The role of the pawnee chief was playing by Wes Study. He once got an honorary Oscar for his work in movies. He speaks several native languages. When he got his Oscar he said: it’s about time (saying between the lines that native Americans actors etc are not respected in Hollywood)
They’re Lakota. They and their cousins, the Dakota, controlled the middle of the North American continent. The reason Wind in His Hair doesn’t kill Dunbar at first is because in their culture it’s braver to face an enemy and stand your ground or even just touch them rather than kill them. The French (who we’re trading with them since the 1600s) called it counting coup.
Costner said had he known how difficult making a movie of this scope would be, he’d had never tried. Just the wide shots with all the animals and extras, at exactly the right time of day to get the perfect lighting, etc. He said they tried using coyotes and wolf/dog hybrids for Two Socks, but they just didn’t look real, so they used real wolves.
I lived in this area when the film was made. They are Sioux. I’ve seen “Wind In His Hair” (Rodney Grant) in a local store, in Chadron, Ne. I LOVE this movie!!
When you described the indigenous/white history as ‘such a great loss’ it gave me chills. You are so right. It’s a tragedy and it was a true disservice the early American settlers did to their descendants.
You have seen the actor who plays "Kicking Bird" before. His name is Graham Greene and he was the first inmate executed in "The Green Mile". Dances with Wolves won a lot of Academy Awards including Best Picture and a Best Director Oscar for Kevin Costner. All were well deserved in my opinion. Graham Greene was nominated for Best Supporting Actor but didn't win. The whole cast was so talented and believable in each role they played. Wes Studi, the actor who played the Pawnee warrior that was killed in the river with the Souix warriors surrounding him has been in many movies. He was also the Pawnee that attacked Christine's family and killed the foul man who brought Lt. Dunbar west to his new post. Great reaction to this epic story!
@@malaware5341 no she had lost her husband. She was trying to take her life. This was a theme that tied the movie together. He had tried to take his life at the start of the film. So they had that in common. It was something that built a bridge between them. They mention in the movie that she had been in mourning and that she had not been the same since her husband was killed.
@@TexasTigressDesigns "In "Dances with Wolves," Stands With A Fist is not committing suicide. Instead, she is mourning the loss of her husband and expressing her grief through a traditional mourning ritual. This involves cutting her arms, which is a cultural practice among her people to show deep sorrow and respect for the deceased. It's a powerful scene that highlights the depth of her emotions and the cultural significance of her actions."
@@TexasTigressDesigns so sorry, but you are mistaken, it still ties it together though, as white people dont understand this ritual, and would think it was suicide
I’ve never seen any reactors do Lonesome Dove. It’s a western miniseries with an utterly epic cast (Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones, Danny Glover, Angelica Houston, Diane Lane…). If this is a genre you end up liking, please look into it!
@@Melly3112-ox3eyIt just needs to be broken down into segments, just like it was aired on TV. It would be as easy as watching a series that runs 5 seasons(Breaking Bad)..
Also she was in a favorite, underrated movie from 1991, "Grand Canyon" - Danny Glover, Kevin Kline, Steve Martin, Mary McDonnell, Mary-Louise Parker, Alfre Woodard, Jeremy Sisto, Tina Lifford...
We had this on VHS when I was a kid. It was one of those movies that was so long it took 2 tapes. They perfectly ended the first tape in a spot where you absolutely HAD to keep watching the second one. I remember the Gangs of New York DVD being a two parter as well, but I would usually just stop watching after disc one.
The Film Score by John Barry can't be celebrated enough. "Journey to Ft Sedgwick" gets me in the feels with the visuals of the great open plains. The actors are speaking a dialect of Lakota Sioux, which was taught by Doris Leader Charge; the white-haired elderly woman who appears in the film several times. The film was written by one of Costner's friends, Micheal Blake. Kevin has recalled in television interviews that he had recently had a falling out with Blake - gave some tough love. Told him to go away write something. When the Blake retuned, he had written DWW. Costner was so proud of his friend and he paid for the film himself to make sure it got made. The buffalo hunting scenes were filmed over a four day period and could only be done once per day. The prop Buffalo seen collapsing to the ground are being thrown off of the back of a pick up truck, just outside the cameras view. The character of "stands with a fist" is very loosely based on a woman named Cynthia Anne Parker. Parker's pioneer family was raided by Comanches and she was taken as a child slave and later adopted. She eventually married the chief of the Comanche nation and was the mother of the last chief, Quanah Parker. I think you'll find that most native cultures were just as brutal and just as expansionist as the white people everyone seems to be fixated on in this era. There is an excellent book, called "Empire of the Summer Moon" - which covers the history of the Comanches and their last chief Quanah Parker.
The war is the Civil War - 1861 to 1865 - between the North (blueish uniforms) and the South (grayish uniforms) which had many issues, but mainly is considered about whether the US should get rid of slavery in all states and stay as one country (as President Abraham Lincoln was promoting) - the stand which the North, or Unionists wanted, or to keep slavery as the “Confederacy” wanted which meant that states (mostly in the south or southwest) would have to separate from the US and have their own country keeping slavery as legal. The Union (northern ) forces had more access to modern industrial infrastructure, weaponry, military equipment, technical advancements and about double the troops, so it eventually won, but it did take several years and cost over 600,00 lives and devastated most of the South. The Confederacy surrendered in April 1865. In 1863 Lincoln had passed the Emancipation Proclamation which stated that enslaved people were free and that slave-owning was now illegal. (This gave rise in recent decades for the ‘Juneteenth’ celebration when Texas was the last state to eliminate slavery on June 19.) The 13th Amendment was passed in December 1865 which abolished slavery in the entire country. Obviously there are weaknesses, flaws, overlooked issues, unanswered troubles, continuing problems, in all of this, which the US struggles with even today. Everything connected with Native peoples living in the US was not addressed by the struggles in the Civil War, so this film picks up another ongoing problem in society.
