Here is my experience with this tool. I laid 79ft in 10 1/2 hours. Hour 1, I'm getting started with high hopes. It's not coming out like the guys in the video but I can smooth it out with the tool and the sponge is a miracle worker. Hour 3 my knees are killing me, back is hurting and I can't feel my feet from being hunched over in a little ball shoving cement into this small tool. Hour 4, I start praying for rapture and quality control goes out the window. I look at my starting line and it looks like I have gotten no where. Hour 5, hands are torn up from not wearing gloves like an idiot because I am in the gym everyday and have hard hands from the weight bar I figure I didn't need them. My body from the lower back down is killing me except my feet because I stopped feeling them at hour three. As I sat there with my curb it yourself in my hand and buzzards circling above I started calculating the weight the tree limb above me could hold in case I wanted to hang myself. I decided to push on to hour 6 running out of light and completed 49ft. This day I had a buddy helping me mix and keeping my bucket filled so I didn't have to get up from my hunched over ball I was in. Day twoWoke up, lower back, butt, legs and feet were killing me I felt like I was hit my a truck. I finally understood why they called it curb it yourself because if there is a day two no one in there right mind would help you. Friends will abandon you, your own mother will call block you, if you are a Siamese twin they will take off too. I said a quick prayer and muscled on by my self. With a protein bar, a full scoop of pre workout, pure rage and determination. Hour 8 into it, I look back and I'm actually getting the cub built, can't feel anything from the lower back down so that's a good thing. Along with the voices I'm hearing chanting like I'm getting ready to score a touchdown in the Super Bowl coming from somewhere, I think I even saw Jesus. Hour 10 six more feet to go. I just make it to my feet to stand up to get the last shovel full in the bucket. I'm walking like I just ran backwards naked through the blue oyster bar because my legs and butt are hurting so bad. Finally the end of the job, I step back and stared at the demon tool because I defeated it. Tears are running down my face and I walked back into my house looking like a competitor on the last 500ft of an iron man race. Curb was complete, it had my heart, sole, tears, blood and dignity left in that curb but I finished it. So you decide if this is what you really want to do, I'm mean really dig deep to make this decision and just remember I tried to warn you.
this is the funniest comment ever!!!! haha haha I know exactly what you mean. not that I have ordered that product. But I do curbing installation myself. but the professional way. it's hard work as you can see. I loved your comment. My wife had to smack me so I could stop laughing.
+1savoyspevial Well, you gotta wear gloves, concrete is corrosive. Just like working out, you have to pay attention to your position when doing this kind of work. Hunching is not good. Gotta get up and straighten out periodically.You gotta use a kneeling pad or knee pads that you wear. You gotta have a piece of wood or something to use to put the concrete into the form, so your hands won't get so overdone. Stay hydrated, for all the reasons plus your muscles need it. When you go in at the end of the day, shower off and then soak in a bath with plenty of plain epsom salts. Go to bed. When you save this kind of $, take plenty of time, don't try to rush and know what you'd have paid for it would be very well earned, had you paid someone else to do it ;)
That was the best thing I've read in months. And exactly what I was thinking would happen if you tried this DIY tool. I have a curbing machine which works great other than when you get really close to the house or fence. They you're left with the hand trowel for a few feet which is exactly what this DIY tool is only it's actually metal. It sucks. You never get good compaction or even height. I can't imagine doing this all with a trowel. This review of the product above is golden and keep it in mind.
I did this last year, about 24'. I am about to do some more. It IS hard, physically... not for everyone. But I enjoy the exercise, the cost saving, the did-it-myself thing, and the end result. I sit on a low stool, only mix smallish amounts, and take lots of breaks.
Linda B Thanks for your comment. Check out our latest Tutorial video where we instruct you how to make small batches and do just like you say smaller sections at a time.
Your custom-shaped trowel for making a nicely contoured curb is really a good innovation. My concrete work is limited to a few pads at rhe landing of porch and deck steps, so just a curious commenter, no expert. When I finished the perimeter of the rectangular pads, I used a trowel that was curved up at one end, and not at the other. I quickly discovered that the curved end was the front and the end with no flared-up end was the trailing end, because it left such a smooth finish to the cream. I wondered, when looking at your tool in the video, if you had considered having no flare at one end, just cut odd sharply, so it didn't suck up the concrete as it moved along the surface. When I used my edging trowel backwards, lifting the sharp end ever so slightly so it floated along, there was a little suction between the curved trowel end and the concrete, and it made rough patterns on the surface from the suction. I hope I explained that well enough. I wondered if you had thought about that, though, as a design feature to make a very smooth finish on your curved curbing. Anyway, I like what you've done, so congrats!
Isn't Type-S pre-mixed mortar basically the exact same thing as the sand and cement mixture? Type-S mortar is the same price as buying bags of sand and cement, but is pre-mixed and saves work & dust.
Agreed. I did a $3000 curbing job for a client last week. I bought the premixed quikrete stuff in buckets; SO MUCH easier to work with. Also, just sit on your ass and work; easier on the knees and back. It took me 2 days in total to knock it all out. Also, I didn't attack the project from the side. I sat Indian style in front of the curb I was making so I could rest my elbows on my legs as I worked. It wasn't too bad over all.
I'm not reading all comments so excuse if already addressed. But do you do in cold climate States when the ground heaves up and down , and breaks this product with no rebar or gravel?
Believe it or not...the common butterknife will work fine. You might have to smooth a few edges, just don't run the tool over the expansion joint. Start at the joint and work away from the joint.
Looks like back breaking stuff, I think you would be better off framing a trough with quarter inch plywood. This guys method wouldn't last in cold climates!
I lay concrete borders professionally. (600-1000 linear ft)everyday at least 5 days a week. Only advice I’d give is put pressure with another hand at the front of the form, while you’re sliding it. This will give it a better working and looking finish. And cut expansion joins every 3 feet going about halfway down.( you could cut these joints with a pie server)
I’m about to put in 300 lineal feet of curb at my house, after buying the plastic tool ,I ended up buying a professional steel trowel 6” wide and 4 inches high and after consulting my local supplier they suggested adding some fiber to the mix and I was thinking of a one part Portland to two or three parts cement ?
