Retired FAM. A couple of things. We don’t use a fancy rig like that. Qualifications are from the 1, 7, 15 and 25 yard line. We also have to shoot one hand, using your strong hand and your week hand. The course you’re showing is just one of the many, but it is not the qualification course.
That’s pretty cool. All of you guys are pretty good. I’ve heard the air marshal standards are the toughest as well. They seem pretty doable for any competition shooters and the avid enthusiast. Not your casual shooter though. Most people don’t realize how hard pistols are to shoot. It’s fun as shit once you figure it out
I don't know if they allow full size Glock 34's, with comps, and with red dot sights though (and other modifications - stipples, triggers, etc...). Sure, it's 95% the shooter, but those mods certainly do help.
@@anonypersona3189 They don't. This video is complete bs. Its like filming yourself with training wheels and then titling it riding a bike. Attachments are a massive advantage in any test you should be able to do the test cold with no attachments. That's the Air Marshal standard. But then these guys couldn't look cool and play dress up for this video.
@@JesusChrist2000BC you do realize this video was meant to be funny. They obviously aren't taking it seriously if you actually watch the video. Calm down tough guy
@@Tier1Concealed yes please keep doing these. Maybe compare old standards to new. Also maybe like some standards of other countries police, military, sf and so on.
@@preston6618 Thats really not the point. They arent Air Marshalls. This just gives us an idea of what they are or should be capable. Also gives us a fun way to test ourselves.
I’ve seen a FAM shooting in a Blackwater Tactical Pistol Course. He was damn good with his SIG P-229 in .357 SIG using iron sights. No red dots back then…
I shoot IDPA matches with a former air marshal, he is a older guy but still a very good shooter. Thumbs up to all you guys for running this standard cold. You could have shot it until your scores were all high and passing !
When I shoot matches we had an FBI agent. His times were not considered fast and did just 'ok' in final scores but I did like his style and it got me to thinking of the real use of matches even though I'd beat him. Hit hits were precise and because we all knew we had to push the speed and still get decent hits, they were not as accurate. So I don't know, are hits not as precise but fast better than precise hits done slower in real life? Even a shoulder hit is not exactly doing nothing in real life. Maybe that was enough to change the whole situation compared to a slower hit more precisely. All I do know is I changed that I never wanted a miss. I wished the rules were that if you ever missed, you zeroed out the stage.
I'd love to see you do this with iron sites. 😁 Not sure if you have (but doesn't look like it) Try putting some weight in the right pocket of your blazer, a set of keys or a small wallet so when you throw the blazer, the weight takes it up and round your back giving you a better chance of a clean draw every time. Nice vid 👍🏼
Very good tip as many don’t even think about this. It’s a very good habit just having your keys in your pocket on the side of the gun. Can’t tell you how many times I see guys struggle trying to draw from under garments!
Guys that was FKN awesome! Loving the video game character touch to the shooting standard, lol! That was a instant classic keep killing it boys & stay safe!
You guys make some great gear. Didn’t know you had a channel. I’ve featured your Aegis holsters in a few of my videos. I think I’m up to 7 now. Ugh. Stay safe out there.
I always enjoy seeing new types of standards and drills being shot. Your content provides lots of drills that can be incorporated in our own training. I was at a point where just shooting to improve or maintenance time was becoming a drag. The other thing besides a good sense of humor to your content is your willingness to shoot honestly in your videos. I enjoy the team working together to keeping things challenging, real and also fun! P. S. The answer to the hair thing is, don’t ever do that again, 😂! Just kidding! Love you guys!
@@robertbraden461 HOA president of a rural private subdivision here. For me it wasn't an academy but having 50 acres to be able to practice on everyday. And I'd be glad to replace the jokes we have for Feds these days.
This is a great video! Those standards are tougher than most law enforcement standards are. Great shooting and the reverb acoustics of the shot sounds on that range are really cool.👍
Love the Spara holster. I run that set up with a double mag carrier from you guys under a suit every week. Axis Elite when I’m dressed casually, Spara when I’m dressed up. Definitely a lot harder to get to the range all dressed up, but I get my dry practice reps in. Shooting in a tailored suit is not easy if there’s no stretch.
Fun video, I think you should all repeat the test with either a stock P229 or a stock G19 and the same consistent holster/mag carrier. Just for fun. But obviously, the skill verification is perfectly valid with your own personal carry choices.
I forwarded this video to a friend who is a FAM , this was his response. “ Lmmfao Didn’t even watch the full video…. Not even remotely accurate or close to the truth. “
@@jasonweekley2612 The qual we shot at Massad Ayoob’s MAG40 class was at 4 distances (4, 7, 10 and 14 yards if memory serves) and included shooting with the weak as well as strong hand, shooting from a variety of stances and positions (kneeling, etc.) and with one or two reloads in a shot sequence. Each phase had a time limit, but it was quite generous being the entry level course.
This is the TPC, tactical pistol course, which hasn't been shot for FAMS qualifications in nearly two decades. Also, the target is wrong. It should be horizontally longer. This course was shot in .357 Sig without optics and definitely with no compensator.