The final scenes (the Winter Camp) were filmed in the beautiful Spearfish Canyon in the Black Hills area of South Dakota, not far from Devil’s Tower, near the border of South Dakota and Wyoming. Parts of Spearfish Canyon are 12 times older than parts of the Grand Canyon.
I enjoyed your reaction and commentary on this classic film. It's a favorite of mine. Though I was a little surprised when you said this was your first western. I've been following your reactions of The Wire which is one of two of my all-time favorite series. The other is Deadwood, which is also from HBO. And it's a western. The Wire and Deadwood are very different on the surface. But what they have in common is they both look behind the curtain of genre' tropes and make critical observations about society. The Wire does it with law and order type cop shows. Deadwood does something similar, though in a more fantastical way, in an old west setting. But it too is based on real characters from history. I think you'd enjoy it. The writing and dialogue are exceptional. Maybe try on episode 1 for size and see if you want to continue.
I adore this movie, and it's criminal so few people react to it! I was actually just hoping for a new reaction to it just the other day, so this is perfect timing :) Most of the horses in this film were provided by the family of my childhood best friend. She actually had a signed polaroid of Kevin Costner from when her family got to meet him. Apparently he was a very friendly guy and was both very tired from the shoot and super passionate about the project. That being said, some of his behavior since this film suggests to me he didn't fully take the lesson of his own film to heart. He was given honorary tribal membership by a group of Natives who appreciated the film, but he hasn't been particularly respectful about that, and has opened up casinos that compete with Native ones. It's legally within his right, otherwise they'd stop him, but. . . casinos are a major source of income for Natives, and the way a lot of tribes are set up, all members of the tribe (most of whom live near the poverty line) get a chunk of the profits. So he, a rich white man who does not need the money, is taking from poor Native people who do. And I don't feel comfortable lauding the film without pointing out the hypocritical nature of the man who made it. Great reaction, as always! :)
Your pointing out Costner's hypocrisy has altered my opinion of the man. However, it doesn't effect my opinion of this film. Just seeing two favorites, Graham Green and Tantoo Cardinal makes it worthwhile. Also staying true to Indigenous values as they were in the past...and sometimes still are. We owe so much.
Never though the of the relationship between Arrival and Dances with Wolves. It makes perfect sense. One was about America's greatest sin and the other is about America's current sin - In a sense - they are both close - about communication and understanding or at least openness. Bravo! Keep this up!
The start of this is set during American Civil War 1861-1865. This is such an excellent movie, I also thoroughly enjoyed his movie Open Range (2003), and Costner was part of the cast in my husband's favorite Western, Silverado (1985). When it comes to Westerns I recommend: Little Big Man (1970), The Magnificent Seven (original 1960), True Grit (remake 2010), Tombstone (1993), The Cowboys (1972), and the spaghetti Westerns: A Fist Full of Dollars (1964), For a Few Dollars More (1965), The Good The Bad, and the Ugly (1966). One of my all time favorite movies is the neo-Western mystery, Lone Star (1996), and other neo-Westerns I recommend are Thunder Heart (1992), Wind River (2017).
You're absolutely correct about how horrible it was for the unjustified taking of native humans' lives & lands. It's Sinful. And in learning there were many tribes who fought against each other for similar reasons that were practically neighbors within distant miles apart. Some tribes taking the survivors as their slaves. I never thought that within every country, the villages & tribes fought against one another, battling over and again instead of peacefully joining & benefitting from their combined experiences. Instead of murdering for lands to expand their pride and turning the week concord people into slaves and servants, believing controlling power is vindicated and justified. Why do you think those historical events were not taught in school. So we could learn early how wrong it is before falling for some groups' ideals of what should be....
Hi Franklin, Thank you for another great reaction. When I first saw this movie in the theater back then in 1990 I wasn't fully aware of the history of the native Americans. But Kevin Costner did a series afterwards, called "500 Nations". To learn more you might want to take a look at it. And as you are on a row with movies about communication, you might want to watch "Enemy Mine" by Wolfgang Petersen, starring Dennis Quaid and Louis Gossett Jr. Keep up the good work. Always looking forward to see your point of view on lots of my favorite movies. Greetings from Germany - Rick
I used to rewatch this movie so many times when I was a kid! 💖 Somehow, I never even realized this counts as a Western, I have zero idea why I didn't. 😅 Lol I guess my brain just thinks more of movies like 'The Quick and the Dead'(another one I used to rewatch so many times when I was young) or something when when I hear "Western", but it makes sense there's probably so much more that counts. I used to just watch and read basically everything and anything without knowing what genre they were or weren't. 😂
Two Socks is so heartbreaking because the beautiful bond DWW builds with him is why he was trusting and close enough to humans that got him killed. I think it on some level represents a similar danger DWW fears he could unintentionally put the tribe in because of his presence.