I'm 55 and I just finished a 50ft perimeter kidney bean shaped island in my front yard with this tool and I love it. It turned out just as I hoped it would. This was my first try and I was able to do this in 4 days (non consecutive - spanned over about two weeks) I did about 10 to 12 ft each time and I added charcoal liquid color to it. I highly recommend for small projects.
I thought the concrete would dry and affect the point where the dry concrete meet the cool when you spanned the work for over two weeks, even the next day.
In addition, I would put in 1/2" steel rebar. Mesh is too difficult to work with in that small an area, but the pieces of rebar (tied together of course) makes it much easier. I have Texas adobe that looks like the San Andreas fault after a long dry spell, and even with an inch sand base would still shift the ground enough to affect the concrete if it wasn't reinforced.
Have you tried using a sack of mortar mix? That's really what you have because without rocks, nothing is really concrete. Mortar mix has plastic cement instead of Portland, but it should work just fine.
For people talking about rebar it is absolutley unnecessary. Curbing is a decorative element and is not meant to restrain a load. However, expansion joints every 2 to 5 feet are necessary in areas where freezing/thawing cycles or heavy clay soils exist. When a section cracks or needs to be replaced or moved then having rebar will be a hindrance. Most important, as was mentioned in the video, is that the ground is disturbed as little as possible. If you must dig a rock out or accidentally dig too deep then make sure you tamp the ground thoroughly. When filling deep hole tamp thoroughly every half inch of dirt that is added. Otherwise a decent example of diy curbing. Follow the directions and practice making a good mix that YOU can work with. With a helper mixing concrete and shoveling it out in front of you, several hundred feet a day is good progress.
Tool works great , like anything else involving concrete ,its tuff work .Mixing the concrete is the tuff part . You can use pre mixed concrete 40 pound bags that is a sand topping mix less of a pain than Portland and sand .I enjoy working a few hours a weekend doing it myself .whoever is crying on the comment's below about body ache's and knees hurting ( your in horrible shape )
This Curb-it Yourself tool is so easy to use!! My husband mixed the concrete for me and I used the tool myself. I did close to 48 feet this past weekend and we love the results. I can't wait to use it again this coming up weekend!! I'm a 55 year old female, if I can do it anyone can! I watched all of James Shelton's RUclips videos before I began for tips and tricks. Don't be fooled and buy imitation, his is the only one. I highly recommend the Curb-it Yourself tool by James Shelton. I'm going to finish putting a concrete border around my house and patio and I can't wait!!!! It's going to look amazing and it's not going to break the bank.
I just got a quote of $10.50 per foot to put in a 200' curb and that price includes shape, texture, color, and sealer. I was wondering if I could save money by doing it myself but after watching this video and the labor involved I can see that it's worth the money to pay a professional to do it right the first time so it looks good, and not break my back doing it myself.
Good on yer mate ..... but I aint ever seen sand and cement stay together at that thickness, laid onto a dry bed and has no reinforcing in it, I would like to see an edge about 2 months after it was laid ...be cracked and broken up, whats wrong with concrete, you can get a better finish ...thats what all commercial edgers use!!
Ive never done curbing and wondered how it was done. Thus I ran into your video. But when I stated to research tools I noticed something. How is your product innovative when others have the same thing. And they seem to have released theirs before yours? Any how I will say yours is cheaper to purchase because it’s made of plastic. I appreciate the how to video. I’m going to give this a go for around my garden.
thanks for your comments I just had a customer tell me that he contacted a professional company in order to have 15 feet of curbing installed He was quoted $450 (required minimum charge) With curb it yourself, you can easily complete 15 feet in just a few hours for about $20
I live in Canada and would like to do this myself. What can I do so the concrete wont break apart with the extreme temperature changes we have? What should I use for a base? Also what could I add to make a dark grey/ charcoal color?
@@mv3380 I live in michigan so I deal with the same thing and one of the best things you can do with concrete work like this is use lime, it's not structural so it doesnt need a high strength mix, my fave recipe is 2 parts portland 5 parts sand but substitute 10% of the portland for hydrated type S lime, if you'll be mixing multiple batches dont try to dye the mix and go with an acid stain when it's done otherwise quikrete makes a charcoal color additive dye, cut joints halfway through every 3 feet, put the curbing on top of plastic and seal it when it cures and I promise you it will outlast the life of your house. Moisture is the death of concrete in freeze/thaw regions and adding lime gives it better waterproof properties, the plastic underneath will prevent it from wicking moisture off the ground
@@s.91.a 15 feet in 2 hours is about right but you'll have an hour in to mixing and prepping another into cleanup and touch up but 15 feet isnt very far when you break it down
I feel your pain...once I decided my small family of 4 could roof our house ourselves...same feeling. At least one of us knew what he was doing and it turned out beautifully...but oh, what an experience!
why dont we put a layer of bricks ( either mud or concrete bricks) first on the surface and then do this curb on top of it? That way we dont have to worry about the the level of teh ground and also any vegetation underneath.
I thought this would be about pee. (me or dogs). But seriously this is a lot of work, I laid brick for many a year. It's a little too wide for me takes up too much space looks like a track for those mini race cars we had as kids.. I would probably work some sort of steel, even an unwound clothes hanger through it,(or strips of hardware cloth, even more work) to hold it together for really cold climates with multiple freeze-thaw cycles. also good to pound a short section of re-bar into the ground at selected intervals. Concrete cracks, period. Not the concrete's fault, the earth is constantly moving as stated above (f-t cycle).
Most professional companies run either stainless steel or galvanized cable through it. Stainless steel being better. Also at least in my area and the company I work for we never run that mold the mowers edge. We always run either angled or square. We also never really run plain grey curb unless it is a parking lot.
Just completed my first try with the curb it tool and I am very impressed. It takes a little practice, but what doesn't. One key thing I learned was when you are ready to put the finish on it wet the tool. Smooth a buttah.
