I attended a "wine tasting class" once and at a certain point the instructor conducted a "blindfold test" and very few people could discern the difference between white and red wine. I think the lesson is illustrative of what we are prepared to perceive due to our previous experiences. That Steinway you're playing has lovely way of making the notes "bloom." Rich tones. Thank you, Robert!
Thank you! That's a really interesting experiment! I think the fact that we drink white wine cold and red wine at room temperature affects our distinction to a great extent.
I have had listened to the both pieces before, so I knew them very well, but if I hadn't know these pieces, it would have been very hard to tell. Well done! The pieces, the movements and the bars you played are well chosen and very relatable.
This totally tricked me. I really thought the first one was Beethoven, and even when you played Mozart, I just took it as evidence my choice was bettter than 50/50. So glad you explained how you came up with this combination - I'm gonna have to watch this again now that I know the answer! (Sure, I'll be suddenly "Listen how OBVIOUS it is!!" after tricking me the first time around.)
1 Beethoven 2 Mozart Yes you got me even though I listened to every Beethoven sonatas. But I had little doubts because the 1st piece looked like Beethoven's early compositions, and we know that at one time Beethoven was highly inspired by Mozarts' works.
Great content! I got it right although I only occasionally listen to classical music. As a guitar player, my ears naturally pick up on licks (not sure what the more appropriate term is for classical music). And the licks in the first piece were clearly Mozart as I had heard those licks in Mozart’s other works many times.
Yes I did get the pieces matched with the correct composer, however your choices showed characteristics of both composers, making the decision challenging. Not revealing the actual works here (sorry, no spoilers allowed). The Mozart piece was composed later in his life, after he had left as a court composer in Salzburg. The Beethoven piece was composed relatively early in his life, even before his first symphony. At this early stage, Beethoven was studying with Haydn and may have seen himself as a successor to Mozart, and still in the style of Mozart. Just my thoughts as to why these two pieces are similar.
I was not familiar with either piece but was almost certain about the Mozart piece and was definitely certain about the Beethoven piece. Well chosen!! The Mozart seemed to have Beethoven-ish moods? Sometimes. But still had the "music-box" style, so to speak, of Mozart. It also sounded musically perfect, whereas the Beethoven did not.
Yea, that was hard, but I got it right. What tipped me off was the scale like motions at 2:32 sounded so light and delicate, much like a Turkish delight. Which is such a mozartian thing to do. The beethoven piece, although I think sounded similar it never gave way to the lighter parts of music. One way to think of it might be, mozart is a Turkish delight, brethoven is a dramatic pecan pie
This shows just how much Mozart influenced L.V.B. and cut a path towards the Romantic with his quick modulation to richer keys. There are I think only two? sonatas in the minor from Wolfgang. His 39th symphony points also to a new style.
I don't know music , I can't play piano...but I do listen to music & I was genuinely be able to make the correct choices between Mozart & Beethoven :) Thanks for this Interesting video :)
Yeah Robert, I got it wrong. Wasn't familiar with either and they sounded very similar to me. But here's the thing I got out of the video - Good God, you know a lot of music ! It's really mind boggling !
Excellent choice of excerpts to make the point, fantastic! Beethoven really admired Mozart, and one can hear it here clearly too. Mozart out doing Beethoven before he was born!
you did a real good job tricking me, Robert! 😉 I got it backwards, I was convinced that the first fragment was Beethoven and the 2nd Mozart. The 2nd fragment seemee to have more of the Mozartian 'ligjtness' in it ... although, if I hadn't known that one of them had to be Mozart, I could have sworn that both of the fragments were Beethoven. Both of them sounded so dramatic, I could almost feel the 'Sturm und drang' of the upcoming Romantic era in both pieces ...
So at the beginning of the 1st piece, I thought Beethoven for sure. As the piece progressed, however, it became more apparent that it was Motzart, And the second piece confirmed it for me. The fact that 25-30% of the 1st piece had me thinking it was Beethoven is interesting indeed, And makes me think more of Motzart than I did before.
