I like Remington 870 shotguns , but i am very cautious at this point about " new production guns ". I hope for the best , of course . Please keep us informed . Thank you !!
Had a Remington 870 Express decades ago. Saved for about a year to get it and absolutely LOVED it!! Great bird gun. Too bad some jack wagon broke into my apartment and stole it (along with a couple other toys). Man that thing was accurate and could reach out and drop doves/quail/pheasants. Looked at gtting another a while back but the construction was shoddy and it felt cheap. Hope they are back on track with this platform.
My 870 "Special Field" model purchased new in 1987 exhibits exceptional fit and finish but to be fair the purchase price in today's dollars would be much higher than the basic price point this shotgun is intended for. As is, todays model looks to be very good value for the money
I agree 100% with you and I definitely prefer my early 90's 870 Magnum Special Purpose with its Dupont early days Realtree Greenleaf synthetic stock is tight as a tick on a hound dogs ass and the fitment was pretty darn good back then for synthetic stocks and the slide action is spot on smooth with its Carlson's 7+1 extension tube after I ground down those two stock mag tube dimples and it cleaned up rather nicely so much so you would think it came from the factory that way back in the day !!!
The model shown in the video still looked a bit rough on the stock assembly, but I guess it's a matter of baby steps. Compared to your original video, they saw there was a quality issue, that should have never been there to start with, and they are addressing it. Good for RemArms. There is hope for them yet.
Agreed. I have one from then and no reason for me to get one of these newer models. Most new model guns just look cheap to me. The "wood" which I wouldn't even call it wood, is so ridiculous on non super high end or custom guns it makes me not even consider and go with a synthetic if I had to buy one new. And I'm a classic wood guy. This is why I shop in local gun shops and gun and pawn shops for older used guns. The price difference is just a plus. No pride in craftsmanship and profits over quality material.
I love my old Wingmaster. I've taken more than a few turkey's and grouse with it. Just point and shoot. A few scuffs from wear but I call them love marks.
Contacted Remarms to get drop and cast shim for my V3 shotgun which should have come with the gun in the first place. They send me to some other company for parts and can not get a response from them either. What a nightmare to get two plastic shims. I think this gun is going to be traded for something that has customer support.
Remington and century are both trying to improve their quality but they’ve already got a bad reputation so it’s kind of too little too late for most people. I bought a mossberg two years ago because of Remingtons bad reputation and I probably would have gotten an 870 like everyone else in my family if I wasn’t up to date on this kind of stuff and I had never even heard of mossberg until I did some research.
They have a bad reputation? Remington had bad firearms for 7-10 years and prior to that they were flawless ever Remington I own is a perfect functioning weapon. It’s not to late considering Remington has been around for over a hundred years. They’ve got one hell of a backing.
@@Sackmatters they were bought out in 2007 and only in the last year did they get away from the freedom group. I didn’t feel like learning how to identify a good one from a bad one and liked the features the mossberg offered and chose to go with that brand instead.
I have a couple,I have a old 70's police issue wingmaster the 870 express 3.5" chamber and the biggest hunk of shit Remington has ever built the special purpose,that gun literally ride's around in the tool box in the back of my truck, just Incase something happens, but the old police 870 is flawless chrome bolt beautiful wood high gloss the old corn cob pump 18" barrel I put a b square saddle mount on it and use it as a slug gun very accurate
I think in the long run Remington will do just fine. They should never ever again allow themselves to play the game of selling 870s in Walmart for the $279 price point and expect people to respect their quality. It got to the point where people were regarding these guns like BiC lighters........ironically BiC lighters had a better fit and finish. I'd gladly pay substantially more for an 870 built like they were in the 1980s and earlier. Will be interesting to see what production from the new Georgia plant will be like. My R1 1911 made in Alabama before the bankruptcy is surprisingly flawless.
Not interested until they bring back the Wingmaster. This looks to be just an Express with checkering and different stain. I have an Express SuperMag (2003) and the finish here isnt enough difference to warrant a purchase. Ill hold out for a Wingmaster
If Remington does not use non-mim extractor, the rifle will jam. Using mim extractor because it is cheap will make all their efforts in vain. It would be a shame. Greetings from Türkiye….
@@waynemayle865 My dad has a Remington 572 Fieldmaster .22 rifle and my first shotgun is a 870 20 gauge Wingmaster. I spent a lot of time in the woods and open prairie with both of them. Two great guns, that's for sure.
Man...that barrel. It does not look like it is American made, not Remington made....that looks like a cheap, Turkish barrel found on no-name shotguns in Europe.
