Joe to take a stand against Shady for the rest of the group to realize, oh, this IS bad business.
vintage joe
I see both sides of this and both sides have good points..Royce wuhn down unless Joe was involved, and Joe wasnt involved unless the business was proper which is understandable. Crook and Joell was ready to rock and Crook was willing to talk to Joe regarding the business deal. Joe either neglected or refused to call Crook to discuss the deal which, to Crook and Joell, was an evident sign of refusal to move forward with the deal. And the more Joe talks, the more he reveals that he was not feeling the deal and also did not want to talk to Crook because he is always trying to get him to be apart of some deal that Joe wants no part of. Royce is caught in the middle because to his knowledge Joe never verbally refused the deal, however Joe's silence signaled a refusal to Crook and Joell. That's just the way I see it. This whole thing is fixable, tho Joe very well could have set the bridge ablaze wit that "sick my duck" comment...🙏🏾
Joell Ortiz is from brooklyn bro i promise you this bridge is full well in FLAMES
@@robinsthicke22 Maybe since he owns 100% of his podcast, which is one of the only podcast (without ads pumped throughout the podcast btw), he has absolute freedom to say and does what he wants. So if he was going to do a deal for an album with the slaughterhouse, he cares more about the STRUCTURE AND DETAILS of the DEAL than the album's content.
Joell and Crook hinted that the bag they presented to Royce and Joe was more significant than before. Royce told Joell that there were no terms and conditions presented. Royce trust Joe's Business Acumen from dealing with Spotify and complexity.
If you don't listen to the Joe Budden podcast, he tells you how important it is to own your IP(Intellectual Property). Whether Rory and Mal are thankful or not, they can create their podcast because Joe made sure their rights weren't involved in the deal.
The Likeliness of Slaughterhouse is separated into four. So Crook and Joell using the logo and Likeliness of Slaughterhouse, profits of the new album would legally be separated to all, especially since merchandise is involved as well.
Going through what Joe has gone through with Spotify, Complex, Revolt, and whoever else has presented offers in the past for the Joe Budden Podcast. He has a better vision and experience of what good business looks like than Joell and Crook have shown to all due respect.
@@nicholasmays4099 This post is a culmination of Joe's best qualities while completely ignoring he's selfish, ego driven, and not at all a team player. If you think Joe cares about anyone but himself in this situation - you are the exact victim he's looking for.
There's a difference between 'thinking' for a living and 'talking' for a living.
This shit right here is an ego driven train wreck. This whole situation.
Joe is definitely the bad guy… He’s my 2nd favorite rapper ever but he’s been the problem in EVERY public relationship (personal & business) he’s ever been in 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
True he should sumthin else work @ walmart or sumthin
Right, cause you were there
It’s the pills bro everything joe does he fucks it up with his arrogance 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
You need to reevaluate ya hip hop knowledge if joseph buttons is one of ya fav rappers. Easily one of the worst MCs to EVER live.
True!!!
"I need to find out where Royce and myself caused so much hurt" Nah Joe it's you...it's always you..it's only you
Signing to Joe seems like a terrible idea lol id rather sign to Diddy haha
Hell no . Not Diddy
Shiiiiid I'd sign to Diddy over Joe as well. Diddy will make you famous you'll just owe him your entire life. Joe will let you rock for a short minute and then fuck up the contract
@@alteredpenguin2073 Diddy will fuck you over while you’re signing.
LMAO! FR tho 😂
@@alteredpenguin2073 😂😂😂😂😂
If Joe was in charge the album would be called 'Joe Budden and friends'
😂😂💯
Just look at the "Joe Budden podcast"
The SMD was outta bounds brother
Kxng Krooked know he got the hardest bars out of the crew 💯💯💪💪
We ALL know this fambam
#CircleOfBosses #ZuttttZuuttt #LeftCoastShit #ConductingOrganizedBusiness
Easy
Joe just said 'crook wanted to do a deal Joe didn't' yet he was denying that on IG with Joell.