Thanks for this video. Very interesting subject. I guessed it right, but it realy was an educated guess. What I missed was a bit of explanation of how we could have heard that the one sample was clearly Beethoven and the other was Mozart. Did they realy have their composers fingerprint? Where, and what does that sound like? Thanks again.
The first one, Beethoven by the phrasing and chords. The end sounds like Mozart, but the motion suggests Beethoven to me. I just hear echoes of 5th symphony. The second one I know is Beethoven,. It was part of a "Frasier" episode. Frasier says is frustrated because he made a mistake and cant remember past the very beginning. "I know it backwards and forwards." His brother, Niles then suggests ""Then maybe you should start at the end,"
I got it soooo wrong!! And you did trick me!! I truly love Beethoven, second Chopin, Mozart third.i can't believe I got em wrong. I thought the second was Mozart. Thx for this challenge. Do it again and again!
Example one is Beethoven. Very difficult to say, but the first was more dramatic, and there was a happy run of notes in the second example, reminding me of Mozart.
1. Mozart 2. Beethoven I was going back and forth for the first piece because it sounded more energetic than what I think of with Mozart, but the clarity and even the trills which sounds more baroque made me think Mozart, then when I heard the second piece I immediately knew that #2 was Beethoven and that #1 had to be Mozart despite being unusual.
I guessed correctly. I watched the other video first and what tipped me off was his jewel like placements of notes. And I also imagined Salieri off to the side plotting to gain revenge on Amadeus for having God's gift when Salieri was a much more devout man. And yes, the second sounded like the notes weren't easy to find, like it was a struggle to place them. But they were exquisite. Luigi struggled and overcame to make his music. It sounds like a triumph. I really like these videos, Robert. Merci beaucoup.
I had it correctly, but I was not sure if my choice was right. You threw some doubts in my mind, after hearing you said about Mozart that he had the explosiveness in this Minor key. Nevertheless, I stuck to my choice based my hunch that Beethovan tends to throw me as I never knew where he was going to lead me to.
♥ 🎹 🕶 *Excellent!* My guess was correct, having not heard either piece, simply because I found only two very short note sequences in the 2nd piece which are reminiscent of the Adagio Pathetique, which I have played.
I originally thought that the first example was the Beethoven, but after listening to the second example I began to doubt my initial guess… Of course, early in Beethoven’s life he considered Mozart his idol, and in fact traveled to Vienna to meet Mozart and played for him. So, I’m not surprised that both pieces sounded similar.
I was correct in my assumption, and it was based on trait markers I would normally attribute to Mozart. The Beethoven piece again had more thunder and energy at one specific moment that pushed me in the direction of that being Beethoven. I’m not educated in classical music any more than an average person, so may be a case of all luck no skill as well.
Hi, I'm not a real expert in classical music. But I looked for the answer, whether Beethoven's compositions were more romantic and therefore more emotional than Mozart's works or whether that is just my feeling?
Beethoven is credited with adding emotion to music in a way that helped bring about the Romantic era of music with composers such as Schumann and Brahms.
I immediately recognized Excerpt 1 as Mozart, Excerpt 2 as Beethoven but do not know music theory enough to say what makes 1 Mozartian, 2 Beethovenian.
I could tell the first one was Mozart and the second one was Beethoven, guess I am not a pleb. But I have a lot of growing as a classical music fan. First one sounds too happy to be Beethoven. One hears how Mozart and Beethoven were as people in their music. Mozart music is happy and cheerful. Beethovens music has anger and sorrow on it.
Yep, Mozart occasionally sounds like Beethoven, and early Beethoven sounds like Mozart. I decided the first one was Mozart and the reason is because of the left hand playing the 5-1-3-1 (fingering) accompaniment to the melody, in a triad. I forget what this is called, but there is a name for it. Mozart used it a lot, Beethoven much less so. But this is a really good example of a trick question.
I thought they both sounded like Beethoven, but because of the “game” with the fingers in no.1 I guess that that’s Mozart. And the second one is Beethoven.
definitely not as an expert, I got it correct. To me, the first one had more scales and was more melodic. The second one is more complicated for me to understand what is going on there 😅
I think I’ll spot Mozart but you might throw me off. My mom used to play both of these guys. Plus she had Tchaikovsky, Chopin, Gershwin, Strauss, Beethoven. 🤔oops not sure.