@@Tier1Concealed I will. One more anecdote. Guys had to shoot this course for their job running the P229 in .357 at Atlantic City outside in the winter of 2001. No gloves because "you won't be wearing gloves on the plane"
You guys did a great job with your shooting skills, and the creativity behind the video production. The video game avatar-like intro and outro to the team was a fantastic touch. Awesome shooting too by you guys. I aspire to being able to successfully shoot and pass that qualification with iron sights, cold, as well.
This is definitely one of the harder qualifications!! I’m shocked anybody passed Lol 😂 I get it, you’re the ONLY gun on the plane so it’s perfection or nothing!!
Although I’m a jeans and tshirt kind of guy,🤣I must say u guys cleaned up and look sharp.🙂Love your shooting vids and close friendship among each other. I’ve learned a thing or two from your channel. Rock on guys!🤙🏽
Nice entertaining shooting display, but Sky Marshals don't carry the pistols you guys used for the demonstration (they probably wish they could). Last year they transitioned from the issued Sig Sauer P229 to the Glock 19 Gen 5. Fun to watch, anyway 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@mcy2phil that's what I meant by Sky Marshals don't use the pistols (highly accessorized) that the guys in the video used. Moreover, Sky Marshals wear inconspicuous casual plain clothes. Fun stuff.
Well this actually looks pretty hard compared to other lawfficer standards I’ve seen. Also your hair is somehow Offputting. Ps how does buddy like the type B ? Thanks.
Something I just learned is, In early 2020, the Federal Air Marshal Service announced the agency will be transitioning to the Glock 19 Gen 5 9mm handgun and awarded Sig Sauer the contract for ammunition. I'd be curious if they will allow them to run the RMR on them as well. It makes sense.
I was about to add that the gen 5 glock 19 is the standard issued firearm. I believe Iron sights are also the only thing permitted but could have gotten misinformation.
when I was at FLETC I talked with a marshal. he seemed pretty cocky about his shooting "in a tube" (airplane), so I assume he didn't miss much if any on these tests.
I don’t know if you guys missed it, but there’s a standard where you shoot 2 shots with your strong hand, reload from slide, switch over to your weak hand, fire 6 shots one handed under 10 seconds. Correct me if I’m wrong.
I shot the current FBI Qual at Tom Givens Rangemaster course…I would say it’s a good medium difficulty Qual standard. Shot with a G22 and Holosun 407c.
The first guy shot a 1.67 and a 1.66. He is done. He doesn’t get to go to the second stage! Then he was off on the rhythm drill because the time between two of his shots was off so that’s another fail.
They were starting to move before the beep went off. Setting it to a random start time like anywhere between 1 and 4 seconds doesn't let you anticipate when it's going to beep. I have the same timer, and that's how mine is set. They were gaming the drills.
No optic 357 229 now G19… when I started we did shoot the TPC for qualifying (yes I’m old now and retired for 2 years) you either passed or you didn’t fly… most good offices shoot this course (and many other stress oriented courses of fire) to keep people sharp every now and then but it’s not a qualification course any longer… personally I loved the TPC it puts small fraction of the stress (time) you will encounter if the SHTF… (remember a gun fight, an aircraft is a bad day for everyone).
Nope not when they fly, everything has to be well concealed. I know several active ones now and none wear suits either. They just look like average dudes.
@@Tier1Concealed during a dark period under abysmal leadership they did in fact require the suits. Looked about right to me. Milt Sparks VM2 was one popular choice but now most run things like JM custom. But it’s a personal choice within reason.
Air Marshals dress in plain street casual clothes in order to blend in with the passengers. Hair styles and facial hair are completely up to the individual Marshal for the same reason. Ideally, you shouldn't be able to spot the Air Marshal in the mix of passengers.
Hmm, I was on a flight from Atlanta a few years ago, the plane was delayed from departing when a guy came on board, announced to me that he was an Air Marshal and promptly arrested the passenger sitting right next to me! I had been 1 character out with my seat reference. The AM must have realised from a photo/description I wasn't the felon. The AM was wearing a very expensive looking suit whilst the rest of us passengers were wearing std. issue Florida cargo shorts, trainers and t-shirts.
This needs to be done with a sub-compact pistol. I reommend the BUL Armoy SAS Viper with muzzle break. Those are supposed to be Oakley Sunglas. Add more black velcro to everything, but that hair-gel is perfect! Keep up the Great Work! For real, good audience to recruit from also. Alot of aviation lovers on RUclips.
I know. I only got to shoot it 3 or 4 times in training. I really wish they would have kept it. It caused alot of controversy between FAMS when they got rid of it. The FAMS that were required to shoot it gave the newer FAMS a bunch of crap because they didn't have to qual with it.
Please rerun this with a bone stock Sig P250 or P229 as these seem to be the standard issue (according to google🤪). Your custom triggers, RMRs etc. you all shoot really well and each of you are super comfortable with your own guns and setups. Having said that you guys shoot amazingly well, i cant do that with my EDC! But thanks to this video i will be incorporating some of these drills in my training. Maybe even a little friendly competition with some mates at the range!
These guys completed the challenge with a stock G19 in very shitty weather. Well done guys! See it here ruclips.net/video/3m26uGpbxjg/видео.html very good shooting!
Well, you guys aren't bad but I also know an Air Marshal and most don't use tricked out pistols and a lot use iron sights. And, I know it doesn't say it on the FAM course sheet, but at Stage 4, they load one round so the slide locks, the load the second mag and send the slide forward. Really difficult to make that time.