The man can't even lie correctly 🤣
Rory & Mal: Can we get Details & Documents?
Joe Budden: You Are Fired!
Joe Budden Today:I just wanted Details & Documents.
BINGO!
did they send him atleast what Joe sent ?
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Indeed.
So basically they was supposed to go to Joe and ask him to facilitate a deal under Joe for a new Slaughter House Album without Joe on it or not 😂 . Imagine that conversation 😂😂😂😂 🤦🏾♂️😭😭😭 Joe you bugging cuh you know Damn well you don't fk with them niccas 😂 end of story..
Yes cause Joe is 1/4 of slaughterhouse
@@itszaaaamzeh Maybe since he owns 100% of his podcast, which is one of the only podcast (without ads pumped throughout the podcast btw), he has absolute freedom to say and does what he wants. So if he was going to do a deal for an album with the slaughterhouse, he cares more about the STRUCTURE AND DETAILS of the DEAL than the album's content.
Joell and Crook hinted that the bag they presented to Royce and Joe was more significant than before. Royce told Joell that there were no terms and conditions presented. Royce trust Joe's Business Acumen from dealing with Spotify and complexity.
If you don't listen to the Joe Budden podcast, he tells you how important it is to own your IP(Intellectual Property). Whether Rory and Mal are thankful or not, they can create their podcast because Joe made sure their rights weren't involved in the deal.
The Likeliness of Slaughterhouse is separated into four. So Crook and Joell using the logo and Likeliness of Slaughterhouse, profits of the new album would legally be separated to all, especially since merchandise is involved as well.
Going through what Joe has gone through with Spotify, Complex, Revolt, and whoever else has presented offers in the past for the Joe Budden Podcast. He has a better vision and experience of what good business looks like than Joell and Crook have shown to all due respect.
Look at Joe budden's track record in relationships with people, at some point he starts thinking he's David Ruffin and then burning bridges.
joe constantly switching up the story to make himself look as good as possible... classic narcissist move. joe is a snake
That's exactly what he's doing, I use to like his music unto I figured out how toxic he was.
@@mikeal-lateef_5138 it’s a shame bro i grew up on joe’s music and i used to watch the pod every single episode beginning to end the day they dropped. but he’s done all his BROTHERS shiesty it’s crazy, i can’t even listen to him speak anymore
@@Youngapollo47 Even snakes can provide solid lessons if you approach them creatively. So far all I’ve learned is to NEVER do business with friends.
Joe is a junkie. He would have zero credibility in any court of law
They all are though.
“You gon listen to the project” best part 🤣
Why does the interviewer make random snorting grunts lol
Joe… dont do that because im an artist
And most artists especially fine artists are in horrible places in their minds and we speak through the art because there’s so many thoughts in our heads it can’t even be put into words
So now he's saying he didn't want the deal? He just went off about not turning it down. Dude's a clown
Just like now he tryna say he didn't say "smd". 🤦🏾♂️
lies on top of lies
He said he isn't fucking with the deal without details and there was no official deal. Why is it so hard to follow the timeline from both points of view........
@@jonathanaragon5819 let's not pretend he was ever going to make any effort to find out more about the details of the deal.
Joe seems like he's in his feelings because he has no control or the situation. Look at the Roy and Mal situation. Honestly Joe and Royce shouldn't be upset or hurt by any of this. Support your brothers regardless. I hate seeing this happening.
Joe said since day he wanted Slaughterhouse to stay independent or kept major control. He had to be talked into the shady deal. Once the 1st album on shady dropped, it wasn't received like the 1st so Joe was like why tf did we sign. That's why the second project was delayed.
Facts, Em aint do ISH for them. Budden been called it
Looks like someone didn’t know Eminem used his name and platform as much as he could do Eminem ain’t the fault
It’s the business like joell, crooked Royce and joe couldn’t work out
Joe Budden is the Russell Westbrook of the rap world.