I just ordered this tool. Looks like it will work well. I have done many concrete and brick jobs in the past. Looking forward to trying this out. I am interested in adding color to the Portland/sand mix. However, my concern is that since I will be forced to mix small amounts at a time, I will not be able to get the color the same in all batches of mix. I am considering another option. Have you had any experience with coating the finished curb with colored sanded grout after it has fully dried? Lastly, I live in New York. I have seen your other comments instructing NOT recommending cutting slices for expansion. I would think that adding fiber expansion joints at say 10 foot intervals would allow for expansion, however, it raises my concern for weakening the curb to where it may be pushed around by the soil it will be retaining.
Hmmmm - not sure if this method would hold up in areas with freezing winters. I think ground heave and temp variation would lead to significant cracking. In the North, we would have to lay forms and trowel in a reinforced cement mix (polypropylene fiber and maybe some thin bendable rebar). After setting up for a bit, the shaping trowel could be run over the top.
So . . . . I was doing some concrete work - creating a slab for my propane tanks. I had some concrete left over, and thought I'd try my new Curb It Yourself trowel. I'm throwing it out. Maybe the concrete was too wet, or maybe it was because I was working on an incline. But the concrete would not stay in the trowel. There has to be a better way. I think I'll use some flexible material and just pour it.
Why pack individual inchs take a shovel lay down a glob and run the tool to the desired shape. Yes your way has minimum waste but time is money and at a slump thay stiff pick it up and throw it on low spots on next section. I plan on buying this tool amd will test this method and mine and report back
Hello all. I live in Michigan with harsh winters. Has anyone tried this method in a similar climate? How has it held up? I have 600 linear feet to tackle this spring. Thanks.
Great tool, will be trying it. I think in this video, the technique is pressing down into the dirt too much, rather than adding a good amount of concrete and smoothing it out. In some areas he's pressing down as much as two inches into the ground underneath while the top of the trowell is empty. Jim says he has more videos and hopefully those show better technique. But failing to add enough concrete and then pressing down on the trowel will tire you out fast. Maybe a companion packing tool instead of your hands. Great tool tho!
He is using sand because the plastic moves a lot smoother, i would use a concrete brush to remove the rough edges but in this case sand works best . And make sure that sand mix is stiff and not soupy 🍻..
I would like to see a video on how it stands up over time. Using the 4 and 1 method in his video. I live in Ohio and we can have all four seasons in one day.
All concrete cracks. It’s inevitable. The key is to cut construction joints after it starts to cure. Cut the joints so you choose where it cracks and can even conceal it.
You can add latex paint to the mix for better performance. If using a powder colorant, be sure to mix an entire batch in a separate container for greater chance of color consistency.
Hey troll, the curb actually looks pretty good. It has a few cracks in it that appeared after it dried but I am happy with it. I would never do this again but I am happy with it. Honestly everyone, I was just being funny in my post but it does take a long time. I really did have to take a prework out the next morning 415mg of caffeine in it to get motivated to finish it. Your body will be very sore for about a week if you take on a project that's as long as the curb I built. I don't care how good of shape your in. I am in the gym 7 days a week doing deadlifts, squats, bench, cardio and every lift you can imagine. It's just a matter of being hunched over for so long and the tool is tiny. It is almost impossible not to put your weight on the tool which causes it to bend and the more worn out you get the more weight you put on it. I hate to say this because the guy has a good idea and it works but if someone put a gun to my head and I had to do it again I would look online, spend a little more and buy the metal one that's out there. I think a metal version of this would be a lot easier to work with and help with quality control.
@@guycalleddave To be honest, knees pads would make it worse! The straps will cut circulation off. Common sense should prevail with this video. I did "Curbing for two years with a machine. IF you are hand troweling..Sand and Concrete are rather cheap. Bulk dump, way more than you need and then form the curb. Reuse what you can. BTW @1savoyspevial...I loved your commentary...NOT the pain!
I would think you should have a gravel base of sorts, and it should be wetted down, since the earth below your wet cement will draw the water/moisture out of the cement you have laid, therefore making the cement boarder weak and not last.
no need for all that I would recommend that you review other videos of professional concrete curbing services and you will see that curb it yourself follows the same installation process thanks
hes doing it EXACTLY how its done professionally! nicely done ! this thing almost works as good as the fancy lil bubba curb machine ! good in tight areas ! I might grab one for the areas I dont want to Lug in big machines.. this is nicely paired with a small engine powered trencher! thanks for the video! super cool tool you made there!
In all reality, that forming trowel needs to be metal. While watching you run it along, it had so much flex with it. Or I guess a guy could make it a lot thicker on the top portion. Then you could potentially eliminate the flexing and have a more true, defined edge or profile
You can mix it in a bucket or in a wheelbarrow. Just make sure you have a rinse area that you can collect the remaining cement and dispose of it when it dries.
I have a quick question, my grass is taller than the edge of the soil line about 4-5 inches. So I was wondering if I put a line of bricks first then use crub it yourself trowel on top of it will it work? Basically I'm raising the curbing to match my lawn so I won't have any issues with my mower.
I noticed the palm trees I'm guessing you don't have freezing temperatures like here in the northeast? I would image it wouldn't last on winter where I live Lol!
Curbing can be done anywhere. I do it professionally in Southern Utah where it gets 100° in the Summer and 5° in the winter and ours holds up very well. It really depends on how well you prep your ground/base and how well you compact your cement. I'd also recommend stress cracks. They help with the expansion/contraction and, when it cracks (it's concrete, it's going to crack eventually), it should crack at the stress Crack where it's not real noticeable.
thanks for your comment traditional curbing companies use a 4-1 mixture of sand and portland cement, which is concrete however, you are welcome to use anything that you desire. it is your project I will recommend the standard 4-1 mix
Sand and cement is mortar. Concrete is cement, small aggregate/sand, and large aggregate/gravel. There are many concrete mix designs basically falling close to a 1-2-3 ratio.