I was pleasantly surprised to have gotten them right. I found the second example to develop more and ran farther from the home key area. Meanwhile the first one sounded more orderly and had a simplicity to it.
First of all, BRAVO! What a treat to hear Robert play these examples. Anyway, I got it! There were more trills, and Mozart’s irrepressible optimism and even gaiety emerges in spite of the minor key and dramatic effects in #1. It was pretty close though. I didn’t hear the terminating flourishes that often resolve passages in Mozart, a near vice I have never heard in Beethoven. #2 was more Teutonic and altogether darker.
Mozart first, then Beethoven. But there was a lot of doubt in my mind. I have been surprised in the past thinking Mozart was Beethoven and vice versa on certain pieces.
I recognized excerpt #1 as Mozart right away having listened to that piece many many times...as well as #2 I've listened to many times. huge fan of both composers.
I was totally tricked. I thought the first one had that intensity and rhythmic drive that we hear in a Beethoven, and that the second one had more lyrical bits and even some Alberti Bass, so I was definitely fooled 😅
The first is Mozart more rounded and smoother. The two are close more like when Beethoven was a Mozart student before he grew wings and became more arrogant. Or, Mozart not wanting to write like himself because he had Beethoven in his wings.😁 Mozart bold, Beethoven arrogant!!!
I picked the correct composer, more by good luck than good knowledge. And don’t be a clown like #@joesphy and tell everyone which is which in the comments.
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I attended a "wine tasting class" once and at a certain point the instructor conducted a "blindfold test" and very few people could discern the difference between white and red wine. I think the lesson is illustrative of what we are prepared to perceive due to our previous experiences.
That Steinway you're playing has lovely way of making the notes "bloom." Rich tones. Thank you, Robert!
Thank you! That's a really interesting experiment! I think the fact that we drink white wine cold and red wine at room temperature affects our distinction to a great extent.
I was so excited that I correctly chose!
My final criteria, may be silly to most.
BUT, since I prefer dancing to Beethoven...
I know nothing ❤
If you can't spot red from white wine your taste is dead lol
I have had listened to the both pieces before, so I knew them very well, but if I hadn't know these pieces, it would have been very hard to tell.
Well done! The pieces, the movements and the bars you played are well chosen and very relatable.
This totally tricked me. I really thought the first one was Beethoven, and even when you played Mozart, I just took it as evidence my choice was bettter than 50/50. So glad you explained how you came up with this combination - I'm gonna have to watch this again now that I know the answer! (Sure, I'll be suddenly "Listen how OBVIOUS it is!!" after tricking me the first time around.)
The mozart was so clean at the beginning before the action, and the beethoven had those massive dynamic changes right at the beginning
The trill at 3:36 gave it away for me. This is very typical of the classical style popular during Mozart’s time.
1 Beethoven
2 Mozart
Yes you got me even though I listened to every Beethoven sonatas.
But I had little doubts because the 1st piece looked like Beethoven's early compositions, and we know that at one time Beethoven was highly inspired by Mozarts' works.
Great content! I got it right although I only occasionally listen to classical music. As a guitar player, my ears naturally pick up on licks (not sure what the more appropriate term is for classical music). And the licks in the first piece were clearly Mozart as I had heard those licks in Mozart’s other works many times.
Loved your playing. very enjoyable video
I got it wrong, the first sample reminded me of the first movement of the pathetique
Yes I did get the pieces matched with the correct composer, however your choices showed characteristics of both composers, making the decision challenging. Not revealing the actual works here (sorry, no spoilers allowed). The Mozart piece was composed later in his life, after he had left as a court composer in Salzburg. The Beethoven piece was composed relatively early in his life, even before his first symphony. At this early stage, Beethoven was studying with Haydn and may have seen himself as a successor to Mozart, and still in the style of Mozart. Just my thoughts as to why these two pieces are similar.
You're right! There are certainly many examples I could have provided which would have made the distinction between these composers obvious.