Dont disrespect my boy Russ like that
I don’t understand the comparison..however I’m open to learn 🧐😹
Honestly I don’t hate this comparison 😂😂
These hats getting ridiculous now 😭
In the modern music world labels or executive producers want 360 deals...meaning they take money all the way around (every aspect)...from streams, concert tours, merchandise, publishing, clothing lines, and other ventures. They would have been smart to jointly finance it or have Joe finance the project so they can all retain brand and music ownership. They just had to make sure the project budget is paid back first...then they all split the resulting revenue streams without giving away control. It took years for them to break free from labels just to hand the brand and new recordings over to a new investor?? Wake up guys... Joe is on the right track. He understands the business and intellectual property ownership. (Period)
You must’ve forgot what he did to Rory and Mal. Joe is definitely taking the lions share of anything if he financed that album. And then act like he doesn’t have to explain why. He doesn’t want control FOR slaughterhouse he wants control OF slaughterhouse. Slaughterhouse definitely has the leverage to get distribution deals instead 360s
@@taylorfenton3960 I agree with you, they can get distribution, but distribution is free today. Everything is digital distribution. A distributer today is only an investor that wants to make money off of the artist and when videos, tour support and marketing dollars are also injected, it ALL has to be recouped and you still end up sharing revenue outside of that recoupment...If Joe's intention was to invest and take the lions share or own Slaughterhouse that would be revealed in the agreement...The other members don't have to agree with it or they can turn that down. They should just look at the proposal and compare it to the other deal on the table...they would have an easier chance negotiating the best terms with Joe because Joe knows the pain they all went through together with other labels...I don't believe he would be that heartless. (Well...I dont know Joe personally) but, Just my opinion.
If we know joe.... Listen to him....... The words he uses...he speaks in first person....... I hardly believe he would split the residuals equally.....his business dealings haven't ended well on any aspect of any deal
@@jeromelindsay5954 I don't personally follow him close enough to know that about him. You may be right, but I'm just saying everything would've been revealed in the paperwork.
Joe Budden & Royce: when did we turn down a deal
Joe Budden on this live: they wanted to do a deal Joe didn’t want to do a deal
😂😂😂😂😂
He’s asking questions about a contract before he signed it if Mal did that he wouldn’t be so salty
Lol. Facts
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You can drink it on the rocks, you could make a classic New Amsterdam Mule. You can do whatever you want to do. See, New Amsterdam Vodka is everywhere like broken glass so when you out and about at your local liquor store make sure you pick you up some New Amsterdam Vodka, the official vodka of Barstool sports and the presenting sponsor of "Million dollars worth of game". Shout out to the New Amsterdam Queen Tudie. She be at the crib with her girlfriends making cocktails and shit, messing up my crib and shit. So make sure you get you some New Amsterdam Vodka. And it's just like that.
Pretty much on point lol… Mfer sign contracts without reading them. Hell Mal lawyer said the deal was bad yet he still signed it he can’t really be mad.
Mal lawyer told him not to sign he still did
He is asking questions no problem with that. Why when Crooked says call me about what you want done in the contract he doesn't?
Hahaha "joe makes sense, I think for a living"
Hahahahahaha
Joe just knows how to have conversations where you either agree with him or you’re wrong. There’s no other way around it. Type of person to surround themselves with yes men
Yes men or flying monkeys, either 1 wrks in this situation; look that up if I'm wrong
This is the most concise thing I have heard Joe say about this situation and I actually appreciated and understand his stance better. I still want them to rap again as one HOUSE tho
Joe is shady as hell. He lacks serious communication skills. All he had to do was make a phone call to Crook and say what he didnt like of the deal.