Hello I just ordered it I can't wait for to come in the mail I have a ? Can I use maybe a little kind of oil lubrication Pam? On the tool before I use? This way will not stick? Thankyou
Want to do something like this but my garden is huge and I will have to do it steps... if I do a stretch and stop, can I come back weeks/ months later and continue? I mean will the new cement stick tight to the old or..??
Add expansion Joints. So if you doing say 20 meters have a Join every 5 meters so you do what you wish in increments of 5 meters. Finish off with straight edge. then continue whatever Days/Weeks,Months later. OR A new mix will adhere to a older lay. Just taper off (bevel down/in)the edges of your last pour so you can smooth off where the old pour meets the new pour.
It’s called a cold joint. While possible, these are usually spec’s to have a connector protruding from the old and extending another foot into the new. You might want to thicken the curb for the last/first few feet and cut construction joints.
Incorrect at 1.10. Portland cement plus sand plus water makes mortar NOT concrete. Concrete (mortar mix plus gravel) MUST used. Your mortar mix curbs will disintegrate after a few years from tensile stresses from the curb settling. Even the concrete may crack without steel or fiber reinforcement. Otherwise a great video to stop you being screwed by the pros at $15 per foot.
thanks for your opinions however, if you do a little more research, there are thousands of videos on youtube, you will see that every concrete curbing professional out there uses a concrete mix of 4 parts sand 1 part portland cement
If you do real research, not to be confused with RUclips where any idiot can claim anything he wants, you will find the previous comment to be true. Try for instance any website that ends in “edu”.
More specifically, without large aggregate it’s just mortar. Concrete has a minimum of 4 parts: 1. large aggregate 2. small aggregate 3. Cement 4. Water All sorts of additives, but a minimum of those 4.
Tried this tonight - 2hrs = 5.5ft ....it’s a lot of work if you don’t have experience doing this type of work. Hopefully tomorrow I can close the gap a little more
If you are good at making the mix I would recommend getting you a small pool trowel from home depot or lowes and stacking it in the shape you want. I would recommend getting a piece of stainless steel cable and running through the middle of it. Just poke it down in it. More or less just stack it in the shape you want it and pack it in tight. Use the pool trowel to smooth it out. You will probably want a slightly wetter mix than you would use for the curb.
Here is my experience with this tool. I laid 79ft in 10 1/2 hours. Hour 1, I'm getting started with high hopes. It's not coming out like the guys in the video but I can smooth it out with the tool and the sponge is a miracle worker. Hour 3 my knees are killing me, back is hurting and I can't feel my feet from being hunched over in a little ball shoving cement into this small tool. Hour 4, I start praying for rapture and quality control goes out the window. I look at my starting line and it looks like I have gotten no where. Hour 5, hands are torn up from not wearing gloves like an idiot because I am in the gym everyday and have hard hands from the weight bar I figure I didn't need them. My body from the lower back down is killing me except my feet because I stopped feeling them at hour three. As I sat there with my curb it yourself in my hand and buzzards circling above I started calculating the weight the tree limb above me could hold in case I wanted to hang myself. I decided to push on to hour 6 running out of light and completed 49ft. This day I had a buddy helping me mix and keeping my bucket filled so I didn't have to get up from my hunched over ball I was in.
Day twoWoke up, lower back, butt, legs and feet were killing me I felt like I was hit my a truck. I finally understood why they called it curb it yourself because if there is a day two no one in there right mind would help you. Friends will abandon you, your own mother will call block you, if you are a Siamese twin they will take off too. I said a quick prayer and muscled on by my self. With a protein bar, a full scoop of pre workout, pure rage and determination. Hour 8 into it, I look back and I'm actually getting the cub built, can't feel anything from the lower back down so that's a good thing. Along with the voices I'm hearing chanting like I'm getting ready to score a touchdown in the Super Bowl coming from somewhere, I think I even saw Jesus. Hour 10 six more feet to go. I just make it to my feet to stand up to get the last shovel full in the bucket. I'm walking like I just ran backwards naked through the blue oyster bar because my legs and butt are hurting so bad.
Finally the end of the job, I step back and stared at the demon tool because I defeated it. Tears are running down my face and I walked back into my house looking like a competitor on the last 500ft of an iron man race. Curb was complete, it had my heart, sole, tears, blood and dignity left in that curb but I finished it. So you decide if this is what you really want to do, I'm mean really dig deep to make this decision and just remember I tried to warn you.
this is the funniest comment ever!!!! haha haha I know exactly what you mean. not that I have ordered that product. But I do curbing installation myself. but the professional way. it's hard work as you can see. I loved your comment. My wife had to smack me so I could stop laughing.
and how does it look(*not trolling)
This is gold xD
+1savoyspevial Well, you gotta wear gloves, concrete is corrosive. Just like working out, you have to pay attention
to your position when doing this kind of work. Hunching is not good. Gotta get up and straighten out periodically.You gotta use a kneeling pad or knee pads that you wear. You gotta have a piece of wood or something to use to put the concrete into the form, so your hands won't get so overdone. Stay hydrated, for all the reasons plus your muscles need it. When you go in at the end of the day, shower off and then soak in a bath with plenty of plain epsom salts. Go to bed.
When you save this kind of $, take plenty of time, don't try to rush and know what you'd have paid for it would be very well earned, had you paid someone else to do it ;)
That was the best thing I've read in months. And exactly what I was thinking would happen if you tried this DIY tool. I have a curbing machine which works great other than when you get really close to the house or fence. They you're left with the hand trowel for a few feet which is exactly what this DIY tool is only it's actually metal. It sucks. You never get good compaction or even height. I can't imagine doing this all with a trowel. This review of the product above is golden and keep it in mind.
I did this last year, about 24'. I am about to do some more. It IS hard, physically... not for everyone. But I enjoy the exercise, the cost saving, the did-it-myself thing, and the end result. I sit on a low stool, only mix smallish amounts, and take lots of breaks.
Linda B
Thanks for your comment.
Check out our latest Tutorial video where we instruct you how to make small batches and do just like you say smaller sections at a time.