This was fun! Thank you!
I was not familiar with either piece but was almost certain about the Mozart piece and was definitely certain about the Beethoven piece.
Well chosen!!
The Mozart seemed to have Beethoven-ish moods? Sometimes. But still had the "music-box" style, so to speak, of Mozart. It also sounded musically perfect, whereas the Beethoven did not.
I played both Mozart and Beethoven whe I was young, and I feel that Mozart is also a bit more "staccatto", while Beethoven is more "Legatto"
Sample 1 was definitely Mozart. I'm not familiar with the piece at all, but that brief Alberti Bass moment gave it away.
Spoiler
That was really challenging ! I thought first play was Beethoven. So similar but very musically brilliant. Yes this is Fun 😊
Yea, that was hard, but I got it right. What tipped me off was the scale like motions at 2:32 sounded so light and delicate, much like a Turkish delight. Which is such a mozartian thing to do. The beethoven piece, although I think sounded similar it never gave way to the lighter parts of music.
One way to think of it might be, mozart is a Turkish delight, brethoven is a dramatic pecan pie
If I had played from the beginning of the Mozart, that theme is in the major and would really have had the classic Mozart elegance.
This shows just how much Mozart influenced L.V.B. and cut a path towards the Romantic with his quick modulation to richer keys. There are I think only two? sonatas in the minor from Wolfgang. His 39th symphony points also to a new style.
Easy! ❤ I could distinguish both in fewer than two bars.
Yesss! Got them correct 🙂 That was fun.
I don't know music , I can't play piano...but I do listen to music & I was genuinely be able to make the correct choices between Mozart & Beethoven :) Thanks for this Interesting video :)
Yeah Robert, I got it wrong. Wasn't familiar with either and they sounded very similar to me.
But here's the thing I got out of the video - Good God, you know a lot of music ! It's really mind boggling !
Excellent choice of excerpts to make the point, fantastic! Beethoven really admired Mozart, and one can hear it here clearly too. Mozart out doing Beethoven before he was born!
you did a real good job tricking me, Robert! 😉 I got it backwards, I was convinced that the first fragment was Beethoven and the 2nd Mozart. The 2nd fragment seemee to have more of the Mozartian 'ligjtness' in it ... although, if I hadn't known that one of them had to be Mozart, I could have sworn that both of the fragments were Beethoven. Both of them sounded so dramatic, I could almost feel the 'Sturm und drang' of the upcoming Romantic era in both pieces ...
So at the beginning of the 1st piece, I thought Beethoven for sure. As the piece progressed, however, it became more apparent that it was Motzart, And the second piece confirmed it for me.
The fact that 25-30% of the 1st piece had me thinking it was Beethoven is interesting indeed, And makes me think more of Motzart than I did before.
Well played, Sir; well played!
Just when I thought I knew Beethoven's style and Mozart's, you proved to me Im actually clueless.
Thanks for this video. Very interesting subject. I guessed it right, but it realy was an educated guess. What I missed was a bit of explanation of how we could have heard that the one sample was clearly Beethoven and the other was Mozart. Did they realy have their composers fingerprint? Where, and what does that sound like? Thanks again.
I listened to both for 5 seconds and I got both right.
this was so wonderful, yes I got it. Thanks, I love this.
The first one, Beethoven by the phrasing and chords. The end sounds like Mozart, but the motion suggests Beethoven to me. I just hear echoes of 5th symphony.
The second one I know is Beethoven,. It was part of a "Frasier" episode. Frasier says is frustrated because he made a mistake and cant remember past the very beginning. "I know it backwards and forwards." His brother, Niles then suggests ""Then maybe you should start at the end,"
I got it soooo wrong!! And you did trick me!! I truly love Beethoven, second Chopin, Mozart third.i can't believe I got em wrong. I thought the second was Mozart. Thx for this challenge. Do it again and again!
Example one is Beethoven. Very difficult to say, but the first was more dramatic, and there was a happy run of notes in the second example, reminding me of Mozart.
it's the other way around.. the first is Mozart, the second is Beethoven
Sample 1- Mozart piano sonata no 14 in c minor
Sample no 2 Beethoven piano sonata no 5 in c minor op 10 no 1, "Little pathetique"
Is this an official or known name "Little pathetique"?
