There is no rationale reason to avoid normalizing. It keeps things uniform and tidy . . . ready for mixing. Thanks for the clear, concise tutorial. Excellent. I thought I had to normalize each track in the editing window. Fantastic feature to do it all is one swoop.
Thanks yet again Chris! I had a vocalist try all her mics to compare, and normalizing each region (each mic) allowed us to compare better as the gain of each region was similar!
Oh man! Another feature I wish I knew about 2 years ago. My first thought on watching this was, "you're kidding." So, I just tried out this feature with a new project that has tracks from various sources, and, it felt like I spent a minute to gain stage everything. Whazah! Thank you, Chris, this will save me so much time!
I would question a couple of statements in this video. Yes, Normalize Region Gain is quite useful, but your examples could be misleading. I know "Gain Staging" is the buzzword nowadays, but it just means to "set your levels properly along the signal flow". You are absolutely right about plugins that are based on analog modeling that require attention regarding their input signal. The Loudness setting has nothing to do with RMS. As you can see, it has the unit LUFS, so it is Loudness Meter (I guess it measures "Integrated Loudness"), which is somewhat similar to RMS, but different enough that it should not be confused with RMS). Using the Loudness setting for single tracks of a drum recording is pointless. Applying Track-based normalization on the drum set is also questionable. Your goal during a mix should be to have each fader at its best operation position around 0dB for fine adjustments. There is no use of normalizing the kick and HH individually when the HH fader ends up at -20dB where it is hard to make precise adjustments. Of course, this all depends on your strategy during recording. Do you set the gain of each track to have the best recording level, or do you set all the faders at 0dB and set the Gain accordingly. With 24bit converters you don't have to worry about SNR too much when recording the HH signal at -20dB, so putting all the Faders at 0dB gives you an instant rough mix and starting point when starting mixing and continue the recording/overdub session at a later day.
Chris. Wow. Thank you for doing this. Very well done as well. I searched for this video hoping to find someone who was normalizing all tracks at the start of a mixing project. I have done this by hand using the gain plugin so many times and have never been satisfied with the results. So often during mixing drums I’ve run out of headroom and at that point reducing gain can seriously alter the way the compression (etc) sounds. This is beautiful done. I’m now liked,subbed and will be checking out your other video (not to mention playing around with the loudness option as well). Thanks! PS as you said engineers have been turning up their noses at normalizing. I only started recently using it for voice overs and lesser important things like podcasts, but it got me thinking about it. Glad it did.
Love this feature. Have been using it quite a while now. Never really use it on drums though. I sometimes wish they had a "Post" loudness normalization feature (for use after you've added all your plugins to all your channels). Yes, proper gain-staging should suffice for this feature but, sometimes I still find that I'd like to start mixing volumes from scratch with all the "selected" channels normalized (post plugin).
Can’t work out what Im doing wrong. Meters set to pre-fade, region selected, Whether I apply -18dB or 1dB, no gain or reduction can be seen on the waveform (or heard)
It's a pity that Logic calls it normalising instead of input gain adjustment, which is what it really is. The N word should technically only be used to refer to (destructive) audio signal correction.
Yes. It’s like calling Victoria secret “the whore shop.” Heheh. Women be like “nope. Not for me” just like self respecting engineers be like “no normalizing for me. I’m no rookie.”
when i go to advance it only give ms the option to enable complete features and thats it. When i go to functions I still cant press normalize gain. HELP
hi Chris, i created several tracks, mostly loops from logic, and threw a gain plug in to mess it up. Then i did the normalize just as you suggested, and it does nothing. What could i be doing wrong?
help my normalize gain doesnot work on logic 6.4. No matter what value i give on normalize gain. it boost 9.8 db everytime though i change input value.
So i have no 3rd party plug-ins. All stock logic plug-ins. Should i leave faders at 0 and use -18db as a target starting level or does that even matter and use the faders as volume control?
It doesnt matter at all, as long as you are not clipping. However, good gain staging would mean that you set your levens to -18 RMS (not peak value!). Depending on the source and instrument, you should aim for -12/-10dB Peak
Looks like a great feature for podcasters, maybe not always for music. “Gain staging” is adjusting the gain of each stage in a signal path to minimize both noise and distortion (to look at it practical terms) or to run each amplifier in its most efficient range (the technical point of view). Jacking up an instrument that’s supposed to be quiet would often be counterproductive.
New to LPX so this is a great tip for me! QUESTION though: How can I find peaks in the audio region without going into the audio file editor-possible to do that?
Okay dude please help this is a great technique I was using hornet before which is great just it don't go to minus 18 only minus 12 this is great because I can get them to minus 18 just one of my vocal tracks is going to 17.9 not minus 18 but the rest of my tracks are going to minus 18 which is great do you know how I can get my track to minus 18 instead of minus 17.9 using this technique thanks for your great video 😇
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No, please, it hurts
Actually, that was very funny.