The long cut of this movie is over 4 hrs long. I have all 3 cuts but the long is the one I prefer. Kevin went way out of his way to make everything authentic. Ten Bears' wife is Doris Leader Charge and was teaching Lakota to the cast members and when they were found by Kevin to not be studying hard enough, threatened to fire every one of them if they didn't improve their study ethic. Several are actually Lakota and were embarrassed that didn't know their own native tongue.
Not good advice about a bear, depends on the type of bear and what it's actions are. Usually always best to be non confrontational, not aggressive. Listening to you talk about movies that humanize and are about communication, I'm sure you would like, my all time favorite, The Station Agent (2003), and, The Wedding Banquet (1993). More excellent movies I recommend are: The Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012), The Way You Look Tonight (2019), Sweet Land (2005). When you spoke about the question posed to your friend of feelings like, "I'm fighting for my country, yes, but I'm killing innocent people, people who never had a grudge towards me ... " I immediately thought about the job interview monologue by Matt Damon in, Good Will Hunting (1997). That movie also has one of the best monologues ever in the scene on the park bench with Robin Williams character.
The main actor in this movie is Kevin Costner another great great movie he is in probably his best with this movie is Field Of Dreams one of the best movies ever
This is gonna be a long post so I apologize in advance. I do have it broken down into small sections. This is one of my favorite movies of all time so I have a lot to say. This is towards the end of the Civil War. I'm curious where you are from. Your accent is familiar. Nigerian? As Foul as Timmons was, he loved his mules. It was the hair from his head with the skin still attached. It's called scalping. These are the Lakota people. "Having Medicine" isn't the same as having medication. It's difficult to explain. Think along the lines of, medication (medicine) can cure sickness so medicine is a good thing. If a Person has Medicine then they are someone who can bring good things. There's also a spiritual aspect and...well the idea of Medicine is very complex. "I am Wind In His Hair! Do you see that I am not afraid of you?!" Remember this. If you've seen the movie Independence Day, Stands With A Fist plays the First Lady. Boy! You best learn Two Socks' name before the end of this movie. You keep calling him White Socks and we gonna have to fight! 😄 Your understanding of this movie is Fantastic. The Chief is Ten Bears. However, Stone Calf was one of the elders and a man of High Regard in the tribe. RIP Stone Calf. Wind In His Hair(Paraphrased): "It has been hard for me to like you. Now I think he went away because you were coming." Such a good scene. RIP Cisco. RIP Two Socks The only Soldier that didn't really deserve to die was the one that died first. Smiles A Lot, smiles no more. "I am Wind In His Hair! Do you see that I am your friend?!" Early on you called that this would NOT be a "White Savior" movie. You were correct. You also called the wholesale slaughter of the Buffalo (Bison) as a method of wiping out the Indigenous People.
Osiyo! (Cherokee for hello) As a half-bred, half Cherokee and half White, you should read a history book on Native American peoples. A real book, not just Wikipedia or something else off the internet that can be edited by anyone with a backspace key. You are stating some big misconceptions about people on both sides. Blonde, or red-haired children were often taken after raids, or after disease outbreaks that would have left them orphaned and alone. The plains Indians, particularly the Pawnee, were.... intense. My grandmother who was full Cherokee said that the Pawnee were the Indians that other Indians were cautious of. The tribe represented in this movie are Lakota Sioux. But remember, it is a movie. It is the plastic-fake Hollywood spin on what it was like. And they will do anything to make a buck.
Dude you reacted to this like at least 9 months ago....... 🤨 Pls. If you're gonna repost... For any reason... Pls state that it's a repost at least. 🤨🤨🤨
Great reaction Frank. I like how you said you’ve never seen anything quite like it - it’s got some problems and some white savior issues, but like you said there’s still never been anything else like it. I can’t think of many other mainstream movies where US soldiers are the villains and audiences cheer when they get killed. Also I used to count the number of times Dances with Wolves gets hit in the head so good on you for calling that out. Ouch
Great reaction to a very good film. You really get it man! However you neglected a very subtle moment. When Wind in His Hair talks about his best friend who was married to Stands With a Fist and had been killed. He said that he was my friend but I think he went away because you were coming. This is a great example of fatalism in Aboriginal cultures.
Sioux tribe. In fact , Sioux Nation made Costner an honorary Sioux after this masterpiece. The Pawnee were the warlike nation. Hollywood would not give Kevin any backing so he used his own funds to create this. Eventually Orion Studios, who were failing, took a gamble on it.
First peoples in the New World have very different ideas of ownership, property, and real estate from the European traditions. There were many places where intercultural blindness and ignorance caused unfortunate consequences up to and including forced indoctrination, enslavement, and genocides of native cultures. If humans didn't lie to ourselves, we might be able to understand strangers better. But we have to evolve past being human, first, I guess. The best we can hope for is a moderation and stabilization of conflicts, but all people will never get along. We have trouble accepting that. For one, there will always be people with ideas or experiences that strain the sanity or imagination of most people. And there will always be some people who are strained by the ideas and sanity of most people. It would be nice if we could get past scapegoating others, at least, but that's still something each generation seems to have to relearn. I wish we could just remember that there will always be gaps in understanding, even between good people, and it could be irreconcilable, but that still doesn't mean anybody is wrong. It should mean that somebody is wrong, it should be that if you try, you could always get over your differences. And you can, but there are limits on how much you can reasonably push someone to try. Human limits on sanity too, how much we can face, how much we can process. It should be possible to get over our differences, but not until we all get past being human.
