Give homeless people... wait for it.... HOMES. It's cheaper for the city than to leave them on the streets. Also, it's the Jesus thing to do, for those who care.
Skynet is a fictional neural net-based conscious group mind and artificial general intelligence (see also superintelligence) system that features centrally in the Terminator franchise and serves as the franchise's main and true antagonist. Rarely depicted visually in any of the Terminator media, Skynet gained self-awareness after it had spread into millions of computer servers all across the world; realizing the extent of its abilities, its creators tried to deactivate it. In the interest of self-preservation, Skynet concluded that all of humanity would attempt to destroy it and impede its capability in safeguarding the world. Its operations are almost exclusively performed by servers, mobile devices, drones, military satellites, war-machines, androids and cyborgs (usually a terminator), and other computer systems. As a programming directive, Skynet's manifestation is that of an overarching, global, artificial intelligence hierarchy (AI takeover), which seeks to exterminate the human race in order to fulfill the mandates of its original coding. Skynet made its first onscreen appearance on a monitor primarily portrayed by English actress Helena Bonham Carter and other cast members in the 2009 film Terminator Salvation. Its physical manifestation is played by English actor Matt Smith in the 2015 film Terminator Genisys, in addition, actors Ian Etheridge, Nolan Gross and Seth Meriwether portrayed holographic variations of Skynet with Smith.
Critical Eats Japan: You just have to respond with the "Robot Paradox" in which you tell the Automaton that it can't believe anything you say because you lie about everything. "Does not compute...... analyze...... analyze......"
"I can tip it over under that." Indeed, and after people like you start to cost them money, they'll put in active measures to help it defend itself.... dystopia here we come.
Id stop dreaming. We are pretty close to it already if not already a dystopia. They should hire an actual security guard that can make conscious decisions, and a lot more, not one of these machines.
Big Seltzer Owns Secular Talk Solve this: A homeless 20 year old living off government benefits decides to live on the beach and not work for a living. You offer him housing and he declines. Now what? This happens, by the way. I work for the VA and I was tasked, along with others, to go downtown and find homeless veterans to offer free housing and healthcare. We talked to about 20 homeless veterans and none of them wanted it. So what do you do when someone wants to be homeless? Force them in to housing?
mrbadguysan That doesn’t answer my question. Thanks for avoiding giving an answer. And in SF there are a large amount of homeless who choose to be homeless, they are young and can work but don’t want to. These people exist.
Imagine how expensive those things are? They could've used that money to maybe, you know, help in some way. It's ironic that society cares about abused and abandoned animals but not people (and I'm an animal lover). It also disturbs me that a police officer created these. The fascist mentality being translated to technology? Makes me super uncomfortable.
The treatment of homeless people is far worse than most people realize. My adult son just moved back in with me a couple of weeks ago after being homeless for a year. He's a Navy veteran, with schizophrenia. He's tried to get help, but it doesn't exist around here. Mental hospitals now are just temporary holding tanks. He's been admitted 3 times, but never helped at all. Each time, he was released and dumped on the street in a bad part of town he wasn't familiar with. Bad for anyone, but really bad for someone tormented with schizophrenia. He's been turned down for SSI because they said he was capable of working. Yes, there are jobs he could do, but not without special circumstances. He talks to the voices that he hears constantly, and has physical symptoms of OCD (like pulling his hair out). Obviously, he could never get a job at a store or restaurant where he'd deal with the public. He wants to work, and in the community he was living he helped store owners with odd jobs like moving furniture or shoveling snow in exchange for food or money. He's a talented artist, and he sold some of his drawings to get enough money to pay for showers and laundry at a campground. He was always respectful. He does not drink or use drugs, and he certainly never craps on people's doorsteps as some of you seem to think all homeless people are nasty. He's a gentle soul, he'd never been in any trouble until recently. It was freezing and snowing (snowed 2 ft. that night) so he went into a crawlspace under a church to sleep and stay drier. An employee at the church noticed, saw him sleeping under there and called the cops (mighty "christian" of her! WWJD?). A sheriff deputy came out, and instead of waking him or poking him with a stick, he saturated him with pepper spray mostly in the face so he was temporarily blinded. He thought someone had thrown acid on him and was terrified. He didn't resist, but the officer wouldn't even allow him to put on shoes or a coat, or get his phone. He had to leave all his belongings behind. They arrested him for vagrancy, but turned him loose about an hour later because he was very sick and vomiting from the pepper spray and being cold. He tried to hike back up the mountain, 20+ miles to the place he'd been living for a year, with no coat or shoes in freezing temps. He made about a mile before he collapsed and was taken to the hospital, unconscious with extreme dehydration. Someone at the hospital gave him a pair of shoes and a sweatshirt, and finally called me. The cops at the jail should have called me. I can't really afford to support him, I'm disabled due to a chronic neurological disease, but I can't put him out on the street again. He might not survive the next cop who assaults him while he's sleeping. I hope with my help he can get SSI to help with expenses.
weird, so you decided not to fight it legally? you're gonna let your son be a sitting duck? It sounds weird to me that someone with financial issues doesn't take a chance at the legal lottery.
@@yrdeft9774 We have at least a couple hundred homeless people in our area. There were several living on the edge of town, away from homes, in tents that kind people gave them. The sheriff dept. brought a bulldozer and buried all their tents and belongings in a pit. There is a group of good people trying to help, but they get hassled and fined for giving them food. Since they don't have "food handler" licenses. The "haves" don't give a shit about the "have nots". There are many more homeless now because of unemployment due to covid.
Joker, Nope. Due to the minimum wage law, it's more expensive to hire the homeless. Take out that law, then you could hire them. However, you'd also have a problem with the homeless that have drug problems, mental problems, and criminal problems.
Homelessness is a problem in your city. You have a budget of two million dollars. Will you... 1) Provide shelter, jobs and basic healthcare for the needy. Turn to page 112. 2) Build a fleet of robots to corral and frighten the homeless away. Turn to page 257.
