Final Fantasy XVI Echoes of the Fallen Review - Something to Hold Us Over

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @bluewings2
    @bluewings2 10 месяцев назад +20

    Looks like a fun DLC, I'm happy to have new FF16 content.

  • @zuzhi64
    @zuzhi64 10 месяцев назад +13

    This is a fair review imo and I'd also give it an 8/10.
    Although I loved the combat and the intense visual spectacles with mature themes, I think some of that "FF" charm was lost. It is RPG-lite in terms of crafting and stat enhancements, status ailments, which I think could have really made the game more balanced and increase the challenge further.
    This would have pushed it up to 9 for me.
    I did enjoy the story overall from Clive's perspective, but would have loved to see more emphasis from other characters. I did miss the active party system, which would have added more layers to combat.
    And I can't give enough praise to the VAs and to Ben Starr's performance. And what a fantastic performance indeed. Of course, the music was an absolute audio treat and kept me engaged throughout.

    • @Mukation
      @Mukation 9 месяцев назад +1

      It's as if i'm reading my own thoughts when i read your comment. I loved the story and i loved Clive's journey, which is in no small part due to Ben Starr's performance. Not to mention Cid and Ralph Ineson's performance as him.
      But i would have liked to have seen more of what Joshuas had been doing the past 13 years, also Gav and Otto. They get surprisingly little screen time, eventhough they are presented as Clive's best friends and next to Jill, the closest comanders under him.
      Not to mention Jill. She came of very bland, not really fleshed out, which was more than ok from the start given the trauma she had suffered, but she is very much "kept in background" after giving Clive the push he needed to come back "to the living". We get that final scene were Clive and Joshua makes an effort at making Jill happy were she again confesses her love for Clive and how she knew he would always come to her rescue, but that still just left her as the main characters "love interest" and not her own person. There is material to take from, like her friend she told to leave when we infiltrate the base, that we never get to see again.
      Take FF7 as an example, both Tifa and Aerith are love intrests for Cloud through out the story, yet they are also fleshed out as ther own characters beyond their relationship with Cloud.
      I would have preffered _more_ side missions focusing on Jill, Gav and Otto. It's litterally only close to the end of the game where we even get a few scenes were Clive and Gav just hang out as friends and a scene were Otto reads an old letter from CId were we see Clive and Otto show the bond they have built over the years.
      I think i would have given the game a 10/10 if it had the junction system closer to the older FF games with elemental weaknesses and strengths and couple of more interesting side missions with Clive's closer friends. But as it stands now, i agree with your 8/10.

  • @ktynn
    @ktynn 10 месяцев назад +13

    This channel is incredible. I've been following gaming news for two decades now, Gamespot, Gametrailers, Destructoid, Giantbomb, etc. I did not knew I was looking for a channel like this on YT until I found it. Noisy Pixel, Bosman and the occasional ACG and Dunkey video are all I need. Thanks for providing this great content!

    • @PatrikVorg
      @PatrikVorg 10 месяцев назад +1

      Gameranx is a good one too

    • @Kashsneakers
      @Kashsneakers 10 месяцев назад +1

      They messed up with the spiderman 2 review

  • @princegroove
    @princegroove 10 месяцев назад +12

    Nothing brings me more joy and excitement than a new FF installment. Let’s go!

  • @VAANET
    @VAANET 10 месяцев назад +15

    Loved this DLC, wish it was in the base game

  • @MoreLimitless_
    @MoreLimitless_ 10 месяцев назад +3

    Short and cool; so much so that I want to replay it on harder modes and get a high score in Ultimaniac mode. I'm glad criticism's are being capitalized on at least for dlc.

  • @skyrander
    @skyrander 10 месяцев назад +1

    I just finnished FF16 yesterday and the DLC was such a treat foing into FF mode now.
    I think the hifhlights are the battle upgraded which seems really tuned toward upgrading and rewarding your spesific playstyle.
    Plus covering a dtory of what Ultima in the end had to stop going into his slumber.
    Plus the Omega fight!
    I didnt get more then a few game overw in the main game. Bur this were a fifght i got torned apart.....
    A very welcome challenge
    Great dlc for 10$

  • @elisodrakulia
    @elisodrakulia 10 месяцев назад +6

    It was short and sweet haha, i loved it, was fantastic to play with clive and hear Joshua, i love his voice, and play with Torgal... and the final Boss AMAZINGGG!!!! I died several times x__x.. but it wa so dammm satisfying!!