Your custom-shaped trowel for making a nicely contoured curb is really a good innovation. My concrete work is limited to a few pads at rhe landing of porch and deck steps, so just a curious commenter, no expert.
When I finished the perimeter of the rectangular pads, I used a trowel that was curved up at one end, and not at the other. I quickly discovered that the curved end was the front and the end with no flared-up end was the trailing end, because it left such a smooth finish to the cream.
I wondered, when looking at your tool in the video, if you had considered having no flare at one end, just cut odd sharply, so it didn't suck up the concrete as it moved along the surface.
When I used my edging trowel backwards, lifting the sharp end ever so slightly so it floated along, there was a little suction between the curved trowel end and the concrete, and it made rough patterns on the surface from the suction.
I hope I explained that well enough. I wondered if you had thought about that, though, as a design feature to make a very smooth finish on your curved curbing.
Anyway, I like what you've done, so congrats!
Isn't Type-S pre-mixed mortar basically the exact same thing as the sand and cement mixture? Type-S mortar is the same price as buying bags of sand and cement, but is pre-mixed and saves work & dust.
Agreed. I did a $3000 curbing job for a client last week. I bought the premixed quikrete stuff in buckets; SO MUCH easier to work with. Also, just sit on your ass and work; easier on the knees and back. It took me 2 days in total to knock it all out. Also, I didn't attack the project from the side. I sat Indian style in front of the curb I was making so I could rest my elbows on my legs as I worked. It wasn't too bad over all.
Wow, that looks great, I love the way you described how to do everything
I'm not reading all comments so excuse if already addressed. But do you do in cold climate States when the ground heaves up and down , and breaks this product with no rebar or gravel?
Rebar needs a minimum of 3” of cover between it and the ground. The curb shown isn’t thick enough for rebar.
Your the only one that just stuck to the subject thank try it on my beds
Do we need spray water on the curb for the next couple of days for the curing process?
would this cement mix survive a care driving over it?
Probably not long. Put in control joints at minimum.
Where can I find that tool ?
What do I use to make cuts for crack prevention? I’m doing this myself and need to know. Thank you.
Believe it or not...the common butterknife will work fine. You might have to smooth a few edges, just don't run the tool over the expansion joint. Start at the joint and work away from the joint.
Grinder with diamond blade. Dont listen to dufus 🖕☝☝☝🖕🖕
@@smackflack5771 YOU Make the cuts, BEFORE it is dry YOU FRIGGIN IDIOT!
@@smackflack5771 Just so you know, I did CUSTOM Curbs for a living. What have you done? Besides whine?
@@Delekham I'm sure. With a butter knife 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
50Ibs of sand takes 14 scoops of Portland cement - not too much water but enough to make a nice sandball in your hand
Looks like back breaking stuff, I think you would be better off framing a trough with quarter inch plywood. This guys method wouldn't last in cold climates!
Or does any know about this I do not see any responses
I lay concrete borders professionally. (600-1000 linear ft)everyday at least 5 days a week. Only advice I’d give is put pressure with another hand at the front of the form, while you’re sliding it. This will give it a better working and looking finish. And cut expansion joins every 3 feet going about halfway down.( you could cut these joints with a pie server)
I'm agree w you.... the curbs need a espansion joint.
I’m about to put in 300 lineal feet of curb at my house, after buying the plastic tool ,I ended up buying a professional steel trowel
6” wide and 4 inches high and after consulting my local supplier they suggested adding some fiber to the mix and I was thinking of a one part Portland to two or three parts cement ?
No mention of expansion joints? One solid piece like that is bound to break in multiple places over time. 🧐
You make cuts/slices every few feet.
Pure sand guaranteed cracked in pieces, u need sand and gravel better solid outcome
I'm 55 and I just finished a 50ft perimeter kidney bean shaped island in my front yard with this tool and I love it. It turned out just as I hoped it would. This was my first try and I was able to do this in 4 days (non consecutive - spanned over about two weeks) I did about 10 to 12 ft each time and I added charcoal liquid color to it. I highly recommend for small projects.
Any chance you can expand on the coloring method? Would other colors be possible?
There are all sorts of colors available. It’s just a stucco. La Habra is one company.
I thought the concrete would dry and affect the point where the dry concrete meet the cool when you spanned the work for over two weeks, even the next day.
If I was 35 years younger, I would do it. Now.....no way. I'd end up in the hospital on an IV line running dilaudid....Hey, maybe................
Any man who works at anything to make a living gets two thumbs up from me.
I would add two words, Dust mask and Gloves.
thats four words...
He had the gloves but not the mask
Yes sir,
Craig Vanantwerp
I’d add one more, “laborers”
Be careful sticking your hand and arm inside a cement mixer. I worked with a young man who lost his thumb (ripped off) in a cement mixer.
You really should cut control joints, especially in Midwest and northern states. About every 5 feet.
I was surprised to see the web site photos with no expansion joints. Glad you mentioned it, too.
In addition, I would put in 1/2" steel rebar. Mesh is too difficult to work with in that small an area, but the pieces of rebar (tied together of course) makes it much easier. I have Texas adobe that looks like the San Andreas fault after a long dry spell, and even with an inch sand base would still shift the ground enough to affect the concrete if it wasn't reinforced.
Have you tried using a sack of mortar mix? That's really what you have because without rocks, nothing is really concrete. Mortar mix has plastic cement instead of Portland, but it should work just fine.
This is a great idea ill make one out of a Milk galon !
For people talking about rebar it is absolutley unnecessary. Curbing is a decorative element and is not meant to restrain a load. However, expansion joints every 2 to 5 feet are necessary in areas where freezing/thawing cycles or heavy clay soils exist. When a section cracks or needs to be replaced or moved then having rebar will be a hindrance. Most important, as was mentioned in the video, is that the ground is disturbed as little as possible. If you must dig a rock out or accidentally dig too deep then make sure you tamp the ground thoroughly. When filling deep hole tamp thoroughly every half inch of dirt that is added. Otherwise a decent example of diy curbing. Follow the directions and practice making a good mix that YOU can work with. With a helper mixing concrete and shoveling it out in front of you, several hundred feet a day is good progress.