Solid video and shooting, thanks guys. I'm pleasantly surprised to see that the quals actually aren't super easy. Keep up the good work fellas. Axis Slim FTW!
When flying Delta, you wear sweatpants or you stick out.. You really need to shoot into a backstop (not the mtn) almost every shot is ricocheting off the ground.
@eedd sdsd I agree that the "large hill" would catch the ricochets, but geebeaux is correct in that there were many. you can hear them clearly as they spiral up out of the dirt.
Cool video. Iron sights would have been more realistic since Marshall’s don’t carry optics and all the bells and whistles. Until very recently they also carried .357 Sig.
@@angelobartolomeu5679 yeah no problem. Those are Streamlight Pistol mounted lights. They are flush fitting with the G19. Just RUclips it and it’ll show you what they look like. If you have any issues let me know!
@@andrewgreiner4681 people act like the dots all of a sudden make you good to. They just enhance your skills, if you suck without a dot you’ll suck with one. I’m sure these guys would have no issues doing this test with irons, or “plain open sights” as this gentleman refers to them as.
my Markman qualification shoot, you start off from 25 feet prone, 20 feet kneeing, 15 feet standing, with barricade then kneeing barricade down to 10 feet standing, then 7 feet right hand and quick change to the left hand. then 3 feet quick shoot full mag and mag change.
@@TokyotimTech Brilliant response, I will get right on that..... Offer something intellectual next time, i'm sure the others will enjoy your witty banter.
This doesn’t look any harder than the AZ armed guard qualifier. The AZ armed guard qualifier has a lot more reloads and a lot more drawing from the holster. AZDPS is the one that comes up with the AZ armed guard qualifier
Hahahahah okay. Arizona Armed Guard training is 16hrs total. The firearms qual is shooting on a NRA-TQ15 target which is a human sized target. From the draw at the 7 yard line you have 8 seconds to fire 3 rounds. Compare that to these guys who have 1.5 seconds from the draw to shoot 2. It’s not even comparable. Tell me you applied to be a cop and got denied without telling me.
@@NorthernBuffalo. Don’t know what AZ armed guard range qualifier you took but that’s not what I did nor have I wanted to or failed at becoming a law enforcement officer. Got nothing against them but never had the desire to be on the street making arrests.
@@NorthernBuffalo. Not only did you not describe the range qualifications for the az armed guard course you didn’t factor in any additional qualifications specific companies will require. The company I work for made us do a lot more than what’s required from AZdps.
Great job guys 👍🏽 Thanks for giving me the standard test, I've been doing it all wrong. I've been training to hit an outline of my driver's license at that distance for time a did pretty good. Now I can use a slightly larger target. Great work and thank you so much, this will help me with the few misses I've had. Mad props to you guys👍🏽
In the infantry where I was we outlined dip cans for rifles and paper plates for the saws practice makes perfect it was necessary in Bagdad 07-09 zero civilians casualties for my company
@@venivinivinci thank you for your service and doing an Awesome job. My brother is a Marine retired and he helped me become good many years ago and it just stuck with me. It's a great method for training, keep up the great work 👍🏽🙏🏽
lol he’s just throwing out sons bait for someone to talk bad about the SRO. Great optic and nothing wrong with it… not my first choice but then again neither is the glock so oh well.
The last real Air Marshal I saw on a flight was wearing jeans and athletic shoes and a sweatshirt and had a backpack. He looked more like a grad student than an operator.
Air marshal's don't qualify with or carry optics on their service weapons and don't use competition firearms or ported barrels. Although you guys are doing great I'd like to see you guys run iron sights straight out of the box like the Air Marshal's do. Not because I want to see you guys fail, actually i think you'd do well but you aren't playing by the same standards.
Nope they were using Sig compacts(can’t remember the mode) Chambered in .357 Sig. I believe they changed over to Glock 19s and the 9mm this past summer.
@@meirmarcus6461 I have a family members that’s a Marshall. I know several others through him and have shit local competitions within the same squad. They are all fantastic shooters. I can forward this to my family member and see what he says if he chooses to watch it.
Last duty gun I've found is the sig p250 compact in 357 sig. But like he said they might have changed over just can't confirm that. But with family in the service he can.
Shoot it with air marshall issued sidearms. Not to dis your video because it was really good but just to point out that they have a very limited choice of pistols and they dont have any aftermarket stuff to make it easier.
Dude I think they were just running the tests with w.e they carry, or w.e they think an air marshall should carry (all a guess by the way, I didn't talk to these guys), so yeah I don't think they wanted to replicate an exact air marshall qualification, otherwise why not just ask to go and actually try it lol, don't assume, and they mentioned in the beginning that they basically set up what they think is best..
I remember my rangemaster at Brinks Inc, in Los Angeles CA trained us to never EVER look down to holster Ur sidearm. I never asked but always assumed it was that split second of looking down that the bad guy can get the jump on us than rob us. So we trained in walking to a outdated retired armored truck and holstering as we are walking with never looking down, but always looking around as you holster once Ur at the truck to then pull key and open side door then inter...Our RM was a retired D.I. from Camp Pendleton in Oceanside CA, some said it was his years of demanding perfection so it looked more professional. But now as I think more about it after watching this video than writing a comment, I think it was both for safety and looking professional....