I got it right...😌😌
The first one could've been one of Debussy's compositions too.🤔😒
Soo nice!!
1. Mozart
2. Beethoven
I was going back and forth for the first piece because it sounded more energetic than what I think of with Mozart, but the clarity and even the trills which sounds more baroque made me think Mozart, then when I heard the second piece I immediately knew that #2 was Beethoven and that #1 had to be Mozart despite being unusual.
I guessed correctly. I watched the other video first and what tipped me off was his jewel like placements of notes. And I also imagined Salieri off to the side plotting to gain revenge on Amadeus for having God's gift when Salieri was a much more devout man.
And yes, the second sounded like the notes weren't easy to find, like it was a struggle to place them. But they were exquisite. Luigi struggled and overcame to make his music. It sounds like a triumph.
I really like these videos, Robert. Merci beaucoup.
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No fooling me. I got them both correct in position 1 & 2. I really enjoyed this challenge. Thank you.
I had it correctly, but I was not sure if my choice was right. You threw some doubts in my mind, after hearing you said about Mozart that he had the explosiveness in this Minor key. Nevertheless, I stuck to my choice based my hunch that Beethovan tends to throw me as I never knew where he was going to lead me to.
♥ 🎹 🕶 *Excellent!* My guess was correct, having not heard either piece, simply because I found only two very short note sequences in the 2nd piece which are reminiscent of the Adagio Pathetique, which I have played.
A lot of times the way you can figure out composers is by little motifs that come from other works!
I originally thought that the first example was the Beethoven, but after listening to the second example I began to doubt my initial guess… Of course, early in Beethoven’s life he considered Mozart his idol, and in fact traveled to Vienna to meet Mozart and played for him. So, I’m not surprised that both pieces sounded similar.
Yep I knew it was 1 before I even heard 2. I listen to Mozart alot.
I was fooled by the greater drama in No 1. I love these quizzes.
I was correct in my assumption, and it was based on trait markers I would normally attribute to Mozart. The Beethoven piece again had more thunder and energy at one specific moment that pushed me in the direction of that being Beethoven. I’m not educated in classical music any more than an average person, so may be a case of all luck no skill as well.
That's a good reason to have picked Beethoven - good job!
Hi, I'm not a real expert in classical music. But I looked for the answer, whether Beethoven's compositions were more romantic and therefore more emotional than Mozart's works or whether that is just my feeling?
Beethoven is credited with adding emotion to music in a way that helped bring about the Romantic era of music with composers such as Schumann and Brahms.
Ha! I got it right. The trick is to watch for Alberti bass which Mozart uses a lot in all his piano music, whereas Beethoven avoids.
That is one very pervasive compositional technique in Mozart's music: livingpianos.com/what-makes-mozart-so-special/
I played the second, Beethoven, in high school,
Well, I am not familiar with either, but my guess is the first one is by Beethoven and the second one is by Mozart
Edit: darn it.
Excuse my ignorance. But isn't the twiddle effect at 1:50 and 1:55 a clear Mozart giveaway?
#1 was Mozart and #2 was Beethoven. I recognized the first one cause I played it many years ago; the second one sounded like an obvious Beethoven.
Thought it was beethoven first but the thrills and the alberti bass gave it away then😊
I immediately recognized Excerpt 1 as Mozart, Excerpt 2 as Beethoven but do not know music theory enough to say what makes 1 Mozartian, 2 Beethovenian.
1st bethoveen
I could tell the first one was Mozart and the second one was Beethoven, guess I am not a pleb. But I have a lot of growing as a classical music fan. First one sounds too happy to be Beethoven. One hears how Mozart and Beethoven were as people in their music. Mozart music is happy and cheerful. Beethovens music has anger and sorrow on it.
The biggest thing for me is Mozart even in his music in minor keys has a lightness to it, while Beethoven has a richer warmer sound.
I like videos like this.