    • @b00g3rs21
      @b00g3rs21 10 месяцев назад

      hmm, but $40 satisfying? seems like a lot to me, for not a lot of content?

    • @craigzorzy2105
      @craigzorzy2105 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@b00g3rs21the DLC $9.99 in the US... IDK where you are but $9.99 is a good value imo.

    • @elisodrakulia
      @elisodrakulia 10 месяцев назад

      @@b00g3rs21 40??? 40 what?? I paid 25 dollars for both dlc .___. If you paid 40, you were scammed!!

    • @b00g3rs21
      @b00g3rs21 10 месяцев назад

      @@craigzorzy2105ohhh I see, fair enough then. I wonder why I was reading $40 on some articles.

    • @craigzorzy2105
      @craigzorzy2105 10 месяцев назад

      @@b00g3rs21 I think they discounted the game to $40 for a limited time for the game awards

  • @TheRealDeal_81
    @TheRealDeal_81 9 месяцев назад

    I’m as die hard an FF fan as anyone out there. And I thought XVI was an excellent game. Was it perfect? No, far from it. But I appreciate the risks that Squenix took to mix up the formula, and while it’s not your usual FF game, they hit a lot more than they missed with this entry. The combat system probably being the most standout feature of the game.
    As for the DLC, it might have been short, but it was definitely sweet. And the final battle with Omega was undoubtedly the highlight. I did expect more of a challenge based on the reviews - I beat Omega on my first attempt in both normal and FF mode - but it wasn’t a walk in the park either. The one negative I have about it is the accessories you find in the Sagespire are a bit OP (well, a lot OP) and make it a lot easier. But overall, it was a great addition to the game’s lore and brought some much needed additional challenge factor to it. Can’t wait for The Rising Tide DLC!

  • @GamerGuyOG
    @GamerGuyOG 10 месяцев назад +5

    A 3 hour dlc is not going to hold me over

    • @Bahamut998
      @Bahamut998 10 месяцев назад +1

      It's supposed to be an appetizer for the Spring 2024 massive Leviathan DLC.

  • @BigGreenThreads
    @BigGreenThreads 10 месяцев назад +2

    DLC aside they really should have added a way to skip any and all cutscenes, even those horrendous mid fight ones with this update. You won't like this game very much when you have fought through kupka for 4 hours straight trying to no damage, cause at least 1 of those hours has been kupka finding out that the world has chosen, he is in fact in his element.

  • @Killerboyh
    @Killerboyh 10 месяцев назад +12

    Definitely will be checking this out

    • @NoisyPixelNews
      @NoisyPixelNews  10 месяцев назад +5

      it makes for a decent weekend release, but some might want to wait for the more substantial 2nd part of the update, well, hopefully substantial

    • @wood1066
      @wood1066 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@NoisyPixelNewsi believe in a recent interview they said the second DLC will be around 10 hours long and have sidequest.

    • @eazybaby5094
      @eazybaby5094 10 месяцев назад

      @@wood1066 this would be awesome. I would hope they take criticism into account and make optional areas like caves/dungeons to find in the New World space. Stuff to make it feel more RPG-like

    • @wood1066
      @wood1066 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@eazybaby5094 Me too, but this DLC showed that they listen to the criticism about how most accessories in the game were just stat and damage boost. All the new accessories in the DLC actually give really good gameplay changing effects.

  • @ayushnegi7477
    @ayushnegi7477 10 месяцев назад +1

    The game is good. No doubt. But they really need to fix darkness\ blackness in the environments. Too dark env. Just leave the special effects to be visible most of the times.

  • @nunuonroad9969
    @nunuonroad9969 10 месяцев назад

    I really enjoyed this game but I’m hoping in the next game they expand the RPG elements. I love the combat, but I want more build variety than just accessories and Eikon combinations. How about gear that actually impacts your stats differently? Gives you unique abilities that can change your play style. More weapons than just your sword. God of War Ragnarok has more but variety than FF16 and that’s disappointing. I think taking the franchise in that direction will satisfy both fanbases.