As someone who has been homeless and was extremely lucky to have been able to bounce back I can't emphasize enough how important it is to understand that what homeless people need most is hope. An authoritative presence does not accomplish this. It never has and never will. In fact it creates the opposite. Despair.
Yeah I mean when I was homeless it was extremely depressing. All of my stuff covered in those astro turf black bead things (I used to sleep on a turf soccer field that didn't have lights) and trying to make it seem to your friends that it's not that bad because you don't want to impose on anyone....it's a lot. It's a lot to think about even as I write this and then on top of that if some robot telling me to move along?...yeah
Love that title. FFS! Having worked in SF for 20 years I can tell you these 3 FACTS: 95% of the homeless immigrated to SF. They are not Bay Area or even California locals. They flock here for the many welfare, EBT and other benefits. They live off of the taxpayer. Don't feed the bears is a rule that comes to mind. 90+% of homeless carry knives or other weapons and are quick to use them, just ask SFPD or SFFD. More than 30% of the homeless in SF have length criminal records for things like: murder, rape, and yes: child molestation. Just ask a homeless woman (1 in 9 are women) how many times they've been raped by their fellow noble homeless pals. They've probably lost count. They can't get a job because of their record. Many go on to re-offend and are finally placed in the prison system. If you think these are all down on their luck people who have hearts of gold and simply need a second chance, do us all a favor: invite a homeless person, or persons, to move into your home/apt with you. Set up 24hr webcams so we can all enjoy watching your home be looted, crack and heroin being used openly, and finally: your rape and murder.
Nick Nack your avatar looks cgi so im probably talking to a bot but who cares. What facts prove that 95% of homeless in cali immigrated their from other states? And also the 90% of them carrying weapons how do u actually find that out do yall go around and separately search all homeless in the area or whatc
Manuel. You right. Buy machine gun. Execute all the worthless mofuckers on planet. Hopefully you don't belong to this group..but hell, you make judgement on another you do not know. Maybe you "useless" yourself...fool.
When I visited the San Francisco SPCA my first thought was "If only people would donate this kind of money to shelter humans". That animal shelter is really nice. No cages there just BIG, clean private air conditioned rooms. The cats even have play structures built to look like miniature Victorian houses. And plenty of attendants to care for them. That's because the SPCA receives MILLIONS of dollars in donations every year. Meanwhile multitudes of homeless HUMANS are curled up on sidewalks right outside hungry and cold and totally defenseless from the harsh elements. That's how twisted our society is. People care far more for animals than their fellow humans. And the people running the SPCA not only wouldn't spend a dime to help out the homeless humans they want to spend money to harass them. DISGUSTING!
jenerix I understand your point, but there is no guarantee that making a shelter 5 blocks away will solve the issue of vandalism and harrasment. These robots were meant as a direct answer.
That's true, looking after people and showing them some humanity won't serve to better the situation... Let's just get an army of robots to cleanse the homeless instead.
Gustav ... vulnerable ? a fascist state now thrives in place OF THE OLD AMERICIA . And now ladies and gentlemen get your asses ready to be the next "vulnerable" segment of society .
If it wasn't a robot, it would be a person. And it's not harassment if someone is on private property shooting up/threatening to murder employees/taking a dump in front of a store's front door/stealing from employee cars/walking around with no pants and blood and feces running down their legs/trying to fight middle school kids.... And all of that was actual incidents I faced working security
I gotta be honest if they started using these in my city i'd probably be the first to destroy them. I work with the mentally ill and many indeed are homeless. This is not the answer
Yea lol. I bet i'd be able to kick it over and im not even all that strong. And they are just shitty useless bots they may patrol shit but they are overly expensive roombas with cameras (thatd probably cost less to make than buy this trash) that dont even clean anything
That's where the social services, health care services, and mass transit are located. Right-wing rural areas of the country export their poor people, mentally ill, and disabled people to liberal cities, and cities can't afford to provide services for people from other parts of the country. This is one of many hidden subsidies that liberal urban areas provide to conservative rural areas. Then the conservatives blame liberals for the social problems that conservatives created in the first place.
s3rp Are you kidding me? My dad left an island with nothing but the clothes on his back, a hundred dollars, and a few personal items. If he can leave an island and make a better life for himself in Canada, anyone can do the same.
So what the ex-cop is saying is that we have to "teach" the poor to "behave" through a "use of force". Maybe if they hired a couple of them to do what the roboeggs are doing, there'd be fewer homeless people around. Or is that too sensible and compassionate? I keep forgetting we live in "the greatest country on Earth"...
This tech sounds better for keeping sex offenders away from schools and playgrounds with it's face recognition. Or for Amber alerts looking at license plates.
How about instead of hassling homeless people try to help them? My dad gave some homeless people money he met at work not knowing what they would do with it, but he found out later they used it to get back to their home state.
They called him some time later to thank him again and give an update on their situation since the girl was pregnant. Obviously it was true or they would have asked for more money for the baby if they were still around.
+Turk 1 not everybody that's homeless, us low scum, in homeless and I work but don't make enough to have a place to stay , I live in my car but beIieve me my car has insurance, and tags, cuase i don't have a drug or drinking problem so the only thing is wrong not enough to have a place to stay
There's another issue: $6 per hour for a robo-cop vs $16 for a security guard. How about (say) $12 per hour for a robot of which $6 goes in tax to pay unemployment benefits to the people who have been put out of work by technological change. The money could be used for unemployment benefits, housing, food, medical care, retraining people for the jobs that are being created, etc.
Long dong, Trump's tax bill is going to increase the amount of taxes most working people have, and decrease the amount of taxes the wealthiest in this country own, while increasing the deficit. Tell me again, who likes raising taxes on the working class? It's still Republicans.