Congratulations he’s successful manipulated you
@@EndingVisionsI was just commenting to the fact that he finally said something that made some type of sense versus the around the way bullshit he's known to do
At the end of the day the fans wanted the music. Joe don't wanna supply due to retirement and Royce don't wanna supply due to Joe. They should've just gave Crooked and Joell their blessings. The brand should've never stopped bc one retired
or crooked and Joel should of branched off and did they own thing..what they bringing upbthenother members for if it's them two?seem like the role players couldn't carry the team
@@jaystrong5018 whether they branched off or not the people would've still called them Slaughterhouse
Exactly
@@jaystrong5018 To explain to the fans. They need this. We need this bruh
This proves how selfish the other 2 trash ralpin lames were & didn't want the dope niggaz in the group 2 carry on.
Why was fam gargling snot this whole video? 😩😂
Joe Would've a never said SMD if Joell was in the room. You don't say that to a brother you love
He said the album could suck his dick. The way Joelle took that, i felt like he's gone punch joe in the face when he sees him.
@@blackmoneynewmoney yeah i feel you and i think so too,.. And i know he said the album could SMD buy you don't say that to your man's about something that he created. Whether it was too the album or Joell same consequence. He would've been better if just saying i think the album is trash
@@topsouljas1 💯
Budden's cap looks like it's made from carpet outta a trap house💀
So what I’m hearing is Joe wants to fund the project now that he has the funds , but the group doesn’t want him to be “in control” of the decisions (or something along the lines of that) … are yaw hearing that too? 🤔
Joe is an egomaniac. If he’s not in control he wants no partd
The beginning 30 seconds sounds exactly like what Rory and Mal were saying about Joe.
Now I see why Mal keeps his foot on Joe neck. He’s seen even more Narc behavior behind the scenes than we could imagine.
And as long as he benefited from it, it was cool. Funny how that works, huh?
@@cam714602 wtf are you talking about
@@annwallace6000 Joe just suddenly became this? Mal didn’t have a problem with it while he benefitted from Joe’s actions. It only became an issue once he became expendable to Joe. Now he’s this, that and the other. He was that before too.
@@cam714602 Joe always been an arrogant loser, Mal was a friend of his despite everyone in the world saying the same thing about Joe that ever knew him, and then he went and burned that bridge to with his own man so yes now mal has every right to call him on some sucker shit once he crossed the line Joe always been a loser you don’t know what you’re talking about
Dude got on a Kangol truc ker hat wit the strap in the bac lmfao 😆😁😅🤣😂
Slaughterhouse Doesn’t Need Or Belong On A Label. Y’all Just Don’t Like Joe
😂😂😂frfr
Slaughterhouse wasn’t on a label y’all act like you’ve been fans forever. Joe signed that deal with shady before that they did an independent deal with Koch for their first album. They all signed the dotted line álbum didn’t perform then they record a whole second album and then joe just stops
@@ogtripleg Datz Fax Joe left like a chump
@@warnutztheloser Even Joel Admitted It Had “Horrible Business”
It not about liking joe or not, just look at his track record and it will tell you all you need to know it’s really that simple
🗣50k 🥳🥳🥳🥳 Alright Chigs💪🏾
ayeeee lets goo!!! preciate your support always!
Joe is the most confusing person you’ll ever talk too.
It's always confusing listening to a liar
@@jboogie45213 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jboogie45213 I luv this cos it's true🤣
@@lastonewon Real talk 🤣
GET THAT WATER THREE!!!!!! BIG SHIUT OUT TO 3 LETTERMAN FOR THE INTERVIEW.
Joe said to Joell he never said he didn't want to do the deal
Dude, Joe is a fucking drug addict, he’s a nightmare. Crook is the one who brought the deal to the table and Joe didn’t call him back it’s that simple. Joe said that he’d rather finance the album. Who the fuck is going to trust Joe with that? Only a moron. He can’t even answer the phone or call someone back.
@@nolanmendoza43 ,you can't be in the same building as Joe let alone the same room, hell no, because he's going to say some slick sh*t like suck his🍆,the next thing you know the whole gotdamn building is a warzone
@RunningOnEmpty I gotcha g,but in any situation playing around or not, telling another man or person that, smh
@RunningOnEmpty if someone tells something you created with your time and energy smd you gonna be upset?