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For another great movie which you will see a small connection (but I won't say in what way to avoid spoilers) check out JoJo Rabbit. Go completely blind and be ready for a hell of a trip I don't consider this movie real "western" in the sense of the stereotype. I guess I just consider it a drama. For a GREAT western (more close to what most people think of when they hear "western" DEFINITELY check out Tombstone, based on real events.
I'll tell you a Secret, it's sad but not one country, not one émpire on the face of this planet since the beginning of time has ever existed without war and conquest. Not saying it's right but that's human nature. How does the saying go?, Ideals are mostly peaceful but the history of that is always violent!
Your conjecture is distracting for some of us. I know that it's required, but could you please tone it down a bit? Most of the answers you seek are contained within the story and I don't really understand the purpose of you describing everything that we all are looking at. This is meant to be a cordial and personal request. If it doesn't change anything, neither of us is the worse for it. Other than that, thanks for the upload and the reaction.
The role of the pawnee chief was playing by Wes Study. He once got an honorary Oscar for his work in movies. He speaks several native languages. When he got his Oscar he said: it’s about time (saying between the lines that native Americans actors etc are not respected in Hollywood)
They’re Lakota. They and their cousins, the Dakota, controlled the middle of the North American continent. The reason Wind in His Hair doesn’t kill Dunbar at first is because in their culture it’s braver to face an enemy and stand your ground or even just touch them rather than kill them. The French (who we’re trading with them since the 1600s) called it counting coup.
Counting Coup.
Costner said had he known how difficult making a movie of this scope would be, he’d had never tried. Just the wide shots with all the animals and extras, at exactly the right time of day to get the perfect lighting, etc. He said they tried using coyotes and wolf/dog hybrids for Two Socks, but they just didn’t look real, so they used real wolves.
I lived in this area when the film was made. They are Sioux. I’ve seen “Wind In His Hair” (Rodney Grant) in a local store, in Chadron, Ne. I LOVE this movie!!
When you described the indigenous/white history as ‘such a great loss’ it gave me chills. You are so right. It’s a tragedy and it was a true disservice the early American settlers did to their descendants.
You have seen the actor who plays "Kicking Bird" before. His name is Graham Greene and he was the first inmate executed in "The Green Mile". Dances with Wolves won a lot of Academy Awards including Best Picture and a Best Director Oscar for Kevin Costner. All were well deserved in my opinion. Graham Greene was nominated for Best Supporting Actor but didn't win. The whole cast was so talented and believable in each role they played. Wes Studi, the actor who played the Pawnee warrior that was killed in the river with the Souix warriors surrounding him has been in many movies. He was also the Pawnee that attacked Christine's family and killed the foul man who brought Lt. Dunbar west to his new post. Great reaction to this epic story!
Graham was also the shaman , Leonard, in Northern Exposure.
You’re one of the few people I’ve seen who realized this. 😊
Edgar Montrose in the Red Green Show
Greene in Clearcut haunts me to this day. Peace, all 💕
i don't think he was the same one who attacked the family earlier
I'm Blackfoot (native american) I love it when i see someone who truly gets it.
I love this movie, my top 5 films of all time. You will love this ❤
pretty sure Stands with a Fist was not attempting suicide, but was self-mutilating, as this was done in some tribes when in grief (or mourning)
Really? Thanks for sharing.
Many warriors cut themselves before battle because in battle, they won't care about being hurt and keep fighting (Hand to Hand)
@@malaware5341 no she had lost her husband. She was trying to take her life.
This was a theme that tied the movie together. He had tried to take his life at the start of the film. So they had that in common. It was something that built a bridge between them.
They mention in the movie that she had been in mourning and that she had not been the same since her husband was killed.
@@TexasTigressDesigns "In "Dances with Wolves," Stands With A Fist is not committing suicide. Instead, she is mourning the loss of her husband and expressing her grief through a traditional mourning ritual. This involves cutting her arms, which is a cultural practice among her people to show deep sorrow and respect for the deceased. It's a powerful scene that highlights the depth of her emotions and the cultural significance of her actions."
@@TexasTigressDesigns so sorry, but you are mistaken, it still ties it together though, as white people dont understand this ritual, and would think it was suicide
I’ve never seen any reactors do Lonesome Dove. It’s a western miniseries with an utterly epic cast (Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones, Danny Glover, Angelica Houston, Diane Lane…). If this is a genre you end up liking, please look into it!
The mini-series ran several hours. A reaction might not be an option. Too bad, since it was an excellent story.
That would be a great reaction series. Frank you should try it. Came from a great novel and Duvall said it was his favorite role
Agreed. Best western ever made.
@@Melly3112-ox3eyIt just needs to be broken down into segments, just like it was aired on TV.
It would be as easy as watching a series that runs 5 seasons(Breaking Bad)..
The actress who places Stands with a Fist was the President’s wife in the film Independence Day…Mary McDonnell.