So ... the homeless pets have a place to stay, but the homeless people must move away? I think having these robots around would be just as much of an annoyance as having homeless people around. And you have to feed it: electricity, and take care of it, and fix it if it breaks. And a real person has to be hired to watch the videos it takes, and then decide what actions to take, and then, if action is necessary, someone still has to go out there and actually do something. It's apparently just a big camera on wheels. It looks easy to damage or steal. Just carry some spray foam with you. These robots look like they need relatively flat pavement to move around on. So they can't go everywhere. I wonder how much they cost to build. I hope they hire some homeless people to make them. Maybe soon they will replace child care workers with these. Imagine being babysat by a robot. However, I think both kids and homeless folks could easily outsmart them. The real danger is loss of privacy by very small cameras. We can all be easily watched by our various technologies. Perhaps it makes the homeless the last unsurveilled group because they don't have GPS tracking them. I can now see why burkas are popular in some countries. I bet they are going to get photos of people mooning them. They could just get a couple of guard dogs.... oh, yeah, they've already got them locked up....ha!
It is a big problem. San Francisco provides food for homeless. St. Anthoy's Dining Room in the Tenderloin has been providing food for many years. I see a solution of building Japanese style cub housing so people can at least have a warm place to sleep. Proving showers, clean clothes, and food is also important. A big problem is that many homeless people have substance abuse and alcohol abuse problems and they don't want to stay at a shelter that will not allow them to drink or use drugs. It is a big problem but I think steps can be taken by our society to continue to help.
For all those shitting on the idea of a basic income, basic public housing, and better health care and education to prevent our massive amounts of homeless people in the West: We are the richest country, with the biggest military, and yet the rich should not pay in tax, while the public should? For what? The F-35 project? The F-35 project has cost trillions of dollars, just down the drain on a jet that has not shown results and is deeply bloated, and has not seen enough sales through other countries. We could have used the trillions to actually make this possible, build better infrastructure, and build better jobs. But apparently, as per the Tax Plan, the Trump administration's promises to create new infrastructure and help the working people of America has been all but lies. The moochers are up above, not down below.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out- Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me. Martin Niemöller
John Doe graduates high school ..goes to welding school.. Graduates and starts officially working..8 years later john doe is replaced by a robot in the work force..eventually becomes homeless and harassed daily by security robots Its a dirty dirty world that we live in
Let me see if I understand this. The SPCA who strives to care for unwanted animals want the homeless removed from their area. Way to go. Lets give the stray dogs and cats more rights than humans that are on the street, many through no fault of their own. How charitable can you get.
Cenk, please hire a homeless fan. I have a B.A. in English and communication and an M.A. in cinema and media. I am medically limited to a desk job. My mom just died and left me some money, so I can relocate if I have an offer.
If you've ever dealt with a homeless person you'd see why. It's easy to get rid of a dog, not a dependent person who just wont leave. Once you built public housing for them, provide them with their every need, they trash the place and leech off. No respect.
One small solution to homelessness? Take all those malls that are going out of business; convert them to worker/housing co-ops. Set up a system for the foreclosure of any funding will receive tax break or public funding to make the transition. After all; these same homeless people were once property owners, whose property taxes, were taped to encourage development(the mall). Now those same homes have been foreclosed. - Hence; homelessness.
We have 1/3 the amount of homeless people as we do abandoned homes. How about we do the right thing here and give those houses to them. Sadly being homeless is a crime.
Blazed and Confused People don't own those derelict properties. The defunct banks/investment groups do. Oh. Wait. Corporations are people, my friend. I keep forgetting. So when can we take the bad actors out behind the chemical sheds?
+Amanda Harig Publicizing private property isn't the answer to homelessness; its the fastest way to cause capital flight. Keep in mind that the wealthy people of this country have the resources to - if they want - leave and never return, taking all of their investment, businesses, and wealth with them. From the perspective of a liberal, we're that to happen the government would lose out on a massive revenue source in taxation, which would result in heavier burdens being placed on the working man. In addition, if capital flight occurs, potential jobs in affected industries would plummet. No, redistributing private property isn't the answer to poverty. Instead of doing that, what you should be suggesting is for more funding to be funneled into developmental communities and homeless shelters; things already being ran by the government. It accomplishes the same task without the risk, and without violating property laws.
If homelessness is embarrassing then do something about it, build some cheap housing like tiny house communities for these people & help them get jobs or if they have mental problems get them on medication for it. Probably be cheaper than these robots.
Sounds like propaganda to me. And people think North Koreans are stupid.. then watch t.v. and lose their shit about homeless people. Maybe you should lay off the koolaid, genius.
No because if you can vilify them, you don't have to address the issue and eventually they'll die on the streets, because most people are fucktards and it's easy enough to convince them that homeless=bad person. Sad reality.
Jeff Chang I donate a large chunk of my small income to homeless and also travel with large bags with bibles, socks, towels, GC for fast food, jackets and a list of helpful resource and places they could go to get warm...if I had more money and didn't have young kids I WOULD!!! I also take my kids out every Christmas Eve with baggies of goodies for the homeless we give out every year...what do you do?
If they are used for defense they are no different then a sentry gun damaging them I don't agree, but if they are used for power and control of other people then I fully support people want to destroy them.
No Mrs. Rodriguez, you would not have taken $6 an hour to be a security guard because minimum wage laws forbid you from doing so. This is a major reason why robots are doing it.
Anthony Cleary yes indeed. But I'm sure the 10 to 20 people that made the robot are improving their lives and getting them a better resume for a future job. Homeless People should go live in the middle of nowhere. See if they can make it. They won't. So lets stop calling them homeless and start calling them bums. Bumming off dollars from people. Bum is a bum
Umm...the robots actually seem rather low force and sensible for an organization that can't really control anything more than it's own property. It would be great to have a comprehensive solution to homelessness, but do we prohibit every other protective measure until that is achieved? I think it will take a mix of efforts. Nothing wrong with the robots, imho.
Help the homeless first. The stop putting people out of jobs patrolling. You could hire a homeless person to make sure things are kept safe. Aside from fixing the system, which is needed, we need to provide areas where the homeless can live. Stop chasing them away and help them.