Damn 3 get the interview and asked lack luster questions....I wish I could have asked questions
But it’s funny how Rory and MAL where out of bounds for asking him questions 🤔funny how tables turn
No, what they’ve all said is they didn’t ask questions when they signed their contracts. They started asking questions after the fact and joes response was. Read your contract, because the contract says you can’t have that information. Is it fucked up? Hell yea, but they signed it. That’s his point. Why would he sign a bad contract? So he’s asking questions now.
Remember last time Joe was on a laptop during a beef? ✊🏾👁️
(Mickey) FACTS lol
@@justadrum He's not talking about Mickey. He's talking about when Raekwons man punched Joe. But that's not the last time Joe has spoke on a beef he was currently in on a laptop. He did the same during the era where he eviscerated Drake.
@@whoknows4379 bro he is quoting what Mickey said Joe said "Mickey" an bro its just a joke. 😂 we all know he had other beefs and maybe a laptop. Just this one was funny
Facts his eye celebrated black history month Dfl🤣
I kinda side with Royce and Joe
Same
The crazy thing is everybody’s right. I’m really starting to believe that especially when it comes to how the individual feels.
Joe said some facts here. Why am I gonna go sign a deal giving up my owenershio when I can fund the project myself. Makes no sense to sign ownership over after we went though that entire situation regarding ownership which Joe constantly preaches
Crooked I likes advance checks. Some artists are just lazy and want that upfront money.
There's no 1 size fits all in regards to business bruh. Its give and take. Its what you want and comfortable with. Joe Clearly isn't comfortable with it how these deals structure. Most others do...because they may go for other more important things. So it is what it is.
Fam its veeery simple. if Im making 10 mil a year and you come to me with a 1mil deal that you glorify, i'm not taking it. Go at me on the socials and imma be polite and say i didn't get to see the details, but on bad day imma say that deal is shit and you're dumb for thinking its legit.
In this ownership deal, where do the other three members fall? There is still a conflict of interest. You're saying HE would fund so who do you think would get the lion share of the sales, etc? That's granted the other three even agree to the terms which would highly favor Joe. Knowing Joe, he would hang that over their heads. He'd end up talking bs about that later too.
@@albertc2390 dude has been very clear about his retirement tho bro. And btw If he's saying he could top the deal shouldn't that be a good thing, you're getting a better deal from family not from some major with fine print in contracts
Joe budden hat choices be killing me 🤣🤣🤣
You would think Joe Budden was a Top 10 MC.... He was decent, but very Egotistical.
Seriously, how can you take anything he says when he literally says, "only Royce and myself can know that not to be true, we've had 30m conversations..."
THAT'S THE ISSUE!!!!!
Joe sounds foolish! When you get into a contract, you will have to share ownership of the music output due to the label providing a budget to make the musc. He cant fool with the slick talk.
It’s not slick talk. He’s saying why share ownership when they have the money/budget to make the music on their own at this point. Even if they didn’t want Joe to fund it solely, they can divvy the costs and not only create the music, but also market and promote it. On the back end, they’ll have 100% ownership of the music which equals 100% of the money generated from it. There’s really no need for a label when it comes to them.
@@joshlockhartnetwork ….if that was his point, they would hv not bn looking for deals. He would hv simply stated what you just stated. Thru the process of them bringing offers, why not just say that? Point is, Joe doesnt want to do it. The fact he is being callef out for most of the reasoning, his feelings are hurt
"..I care about people how doing as humans and men..". Then proceeds in telling Joell to "SMD"... That was out of pocket. Direspectful
He just said he didn’t wanna take the deal. That’s was the point smh
Because…the deal involved giving someone else ownership.
@@cam714602 that’s bullshit. Cause who owns it now. They do. They don’t need a deal they have full ownership. Their looking for a deal. It’s all give an take rather that be 70/30 or 80/20. It’s not gonna be for nothing if your the one looking for a deal. It’s not like back in the day deals. You give them 20 percent for two albums then you get it back after that.