Also she was in a favorite, underrated movie from 1991, "Grand Canyon" - Danny Glover, Kevin Kline, Steve Martin, Mary McDonnell, Mary-Louise Parker, Alfre Woodard, Jeremy Sisto, Tina Lifford...
Outstanding. It won several Oscars including Best Director Oscar for Costner. Loved your reaction.
We had this on VHS when I was a kid. It was one of those movies that was so long it took 2 tapes. They perfectly ended the first tape in a spot where you absolutely HAD to keep watching the second one. I remember the Gangs of New York DVD being a two parter as well, but I would usually just stop watching after disc one.
The Film Score by John Barry can't be celebrated enough.
"Journey to Ft Sedgwick" gets me in the feels with the visuals of the great open plains.
The actors are speaking a dialect of Lakota Sioux, which was taught by Doris Leader Charge; the white-haired elderly woman who appears in the film several times.
The film was written by one of Costner's friends, Micheal Blake.
Kevin has recalled in television interviews that he had recently had a falling out with Blake - gave some tough love. Told him to go away write something.
When the Blake retuned, he had written DWW.
Costner was so proud of his friend and he paid for the film himself to make sure it got made.
The buffalo hunting scenes were filmed over a four day period and could only be done once per day.
The prop Buffalo seen collapsing to the ground are being thrown off of the back of a pick up truck, just outside the cameras view.
The character of "stands with a fist" is very loosely based on a woman named Cynthia Anne Parker.
Parker's pioneer family was raided by Comanches and she was taken as a child slave and later adopted.
She eventually married the chief of the Comanche nation and was the mother of the last chief, Quanah Parker.
I think you'll find that most native cultures were just as brutal and just as expansionist as the white people everyone seems to be fixated on in this era.
There is an excellent book, called "Empire of the Summer Moon" - which covers the history of the Comanches and their last chief Quanah Parker.
The war is the Civil War - 1861 to 1865 - between the North (blueish uniforms) and the South (grayish uniforms) which had many issues, but mainly is considered about whether the US should get rid of slavery in all states and stay as one country (as President Abraham Lincoln was promoting) - the stand which the North, or Unionists wanted, or to keep slavery as the “Confederacy” wanted which meant that states (mostly in the south or southwest) would have to separate from the US and have their own country keeping slavery as legal. The Union (northern ) forces had more access to modern industrial infrastructure, weaponry, military equipment, technical advancements and about double the troops, so it eventually won, but it did take several years and cost over 600,00 lives and devastated most of the South. The Confederacy surrendered in April 1865.
In 1863 Lincoln had passed the Emancipation Proclamation which stated that enslaved people were free and that slave-owning was now illegal. (This gave rise in recent decades for the ‘Juneteenth’ celebration when Texas was the last state to eliminate slavery on June 19.) The 13th Amendment was passed in December 1865 which abolished slavery in the entire country. Obviously there are weaknesses, flaws, overlooked issues, unanswered troubles, continuing problems, in all of this, which the US struggles with even today. Everything connected with Native peoples living in the US was not addressed by the struggles in the Civil War, so this film picks up another ongoing problem in society.
Thank you, Frank. Great reaction. Happy New Year to you and yours!
This movie is in my top 3 all time. I watched at least a half dozen times in the theater when it came out and countless times since.
The final scenes (the Winter Camp) were filmed in the beautiful Spearfish Canyon in the Black Hills area of South Dakota, not far from Devil’s Tower, near the border of South Dakota and Wyoming. Parts of Spearfish Canyon are 12 times older than parts of the Grand Canyon.
Fantastic movie pick from your Patreon. This is a classic and its Kevin Costner at his finest.
Love this movie! Great choice.
I enjoyed your reaction and commentary on this classic film. It's a favorite of mine. Though I was a little surprised when you said this was your first western. I've been following your reactions of The Wire which is one of two of my all-time favorite series. The other is Deadwood, which is also from HBO. And it's a western. The Wire and Deadwood are very different on the surface. But what they have in common is they both look behind the curtain of genre' tropes and make critical observations about society. The Wire does it with law and order type cop shows. Deadwood does something similar, though in a more fantastical way, in an old west setting. But it too is based on real characters from history. I think you'd enjoy it. The writing and dialogue are exceptional. Maybe try on episode 1 for size and see if you want to continue.
I adore this movie, and it's criminal so few people react to it! I was actually just hoping for a new reaction to it just the other day, so this is perfect timing :) Most of the horses in this film were provided by the family of my childhood best friend. She actually had a signed polaroid of Kevin Costner from when her family got to meet him. Apparently he was a very friendly guy and was both very tired from the shoot and super passionate about the project.
That being said, some of his behavior since this film suggests to me he didn't fully take the lesson of his own film to heart. He was given honorary tribal membership by a group of Natives who appreciated the film, but he hasn't been particularly respectful about that, and has opened up casinos that compete with Native ones. It's legally within his right, otherwise they'd stop him, but. . . casinos are a major source of income for Natives, and the way a lot of tribes are set up, all members of the tribe (most of whom live near the poverty line) get a chunk of the profits. So he, a rich white man who does not need the money, is taking from poor Native people who do. And I don't feel comfortable lauding the film without pointing out the hypocritical nature of the man who made it.