Yep, Mozart occasionally sounds like Beethoven, and early Beethoven sounds like Mozart. I decided the first one was Mozart and the reason is because of the left hand playing the 5-1-3-1 (fingering) accompaniment to the melody, in a triad. I forget what this is called, but there is a name for it. Mozart used it a lot, Beethoven much less so. But this is a really good example of a trick question.
Alberti bass?
Yes, Mozart utilized the trademark Alberti Bass. That is a tip-off!
@@PcCAvioN Yes
I instantly recognized the Beethoven movement.
I thought they both sounded like Beethoven, but because of the “game” with the fingers in no.1 I guess that that’s Mozart. And the second one is Beethoven.
The first one sounded like dramatic yet melody oriented Mozart to me. Especially the bit starting at 2:18
Sample 1 for Beth
I was lucky and got it right. I did not know any of the pieces but number 2 sounded more like Beethoven.
definitely not as an expert, I got it correct. To me, the first one had more scales and was more melodic. The second one is more complicated for me to understand what is going on there 😅
I think I’ll spot Mozart but you might throw me off. My mom used to play both of these guys. Plus she had Tchaikovsky, Chopin, Gershwin, Strauss, Beethoven. 🤔oops not sure.
I was pleasantly surprised to have gotten them right. I found the second example to develop more and ran farther from the home key area. Meanwhile the first one sounded more orderly and had a simplicity to it.
First of all, BRAVO! What a treat to hear Robert play these examples. Anyway, I got it! There were more trills, and Mozart’s irrepressible optimism and even gaiety emerges in spite of the minor key and dramatic effects in #1. It was pretty close though. I didn’t hear the terminating flourishes that often resolve passages in Mozart, a near vice I have never heard in Beethoven. #2 was more Teutonic and altogether darker.
My thoughts
Mozart 1
Beethoven 2
Got it right, but it was a challenge.
Interesting. My first instinct was your correct answers but then I switched them.
They say that your first inclination tends to be correct!
As soon as I heard the second one I correctly changed my decision lol
Mozart first, then Beethoven. But there was a lot of doubt in my mind. I have been surprised in the past thinking Mozart was Beethoven and vice versa on certain pieces.
Distinguishing Mozart from Haydn can be even more difficult!
The first one is M ozarts
I choose mozart first
Yes
I got it ...but i wasnt too sure
I thought #1 was beethoven because i heard some doom chords which sounded like beethoven (da da da daaa-da da da daa!)
🫠 I had 1. Beethoven 2. Mozart
I recognized excerpt #1 as Mozart right away having listened to that piece many many times...as well as #2 I've listened to many times. huge fan of both composers.
If you think telling everyone which was which was clever, it wasn’t. It was down right selfish. 👎
Beethoven and hearing in the same title 😂
I was totally tricked. I thought the first one had that intensity and rhythmic drive that we hear in a Beethoven, and that the second one had more lyrical bits and even some Alberti Bass, so I was definitely fooled 😅
I got it right but I very nearly didn't!
Tricked me. 😝
Got it wrong. Tried to imagine which could also be played on a harpsicord and sound correct.
Mozart 1, Beethoven 2
The first is Mozart more rounded and smoother. The two are close more like when Beethoven was a Mozart student before he grew wings and became more arrogant. Or, Mozart not wanting to write like himself because he had Beethoven in his wings.😁 Mozart bold, Beethoven arrogant!!!
I was wrong haha!
First is Mozart, second Beethoven.
I am playing easy levels of piano
To easy, Mozart is more natural and perfect, Beethoven feel no natural secuence
I got it right.😂
My guess was wrong 😬:))
Beethoven is more romantic??
This is true. Beethoven’s music tends to be more overly emotional.
Number 1 sounds like Beethoven not as someone in here says number 2!.
I knew first one was Mozart. Even in minor keys he is playful. Also, I played the Beethoven in college so I knew that one immediately
My guess: 1) Mozart, 2) Beethoven. The first one has some of those really recognisable Mozarty 'tinkles' (technical term😂)
I picked the correct composer, more by good luck than good knowledge. And don’t be a clown like #@joesphy and tell everyone which is which in the comments.