@@cam714602 everyone knows joe budden just being difficult. He has been retired for 5 years.
Ya'll just hate Joe for his past, but why would Royce side with him if ain't making sense.. Like They do own it but them reuniting Crooked wanted to give ownership away
@@beenjane5941 no they don’t. Do you know who Tony Bucher is? I sure don’t. But he owns 1/3 of this album they just put out, after he recoups the advance he gave them. Thats what Joe questioned. Crook admitted that and so did Joell. What does taking that advance entail? Crook got mad when Joe asked the question. Crook is now saying Joe never called him, but the question was asked and it reached Crook.
Yooo chigs if u gone rip threeletterman live give the man some credit his channel on RUclips just got deleted
And I know you don’t have too but it would be dope doe ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
fam this wasn't his live, he joined joe's live while i was already recording his live already. im happy to plug his channel though if he wants
Lmao!!! @ joe asking questions about money and a contract deal!!!🤣🤣🤣 .. He's the new Rory and mal!🤣🤣🤣
Like someone else said, had Rory and Mal done the same. They would have avoided the issues with Joe.
Joe knows a train wreck is something people love to watch and without him being one he has no watchable value. Period.
Royce is the girlfriend that gets beat and still stands by his man 🤣🤣🤣 SMH
Korny a55 joke smmfh. Keyboard Comedian
Joe is NOT sober. You can tell. Royce is enabling him because he’s worried about him. All of this is over Joes fucking ego for not wanting to work under Shady, even though all three other members said that Em and Shady gave them full freedom to do whatever they wanted because he believed in them. Joe has too much pride and it’s destroying him.
joe quit rap and he need the podcast straight up, he violated Joell
I can’t be friends with ppl like this. Once you talk with disrespect, we done.
Joe is promoting the hell out this album 🥰 joes hats gotta go with his wack as attitude though
My man Joe’s hat is ccccrrrraaaaazzzzzyyyyy 😂😂😂😂😂
Joe is a clown diva. Dude has 1 song LMAO
Name one Crooked or Joell song?
Joe catalogue shits on the rest of the other threes and I'm a fan of joell crooked and Royce.
I just want the brothers to fix it and come together.
If Joe said he would rap wtf should he take just any deal when the price went up?
“He’s wearing funny hats” - Mal
Joe not fuly wrong, He approaches it from a business point of view...while Crook and Joell are more on the creative/get things going type energy....even if joe "retired" he still has part ownership of the actual group....I think the one part joe is fully at fault for is the not communicating
Joe literally just said "Crook wanted to take the deal, and Joe didn't"" So now he's admitting he said no to the deal - that's all Joell and Crook were saying wasn't it? Joe didn't wanna do the deal and Royce didn't wanna do anything without Joe. But on the call with Joell Joe called Joell a liar and said he never said no to the deal - now he's admitting he did.
if you listen..he was never given a contract to go over....they told him we can make 100k, if they show'd him the deal then he'd know the full ins and outs...ie what do you have to do for the 100k
@@54dbruno crook said Tell joe to put whatever he wants in the contract and he will get it done but joe never contacted him , not one phone call . Joe was never serious about slaughterhouse, joe retired 10 years ago
It's happens amongst a group of friends
Royce is cool with Joe n Crook
Joel is cool with Crook on Joe
Crook is cool with Royce n Joell
Royce n Joell are not close
Joe n Crook are not close
Good observation. What do you expect in a social media world
I don’t think Royce and crook are that cool. Royce seems to have a problem with Crooks Dick riding of Em.
@@cam714602 sure he does coz he is the ultimate em d rider
What’s crazy is they ain’t say nothing bad about slaughter house it’s more like speaking they truth
Joe dropped a jewel. They'd rather break off the other side than their brother in position to do the same thing
Nah they don't trust Joe with money. Money know not to come at Crooked a certain way.