Hahahahahaha
That joke is so bad it should be illegal. I hope you’re found and brought to justice.
Couldn't find non-destructive normalization in Logic until watching this. Thanks!!!
There is no rationale reason to avoid normalizing. It keeps things uniform and tidy . . . ready for mixing. Thanks for the clear, concise tutorial. Excellent. I thought I had to normalize each track in the editing window. Fantastic feature to do it all is one swoop.
Yes...extremely eye opening and frankly delivers a change-up to approaching a Static Mix
Absolute mandatory watch. That and the Marquee Tool uses. It’s absolutely necessary to know these tools.
Whaaaaa🤯!!!! I can’t thank you enough for the amount of time this is gonna save me
Thanks yet again Chris! I had a vocalist try all her mics to compare, and normalizing each region (each mic) allowed us to compare better as the gain of each region was similar!
Oh man! Another feature I wish I knew about 2 years ago. My first thought on watching this was, "you're kidding." So, I just tried out this feature with a new project that has tracks from various sources, and, it felt like I spent a minute to gain stage everything. Whazah! Thank you, Chris, this will save me so much time!
I would question a couple of statements in this video.
Yes, Normalize Region Gain is quite useful, but your examples could be misleading. I know "Gain Staging" is the buzzword nowadays, but it just means to "set your levels properly along the signal flow". You are absolutely right about plugins that are based on analog modeling that require attention regarding their input signal.
The Loudness setting has nothing to do with RMS. As you can see, it has the unit LUFS, so it is Loudness Meter (I guess it measures "Integrated Loudness"), which is somewhat similar to RMS, but different enough that it should not be confused with RMS).
Using the Loudness setting for single tracks of a drum recording is pointless.
Applying Track-based normalization on the drum set is also questionable.
Your goal during a mix should be to have each fader at its best operation position around 0dB for fine adjustments. There is no use of normalizing the kick and HH individually when the HH fader ends up at -20dB where it is hard to make precise adjustments.
Of course, this all depends on your strategy during recording. Do you set the gain of each track to have the best recording level, or do you set all the faders at 0dB and set the Gain accordingly. With 24bit converters you don't have to worry about SNR too much when recording the HH signal at -20dB, so putting all the Faders at 0dB gives you an instant rough mix and starting point when starting mixing and continue the recording/overdub session at a later day.
totalmente de acuerdo contigo
Chris. Wow. Thank you for doing this. Very well done as well. I searched for this video hoping to find someone who was normalizing all tracks at the start of a mixing project. I have done this by hand using the gain plugin so many times and have never been satisfied with the results. So often during mixing drums I’ve run out of headroom and at that point reducing gain can seriously alter the way the compression (etc) sounds.
This is beautiful done. I’m now liked,subbed and will be checking out your other video (not to mention playing around with the loudness option as well).
Thanks!
PS as you said engineers have been turning up their noses at normalizing. I only started recently using it for voice overs and lesser important things like podcasts, but it got me thinking about it. Glad it did.
Thank you. I've been looking for hours to find the Normalize function.
Thank you! Never knew about this function. Could be a great time saver.
Thanks for this! Major time saver.
Love this feature. Have been using it quite a while now. Never really use it on drums though.
I sometimes wish they had a "Post" loudness normalization feature (for use after you've added all your plugins to all your channels). Yes, proper gain-staging should suffice for this feature but, sometimes I still find that I'd like to start mixing volumes from scratch with all the "selected" channels normalized (post plugin).
thanks this is better than my previous bounce in place > normalise strategy because it's much more undoable!
I knew about feature but never figured how it worked .. thanks for the knowledge
Great explanation and demonstration!
I think normalization is good if you’re working with a 2 track beat with vocals on top of that it helps save a lot of time
This can be used for a lot of cool shortcuts, you can save on processing power and more by using this as a compressor to keep your peaks from clipping
I have no idea what I'm doing wrong but when I try to do this it hardly effects them, at all (setting it to -18 individual regions) 😣😣
Rad!!!! Using this to even out song/stems for export to playback device u rule!!!!!
Thanks for sharing. Brilliant feature for dialogue editing!
Can’t work out what Im doing wrong. Meters set to pre-fade, region selected, Whether I apply -18dB or 1dB, no gain or reduction can be seen on the waveform (or heard)
Even with all my settings right, when i select a region, normalize is still not there
It's a pity that Logic calls it normalising instead of input gain adjustment, which is what it really is. The N word should technically only be used to refer to (destructive) audio signal correction.