Retired FAM. A couple of things. We don’t use a fancy rig like that. Qualifications are from the 1, 7, 15 and 25 yard line. We also have to shoot one hand, using your strong hand and your week hand. The course you’re showing is just one of the many, but it is not the qualification course.
copy that
Thank you for your service and honesty.
Ok boomer
@@coup_de__grace Why is this comment a "highlighted reply"?....oh because all the employees at RUclips are under 21.
What is your recommendation to make it close to the qualifications standard?
That’s pretty cool. All of you guys are pretty good. I’ve heard the air marshal standards are the toughest as well. They seem pretty doable for any competition shooters and the avid enthusiast. Not your casual shooter though. Most people don’t realize how hard pistols are to shoot. It’s fun as shit once you figure it out
Very true!
I don't know if they allow full size Glock 34's, with comps, and with red dot sights though (and other modifications - stipples, triggers, etc...). Sure, it's 95% the shooter, but those mods certainly do help.
@@anonypersona3189 They don't. This video is complete bs. Its like filming yourself with training wheels and then titling it riding a bike. Attachments are a massive advantage in any test you should be able to do the test cold with no attachments. That's the Air Marshal standard. But then these guys couldn't look cool and play dress up for this video.
@@JesusChrist2000BC you do realize this video was meant to be funny. They obviously aren't taking it seriously if you actually watch the video. Calm down tough guy
@@JesusChrist2000BC Yeah, I get it but obviously this was supposed to be a fun video. It wasn't meant to be super serious. No harm done.
I really like seeing the standards being shot.
Thank you!
@@Tier1Concealed yes please keep doing these. Maybe compare old standards to new. Also maybe like some standards of other countries police, military, sf and so on.
What is “standard” about any of this? The weapons are nowhere close to an air marshal carries, nor are the environments.
@@preston6618 Thats really not the point. They arent Air Marshalls. This just gives us an idea of what they are or should be capable. Also gives us a fun way to test ourselves.
@@preston6618 If an Air Marshal carries garbage gear, that's on them.
I’ve seen a FAM shooting in a Blackwater Tactical Pistol Course. He was damn good with his SIG P-229 in .357 SIG using iron sights. No red dots back then…
@Shane Powell no what? Did you mean to say more?
Just think of all the guys through the years that passed the course with iron sights. That looks like fun, thanks guys!
I shoot IDPA matches with a former air marshal, he is a older guy but still a very good shooter. Thumbs up to all you guys for running this standard cold. You could have shot it until your scores were all high and passing !
When I shoot matches we had an FBI agent. His times were not considered fast and did just 'ok' in final scores but I did like his style and it got me to thinking of the real use of matches even though I'd beat him. Hit hits were precise and because we all knew we had to push the speed and still get decent hits, they were not as accurate. So I don't know, are hits not as precise but fast better than precise hits done slower in real life? Even a shoulder hit is not exactly doing nothing in real life. Maybe that was enough to change the whole situation compared to a slower hit more precisely. All I do know is I changed that I never wanted a miss. I wished the rules were that if you ever missed, you zeroed out the stage.
Why does Aaron look like he’s ready to sue anything walking 😂
Because he is 😂😂
Good job fellas! Nice shooting!! We ran stock iron sights on a sig 229 straight out of the box. Carried mostly inside the waistband. .357 round. 👍🏼
I was also going to throw that out there. But awesome shooting gents, I’ve always wondered exactly what there standards where
Cheers Sir.
@@johngross8300 cheers 🍻
I’d be scared of overpenetration using .357 Sig, that’s a pretty hot round.
@@twp397 at 35,000 feet that’s the last thing your worried about 😂
I'd love to see you do this with iron sites. 😁
Not sure if you have (but doesn't look like it) Try putting some weight in the right pocket of your blazer, a set of keys or a small wallet so when you throw the blazer, the weight takes it up and round your back giving you a better chance of a clean draw every time.
Nice vid 👍🏼
Yes, as Bill Jordan recommended in “No Second Place Winner.”
Very good tip as many don’t even think about this. It’s a very good habit just having your keys in your pocket on the side of the gun. Can’t tell you how many times I see guys struggle trying to draw from under garments!
Sounds like some advice from a IDPA shooter
According to the wilson combat dudes its harder than with a dot 🤣 buncha clowns
Guys that was FKN awesome! Loving the video game character touch to the shooting standard, lol! That was a instant classic keep killing it boys & stay safe!
Haha thanks man! Glad you like it!
Fellas. Wearing suits to the gun range is a vibe.
The hair is very aerodynamic so he should’ve had a slight edge… a swing and a miss.
We should’ve held a foot race at the end 😂
In the mid 2000's I shot with a few air marshals in USPSA matches. Those guys were GOOD!
You guys make some great gear. Didn’t know you had a channel. I’ve featured your Aegis holsters in a few of my videos. I think I’m up to 7 now. Ugh. Stay safe out there.
That’s awesome! Thank you!
That’s nice y’all have your custom guns we have all stock factory no mods to our duty weapons 😅
Kinda what I was thinking
This is easily the Coolest shooting drill on RUclips. Looking like professionals and real lawmen
It's a standard PPC (practical pistol course) for Federal Agencies( 60 rounds) Nowadays. We haven't done this qual since 2002.