@@tyarchie5143 why trust the white man? They're going to take the same or a bigger cut than Joe would anyway and they won't even help with making the music. Yall niggas are dumb for pushing this weird ass narrative. Idc if joe wants 80% til he recoup its smarter to do that with a nigga who actually cares about the group because he's in it making the product and performing with you than a fucking suit 😂
@@SpeakHerMusic the white man has a track record or doing exactly what they say they will do and they have a track record of being about doing business. Joe wants people to beg him to participate and due to that recoup most of the money and why would guys like Joel and Crook go for that?
@@kylew2682 royce begs to differ and says he's done bad business with everyone he knows. Again why wouldn't you let your man's who's building the product with you finance it? We don't know how joe would've wanted to recoup but literally anyway he decides even if he hits you with a standard label contact or makes more sense to do it with him than them. You'd have to be stupid to think otherwise. That's like if you're buying a house to flip and your boy says he'll pay for the down payment on the house in full and help fix it with you if he gets half the money and you go rock with the other guy saying he'll pay for it but he won't actually help and he still wants half 😂
Joell, Royce and Joe all agreed on their live that the business at Shady was bad.
You know who doesn’t agree with that and didn’t want off of Shady? You guessed it, Crook! So why would Joe trust Crooks business savvy? Because he owned his publishing while on Death Row?
Joe once told Mal on the podcast that he knew it was his fault Slaughterhouse wasn’t together
Bruh.....That hat...SMH
Joe budden you say you can fund it? Then do it talk is cheap from you 😂 😂 😂
If Joe said I'm retired and Royce indeed said I'm not doing it without Joe....then Joell and Crook should've just dropped a separate project.
This is what i was saying the entire time. They are men, they should go out there and get it done themselves not wine about another dude who clearly told y'all he's not down
They did. And its been 9 years. So now when they finally are out of said deal, he still wants to complain? Man come on, go do your podcast and leave the rappers to rap.
@@denniskamala2250 Exactly!!
@@Jadmonius It seems like he only got involved because he's part owner of the brand. Why tear down your own brand? The rollout just seems shady. They could've done it different.
It should have been totally unrelated to slaughterhouse. Basically slaughterhouse is over, which is where I agree with Joe. Not really that much money in rap, which is why Joe is doing pods. There has been enough evidence that doing business with Joe usually turns out bad, which is something he needs to reflect on, because Joe is for self. Not mad at that mentality, but I think that he projects that it’s about us, which is why others become disgruntled and upset with him.
Again and again and again, why will anybody accept a contract without knowing the details of it ? You just tell me I am going to earn XXX millions and expect me not to
Know the details of the contract and just sign. Come on people !
But that's the thing for Joe it was being independent or total creative control of the project. No record label accepts such idea.
You guys run to Joe interviews to say y’all don’t like Joe 😂😂😂
Or justify what we already know…Joes a bxtch
Hi, is this ur first time on the internet?
@@jrb3202 I generally stay away from things about people I don’t like or care for. Like I don’t rush to stand in the restroom after a person shits to complain about the smell, duhh
@@PocketMr7901Ladray i meant thats what wierdos been doing for the longest on the internet.
I dont get it 2, i guess its probably because they can say whatever without having to face the person in real life
Joe Budden being retired rejects all deals by itself. If he really wanted to rap he would. This is like you taking a female out to dinner a few times, send her good morning texts and buy her gifts then she says you were never interested because it was never on paper. Royce has publicly said he wants no part of a three man group. That ends that. Hoping this is a wrestling angle and these guys join forces again and drop an album. Might as well leak Glasshouse for the fans.
Joe is wrong …go support ur brother album especially if u retiring have stopped there recording opportunities for the last 10 yrs
you want joe to support an album that he got dissed on? what clown shit you u on?
No he still have ownership if they use the Slaughterhouse name.
why Trap he supported drake
You got sheep mentality
Crook is on Twitter everyday and putting out music. His stance for the longest was that he wanted the group back together.