@@G_handle Normalizing can be set to any level you want. But the waveform is permanently altered in the process.
the n word lol
Yes. It’s like calling Victoria secret “the whore shop.” Heheh. Women be like “nope. Not for me” just like self respecting engineers be like “no normalizing for me. I’m no rookie.”
Nothing about the word normalization implies destructive editing.
So Incredibly Helpful!
thank you sooo much. I couldn't figure out why my normalize was gone after I got a new Mac. I was sooo confused. I forgot it was an advanced plug in.
Sooo useful my man tytytytyty 🤩
why doesnt it adjust channels that have gone through a midi channel ?
when i go to advance it only give ms the option to enable complete features and thats it. When i go to functions I still cant press normalize gain. HELP
Very good video helped out a lot appreciate it thank you so much
hi Chris, i created several tracks, mostly loops from logic, and threw a gain plug in to mess it up. Then i did the normalize just as you suggested, and it does nothing. What could i be doing wrong?
help my normalize gain doesnot work on logic 6.4. No matter what value i give on normalize gain. it boost 9.8 db everytime though i change input value.
Always great information. Thanks!
thx for the information, can I use this feature for vocals too?
Thank you So much...very helpful!
Any idea why it goes back to the original volume? For example when I click another clip it removes the normalization
Hi,
What version of logic is this as I can't seem to find this function under the functions drop down menu. I have the 10.3 version.
I have logic 10.4.8 and I have this function. Try updating :)
@@Takarathekoala Thanks
Very helpful, thank you!
this was so helpful thank u!
I also notice that the gain region volume is different from the gain volume of the actual track thats on that same? Hope that made sense
thank you, brother x
Hi does the is work for midi and stuff that has volume automation data written on as well?
In wich situation should i use loud vs peak normalisation ?
Thank you.
Thank you for this!
So if this already exists what’s the big deal about 32 bit float when you could’ve already done this years ago ?
INCREDIBLE!
So i have no 3rd party plug-ins. All stock logic plug-ins. Should i leave faders at 0 and use -18db as a target starting level or does that even matter and use the faders as volume control?
It doesnt matter at all, as long as you are not clipping. However, good gain staging would mean that you set your levens to -18 RMS (not peak value!). Depending on the source and instrument, you should aim for -12/-10dB Peak
When i tried this it didnt work. The gain volume didnt change 💭 are there some settings i may have set up thats stopping me from doin this in logic
Amazing thank you
Thanks!
is there something similar present in other DAWs? this is insanely time saving
Excellent video, thank you.
VOCALS
1. strip silence
2. select all regions
3. normalize
boom
normalize by peak or by loudness though?
if im producing my own tracks and there not too loud or to quiet do i even need to gain stage?
How do u get the colors like that ????
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Looks like a great feature for podcasters, maybe not always for music. “Gain staging” is adjusting the gain of each stage in a signal path to minimize both noise and distortion (to look at it practical terms) or to run each amplifier in its most efficient range (the technical point of view). Jacking up an instrument that’s supposed to be quiet would often be counterproductive.
Not sure if you watched the video, but that wouldn’t be a problem with «collective selection»
Immensely helpful. Thanks.
New to LPX so this is a great tip for me! QUESTION though: How can I find peaks in the audio region without going into the audio file editor-possible to do that?
I love this ❤️
There is something similar in protools?
Thanks.Does this work on comp tracks?
I would bounce the comps to a single audio file then apply normalization
Cris Do you have your own channel I can Subscribe to? I am Switching Too Logic Pro X from StudioOne.
How do you turn this function off once its been turned on?
I guess you do it again with zero
Nice!
Is effecting the pre fader gain or post?
Pre
This is crazy
Oh was this helpful.. NOw I hope I can execute it properly...
How to normalize a midi track
video starts at 1:30 - you're welcome
Damn, I wish *this* kind of a killer feature was introduced in Studio One 5. Someone please tell Presonus :)
Use Logic
Please make a beat on one of my melodies...
Okay dude please help this is a great technique I was using hornet before which is great just it don't go to minus 18 only minus 12 this is great because I can get them to minus 18 just one of my vocal tracks is going to 17.9 not minus 18 but the rest of my tracks are going to minus 18 which is great do you know how I can get my track to minus 18 instead of minus 17.9 using this technique thanks for your great video 😇
Logic have non logical functions :)
why so dificult?
So, the formerly Protools Expert channel, is now making videos about everything but Protools, and seemingly downgraded to Logic Pro?
Lol!
I used to work on Pro Tools and by no means I feel I have downgrated anything the moment I started using Logic.
@@simpleguitarchords4030 For starters, it runs on one OS only. Cross-platform vs. Platform-tied. That's the first downgrading point.
JFC - it only took 2 years to discover this, and it doesn't really help. I'm over Logic, I've had enough of this kludged together piece of crap.