  • @TheDJMeyer85
    @TheDJMeyer85 9 месяцев назад

    I wanted to like FF16 so bad and I was loving it the first several hours but as I reached midway I was finding myself not enjoying it as much and then by the end it just felt like an obligation to complete. More power to those who liked it but this was not for me

  • @sacb0y
    @sacb0y 10 месяцев назад

    I did not realize this was already out

  • @fuzzytaco206
    @fuzzytaco206 10 месяцев назад +1

    Should have named FF16: Final May Cry or Devil Fantasy

  • @deadspace_658
    @deadspace_658 10 месяцев назад +1

    Now we wait to clap leviathans cheeks and who knows maybe well get new dialog for the ending cause now clive should be a complete vessal

    • @mckloggins
      @mckloggins 10 месяцев назад

      Would be cool if they added an alternative ending

    • @Bahamut998
      @Bahamut998 10 месяцев назад

      I'm curious to see who is Leviathan's Dominant.
      I'm guessing a female Mysidian.

    • @deadspace_658
      @deadspace_658 10 месяцев назад

      @mckloggins or they don't, and we see clive get eaten by coconut crabs again

  • @calvinmatthews1527
    @calvinmatthews1527 10 месяцев назад

    Better than that Tales of Arise DLC, I know that.

  • @luciosemirsahagun8376
    @luciosemirsahagun8376 10 месяцев назад +1

    👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 love this DLC

  • @ertai222
    @ertai222 10 месяцев назад +1

    So if I've beaten the game and completed every side quest will i be able to access this dlc?

    • @howtodismantleanatom
      @howtodismantleanatom 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes you will. Once you load a cleared game save file it puts you back before the final battle and it will trigger the quest.

  • @SSJCyan
    @SSJCyan 10 месяцев назад +2

    Eh wasnt bad but way too short

  • @eazybaby5094
    @eazybaby5094 10 месяцев назад +5

    I hate that so many hatrers feel they have to make their opinion heard. We don’t care if you don’t wanna play the DLC bro. Go watch something you like.

    • @mckloggins
      @mckloggins 10 месяцев назад

      Especially when the review itself is positive

    • @AronKjösnes
      @AronKjösnes 10 месяцев назад +1

      Imagine if someone said: "I hate that so many fanboys feel they have to make their opinion heard. We don't care if you like the DLC bro." To try and silence completely fair criticism for a painfully mediocre game isn't just immature, but something that will end up hurting you in the end. The reason why we voice our opinions is that we see the flaws, and believe that SE can do better. And if you silence those who voice said opinions (out of their love for the franchise, mind you!), that will leave SE complacent and lazy. And then, guess what? One day you might end up as one of us, a part of the voiceless crowd moving away from the franchises we've grown up with and loved.

    • @eazybaby5094
      @eazybaby5094 10 месяцев назад

      @@AronKjösnes scores don’t agree w/ you so sounds like a you problem. No matter how much y’all whine, y’all are still the minority opinion. So kick rocks.

    • @eazybaby5094
      @eazybaby5094 10 месяцев назад

      @@AronKjösnes and I say this as someone who has my own problems with the game, such as lack of optional areas & exploration, & lack of cosmetics. Still a good game tho

    • @AronKjösnes
      @AronKjösnes 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@eazybaby5094 if we're really such a minority, then why are you complaining in the first place? Also, I don't care with so-called "scores" disagree with me. Modern gaming media are mostly just shills with no respect to gaming as an art form.

  • @Boss_Fight_Index_muki
    @Boss_Fight_Index_muki 10 месяцев назад +5

    Traded my copy for Armored Core 6, guess i won't be playing this FF16 DLC.

  • @SwobyJ
    @SwobyJ 10 месяцев назад +8

    Easily the most skippable FF for me. It'll happen for me one day, on strong discount, on PC, years from now.

    • @minisnee
      @minisnee 10 месяцев назад +1

      Why do you not like it?

    • @HardboiledBread
      @HardboiledBread 10 месяцев назад +6

      It feels like a spin off rather than a main entry, i dont blame you at all. The first 5 hours are interesting but it very quickly becomes methodical and bland, and the art direction/design doesn’t do it any favors either.

    • @minisnee
      @minisnee 10 месяцев назад

      @HardboiledBread honestly the build up to all bossfights was pretty interesting, i really liked it till the end. But i understand that people may not like it sinse its not the kind of final fantasy game people wanted as in that its more a action adventure game.
      Still really loved the art style and hoe everything looked personally

    • @paledrake
      @paledrake 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@minisnee It has a lot of filler padding, the characters are almost all weakly written except for like Clive and Dion. Jill and Joshua feels like accessories to Clive rather than their own characters. The game has barely any RPG elements, yet it's advertised like an RPG and even was labeled one during the game awards. The last 3rd of the game with Ash as incredibly rushed and the final dungeon was just a cutscene with quick-time events and a boss fight. Even the ending wasn't finished, instead being super open-ended which was incredibly dissatisfying.
      The best parts of the game was the graphics, voice acting and gameplay, but even the gameplay suffers as late-game it just devolves to gigaflare, judgement bolt and Odin ability spam.