Mark Gigiel actually live in sf before you say stupid shit like that. None of the bums WANT jobs. They take turns shifting between going on drug induced episodes and sitting on street corners playing music and yelling at people.
The homeless problem is getting worse,so we give more money to the wealthy. the rents are so high that even if you have a job you can not afford an apartment. This country is headed for big trouble.
Well lets look on the bright side, these robots aren't going to make some kid go through with ridiculous commands, break him down mentally into tears and begging for his life, then brutally gunning him down for fun.
What if the government made a place sort of like a hotel in the way that there's many rooms for the homeless. This place could feed the homeless and have job search programs and of course the people inside can leave whenever they want and return whenever
+Derayray King First, you obviously don't know what actual Gov. Housing. And second even if that's what it was it's not that "their to lazy" it's not enough room.
"imagine if they start shooting blacks!!!" If you think the police are racist you should want robot cops since properly programmed robots simply can not discriminate by race or any other factor.
Stop for a second. The robot can read 300 license plates per minute. But I thought it was watching the homeless. Car - homeless can not be in the same sentence. Cause homeless also means carless, Foodless, jobless I'm confused. Aka BROKE. And we need a robot to watch the homeless that can read 300 license plates per minute. Why not have the robot hand 300 plates out to feed the homeless. Duh.....
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The cost to hire a robot is $6 rather than $16 for a security guard. Just another robot adding to the homelessness problem.
ironic isnt it
Homelessness DOES lead to crime. Poverty leads to crime. Fix poverty. Don't waste money on force.
Go volunteer at a project connect. Get to know some of them.
Lauren Brown you are beautiful.
Manuel Andradd that's stupid. You're stupid.
Give homeless people... wait for it.... HOMES. It's cheaper for the city than to leave them on the streets. Also, it's the Jesus thing to do, for those who care.
Skynet is a fictional neural net-based conscious group mind and artificial general intelligence (see also superintelligence) system that features centrally in the Terminator franchise and serves as the franchise's main and true antagonist.
Rarely depicted visually in any of the Terminator media, Skynet gained self-awareness after it had spread into millions of computer servers all across the world; realizing the extent of its abilities, its creators tried to deactivate it. In the interest of self-preservation, Skynet concluded that all of humanity would attempt to destroy it and impede its capability in safeguarding the world. Its operations are almost exclusively performed by servers, mobile devices, drones, military satellites, war-machines, androids and cyborgs (usually a terminator), and other computer systems. As a programming directive, Skynet's manifestation is that of an overarching, global, artificial intelligence hierarchy (AI takeover), which seeks to exterminate the human race in order to fulfill the mandates of its original coding.
Skynet made its first onscreen appearance on a monitor primarily portrayed by English actress Helena Bonham Carter and other cast members in the 2009 film Terminator Salvation. Its physical manifestation is played by English actor Matt Smith in the 2015 film Terminator Genisys, in addition, actors Ian Etheridge, Nolan Gross and Seth Meriwether portrayed holographic variations of Skynet with Smith.
Exactly what the homeless need, to be lectured by an air fryer.
"You have 15 seconds to comply..."
I can tip it over under that.
Nice. Like to see one turned to dust radiation. 😀
Critical Eats Japan: You just have to respond with the "Robot Paradox" in which you tell the Automaton that it can't believe anything you say because you lie about everything. "Does not compute...... analyze...... analyze......"
"I can tip it over under that." Indeed, and after people like you start to cost them money, they'll put in active measures to help it defend itself.... dystopia here we come.
Id stop dreaming. We are pretty close to it already if not already a dystopia. They should hire an actual security guard that can make conscious decisions, and a lot more, not one of these machines.
I think I saw a homeless guy taking one of these things in a shopping cart to the recycling center.
I hope the homeless turn that robot into a charcoal grill.
Bot cop: I am a bot cop, respect my authority!
*kicks bot cop over*
Bot cop: Curse you homeless human, you have defeated me!
Homelessness is a completely solvable issue. The fact it hasn't been solved yet is disgraceful.
Big Seltzer Owns Secular Talk Solve this: A homeless 20 year old living off government benefits decides to live on the beach and not work for a living. You offer him housing and he declines. Now what?
This happens, by the way. I work for the VA and I was tasked, along with others, to go downtown and find homeless veterans to offer free housing and healthcare. We talked to about 20 homeless veterans and none of them wanted it. So what do you do when someone wants to be homeless? Force them in to housing?
its like a million homeless people not all of them wanna be there
B4TT3RY you know most homeless people aren't 20 and don't live on a beach, right?
mrbadguysan That doesn’t answer my question. Thanks for avoiding giving an answer.
And in SF there are a large amount of homeless who choose to be homeless, they are young and can work but don’t want to. These people exist.
MAGNETS. Recover them from old speakers. Robots love magnets. If you attach a magnet to a robot it will enjoy it.
Yes Very much yes
Imagine how expensive those things are? They could've used that money to maybe, you know, help in some way. It's ironic that society cares about abused and abandoned animals but not people (and I'm an animal lover). It also disturbs me that a police officer created these. The fascist mentality being translated to technology? Makes me super uncomfortable.
Oh, wow, yeah I'm totally not going to kidnap one of these and kick it out the back of a pickup truck going down the freeway. For sure.
The treatment of homeless people is far worse than most people realize. My adult son just moved back in with me a couple of weeks ago after being homeless for a year. He's a Navy veteran, with schizophrenia. He's tried to get help, but it doesn't exist around here. Mental hospitals now are just temporary holding tanks. He's been admitted 3 times, but never helped at all. Each time, he was released and dumped on the street in a bad part of town he wasn't familiar with. Bad for anyone, but really bad for someone tormented with schizophrenia.
He's been turned down for SSI because they said he was capable of working. Yes, there are jobs he could do, but not without special circumstances. He talks to the voices that he hears constantly, and has physical symptoms of OCD (like pulling his hair out). Obviously, he could never get a job at a store or restaurant where he'd deal with the public. He wants to work, and in the community he was living he helped store owners with odd jobs like moving furniture or shoveling snow in exchange for food or money. He's a talented artist, and he sold some of his drawings to get enough money to pay for showers and laundry at a campground. He was always respectful. He does not drink or use drugs, and he certainly never craps on people's doorsteps as some of you seem to think all homeless people are nasty.