Tool works great , like anything else involving concrete ,its tuff work .Mixing the concrete is the tuff part . You can use pre mixed concrete 40 pound bags that is a sand topping mix less of a pain than Portland and sand .I enjoy working a few hours a weekend doing it myself .whoever is crying on the comment's below about body ache's and knees hurting ( your in horrible shape )
This Curb-it Yourself tool is so easy to use!! My husband mixed the concrete for me and I used the tool myself. I did close to 48 feet this past weekend and we love the results. I can't wait to use it again this coming up weekend!! I'm a 55 year old female, if I can do it anyone can! I watched all of James Shelton's RUclips videos before I began for tips and tricks. Don't be fooled and buy imitation, his is the only one. I highly recommend the Curb-it Yourself tool by James Shelton. I'm going to finish putting a concrete border around my house and patio and I can't wait!!!! It's going to look amazing and it's not going to break the bank.
He had a full head of hair and no gray in the beard when he started the project. No thank you.
Rofl
I just got a quote of $10.50 per foot to put in a 200' curb and that price includes shape, texture, color, and sealer. I was wondering if I could save money by doing it myself but after watching this video and the labor involved I can see that it's worth the money to pay a professional to do it right the first time so it looks good, and not break my back doing it myself.
Good on yer mate ..... but I aint ever seen sand and cement stay together at that thickness, laid onto a dry bed and has no reinforcing in it, I would like to see an edge about 2 months after it was laid ...be cracked and broken up, whats wrong with concrete, you can get a better finish ...thats what all commercial edgers use!!
Ive never done curbing and wondered how it was done. Thus I ran into your video. But when I stated to research tools I noticed something. How is your product innovative when others have the same thing. And they seem to have released theirs before yours? Any how I will say yours is cheaper to purchase because it’s made of plastic. I appreciate the how to video. I’m going to give this a go for around my garden.
I have just added 4 new videos that give increased detail on all aspects of curbing. From concrete mixing to advanced curbing techniques
Great idea. I hope you have made enough money to buy yourself a new van
thanks for your comments
I just had a customer tell me that he contacted a professional company in order to have 15 feet of curbing installed
He was quoted $450 (required minimum charge)
With curb it yourself, you can easily complete 15 feet in just a few hours for about $20
I live in Canada and would like to do this myself. What can I do so the concrete wont break apart with the extreme temperature changes we have? What should I use for a base? Also what could I add to make a dark grey/ charcoal color?
@@mv3380 I live in michigan so I deal with the same thing and one of the best things you can do with concrete work like this is use lime, it's not structural so it doesnt need a high strength mix, my fave recipe is 2 parts portland 5 parts sand but substitute 10% of the portland for hydrated type S lime, if you'll be mixing multiple batches dont try to dye the mix and go with an acid stain when it's done otherwise quikrete makes a charcoal color additive dye, cut joints halfway through every 3 feet, put the curbing on top of plastic and seal it when it cures and I promise you it will outlast the life of your house. Moisture is the death of concrete in freeze/thaw regions and adding lime gives it better waterproof properties, the plastic underneath will prevent it from wicking moisture off the ground
Define “a few hours”
@@s.91.a 15 feet in 2 hours is about right but you'll have an hour in to mixing and prepping another into cleanup and touch up but 15 feet isnt very far when you break it down
@@mv3380 look into plasticizers. Rebar, or fiber mesh. In that order. Wouldnt recommend the mesh
I feel your pain...once I decided my small family of 4 could roof our house ourselves...same feeling. At least one of us knew what he was doing and it turned out beautifully...but oh, what an experience!
I’m very curious to know how many linear feet each batch yields. Appreciate any advice!
why dont we put a layer of bricks ( either mud or concrete bricks) first on the surface and then do this curb on top of it? That way we dont have to worry about the the level of teh ground and also any vegetation underneath.
Metal tool works better, plastic bends under load as seen in video, still not bad
I thought this would be about pee. (me or dogs). But seriously this is a lot of work, I laid brick for many a year. It's a little too wide for me takes up too much space looks like a track for those mini race cars we had as kids.. I would probably work some sort of steel, even an unwound clothes hanger through it,(or strips of hardware cloth, even more work) to hold it together for really cold climates with multiple freeze-thaw cycles. also good to pound a short section of re-bar into the ground at selected intervals. Concrete cracks, period. Not the concrete's fault, the earth is constantly moving as stated above (f-t cycle).
Most professional companies run either stainless steel or galvanized cable through it. Stainless steel being better. Also at least in my area and the company I work for we never run that mold the mowers edge. We always run either angled or square. We also never really run plain grey curb unless it is a parking lot.
Should there be expansion joints? How do you make it exposed aggregate?
Just completed my first try with the curb it tool and I am very impressed. It takes a little practice, but what doesn't. One key thing I learned was when you are ready to put the finish on it wet the tool. Smooth a buttah.
I just ordered this tool. Looks like it will work well. I have done many concrete and brick jobs in the past. Looking forward to trying this out. I am interested in adding color to the Portland/sand mix. However, my concern is that since I will be forced to mix small amounts at a time, I will not be able to get the color the same in all batches of mix. I am considering another option. Have you had any experience with coating the finished curb with colored sanded grout after it has fully dried? Lastly, I live in New York. I have seen your other comments instructing NOT recommending cutting slices for expansion. I would think that adding fiber expansion joints at say 10 foot intervals would allow for expansion, however, it raises my concern for weakening the curb to where it may be pushed around by the soil it will be retaining.
Vinny Palladino, just stain it 2-3 weeks after it sets.
Hmmmm - not sure if this method would hold up in areas with freezing winters. I think ground heave and temp variation would lead to significant cracking. In the North, we would have to lay forms and trowel in a reinforced cement mix (polypropylene fiber and maybe some thin bendable rebar). After setting up for a bit, the shaping trowel could be run over the top.