    • @KayJ2012
      @KayJ2012 10 месяцев назад +4

      For me it just doesn't feel like a final fantasy game. The heart of these games has always been "my friends are my power" so I don't understand why they completely gutted the party system. They feel like accessories rather than a part of the game and you only get Jill and Torgal for like 80% of it. I kept waiting for the story to evolve and the characters to charm me. It just never happened

  • @vagrantender
    @vagrantender 9 месяцев назад

    We dont need turn based Final Fantasy games anymore. Im sorry but turn based is the past. If anything id settle for something more like Baldurs Gate 3's combat systems

  • @seazkol6152
    @seazkol6152 10 месяцев назад +2

    Holy shit, the amount of FF boomers is unreal here 🗿

  • @wood1066
    @wood1066 10 месяцев назад +16

    FF "fans" still whining I see.

    • @ram5683
      @ram5683 10 месяцев назад +1

      Everyone knows that a true “fan” will eat any shit if “Final Fantasy” is written on it.

    • @paledrake
      @paledrake 10 месяцев назад +1

      No, just ff shills still complaining that others don't like certain games.

    • @wood1066
      @wood1066 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@paledrake I have to wonder why someone would be watching a video about DLC to a 6 months old game they don't even like.

    • @paledrake
      @paledrake 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@wood1066 Because Noisy Pixel and because I still own the game. Maybe they'd adress the things I didn't like.

    • @AronKjösnes
      @AronKjösnes 10 месяцев назад

      @@wood1066 because we still care about Final Fantasy as a franchise, and want to see it rise above its current state and succeed. We're still holding out hope that SE learn and improve.

  • @jinchuriki7022
    @jinchuriki7022 10 месяцев назад

    Ff16 may not have a good story but neither did Origins and it was still fun

  • @tiagocosmos
    @tiagocosmos 10 месяцев назад +9

    Conceptually i like the story somewhat but i abhor this direction for the series. This is barely an rpg.

    • @Bowblaxian_Tricknology
      @Bowblaxian_Tricknology 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yours is a very embarassing take

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. 10 месяцев назад

      Define rpg.

    • @sacb0y
      @sacb0y 10 месяцев назад

      someone described it as more MMO with more a focus on rotations and abilities. And I'm inclined to agree.

    • @trainradioable
      @trainradioable 10 месяцев назад +3

      It's an action game/movie with rpg elements tacked on.

    • @paledrake
      @paledrake 10 месяцев назад

      @@sacb0y It's more like DMC with the FF14 ability rotation philosophy, one that I very much dislike because of it's staleness and repetitiveness.

  • @Wesgarbarwil1420
    @Wesgarbarwil1420 10 месяцев назад

    I'd consider it for free. I got the platinum trophy in around 65 hours and that was a slog. To be honest I was kinda glad it was over. It's probably in my bottom 3 final fantasy games.

    • @PeEzequiel
      @PeEzequiel 10 месяцев назад

      65 hours platinum trophy?, bro you are too fast

    • @Wesgarbarwil1420
      @Wesgarbarwil1420 10 месяцев назад

      @@PeEzequiel my Final Fantasy mode playthrough was basically a speed run. I skipped every cinematic and didn't do any side quests. Everything was too repetitive to do again. 65 hours felt like a lifetime!!

  • @JeanMoulitte
    @JeanMoulitte 10 месяцев назад +3

    This DLC is a scam, 10$ for 2 Hours, don't buy it.

  • @chaikagaz
    @chaikagaz 10 месяцев назад

    In my experience this ff was shit right next to strangers of paradise. Im waiting for ff7 rebirth which will be the next best installment next to ff7 remake.

  • @83DragonWolf
    @83DragonWolf 10 месяцев назад +38

    It’s not an rpg. Action/adventure yes.

    • @DuskWolf99
      @DuskWolf99 10 месяцев назад +45

      It’s an action rpg. The rpg elements aren’t as lofty as we’d all like, but it still involves skill points, leveling, gear, equipment, etc.