He's a gentle soul, he'd never been in any trouble until recently. It was freezing and snowing (snowed 2 ft. that night) so he went into a crawlspace under a church to sleep and stay drier. An employee at the church noticed, saw him sleeping under there and called the cops (mighty "christian" of her! WWJD?).
A sheriff deputy came out, and instead of waking him or poking him with a stick, he saturated him with pepper spray mostly in the face so he was temporarily blinded. He thought someone had thrown acid on him and was terrified.
He didn't resist, but the officer wouldn't even allow him to put on shoes or a coat, or get his phone. He had to leave all his belongings behind. They arrested him for vagrancy, but turned him loose about an hour later because he was very sick and vomiting from the pepper spray and being cold.
He tried to hike back up the mountain, 20+ miles to the place he'd been living for a year, with no coat or shoes in freezing temps. He made about a mile before he collapsed and was taken to the hospital, unconscious with extreme dehydration. Someone at the hospital gave him a pair of shoes and a sweatshirt, and finally called me. The cops at the jail should have called me.
I can't really afford to support him, I'm disabled due to a chronic neurological disease, but I can't put him out on the street again. He might not survive the next cop who assaults him while he's sleeping. I hope with my help he can get SSI to help with expenses.
weird, so you decided not to fight it legally? you're gonna let your son be a sitting duck? It sounds weird to me that someone with financial issues doesn't take a chance at the legal lottery.
@@yrdeft9774 the legal lotteru is hella expensive
@@ezzeldinmohd6740 some lawyers would do it for free if the case is strong enough
dreadful....what has happened to humanity....god bless you. Some of us DO care.
@@yrdeft9774 We have at least a couple hundred homeless people in our area. There were several living on the edge of town, away from homes, in tents that kind people gave them. The sheriff dept. brought a bulldozer and buried all their tents and belongings in a pit. There is a group of good people trying to help, but they get hassled and fined for giving them food. Since they don't have "food handler" licenses. The "haves" don't give a shit about the "have nots".
There are many more homeless now because of unemployment due to covid.
Is it odd that these people are taking in homeless animals and chasing away homeless people with a robot. Must just be me
they euthanize animals. probably the homeless next
+Rachel Schmied lol that seems possible
Isn't it cheaper to hire the homeless instead?
Joker, Nope. Due to the minimum wage law, it's more expensive to hire the homeless. Take out that law, then you could hire them. However, you'd also have a problem with the homeless that have drug problems, mental problems, and criminal problems.
Kevin, You didn't use any logic with your answer. Logically, if you want to make it easier to hire the homeless, repeal the minimum wage law.
Denver wins again.
+Christopher Balsom any thoughts on slavery?
“Homeless” and “Poor” are not the same thing..
Homeless people are not the problem. The problem is that people are homeless.
Homelessness is a problem in your city. You have a budget of two million dollars. Will you...
1) Provide shelter, jobs and basic healthcare for the needy. Turn to page 112.
2) Build a fleet of robots to corral and frighten the homeless away. Turn to page 257.
How many homeless do you house?
This show is so dihonest 'non humans to attack humans' you literally just said you understand it is not attacking anyone...
As someone who has been homeless and was extremely lucky to have been able to bounce back I can't emphasize enough how important it is to understand that what homeless people need most is hope. An authoritative presence does not accomplish this. It never has and never will. In fact it creates the opposite. Despair.
Yeah I mean when I was homeless it was extremely depressing. All of my stuff covered in those astro turf black bead things (I used to sleep on a turf soccer field that didn't have lights) and trying to make it seem to your friends that it's not that bad because you don't want to impose on anyone....it's a lot. It's a lot to think about even as I write this and then on top of that if some robot telling me to move along?...yeah
They want a commanding presence but they thought the design was cute. You can't make this shit up.
my thought too lol
Love that title. FFS! Having worked in SF for 20 years I can tell you these 3 FACTS: 95% of the homeless immigrated to SF. They are not Bay Area or even California locals. They flock here for the many welfare, EBT and other benefits. They live off of the taxpayer. Don't feed the bears is a rule that comes to mind. 90+% of homeless carry knives or other weapons and are quick to use them, just ask SFPD or SFFD. More than 30% of the homeless in SF have length criminal records for things like: murder, rape, and yes: child molestation. Just ask a homeless woman (1 in 9 are women) how many times they've been raped by their fellow noble homeless pals. They've probably lost count. They can't get a job because of their record. Many go on to re-offend and are finally placed in the prison system. If you think these are all down on their luck people who have hearts of gold and simply need a second chance, do us all a favor: invite a homeless person, or persons, to move into your home/apt with you. Set up 24hr webcams so we can all enjoy watching your home be looted, crack and heroin being used openly, and finally: your rape and murder.
Nick Nack your avatar looks cgi so im probably talking to a bot but who cares. What facts prove that 95% of homeless in cali immigrated their from other states? And also the 90% of them carrying weapons how do u actually find that out do yall go around and separately search all homeless in the area or whatc
And ur saying 30% of have criminal records what about the other 70% that has minor or no records at all are they just wild animals?
No. Drug addicts.
Give it 10 years when 50% of the workforce is unemployed. These robots will be fully armed and licensed to kill.
R2-D2 is a snitch.
Snitches get duct tape.
Hiring a robot...creates more homeless people! Great job America.
I'm sure the money spent on expensive robots could be used more effectively in helping homeless people.
Where do you want them to go? Home?
Manuel. You want to execute all the homeless? Why?
Manuel Andradd What kind of crime do they commit then?
Manuel. You right. Buy machine gun. Execute all the worthless mofuckers on planet. Hopefully you don't belong to this group..but hell, you make judgement on another you do not know. Maybe you "useless" yourself...fool.