Ive qualified many times on this course of fire. It is actually done with iron sights, a sig p229 in .357 SIG. not a comped glock 9mm with an RMR
Exactly!!!!!
And the frangible rounds also
I always enjoy seeing new types of standards and drills being shot. Your content provides lots of drills that can be incorporated in our own training. I was at a point where just shooting to improve or maintenance time was becoming a drag. The other thing besides a good sense of humor to your content is your willingness to shoot honestly in your videos. I enjoy the team working together to keeping things challenging, real and also fun!
P. S. The answer to the hair thing is, don’t ever do that again, 😂! Just kidding! Love you guys!
hahaha thanks so much, man, we really appreciate it!
Aaron and Jared look like cia agents
You guys are pretty damn good.
Was nice seeing it done in suits as well as people clothes.
Well, both the old are pretty sharp. That’s a nice set up y’all have on your weapons and no extra good job. Keep up the good work.
“The HOA President” I just choked on my coffee!!
Don't know what academy HOA officers attend, but pretty good shooting. Perhaps more HOA officers need to be Federal officers.
@@robertbraden461 HOA president of a rural private subdivision here. For me it wasn't an academy but having 50 acres to be able to practice on everyday. And I'd be glad to replace the jokes we have for Feds these days.
This is a great video! Those standards are tougher than most law enforcement standards are. Great shooting and the reverb acoustics of the shot sounds on that range are really cool.👍
thanks!!
It better be tougher than regular law enforcement qualification since air marshals engagement could be inside of an airplane. 🤣
Love the Spara holster. I run that set up with a double mag carrier from you guys under a suit every week. Axis Elite when I’m dressed casually, Spara when I’m dressed up. Definitely a lot harder to get to the range all dressed up, but I get my dry practice reps in. Shooting in a tailored suit is not easy if there’s no stretch.
Sweet video. Love seeing all these standards being shot. And being shot cold really test your ability on the fly like when the SHTF. Good job fellas.
On the “fly.” I see what you did there 👀
Thanks man!
Fun video and overall one of the tougher LEO quals. The shot that counts though is the one you may have to make cold when you least expect it.
Now just add starting seated and buckled in, and just a tad of moderate turbulence 🤔😎👍
Fun video, I think you should all repeat the test with either a stock P229 or a stock G19 and the same consistent holster/mag carrier. Just for fun.
But obviously, the skill verification is perfectly valid with your own personal carry choices.
I forwarded this video to a friend who is a FAM , this was his response. “ Lmmfao Didn’t even watch the full video…. Not even remotely accurate or close to the truth. “
@@jasonweekley2612 And the truth is?
@@LTVoyager he said the qaul is from 0-25 yards. He’s going to supply with with the white paper when he gets home.
@@jasonweekley2612 The qual we shot at Massad Ayoob’s MAG40 class was at 4 distances (4, 7, 10 and 14 yards if memory serves) and included shooting with the weak as well as strong hand, shooting from a variety of stances and positions (kneeling, etc.) and with one or two reloads in a shot sequence. Each phase had a time limit, but it was quite generous being the entry level course.
This is the TPC, tactical pistol course, which hasn't been shot for FAMS qualifications in nearly two decades. Also, the target is wrong. It should be horizontally longer. This course was shot in .357 Sig without optics and definitely with no compensator.
check out our revisit to the FAMS qual, we shot it with stock Gen5 G19's which we heard is what they use now.
@@Tier1Concealed I will. One more anecdote. Guys had to shoot this course for their job running the P229 in .357 at Atlantic City outside in the winter of 2001. No gloves because "you won't be wearing gloves on the plane"
Hello C 😊
Love the character loading screen moments
Thanks!
You guys did a great job with your shooting skills, and the creativity behind the video production. The video game avatar-like intro and outro to the team was a fantastic touch. Awesome shooting too by you guys. I aspire to being able to successfully shoot and pass that qualification with iron sights, cold, as well.
We appreciate it, man!
So air Marshalls use full on custom Glocks with MRD’s and muzzle breaks?
They used to carry a Sig p239 in a 357 sig round with night sights.....
@@ddarrenput8 not anymore… switched to Gen 5 glock 19
@@CJ80ish Oh nice! I always thought the sig, while a great gun, was not the best option for them. The 19 seems like a good replacement.
This is really impressive fine motor skills. I bet these guys absolutely dominate at D&Bs
This is definitely one of the harder qualifications!! I’m shocked anybody passed Lol 😂 I get it, you’re the ONLY gun on the plane so it’s perfection or nothing!!
Although I’m a jeans and tshirt kind of guy,🤣I must say u guys cleaned up and look sharp.🙂Love your shooting vids and close friendship among each other. I’ve learned a thing or two from your channel. Rock on guys!🤙🏽
great series! i think it would be cool to see you guys try to use the same pistols used by the agencies for their respective quals
They wouldn’t pass.
That’s a fact!
My buddy was one of the first Air Marshals. Iron sites on a Sig chambered in .357Sig.
Not shitting on tacti-glocks, but I love how most people who love them and swear by them end up relying on customizing them to no end
we dont rely on the customization for them to function, we do that to make them our own.
the glock always goes bang, thats why it's used so often
First video I've seen from y'all. I subbed instantly. Great video.