Great reaction, as always! :)
Your pointing out Costner's hypocrisy has altered my opinion of the man. However, it doesn't effect my opinion of this film. Just seeing two favorites, Graham Green and Tantoo Cardinal makes it worthwhile. Also staying true to Indigenous values as they were in the past...and sometimes still are. We owe so much.
@@Melly3112-ox3ey Agreed. I still love the film. It's both beautiful and genuinely entertaining.
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Yaaay finally, this is such a good movie!
Never though the of the relationship between Arrival and Dances with Wolves. It makes perfect sense. One was about America's greatest sin and the other is about America's current sin - In a sense - they are both close - about communication and understanding or at least openness. Bravo! Keep this up!
I love how Timmins, even though he is a disgusting goofball, shows genuine concern for Dunbar and even tries to talk him out of staying at the fort.
The start of this is set during American Civil War 1861-1865.
This is such an excellent movie, I also thoroughly enjoyed his movie Open Range (2003), and Costner was part of the cast in my husband's favorite Western, Silverado (1985).
When it comes to Westerns I recommend: Little Big Man (1970), The Magnificent Seven (original 1960), True Grit (remake 2010), Tombstone (1993), The Cowboys (1972), and the spaghetti Westerns: A Fist Full of Dollars (1964), For a Few Dollars More (1965), The Good The Bad, and the Ugly (1966).
One of my all time favorite movies is the neo-Western mystery, Lone Star (1996), and other neo-Westerns I recommend are Thunder Heart (1992), Wind River (2017).
U are an old soul. Thanks. Keep up the search.
One of my favorite movies with Out of Africa with Meryl Streep and Robert Redford.
I think you should react to Out of Africa.i sure you will loved it.
The opening is set during the American Civil War.
You're absolutely correct about how horrible it was for the unjustified taking of native humans' lives & lands.
It's Sinful.
And in learning there were many tribes who fought against each other for similar reasons that were practically neighbors within distant miles apart. Some tribes taking the survivors as their slaves.
I never thought that within every country, the villages & tribes fought against one another, battling over and again instead of peacefully joining & benefitting from their combined experiences. Instead of murdering for lands to expand their pride and turning the week concord people into slaves and servants, believing controlling power is vindicated and justified.
Why do you think those historical events were not taught in school. So we could learn early how wrong it is before falling for some groups' ideals of what should be....
As a Native American (Blackfeet/Blood ) i dont need to travel i learn so much from the ppl here in North America
Hi Franklin,
Thank you for another great reaction. When I first saw this movie in the theater back then in 1990 I wasn't fully aware of the history of the native Americans. But Kevin Costner did a series afterwards, called "500 Nations". To learn more you might want to take a look at it.
And as you are on a row with movies about communication, you might want to watch "Enemy Mine" by Wolfgang Petersen, starring Dennis Quaid and Louis Gossett Jr.
Keep up the good work. Always looking forward to see your point of view on lots of my favorite movies.
Greetings from Germany - Rick
You’d also like the Last Samurai (if you haven’t seen it) and Yellowstone (and its spin offs. One is set on the Frontier).
Wow, what great insights you have. I'm very glad I watched your reacition.
I used to rewatch this movie so many times when I was a kid! 💖
Somehow, I never even realized this counts as a Western, I have zero idea why I didn't. 😅 Lol
I guess my brain just thinks more of movies like 'The Quick and the Dead'(another one I used to rewatch so many times when I was young) or something when when I hear "Western", but it makes sense there's probably so much more that counts.
I used to just watch and read basically everything and anything without knowing what genre they were or weren't. 😂
Two Socks is so heartbreaking because the beautiful bond DWW builds with him is why he was trusting and close enough to humans that got him killed. I think it on some level represents a similar danger DWW fears he could unintentionally put the tribe in because of his presence.
I'm relieved that it shows 2 socks alive at the very end...clearly we could hear him get injured by the shooting, happily he survived that ❤️🩹
Unforgiven, starring and directed by Clint Eastwood, and Open Range, with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall, are both great westerns.
The long cut of this movie is over 4 hrs long. I have all 3 cuts but the long is the one I prefer. Kevin went way out of his way to make everything authentic. Ten Bears' wife is Doris Leader Charge and was teaching Lakota to the cast members and when they were found by Kevin to not be studying hard enough, threatened to fire every one of them if they didn't improve their study ethic. Several are actually Lakota and were embarrassed that didn't know their own native tongue.
One of my favorite movies. Based on a book. Read the book ❤️
"Sort of" similar movie to recommend: Open Range
Oscar Howe at The Plains Art Museum, I lived a couple of blocks from it in college. Thank you for the great reaction.
Love this movie!!!!!🍿 in my top 5! 😊
Please watch Spirit: A Journey in Dance, Drums, and Song. It's not a film, but a PBS recording of a live presentation. Peace, all 💕
Not good advice about a bear, depends on the type of bear and what it's actions are. Usually always best to be non confrontational, not aggressive.
Listening to you talk about movies that humanize and are about communication, I'm sure you would like, my all time favorite, The Station Agent (2003), and, The Wedding Banquet (1993). More excellent movies I recommend are: The Perks of Being a Wallflower (2012), The Way You Look Tonight (2019), Sweet Land (2005).
When you spoke about the question posed to your friend of feelings like, "I'm fighting for my country, yes, but I'm killing innocent people, people who never had a grudge towards me ... " I immediately thought about the job interview monologue by Matt Damon in, Good Will Hunting (1997). That movie also has one of the best monologues ever in the scene on the park bench with Robin Williams character.