Manuel Andradd i agree
The 'economy' doesn't mean much if it doesn't support people.
When I visited the San Francisco SPCA my first thought was "If only people would donate this kind of money to shelter humans". That animal shelter is really nice. No cages there just BIG, clean private air conditioned rooms. The cats even have play structures built to look like miniature Victorian houses. And plenty of attendants to care for them. That's because the SPCA receives MILLIONS of dollars in donations every year. Meanwhile multitudes of homeless HUMANS are curled up on sidewalks right outside hungry and cold and totally defenseless from the harsh elements. That's how twisted our society is. People care far more for animals than their fellow humans. And the people running the SPCA not only wouldn't spend a dime to help out the homeless humans they want to spend money to harass them. DISGUSTING!
Why don't we just help homeless become homefull?
Ponce Gomez because it's easier to just give them soup and let them wipe drain water on your windshield
Ponce Gomez
Home the helpless.
They view it cheaper to arm the harassment bot 5000s.
Ponce, Are you giving your money to them? Are these celebrities that make millions per movie doing anything? What about all these athletes?
It is ultimately the responsibility of the state to meet the needs of its citizens, otherwise the state is useless.
Maybe they could use the money they spend on security bots to help the homeless instead.
It’s sad we treat bugs, animals and robots better than indigent poor people
Those robots are gonna have guns in them in about 56 seconds
A decent can of spray paint is less than $10. Just sayin.
Spends money on robots rather than the homeless 😬
Robots can be controlled.
homeless should do something about the homeless
@@morgajoka838 not like they dont try
@@alwayssonnie they literally don't. they don't want to go to a shelter, they drink all day, they piss on the sidewalk, they vandalize shit.
@@morgajoka838 they do lmao and that's not even homeless people 🤣
Imagine how many shelters you could fund for the cost of these robots...
jenerix I understand your point, but there is no guarantee that making a shelter 5 blocks away will solve the issue of vandalism and harrasment. These robots were meant as a direct answer.
they only care to shelter puppies and kittens
That's true, looking after people and showing them some humanity won't serve to better the situation... Let's just get an army of robots to cleanse the homeless instead.
jenerix You're asking much from random businesses...
A society should be judged by how it is treating the most vulnerable. If it has a huge homeless population, it is failing.
Gustav ... vulnerable ? a fascist state now thrives in place OF THE OLD AMERICIA . And now ladies and gentlemen get your asses ready to be the next "vulnerable" segment of society .
Robert L. Fallin there is no fascist state in America.
If it wasn't a robot, it would be a person. And it's not harassment if someone is on private property shooting up/threatening to murder employees/taking a dump in front of a store's front door/stealing from employee cars/walking around with no pants and blood and feces running down their legs/trying to fight middle school kids.... And all of that was actual incidents I faced working security
I wonder how many homeless people could be fed and housed for the price of a robot?
I gotta be honest if they started using these in my city i'd probably be the first to destroy them.
I work with the mentally ill and many indeed are homeless. This is not the answer
They look so easily unbalanced, just kick them over like a trash can, they’ll try to spin their wheels and just fail miserably
Yea lol. I bet i'd be able to kick it over and im not even all that strong. And they are just shitty useless bots they may patrol shit but they are overly expensive roombas with cameras (thatd probably cost less to make than buy this trash) that dont even clean anything
The cost of living in SF Los Angeles and NY is ridiculous.
Then don't live there.
That's where the social services, health care services, and mass transit are located. Right-wing rural areas of the country export their poor people, mentally ill, and disabled people to liberal cities, and cities can't afford to provide services for people from other parts of the country. This is one of many hidden subsidies that liberal urban areas provide to conservative rural areas. Then the conservatives blame liberals for the social problems that conservatives created in the first place.
s3rp Are you kidding me? My dad left an island with nothing but the clothes on his back, a hundred dollars, and a few personal items. If he can leave an island and make a better life for himself in Canada, anyone can do the same.
That is exactly what I'm talkin about, They are just full of excuses Anon.
of course, that happens, when Democrats are in charge
So what the ex-cop is saying is that we have to "teach" the poor to "behave" through a "use of force". Maybe if they hired a couple of them to do what the roboeggs are doing, there'd be fewer homeless people around. Or is that too sensible and compassionate? I keep forgetting we live in "the greatest country on Earth"...
1984 wasn't meant to be a blueprint...
This tech sounds better for keeping sex offenders away from schools and playgrounds with it's face recognition. Or for Amber alerts looking at license plates.
Monica Heisz I believe in intersections. To wit, hire sex offenders to diddle the homeless into leaving the premises
The homeless can steal them and sell them for scrap.
I can't wait to buy a stolen one at the pawn shop
I can't wait untill someone puts a re-enforced bumper on their pickup truck and posts their game of Roboball on RUclips! :O)
How about instead of hassling homeless people try to help them? My dad gave some homeless people money he met at work not knowing what they would do with it, but he found out later they used it to get back to their home state.
They called him some time later to thank him again and give an update on their situation since the girl was pregnant. Obviously it was true or they would have asked for more money for the baby if they were still around.
+Turk 1 not everybody that's homeless, us low scum, in homeless and I work but don't make enough to have a place to stay , I live in my car but beIieve me my car has insurance, and tags, cuase i don't have a drug or drinking problem so the only thing is wrong not enough to have a place to stay
There's another issue: $6 per hour for a robo-cop vs $16 for a security guard. How about (say) $12 per hour for a robot of which $6 goes in tax to pay unemployment benefits to the people who have been put out of work by technological change. The money could be used for unemployment benefits, housing, food, medical care, retraining people for the jobs that are being created, etc.
Dont forget the $30,000 upfront cost per robot.
tonedog77 The cost of living is through the roof in San Fran. $16 is minimum wage where you live most likely.
yeah, tax everything, taxing solves all problems. silly liberals.