Thanks so much, welcome aboard!
You qualify with irons and you're supposed to go for a 300 - by doing the entire test off-hand as well.
That would be tough!
this!
That is the real deal. Not what are those clowns doing
shit, I probably couldn't do that.
The red dots help immensely. I imagine with just irons you would need to drill that proper pointing the weapon. Till your form is a instinct.
Guys Excellent, I'm ret FBI SA and worked closely FAMs They did require all FAMs to carry their issued Sig Sauer .357 pistol.
Nice entertaining shooting display, but Sky Marshals don't carry the pistols you guys used for the demonstration (they probably wish they could). Last year they transitioned from the issued Sig Sauer P229 to the Glock 19 Gen 5.
Fun to watch, anyway 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Exactly what I was thinking 🤔
They all failed…
Plus they don't use optics.
@@mcy2phil that's what I meant by Sky Marshals don't use the pistols (highly accessorized) that the guys in the video used. Moreover, Sky Marshals wear inconspicuous casual plain clothes. Fun stuff.
@@v.german11b sky marshals, aka fake marshals, but its all good!~
@em34ev3r I see. Genius.
Perfect channel to watch to up your skills. This is my favorite video out right now.
You guys should try the CSAT standards. Pretty tough.
Nice shooting!
Well this actually looks pretty hard compared to other lawfficer standards I’ve seen. Also your hair is somehow Offputting. Ps how does buddy like the type B ? Thanks.
We agree, Aaron’s hair is terrible
He loves the Type B! It was modified by Rain 6 and made into the “Type R”
@@Tier1Concealed cool thanks.
Well done guys. It’s great to see the products you sell in action. Love the Marketing team’s creativity in your videos. Enjoyed watching this one. 👍👍
Something I just learned is, In early 2020, the Federal Air Marshal Service announced the agency will be transitioning to the Glock 19 Gen 5 9mm handgun and awarded Sig Sauer the contract for ammunition. I'd be curious if they will allow them to run the RMR on them as well. It makes sense.
I was about to add that the gen 5 glock 19 is the standard issued firearm. I believe Iron sights are also the only thing permitted but could have gotten misinformation.
I’d love to see you guys pass it with bone stock pistols. I’ve done it before. It’s very tough for the average to good shooter, but it’s possible
That looks like a rather fun qualification test ! I want to try that.
"Don't Qualify, Don't Fly."
when I was at FLETC I talked with a marshal. he seemed pretty cocky about his shooting "in a tube" (airplane), so I assume he didn't miss much if any on these tests.
When were you there?
@@kmcmichael little more than 4 years ago
@@johyuujin3079 I retired from Artesia in 2016.
I don’t know if you guys missed it, but there’s a standard where you shoot 2 shots with your strong hand, reload from slide, switch over to your weak hand, fire 6 shots one handed under 10 seconds. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Compare the current FBI qual, with the 90s era qual. And do it with a real duty pistol.
I shot the current FBI Qual at Tom Givens Rangemaster course…I would say it’s a good medium difficulty Qual standard. Shot with a G22 and Holosun 407c.
Did the fbi qual in the police academy, shot 98/100 I’d agree with the other gentleman it’s a medium difficulty standard
Cool video. Yalls holsters are awesome. The player select part had me cracking up lol.
Haha! Glad you enjoyed it!
The hair is spot on for an aging nhl defenseman!
The first guy shot a 1.67 and a 1.66. He is done. He doesn’t get to go to the second stage! Then he was off on the rhythm drill because the time between two of his shots was off so that’s another fail.
I noticed you guys anticipating the beep. You should set the beep to random.
Good shooting, though!
How does that make sense lol
They were starting to move before the beep went off. Setting it to a random start time like anywhere between 1 and 4 seconds doesn't let you anticipate when it's going to beep. I have the same timer, and that's how mine is set.
They were gaming the drills.
The ones I’ve worked with run Glock 19 gen 5 mos. Ameriglo irons and hollow points. As of 4 months ago.
Quick question , isn’t this supposed to be done with iron sights ?
yes they run either a sig p229 in .357 sig or a gen 5 g19, plain factory trijicon 3 dot night sights on either one.
No optic 357 229 now G19… when I started we did shoot the TPC for qualifying (yes I’m old now and retired for 2 years) you either passed or you didn’t fly… most good offices shoot this course (and many other stress oriented courses of fire) to keep people sharp every now and then but it’s not a qualification course any longer… personally I loved the TPC it puts small fraction of the stress (time) you will encounter if the SHTF… (remember a gun fight, an aircraft is a bad day for everyone).
Do Air Marshal's use OWB holsters, or IWB? And your hair looks fabulous.
Nope not when they fly, everything has to be well concealed. I know several active ones now and none wear suits either. They just look like average dudes.
😂😂 no comment on the hair. And yeah, the suits were more for fun and trying a different method of carrying
@@Tier1Concealed during a dark period under abysmal leadership they did in fact require the suits. Looked about right to me. Milt Sparks VM2 was one popular choice but now most run things like JM custom. But it’s a personal choice within reason.
This is the old TPC. It’s still shot, but not for quals anymore. There’s a different qual course now.