The main actor in this movie is Kevin Costner another great great movie he is in probably his best with this movie is Field Of Dreams one of the best movies ever
The native people of the continent on which I live were and are far more evolved human beings than my kin can ever claim to be.
This is gonna be a long post so I apologize in advance. I do have it broken down into small sections. This is one of my favorite movies of all time so I have a lot to say.
This is towards the end of the Civil War.
I'm curious where you are from. Your accent is familiar. Nigerian?
As Foul as Timmons was, he loved his mules.
It was the hair from his head with the skin still attached. It's called scalping.
These are the Lakota people.
"Having Medicine" isn't the same as having medication. It's difficult to explain. Think along the lines of, medication (medicine) can cure sickness so medicine is a good thing. If a Person has Medicine then they are someone who can bring good things. There's also a spiritual aspect and...well the idea of Medicine is very complex.
"I am Wind In His Hair! Do you see that I am not afraid of you?!" Remember this.
If you've seen the movie Independence Day, Stands With A Fist plays the First Lady.
Boy! You best learn Two Socks' name before the end of this movie. You keep calling him White Socks and we gonna have to fight! 😄
Your understanding of this movie is Fantastic.
The Chief is Ten Bears. However, Stone Calf was one of the elders and a man of High Regard in the tribe. RIP Stone Calf.
Wind In His Hair(Paraphrased): "It has been hard for me to like you. Now I think he went away because you were coming." Such a good scene.
RIP Cisco.
RIP Two Socks
The only Soldier that didn't really deserve to die was the one that died first.
Smiles A Lot, smiles no more.
"I am Wind In His Hair! Do you see that I am your friend?!"
Early on you called that this would NOT be a "White Savior" movie. You were correct. You also called the wholesale slaughter of the Buffalo (Bison) as a method of wiping out the Indigenous People.
Oh nice. I fucking love dances with wolves. Great movie
Another classic....are you doing the extended version?
It hurts hearing this referred to as one of those "old movies."
@@BouillaBased it doesn’t mean old = bad
@@FrankFreezy_ Yeah, I wasn't assuming that it did. But I was in college when this came out!
Osiyo! (Cherokee for hello)
As a half-bred, half Cherokee and half White, you should read a history book on Native American peoples. A real book, not just Wikipedia or something else off the internet that can be edited by anyone with a backspace key. You are stating some big misconceptions about people on both sides. Blonde, or red-haired children were often taken after raids, or after disease outbreaks that would have left them orphaned and alone. The plains Indians, particularly the Pawnee, were.... intense. My grandmother who was full Cherokee said that the Pawnee were the Indians that other Indians were cautious of. The tribe represented in this movie are Lakota Sioux. But remember, it is a movie. It is the plastic-fake Hollywood spin on what it was like. And they will do anything to make a buck.
You should react to reservation dogs yall. Many of the same natives in it.
If you loved ARRIVAL, you must watch its godfather, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND. Speaking of beautiful cosmic diplomacy...
Great suggestion!
Dude you reacted to this like at least 9 months ago....... 🤨 Pls. If you're gonna repost... For any reason... Pls state that it's a repost at least. 🤨🤨🤨
Great reaction Frank. I like how you said you’ve never seen anything quite like it - it’s got some problems and some white savior issues, but like you said there’s still never been anything else like it. I can’t think of many other mainstream movies where US soldiers are the villains and audiences cheer when they get killed. Also I used to count the number of times Dances with Wolves gets hit in the head so good on you for calling that out. Ouch
I love @foxtaco So glad you two have a relationship
Maybe I'm tripping but is this an old reaction? 🤔 🤷♂️
Yes it is😂
Great reaction to a very good film. You really get it man! However you neglected a very subtle moment. When Wind in His Hair talks about his best friend who was married to Stands With a Fist and had been killed. He said that he was my friend but I think he went away because you were coming. This is a great example of fatalism in Aboriginal cultures.
Sioux tribe. In fact , Sioux Nation made Costner an honorary Sioux after this masterpiece.
The Pawnee were the warlike nation.
Hollywood would not give Kevin any backing so he used his own funds to create this. Eventually Orion Studios, who were failing, took a gamble on it.
If you like a deep movie.. Cloud Atlas is good too.
Cloud Atlas is a gem, I don't understand why so few have reacted to this masterpiece
It was the Civil War in the beginning..
I know FoxTaco!!!
There are definitely different types of westerns.this one is a sweeping epic,while others are more gritty and brutal
Civil War north vs. south
whats with the re-upload?
Re upload? You reacted to this months ago.
27:55 Rescued? How so?
You know, after they threw a tomahawk in her dad’s back they rescued her.
@@superthrustjon different tribe I believe
First peoples in the New World have very different ideas of ownership, property, and real estate from the European traditions. There were many places where intercultural blindness and ignorance caused unfortunate consequences up to and including forced indoctrination, enslavement, and genocides of native cultures.
If humans didn't lie to ourselves, we might be able to understand strangers better. But we have to evolve past being human, first, I guess. The best we can hope for is a moderation and stabilization of conflicts, but all people will never get along. We have trouble accepting that. For one, there will always be people with ideas or experiences that strain the sanity or imagination of most people. And there will always be some people who are strained by the ideas and sanity of most people. It would be nice if we could get past scapegoating others, at least, but that's still something each generation seems to have to relearn.