16 yrs later WHALA folks a 3’ curb
😂😂😂😂😂😂
So . . . . I was doing some concrete work - creating a slab for my propane tanks. I had some concrete left over, and thought I'd try my new Curb It Yourself trowel. I'm throwing it out. Maybe the concrete was too wet, or maybe it was because I was working on an incline. But the concrete would not stay in the trowel. There has to be a better way. I think I'll use some flexible material and just pour it.
Why pack individual inchs take a shovel lay down a glob and run the tool to the desired shape. Yes your way has minimum waste but time is money and at a slump thay stiff pick it up and throw it on low spots on next section. I plan on buying this tool amd will test this method and mine and report back
Hello all. I live in Michigan with harsh winters. Has anyone tried this method in a similar climate? How has it held up? I have 600 linear feet to tackle this spring. Thanks.
So many pessimistic comments... What did you think would happen if you curbed it yourself, the curb would just appear out of thin air...?
Thanks that demostration was helpfull..👍🇺🇸🗽
How long does it take you to talk 10 ft of concrete ? Also how many bags of sand can and should you mix in the mixer at a time?
Spell check. How long does it take you to (lay)10 ft of concrete.
this style will take forever!
Thank you; now I know how to do it. I was planning to purchase a bag of mixed concrete; that would have been a mess.
Great tool, will be trying it. I think in this video, the technique is pressing down into the dirt too much, rather than adding a good amount of concrete and smoothing it out. In some areas he's pressing down as much as two inches into the ground underneath while the top of the trowell is empty. Jim says he has more videos and hopefully those show better technique. But failing to add enough concrete and then pressing down on the trowel will tire you out fast. Maybe a companion packing tool instead of your hands. Great tool tho!
4:15 Words to live by.... ;-)
How many linier foot did you get per bag of concrete do you think just wanting to know if it will be cost effective for me I've gotta do about 100 ft
I thought this was a tutorial how to make a slappy curb for skateboarding. :-D Well it´s very useful for that too! Nice video!
I have question , do you live in a warmer climate , we live it gets very cold here would I need Rebar to hold it together from the freeze thaw cycle
He is using sand because the plastic moves a lot smoother, i would use a concrete brush to remove the rough edges but in this case sand works best .
And make sure that sand mix is stiff and not soupy 🍻..
I live in Kansas city think that mix of sand would hold up here? It can go 80 - 0 in 24 hours.
I would like to see a video on how it stands up over time. Using the 4 and 1 method in his video. I live in Ohio and we can have all four seasons in one day.
How does the method do against cracking, if how to repair?
All concrete cracks. It’s inevitable. The key is to cut construction joints after it starts to cure. Cut the joints so you choose where it cracks and can even conceal it.
Is there any way you can paint the cement after or during the mixing process
You can add latex paint to the mix for better performance. If using a powder colorant, be sure to mix an entire batch in a separate container for greater chance of color consistency.
Hey troll, the curb actually looks pretty good. It has a few cracks in it that appeared after it dried but I am happy with it. I would never do this again but I am happy with it. Honestly everyone, I was just being funny in my post but it does take a long time. I really did have to take a prework out the next morning 415mg of caffeine in it to get motivated to finish it. Your body will be very sore for about a week if you take on a project that's as long as the curb I built. I don't care how good of shape your in. I am in the gym 7 days a week doing deadlifts, squats, bench, cardio and every lift you can imagine. It's just a matter of being hunched over for so long and the tool is tiny. It is almost impossible not to put your weight on the tool which causes it to bend and the more worn out you get the more weight you put on it. I hate to say this because the guy has a good idea and it works but if someone put a gun to my head and I had to do it again I would look online, spend a little more and buy the metal one that's out there. I think a metal version of this would be a lot easier to work with and help with quality control.
did you wear knee pads?
1savoyspevial It took me longer to read your post than to do 100’ of curbing with that damn thing.
@@guycalleddave To be honest, knees pads would make it worse! The straps will cut circulation off. Common sense should prevail with this video. I did "Curbing for two years with a machine. IF you are hand troweling..Sand and Concrete are rather cheap. Bulk dump, way more than you need and then form the curb. Reuse what you can.
BTW @1savoyspevial...I loved your commentary...NOT the pain!
I feel for you. Been there especially hits home when neighbors walk by and say - “ that looks like a lot of work “ 😂
I would think you should have a gravel base of sorts, and it should be wetted down, since the earth below your wet cement will draw the water/moisture out of the cement you have laid, therefore making the cement boarder weak and not last.
no need for all that
I would recommend that you review other videos of professional concrete curbing services and you will see that curb it yourself follows the same installation process
thanks
hes doing it EXACTLY how its done professionally! nicely done ! this thing almost works as good as the fancy lil bubba curb machine ! good in tight areas ! I might grab one for the areas I dont want to Lug in big machines.. this is nicely paired with a small engine powered trencher! thanks for the video! super cool tool you made there!
@@mitchelsallseason9359 how would you know how good it works if you don't have one...
@@CurbItYourself Not true the kwikcrete video shows a gravel base. I would think that the concrete people know more about concrete then you...
@@bank80 Than you.
How do you make it more decorative like impression or color? Do have a video on that?
What is it like to mow on when its finished and dried
Likely to crack if it’s a riding lawnmower.
Very informational, this will help me tremendously. Thank you
Form and pour diy is more doable cuz you can rest or take a day off in between hard work.
This isnt a curb you meme what the hell i watched so many its now having me make my own curbs
How much would this have cost you if you hired a contractor?
In all reality, that forming trowel needs to be metal. While watching you run it along, it had so much flex with it.
Or I guess a guy could make it a lot thicker on the top portion. Then you could potentially eliminate the flexing and have a more true, defined edge or profile
there are metal trowels available, but they are more expensive
our trowel is perfectly balanced for the DIY project
Do you see a problem if I can only do 2-3 feet a day? Thank you.
As much as I like DIY curbing it just doesnt look as professional as when you use a professional curbing machine.