@@Orlosthedruid the old stuff yes. Give the new company a chance before you bitch about it. It's not easy to restore a tarnished reputation like they have. But they're at least trying
@@MikeS2124 , everything I have heard, I have seen, and I have held in my hands, PLUS the moronic upcharge on items like the ADL....no. Sorry, but thats a very hard, like mountain rock hard, pass. Remington sucks. They have gone to hell in a basket and I do NOT see them coming out of it, ever. The only chance they have, is to tell NY to take a swim, and move to Texas. Fire the union employees, and get 100% all new management, taken from the military, law enforcement, and NON ivy League schools. It is the liberal ownerships that have run that company into the dirt, and you got to burn that house down to the dirt to get rid of those roaches.
Got mine about 3 weeks ago have about 30-40 shells through it. All I can say is the gun functions well and the wood is beautiful.
I like Remington 870 shotguns , but i am very cautious at this point about " new production guns ". I hope for the best , of course .
Please keep us informed . Thank you !!
I hope they are successful, and keep the Remington brand going...
Remington 870 was the gold standard in pumps. Solid design. If the quality is there . . .
I handled a couple 870s at buds gun shop today, and the quality seemed very well. Fit and finish was nice.
Had a Remington 870 Express decades ago. Saved for about a year to get it and absolutely LOVED it!! Great bird gun. Too bad some jack wagon broke into my apartment and stole it (along with a couple other toys). Man that thing was accurate and could reach out and drop doves/quail/pheasants. Looked at gtting another a while back but the construction was shoddy and it felt cheap. Hope they are back on track with this platform.
My 870 "Special Field" model purchased new in 1987 exhibits exceptional fit and finish but to be fair the purchase price in today's dollars would be much higher than the basic price point this shotgun is intended for. As is, todays model looks to be very good value for the money
I agree 100% with you and I definitely prefer my early 90's 870 Magnum Special Purpose with its Dupont early days Realtree Greenleaf synthetic stock is tight as a tick on a hound dogs ass and the fitment was pretty darn good back then for synthetic stocks and the slide action is spot on smooth with its Carlson's 7+1 extension tube after I ground down those two stock mag tube dimples and it cleaned up rather nicely so much so you would think it came from the factory that way back in the day !!!
Looks like the new one has sling swivels attached..nice touch
Good! I’m glad that RemArms has their stuff together correctly. Ilion needs the guys there to do quality work.
The model shown in the video still looked a bit rough on the stock assembly, but I guess it's a matter of baby steps. Compared to your original video, they saw there was a quality issue, that should have never been there to start with, and they are addressing it. Good for RemArms. There is hope for them yet.
I got out of the 870 game after buying two with crooked removable chokes. Not fun to miss because the gun doesn’t shoot straight. They fix that yet?
@Nick I think it’s pretty easy to see. Looking into the muzzle the back of the choke doesn’t sit concentrically in the bore.
I'll take an 870 built in the 70's any day over the present model.
Agreed. I have one from then and no reason for me to get one of these newer models. Most new model guns just look cheap to me. The "wood" which I wouldn't even call it wood, is so ridiculous on non super high end or custom guns it makes me not even consider and go with a synthetic if I had to buy one new. And I'm a classic wood guy. This is why I shop in local gun shops and gun and pawn shops for older used guns. The price difference is just a plus. No pride in craftsmanship and profits over quality material.
I don’t think I’ll ever let my ‘74 Wingmaster go. Finding a suitable shorter barrel for it has been proving to be more challenging.
They need to bring back high luster bluing, and choice walnut, ala the wingmaster... people will pay for the quality.
I love my old Wingmaster. I've taken more than a few turkey's and grouse with it. Just point and shoot. A few scuffs from wear but I call them love marks.
Nothing wrong with the wood. Looks nice!
Go Big Green!
Hope to get latest in formation regarding Remington870 during new owner.
Hope they offer barrels as separate purchases again.
Hope you get a 552 and572 when they start making those.
I don’t see the field master listed on there website. I am wanting to buy one in 20 gauge if they make it in that gauge.
There will be 20 gauge at some point. Haven't made any yet
Contacted Remarms to get drop and cast shim for my V3 shotgun which should have come with the gun in the first place. They send me to some other company for parts and can not get a response from them either. What a nightmare to get two plastic shims. I think this gun is going to be traded for something that has customer support.
Remington and century are both trying to improve their quality but they’ve already got a bad reputation so it’s kind of too little too late for most people. I bought a mossberg two years ago because of Remingtons bad reputation and I probably would have gotten an 870 like everyone else in my family if I wasn’t up to date on this kind of stuff and I had never even heard of mossberg until I did some research.
They have a bad reputation? Remington had bad firearms for 7-10 years and prior to that they were flawless ever Remington I own is a perfect functioning weapon. It’s not to late considering Remington has been around for over a hundred years. They’ve got one hell of a backing.
@@Sackmatters they were bought out in 2007 and only in the last year did they get away from the freedom group. I didn’t feel like learning how to identify a good one from a bad one and liked the features the mossberg offered and chose to go with that brand instead.