Air Marshals dress in plain street casual clothes in order to blend in with the passengers. Hair styles and facial hair are completely up to the individual Marshal for the same reason. Ideally, you shouldn't be able to spot the Air Marshal in the mix of passengers.
Hmm, I was on a flight from Atlanta a few years ago, the plane was delayed from departing when a guy came on board, announced to me that he was an Air Marshal and promptly arrested the passenger sitting right next to me! I had been 1 character out with my seat reference. The AM must have realised from a photo/description I wasn't the felon. The AM was wearing a very expensive looking suit whilst the rest of us passengers were wearing std. issue Florida cargo shorts, trainers and t-shirts.
This needs to be done with a sub-compact pistol.
I reommend the BUL Armoy SAS Viper with muzzle break.
Those are supposed to be Oakley Sunglas.
Add more black velcro to everything,
but that hair-gel is perfect!
Keep up the Great Work!
For real, good audience to recruit from also. Alot of aviation lovers on RUclips.
Okay, timeout. 11:20 What. A. Reload!
I agree
I know. I only got to shoot it 3 or 4 times in training. I really wish they would have kept it. It caused alot of controversy between FAMS when they got rid of it. The FAMS that were required to shoot it gave the newer FAMS a bunch of crap because they didn't have to qual with it.
Please rerun this with a bone stock Sig P250 or P229 as these seem to be the standard issue (according to google🤪). Your custom triggers, RMRs etc. you all shoot really well and each of you are super comfortable with your own guns and setups. Having said that you guys shoot amazingly well, i cant do that with my EDC! But thanks to this video i will be incorporating some of these drills in my training. Maybe even a little friendly competition with some mates at the range!
I can get behind that!
These guys completed the challenge with a stock G19 in very shitty weather. Well done guys! See it here ruclips.net/video/3m26uGpbxjg/видео.html very good shooting!
Well, you guys aren't bad but I also know an Air Marshal and most don't use tricked out pistols and a lot use iron sights. And, I know it doesn't say it on the FAM course sheet, but at Stage 4, they load one round so the slide locks, the load the second mag and send the slide forward. Really difficult to make that time.
Things have gotten easier with the sights you use...
I had to learn it iron sights
If you can’t shoot proficiently with Iron sights then you suck as a shooter.
@Tony Stark Yes, if you have trouble with your eye sight, that is the one reason to go to a red dot on a pistol, IMO.
Solid video and shooting, thanks guys. I'm pleasantly surprised to see that the quals actually aren't super easy.
Keep up the good work fellas. Axis Slim FTW!
Thank you!
When flying Delta, you wear sweatpants or you stick out.. You really need to shoot into a backstop (not the mtn) almost every shot is ricocheting off the ground.
@eedd sdsd I agree that the "large hill" would catch the ricochets, but geebeaux is correct in that there were many. you can hear them clearly as they spiral up out of the dirt.
Is this the original FAM or the newer one?
Cool video. Iron sights would have been more realistic since Marshall’s don’t carry optics and all the bells and whistles. Until very recently they also carried .357 Sig.
Yep they JUST switched to Gen 5 19s w/ TLR7As
@@MrOhman86 would you translate the TLR7As but, please? I have absolutely no clue what does that mean
@@angelobartolomeu5679 Streamlight TRL-7A WML
@@angelobartolomeu5679 yeah no problem. Those are Streamlight Pistol mounted lights. They are flush fitting with the G19. Just RUclips it and it’ll show you what they look like. If you have any issues let me know!
Somehow I doubt that FLETC at Glencoe allows Air Marshals use if RMR sights on duty weapons. But I could be mistaken.
Just a note, it is Glynco. As in Glynn County.
Nice shooting…I’d be more impressed with plain open sights though.
At that distance I don't think it would make a difference
Why handicap yourself if you can run a dot
@@andrewgreiner4681 people act like the dots all of a sudden make you good to. They just enhance your skills, if you suck without a dot you’ll suck with one. I’m sure these guys would have no issues doing this test with irons, or “plain open sights” as this gentleman refers to them as.
@@drossi101 you hit the nail on the head dude lol
@Tony Stark The argument was about fundamentals not handicaps…
my Markman qualification shoot, you start off from 25 feet prone, 20 feet kneeing, 15 feet standing, with barricade then kneeing barricade down to 10 feet standing, then 7 feet right hand and quick change to the left hand. then 3 feet quick shoot full mag and mag change.
The reload at 11:20 is crazy😭
Excellent job fellas appreciate your service
Love to see this video done with bone stock Glock or Sig with no fancy parts or mods. I'm pretty sure your scores would be different.
Why don’t you go ahead and make that video
@@TokyotimTech Brilliant response, I will get right on that..... Offer something intellectual next time, i'm sure the others will enjoy your witty banter.
@@jondavidmcnabb I don’t need to be witty I can shoot unlike the other person in this convo 😂. Post a simple 10-10-10 let’s see what you got
@@TokyotimTech an armless man can shoot a weapon that means nothing.
@@jondavidmcnabb …ok? Well I’ll be here waiting on that video but we both know you’re just typing and not shooting 😂
Great drill!!! The suits are a nice touch. Much better than usual videos of dudes in kit running around making faces.🤟🏿🤟🏿🤟🏿🤟🏿🤟🏿🤟🏿
Nice video, I believe it's qualified with standard/iron sights though.
yup either a p229 in .357 sig with factory night sights or a g19 gen 5 with factory night sights.