I wish we could just remember that there will always be gaps in understanding, even between good people, and it could be irreconcilable, but that still doesn't mean anybody is wrong. It should mean that somebody is wrong, it should be that if you try, you could always get over your differences. And you can, but there are limits on how much you can reasonably push someone to try. Human limits on sanity too, how much we can face, how much we can process. It should be possible to get over our differences, but not until we all get past being human.
Just found the channel
Some ideas:
(Prob seen some)
Movies:
Captain Fantastic
Chronicle
National Lampoons Going The Distance
Eurotrip
Road Trip
American Pie(1,2,3, Band Camp, Reunion)
My Boss's Daughter
Dirty Deeds
The Girl Next Door
National Lampoons Van Wilder
National Lampoons Barely Legal
National Lampoons Dorm Daze
Faculity
Scouts Guide to the zombie apocalypse
The Hunt
Kill Bill
Jojo Rabbit
Saving Silverman
There is something about Mary
Holidate
Love hard
Sex Drive
Toy Soldiers
White Water Summer
Sugar & Spice
Good Luck Chuck
Good Will Hunting
The Accountant
Hitman(2007)
The Host
Gone Girl
Ghost
Sole Survivor
Pulp Fiction
Varsity Blues
Lone Star State Of Mind
Deuce Bigalow
Just Friends
Date Night
Friends with benefits
A Guy Thing
Just Go With It
The Bounty Hunter
The Ugly Truth
The Rundown
Shanghai Noon/Knights
The Tuxedo
The Medallion
Accepted
Bring it on
Fired Up
Disturbia
Silver Bullet
Extraction (1&2)
Hanna
Anna
Red Sparrow
Wild America
Without a Paddle
Man of the House
Grind
Stan Hellsing(Helsing?)
Ready or Not
Fear
The Crush
Knights of Badassdom
We're The Miller
Abigail
Summer of the Monkeys
Happy Death Day
Doctor Sleep
The Scream franchise (1-3)
Friday the 13th(2,4,6,7,8,X, Freddy Vs Jason)
A nightmare on elm Street (1,3,4, A New Nightmare)
Halloween(1,2,H20, Rob Zombie, The new trilogy)
The Devil's Rejects
Tv:
Kyle XY
Smallville
Buffy The Vampire Slayer
Haunting of Hill House
Midnight Mass
Frequency
A discovery of witches
South of hell
Game Of Thrones
Castle
Mentalist
Greek
The Queen's Gambit
The Order
Sabrina The Teenage Witch
Stranger Things
Love, Death and Robots
Emily in Paris
The Vampire Diaries
Wednesday
Charmed
Orange in the new black
Supernatural
One Tree Hill
Forever
Hellcats
Locke & Key
You S1-S3
Bones
Dexter
Killing Eve
Gillmore Girls
Gossip Girl
Heroes
Shameless
Ghost Whisperer
Mindhunter
Jessica Jones
Daredevil
Relic Hunter
Limitless
Point Plesant
Anime:
One Piece
Jujutsu Kiasen
Tensei Slime
So I'm a spider, so what
Mushuko Tensei
Seven Deadly Sins
Danmachi
Emmenance in Shadow
To Your Eternity
Dororo
Inyusha
Reincarnated as a sword
Demon Slayer
Overlord
My instant death ability is op
Samurai champloo
Rising of the shield hero
From common place to world's strongest
Peach boy riverside
Darling in the franxx
Vivy Flourentine
Spirit Chronicles
(Premade list)
For another great movie which you will see a small connection (but I won't say in what way to avoid spoilers) check out JoJo Rabbit. Go completely blind and be ready for a hell of a trip
I don't consider this movie real "western" in the sense of the stereotype. I guess I just consider it a drama.
For a GREAT western (more close to what most people think of when they hear "western" DEFINITELY check out Tombstone, based on real events.
She was trying to kill herself because her husband was just killed but we didn’t see that
❤❤❤❤ I love your reaction 🙏🙏🙏🙏🥰🥰
Woohee!
Is this deja-vu or did you upload this earlier?
Its a reupload😂
@TheSicilianMelody holy moly I was really questioning reality...
@@SuviMatinaroI feel u, i ask myself the same almost every day😂
Civil War, the North and South. Part of slavery taken away. President Abraham Lincoln. 😐
Great History!
I'll tell you a Secret, it's sad but not one country, not one émpire on the face of this planet since the beginning of time has ever existed without war and conquest. Not saying it's right but that's human nature. How does the saying go?, Ideals are mostly peaceful but the history of that is always violent!
Your conjecture is distracting for some of us. I know that it's required, but could you please tone it down a bit? Most of the answers you seek are contained within the story and I don't really understand the purpose of you describing everything that we all are looking at. This is meant to be a cordial and personal request. If it doesn't change anything, neither of us is the worse for it. Other than that, thanks for the upload and the reaction.
Shogun of u want more language barrier learning.
AMERICAN CIVIL WAR
Trump , Vance , Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy , and Maga supporters suck big time and they need to watch this movie over and over..🙄
Dude too much pausing and talking! It's like the teacher in you comes out and is trying to teach us.
I gave it a shot, but you talk too much.