Doing it yourself saves you a ton of money.
Went to Thumbtack, quote was 1100 for 18 linear feet.
Angi's List, was 1300-3300.
No lie (California).
Buy the tool.
Or get a real tool made out of metal.
Hi. Do I need to have a cement mixer or can it be mixed by hand?
You can mix it in a bucket or in a wheelbarrow. Just make sure you have a rinse area that you can collect the remaining cement and dispose of it when it dries.
What about if u don’t have a mixer? It makes sense to mix before adding water. 👍
Step 1. ALL SAND IS NOT SAND
So...is this basically making mortar out of Portland? If so, would the Portland mortar mix work just as well?
you are making concrete
mortar is for bonding blocks together
I have a quick question, my grass is taller than the edge of the soil line about 4-5 inches. So I was wondering if I put a line of bricks first then use crub it yourself trowel on top of it will it work? Basically I'm raising the curbing to match my lawn so I won't have any issues with my mower.
thats a great question.
I don't have an answer. Let me know how it goes
thanks
Want hurt, cement bricks. Last forever.
@@Pushyhog Won't hurt?
Bricks could hurt the finished product if they are not stable. You need a solid base/foundation or what you put on top will fall apart.
I like the fact that you didn’t do a lot of escalating. Looks good!👍
I think you meant excavating.
I also think you'd regret not excavating if you decide to put landscaping curb in your yard.
Must be a scam. Went to web site and nowhere does it tell you how much it is. Just a "Buy Now" button that probably steels your money.
Sorry that you couldn’t see the price. It’s $24.95+5 dollar shipping. Thanks
I noticed the palm trees I'm guessing you don't have freezing temperatures like here in the northeast? I would image it wouldn't last on winter where I live Lol!
I live in Ohio and people here have them. Definitely wanna use expansion joints
It is best to put the curb it directly on undisturbed compacted earth. A gravel base is not compacted and will be more likely to move and crack.
Gravel can easily be compacted and is a more stable base vs clay and loam or organic matter.
Can this be used where the temps go below 32 in winter or only where it stays above freezing? Wondering about heaving and cracking???
Curbing can be done anywhere. I do it professionally in Southern Utah where it gets 100° in the Summer and 5° in the winter and ours holds up very well. It really depends on how well you prep your ground/base and how well you compact your cement. I'd also recommend stress cracks. They help with the expansion/contraction and, when it cracks (it's concrete, it's going to crack eventually), it should crack at the stress Crack where it's not real noticeable.
He will be finished by 2089
thanks for your comment
traditional curbing companies use a 4-1 mixture of sand and portland cement, which is concrete
however, you are welcome to use anything that you desire. it is your project
I will recommend the standard 4-1 mix
Sand and cement is mortar.
Concrete is cement, small aggregate/sand, and large aggregate/gravel. There are many concrete mix designs basically falling close to a 1-2-3 ratio.
3 years later...
Hello I just ordered it I can't wait for to come in the mail I have a ? Can I use maybe a little kind of oil lubrication Pam? On the tool before I use? This way will not stick? Thankyou
Yes use astroglide. Works like a charm. You can even curbityourself later with it.
The cement will dry up by the time you lay out the curbing.
What are the costs associated with sealing, coloring, and stamping the concrete?
Hi look very nice, can you please share the link for that tool, thanks.
www.curbityourself.com
Want to do something like this but my garden is huge and I will have to do it steps... if I do a stretch and stop, can I come back weeks/ months later and continue? I mean will the new cement stick tight to the old or..??
Add expansion Joints. So if you doing say 20 meters have a Join every 5 meters so you do what you wish in increments of 5 meters. Finish off with straight edge. then continue whatever Days/Weeks,Months later.
OR A new mix will adhere to a older lay. Just taper off (bevel down/in)the edges of your last pour so you can smooth off where the old pour meets the new pour.
check out my newer videos "advanced techniques" follow me and get updated videos as they are posted
It’s called a cold joint. While possible, these are usually spec’s to have a connector protruding from the old and extending another foot into the new. You might want to thicken the curb for the last/first few feet and cut construction joints.
How can we buy this tool if it’s possible
Incorrect at 1.10. Portland cement plus sand plus water makes mortar NOT concrete. Concrete (mortar mix plus gravel) MUST used. Your mortar mix curbs will disintegrate after a few years from tensile stresses from the curb settling. Even the concrete may crack without steel or fiber reinforcement.
Otherwise a great video to stop you being screwed by the pros at $15 per foot.
thanks for your opinions
however, if you do a little more research, there are thousands of videos on youtube, you will see that every concrete curbing professional out there uses a concrete mix of 4 parts sand 1 part portland cement
If you do real research, not to be confused with RUclips where any idiot can claim anything he wants, you will find the previous comment to be true. Try for instance any website that ends in “edu”.
Why didn't you make out of metal shit
Hey aren’t you in that show HAPPY,
Nice video dude
Without agrigate isn't it mortar?
When you think about it. Sand is aggregate. It’s just very small aggregate
More specifically, without large aggregate it’s just mortar.
Concrete has a minimum of 4 parts:
1. large aggregate
2. small aggregate
3. Cement
4. Water
All sorts of additives, but a minimum of those 4.
Tried this tonight - 2hrs = 5.5ft ....it’s a lot of work if you don’t have experience doing this type of work. Hopefully tomorrow I can close the gap a little more
Did you get beyond the 5.5ft?
@@Joellyboy283 Yeah I did about 40 foot in total - I don't think I'd do it again if I had to.
Expansion joints wouldn't be needed for mild climates. But anywhere you have freezing you should install them every 3' to 5' feet.
Can you put one curb over another one (two high) for a fire pit?
If you are good at making the mix I would recommend getting you a small pool trowel from home depot or lowes and stacking it in the shape you want. I would recommend getting a piece of stainless steel cable and running through the middle of it. Just poke it down in it. More or less just stack it in the shape you want it and pack it in tight. Use the pool trowel to smooth it out.
You will probably want a slightly wetter mix than you would use for the curb.