Exceptional entertaining version of shooting qualification drill!
Sharpest dressed shooters on U Tube!
Respect to our air marshals, this is one tough standard!
Good job guys, loved the lil video
game-esque cut with the crowd cheering sound fx 😂🙌
hahaha thanks!
This doesn’t look any harder than the AZ armed guard qualifier. The AZ armed guard qualifier has a lot more reloads and a lot more drawing from the holster. AZDPS is the one that comes up with the AZ armed guard qualifier
Hahahahah okay. Arizona Armed Guard training is 16hrs total. The firearms qual is shooting on a NRA-TQ15 target which is a human sized target. From the draw at the 7 yard line you have 8 seconds to fire 3 rounds. Compare that to these guys who have 1.5 seconds from the draw to shoot 2. It’s not even comparable.
Tell me you applied to be a cop and got denied without telling me.
@@NorthernBuffalo. Don’t know what AZ armed guard range qualifier you took but that’s not what I did nor have I wanted to or failed at becoming a law enforcement officer. Got nothing against them but never had the desire to be on the street making arrests.
@@NorthernBuffalo. Not only did you not describe the range qualifications for the az armed guard course you didn’t factor in any additional qualifications specific companies will require. The company I work for made us do a lot more than what’s required from AZdps.
What makes you think that this is/was the FAMS Qual?
Google seemed to think so
Great job guys 👍🏽
Thanks for giving me the standard test, I've been doing it all wrong. I've been training to hit an outline of my driver's license at that distance for time a did pretty good. Now I can use a slightly larger target.
Great work and thank you so much, this will help me with the few misses I've had.
Mad props to you guys👍🏽
In the infantry where I was we outlined dip cans for rifles and paper plates for the saws practice makes perfect it was necessary in Bagdad 07-09 zero civilians casualties for my company
@@venivinivinci thank you for your service and doing an Awesome job. My brother is a Marine retired and he helped me become good many years ago and it just stuck with me. It's a great method for training, keep up the great work 👍🏽🙏🏽
I absolutely love the shooter highlight with applause a la fighting video games from the 80s. You guys are legit, I guess ;-)
lol he’s just throwing out sons bait for someone to talk bad about the SRO. Great optic and nothing wrong with it… not my first choice but then again neither is the glock so oh well.
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The last real Air Marshal I saw on a flight was wearing jeans and athletic shoes and a sweatshirt and had a backpack. He looked more like a grad student than an operator.
Air marshal's don't qualify with or carry optics on their service weapons and don't use competition firearms or ported barrels. Although you guys are doing great I'd like to see you guys run iron sights straight out of the box like the Air Marshal's do. Not because I want to see you guys fail, actually i think you'd do well but you aren't playing by the same standards.
Just purchased the Spara owb!
heck yeah! thanks for the support! I think you'll love it!
Would be surprised if air Marshall's are running Roland specials. Haha
Nope they were using Sig compacts(can’t remember the mode) Chambered in .357 Sig. I believe they changed over to Glock 19s and the 9mm this past summer.
@@thegreenman2030 wow .357 sig recoil actually makes a difference in qualifying
@@thegreenman2030 but I don’t believe this is the current Qual. You seem to know what’s going on, so can you confirm that?
@@meirmarcus6461 I have a family members that’s a Marshall. I know several others through him and have shit local competitions within the same squad. They are all fantastic shooters. I can forward this to my family member and see what he says if he chooses to watch it.
Last duty gun I've found is the sig p250 compact in 357 sig. But like he said they might have changed over just can't confirm that. But with family in the service he can.
Shoot it with air marshall issued sidearms. Not to dis your video because it was really good but just to point out that they have a very limited choice of pistols and they dont have any aftermarket stuff to make it easier.
Yeah, if we could replicate their quals with 100% accuracy, we would! We’re just out here having fun with what we have available 👍🏼
Would love to get a class in with you guys. Got that John Wick look 👌😎
Is that Owens Lake in the background? Great shooting!
FEDS don't use optics on their pistols. We all use the standard sights.
I don’t think they were trying to exactly replicate the qual. Just running the course with their own pistols.
Dude I think they were just running the tests with w.e they carry, or w.e they think an air marshall should carry (all a guess by the way, I didn't talk to these guys), so yeah I don't think they wanted to replicate an exact air marshall qualification, otherwise why not just ask to go and actually try it lol, don't assume, and they mentioned in the beginning that they basically set up what they think is best..
I remember my rangemaster at Brinks Inc, in Los Angeles CA trained us to never EVER look down to holster Ur sidearm. I never asked but always assumed it was that split second of looking down that the bad guy can get the jump on us than rob us. So we trained in walking to a outdated retired armored truck and holstering as we are walking with never looking down, but always looking around as you holster once Ur at the truck to then pull key and open side door then inter...Our RM was a retired D.I. from Camp Pendleton in Oceanside CA, some said it was his years of demanding perfection so it looked more professional. But now as I think more about it after watching this video than writing a comment, I think it was both for safety and looking professional....
not impressed do it with the FAMs issued firearm
Nice but I think its supposed to be with iron sights or factory. Logically it (reflex) would go together considering the situation. I could be wrong.