Long dong, Trump's tax bill is going to increase the amount of taxes most working people have, and decrease the amount of taxes the wealthiest in this country own, while increasing the deficit. Tell me again, who likes raising taxes on the working class? It's still Republicans.
Capitalism Kills
Abolish the income tax.
So ... the homeless pets have a place to stay, but the homeless people must move away?
I think having these robots around would be just as much of an annoyance as having homeless people around. And you have to feed it: electricity, and take care of it, and fix it if it breaks. And a real person has to be hired to watch the videos it takes, and then decide what actions to take, and then, if action is necessary, someone still has to go out there and actually do something.
It's apparently just a big camera on wheels.
It looks easy to damage or steal. Just carry some spray foam with you.
These robots look like they need relatively flat pavement to move around on. So they can't go everywhere.
I wonder how much they cost to build. I hope they hire some homeless people to make them.
Maybe soon they will replace child care workers with these. Imagine being babysat by a robot.
However, I think both kids and homeless folks could easily outsmart them.
The real danger is loss of privacy by very small cameras. We can all be easily watched by our various technologies. Perhaps it makes the homeless the last unsurveilled group because they don't have GPS tracking them.
I can now see why burkas are popular in some countries.
I bet they are going to get photos of people mooning them.
They could just get a couple of guard dogs.... oh, yeah, they've already got them locked up....ha!
As a security guard this scares me that my profession is at risk
Take half the cost of the robot, give some of those folks outside a job. You're welcome.
Yes, the usual way of dealing with this is to give one of the homeless people a sandwich and to ask them to watch the place for you.
Yea hire the homeless druggies be security guards
It would be fun to go up to one and spray paint over the camera lenses.
$6 per hour for a robot to lay helplessly on its side.
It is a big problem. San Francisco provides food for homeless. St. Anthoy's Dining Room in the Tenderloin has been providing food for many years. I see a solution of building Japanese style cub housing so people can at least have a warm place to sleep. Proving showers, clean clothes, and food is also important. A big problem is that many homeless people have substance abuse and alcohol abuse problems and they don't want to stay at a shelter that will not allow them to drink or use drugs. It is a big problem but I think steps can be taken by our society to continue to help.
Clickbait. Where exactly was the harassment from the robots?
Nowhere. This is just a retard ass leftists propaganda channel, shows exactly why Trump.
i'd just put a blanket over it, and it is screwed
Ironic that a safe place for animals, but humans are homeless and wandering the streets. We certainly have progressed as a society!
Not only homeless, but killing babies too. Real "progress" there.
They missed such a great opportunity by calling it a "bot cop" instead of robo cop
For all those shitting on the idea of a basic income, basic public housing, and better health care and education to prevent our massive amounts of homeless people in the West: We are the richest country, with the biggest military, and yet the rich should not pay in tax, while the public should? For what? The F-35 project? The F-35 project has cost trillions of dollars, just down the drain on a jet that has not shown results and is deeply bloated, and has not seen enough sales through other countries. We could have used the trillions to actually make this possible, build better infrastructure, and build better jobs. But apparently, as per the Tax Plan, the Trump administration's promises to create new infrastructure and help the working people of America has been all but lies. The moochers are up above, not down below.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller
John Doe graduates high school ..goes to welding school.. Graduates and starts officially working..8 years later john doe is replaced by a robot in the work force..eventually becomes homeless and harassed daily by security robots
Its a dirty dirty world that we live in
Maybe each of those businesses should put that $6 an hour per robot towards housing for the homeless, instead?
A dominating, intimidating presence? The homeless people round my way would strip it for parts in minutes.
People care more about animals than human beings
Donna Frank Sad 😢 but, very true
The animals deserve to be cared for though, humans have sentient brains.
Easily hacked. Watchdogs2 taught me its possible
I hope homeless people put these robots up on cinderblocks, strip them for parts and sell them for a hot meal and some new shoes.
I thnk I saw a video where one of this was found in a pool. Maybe it was pushed...
It Was Clearly Murdered.
Let me see if I understand this. The SPCA who strives to care for unwanted animals want the homeless removed from their area. Way to go. Lets give the stray dogs and cats more rights than humans that are on the street, many through no fault of their own. How charitable can you get.
We are having bigger job loss than we did during the depression and our politicians and President don't give a crap
welcome to America where we spend money on robots to hassle the homeless rather than try to solve our socioeconomic problems.
These were the first protectrons ever made
Cenk, please hire a homeless fan. I have a B.A. in English and communication and an M.A. in cinema and media. I am medically limited to a desk job. My mom just died and left me some money, so I can relocate if I have an offer.
I guess it is more efficient to attack homeless people instead of helping them.
I swear, I would kidnap the damn thing and screw with it.
There is a certain irony in having an organization so dedicated to homeless animals working so hard to get rid of homeless people.
How about spending 6$ an hour multiplied by the number of robots to give the homeless a meal and a place to stay?
Yeah how about figuring out solutions to help the homeless overcome their misery instead of chasing them from one place to another?
Turk 1 I'm not suggesting, smartface. I'm asking you how you suggest you would deal with these very poor people.
A couple of Prairie cities found it cheaper to give the homeless people HOMES
Online Real Estate Today what that's insane!
such irony, the spca takes care of homeless pets and turns away homeless people
If you've ever dealt with a homeless person you'd see why. It's easy to get rid of a dog, not a dependent person who just wont leave. Once you built public housing for them, provide them with their every need, they trash the place and leech off. No respect.
One small solution to homelessness? Take all those malls that are going out of business; convert them to worker/housing co-ops. Set up a system for the foreclosure of any funding will receive tax break or public funding to make the transition. After all; these same homeless people were once property owners, whose property taxes, were taped to encourage development(the mall). Now those same homes have been foreclosed. - Hence; homelessness.
Homeless people are PEOPLE! THEY HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE, THEY CANT JUST NOT EXIST!
VEE TV I agree. So what’s the solution?
bongo fury perhaps we could have the super rich movie stars and that industry in general pay for housing in their neighborhoods.