I can’t wait to see a report on the New Remington 700 BDL with the new rifling and how they shoot.
I'm waiting on the CDL too
Still make the ADL?
@@uprebel5150 yes they do there were at the dealers show in PA. 3 weeks ago they are very nice wood stocks blued.
I have a couple,I have a old 70's police issue wingmaster the 870 express 3.5" chamber and the biggest hunk of shit Remington has ever built the special purpose,that gun literally ride's around in the tool box in the back of my truck, just Incase something happens, but the old police 870 is flawless chrome bolt beautiful wood high gloss the old corn cob pump 18" barrel I put a b square saddle mount on it and use it as a slug gun very accurate
Question is will my new express 12 gauge shoot 3” magnum shells?
The gun still leaves me cold. Looks like a Russian or Turkish Import.
Well, it sounds promissing. Thx for the update
We can all keep our fingers crossed
When are they going to start producing the higher end 700’s again? Been waiting a while to buy a 5r.
I have an early wingmaster TB shot a badger with it recently and it doo doo’d everywhere, i felt terrible and traded it for a 504 Target
Thank you sir.
Thanks appreciated.
Anyone shot a new remarm 700 adl yet? Would love to know how they’re doing. Would like to have one
I think in the long run Remington will do just fine. They should never ever again allow themselves to play the game of selling 870s in Walmart for the $279 price point and expect people to respect their quality. It got to the point where people were regarding these guns like BiC lighters........ironically BiC lighters had a better fit and finish. I'd gladly pay substantially more for an 870 built like they were in the 1980s and earlier. Will be interesting to see what production from the new Georgia plant will be like. My R1 1911 made in Alabama before the bankruptcy is surprisingly flawless.
Ding dong! The Express is dead!
Now, if folks will buy at Fieldmaster prices, I think RemArms may stand a chance.
Price on the 870?
$499 here in Ohio
I might buy the Field Master, I want one in 12 ga and 410 ga
Awesome thanks
Not interested until they bring back the Wingmaster. This looks to be just an Express with checkering and different stain. I have an Express SuperMag (2003) and the finish here isnt enough difference to warrant a purchase. Ill hold out for a Wingmaster
Good, Good. Thank you
Anything like my old wingmaster?
not even close
I just want the versa max tactical and 870 police magnum to come back but remington isn't making them
Thank god. We don’t need another gun company going out of business. Now if they would come out with a double barre..
If Remington does not use non-mim extractor, the rifle will jam. Using mim extractor because it is cheap will make all their efforts in vain. It would be a shame. Greetings from Türkiye….
My old 870 was called a “wing master”, what’s the deal with “field master”?
Came from there 22 cal. Line from yrs gone bye
I'm not for sure on this one but I think the Fieldmaster is a little more refined compared to the Express but not as refined as the Wingmaster.
@@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike I don't know yet would like to get my hands on one the wing master will for ever be on of the best shot guns remington built
@@waynemayle865 My dad has a Remington 572 Fieldmaster .22 rifle and my first shotgun is a 870 20 gauge Wingmaster. I spent a lot of time in the woods and open prairie with both of them. Two great guns, that's for sure.
@@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike yes they are
I wonder how the quality on the Express models are those were the worst ones.
The express is no more. The fieldmaster has replaced it
They should try making more parts….
Kinda hard to make parts when we can't even get enough stuff to even build with
M700 Remington please make it RIGHT!!!
stay tuned - from discussions I'm having, there are some really good things coming this year for the 700 series
Looks like a poorly finished stock, they should be filling the grain, before finishing coat.
The open grain look is what they are going for from what we were told
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A cheap maverick 88 that’s literally half of this Remington price worth more and is more reliable in my opinion
I bought a new 870 a few days ago and seems solid and nice finish. We will see if it holds up. Time will tell
@@fightingirish5550 I doubt I'm gonna get an answer but how is it holding up? Your comment says 2 years ago now and I'm looking at shotguns to buy.
Man...that barrel. It does not look like it is American made, not Remington made....that looks like a cheap, Turkish barrel found on no-name shotguns in Europe.
Made right in ilion ny
@@MikeS2124 whatever....everything by Remington is crap these days
@@Orlosthedruid the old stuff yes. Give the new company a chance before you bitch about it. It's not easy to restore a tarnished reputation like they have. But they're at least trying
@@MikeS2124 , everything I have heard, I have seen, and I have held in my hands, PLUS the moronic upcharge on items like the ADL....no. Sorry, but thats a very hard, like mountain rock hard, pass.
Remington sucks. They have gone to hell in a basket and I do NOT see them coming out of it, ever.
The only chance they have, is to tell NY to take a swim, and move to Texas. Fire the union employees, and get 100% all new management, taken from the military, law enforcement, and NON ivy League schools.
It is the liberal ownerships that have run that company into the dirt, and you got to burn that house down to the dirt to get rid of those roaches.