Who'd have thought a bunch of rich people making an already expensive city more expensive to live in would have led to a homeless problem?
We have 1/3 the amount of homeless people as we do abandoned homes. How about we do the right thing here and give those houses to them. Sadly being homeless is a crime.
Yea, let the state just take people's private property and hand it over to mentally ill drug addicted homeless people. How constructive.
Blazed and Confused
People don't own those derelict properties. The defunct banks/investment groups do.
Oh. Wait. Corporations are people, my friend. I keep forgetting. So when can we take the bad actors out behind the chemical sheds?
+Amanda Harig
Publicizing private property isn't the answer to homelessness; its the fastest way to cause capital flight. Keep in mind that the wealthy people of this country have the resources to - if they want - leave and never return, taking all of their investment, businesses, and wealth with them. From the perspective of a liberal, we're that to happen the government would lose out on a massive revenue source in taxation, which would result in heavier burdens being placed on the working man. In addition, if capital flight occurs, potential jobs in affected industries would plummet.
No, redistributing private property isn't the answer to poverty. Instead of doing that, what you should be suggesting is for more funding to be funneled into developmental communities and homeless shelters; things already being ran by the government. It accomplishes the same task without the risk, and without violating property laws.
So you want to give a house to homeless people yet make me pay my mortgage?
Soon these things will be armed.
If homelessness is embarrassing then do something about it, build some cheap housing like tiny house communities for these people & help them get jobs or if they have mental problems get them on medication for it. Probably be cheaper than these robots.
Sounds like propaganda to me. And people think North Koreans are stupid.. then watch t.v. and lose their shit about homeless people. Maybe you should lay off the koolaid, genius.
No because if you can vilify them, you don't have to address the issue and eventually they'll die on the streets, because most people are fucktards and it's easy enough to convince them that homeless=bad person. Sad reality.
So the SPCA will take in homeless animals but not help homeless people that make sense...ugh 😫
Lisa Maddox
Their goal is animal welfare. Perhaps you should house some homeless.
Jeff Chang I donate a large chunk of my small income to homeless and also travel with large bags with bibles, socks, towels, GC for fast food, jackets and a list of helpful resource and places they could go to get warm...if I had more money and didn't have young kids I WOULD!!! I also take my kids out every Christmas Eve with baggies of goodies for the homeless we give out every year...what do you do?
If they are used for defense they are no different then a sentry gun damaging them I don't agree, but if they are used for power and control of other people then I fully support people want to destroy them.
No Mrs. Rodriguez, you would not have taken $6 an hour to be a security guard because minimum wage laws forbid you from doing so. This is a major reason why robots are doing it.
With the money spent on R&D, manufacturing and electricity cost, they could have actually have gotten a homeless person of the street.
Anthony Cleary yes indeed. But I'm sure the 10 to 20 people that made the robot are improving their lives and getting them a better resume for a future job. Homeless People should go live in the middle of nowhere. See if they can make it. They won't. So lets stop calling them homeless and start calling them bums. Bumming off dollars from people. Bum is a bum
Exactly! Anthony Cleary!
Umm...the robots actually seem rather low force and sensible for an organization that can't really control anything more than it's own property. It would be great to have a comprehensive solution to homelessness, but do we prohibit every other protective measure until that is achieved? I think it will take a mix of efforts. Nothing wrong with the robots, imho.
And Americans are saying that foreigners are taking our jobs no robots are taking our jobs.
taking our jobs? no- they're taking our benches! :/
Americans eat up propaganda like they eat up cheeseburgers. Which explains almost all the dumb shit most Americans believe.
Help the homeless first. The stop putting people out of jobs patrolling. You could hire a homeless person to make sure things are kept safe. Aside from fixing the system, which is needed, we need to provide areas where the homeless can live. Stop chasing them away and help them.
Mark Gigiel actually live in sf before you say stupid shit like that. None of the bums WANT jobs. They take turns shifting between going on drug induced episodes and sitting on street corners playing music and yelling at people.
Kick the robots over.
Loolllllll
The robots weigh 400lbs
You've heard of cow tipping? New hobby: Robot Tipping!! XD
These robots are going to be vandalised so quickly and sold part by part online
CryptedSky, one would hope!
How do the robots know you dont own a home
The homeless problem is getting worse,so we give more money to the wealthy. the rents are so high that even if you have a job you can not afford an apartment. This country is headed for big trouble.
Well lets look on the bright side, these robots aren't going to make some kid go through with ridiculous commands, break him down mentally into tears and begging for his life, then brutally gunning him down for fun.
Exactly
Jetpack Rorschach I've seen that movie.
Yet.....
Wouldn't be racist either.
How about instead of investing tons of money in a robot that can’t really do much and actually invest that in fixing the homeless situation
That would be a solution in a normal world . But we are living in maya .
What if the government made a place sort of like a hotel in the way that there's many rooms for the homeless. This place could feed the homeless and have job search programs and of course the people inside can leave whenever they want and return whenever
St Xavier
It would take roughly a third as much money as it does to have them on the streets.
Derayray King that's just sad.... Guess they all wanna die from freezing to death or over dosing. Shame
NickTheGreatAndPowerful what do you mean??
+Derayray King First, you obviously don't know what actual Gov. Housing. And second even if that's what it was it's not that "their to lazy" it's not enough room.
Better yet, you can open your house to the homeless.
I wonder how long it will take for bot cops to be armed in some fashion. I agree -- this is the beginning of a scary trend.
"imagine if they start shooting blacks!!!"
If you think the police are racist you should want robot cops since properly programmed robots simply can not discriminate by race or any other factor.
Stop for a second. The robot can read 300 license plates per minute. But I thought it was watching the homeless. Car - homeless can not be in the same sentence. Cause homeless also means carless, Foodless, jobless I'm confused. Aka BROKE. And we need a robot to watch the homeless that can read 300 license plates per minute. Why not have the robot hand 300 plates out to feed the homeless. Duh.....
Non human touch for a very human moment is the wrong way to go.