    • @83DragonWolf
      @83DragonWolf 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@DuskWolf99 your right. The rpg elements are minimal at best!

    • @solutionxero
      @solutionxero 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@DuskWolf99it's a 1 out of 100 on an rpg scale. fuck this game

    • @Mintcar923
      @Mintcar923 10 месяцев назад +5

      ⁠Nowadays soo many games have rpg elements with so many styles people seem to look for ways to exclude them from the family

    • @joewhan11
      @joewhan11 10 месяцев назад +6

      Ff16 just felt off to me... I didn't even finish it

  • @knappp
    @knappp 10 месяцев назад +15

    I didn’t like FFXVI so I will skip all DLCs, as they look as boring as the main game. However, my question is why is this game so dark? You can barely see anything. I understand they want to be “dark and mature” but I do not think that mature means you need to play in complete darkness to see anything or adjust brightness of your screen to max 🤷🏻

    • @kirillphomichov6101
      @kirillphomichov6101 10 месяцев назад +1

      Totally this. I was thinking the same when I was playing base game.

    • @Profounduser
      @Profounduser 10 месяцев назад

      Really? I thought ffxv was super dark

    • @paledrake
      @paledrake 10 месяцев назад

      Idk, but what I've noticed is that FF16 has a lot of the same problems as FF14. A lot of filler padding, empty open world and very linear corridor dungeons. All these are problems in FF14 too.

    • @milagroman75
      @milagroman75 10 месяцев назад +1

      Adjust your black levels on your TVs HDR and you can fix it to your liking. Looks a little washed out with default settings. Doesn't fix some of the naturally grey and dark areas of the game, but they don't feel as stale

    • @TheLoneGamr
      @TheLoneGamr 10 месяцев назад

      You have terrible taste is games.

  • @michailp3021
    @michailp3021 10 месяцев назад +2

    Open world Devil May Cry

    • @Andreauni10
      @Andreauni10 10 месяцев назад +1

      It isn't open world and it isn't devil may cry😂😂😂

    • @JP-Sphere
      @JP-Sphere 10 месяцев назад

      Why are u saying that like it wouldn't be awesome😂

  • @francistein8409
    @francistein8409 10 месяцев назад +5

    What made the game suck imo is the lack of RPG elements like the previous final fantasy had.

    • @Bowblaxian_Tricknology
      @Bowblaxian_Tricknology 10 месяцев назад +4

      Oh so you didn't play it

    • @Riku2005
      @Riku2005 10 месяцев назад +1

      who cares

    • @francistein8409
      @francistein8409 10 месяцев назад

      @@Bowblaxian_Tricknology thats a dumb argument. Thats the same as "play 100+ hrs of atarfield because thats where the fun start"

    • @francistein8409
      @francistein8409 10 месяцев назад

      @@Riku2005 fans of final fantasy. thats why the game sucked and it didnt sold well

    • @paledrake
      @paledrake 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Bowblaxian_Tricknology They did, you didn't apparently. It allows you to equip three accessories with mostly weak effects. That's it. The weapon/armor are just stat-sticks where every new piece is a plain stat upgrade. The game is more an action game than a RPG.
      Personally my issues with the game lies with it's story, pacing and exploration rather than the lack of RPG elements. It's still a 7/10 for me though because gameplay, VA and music carried the game hard.

  • @Honkdonk
    @Honkdonk 10 месяцев назад +3

    Wouldn’t call this game an rpg. And as a game it’s bland. The story is good, but the side quests and the beat to beat moments are so boring. It feels like an mmo padding quests. The world even though beautiful, its lifeless. Where is my party ?? To me our companions were one of the best things about ff. now that’s gone. It’s sad.

    • @Bowblaxian_Tricknology
      @Bowblaxian_Tricknology 10 месяцев назад

      No

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. 10 месяцев назад +1

      It is an action rpg period.

    • @nathanthompson742
      @nathanthompson742 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah the party system was a huge detractor for me the longer I played it. Its so dull, and your party members outside story beats follow you around like lifeless husks. The game did for sure have some cool moments and I can see how some people would like it. Just wasn't what I was looking for in a Final Fantasy.

    • @Honkdonk
      @Honkdonk 10 месяцев назад +1

      And also it had the makings of a great ff title. Bringing back nobuo uematsu back as the music composer and have a solid team who built ff14 developing it, I thought it would be amazing. But I was really disappointed.

    • @KayJ2012
      @KayJ2012 10 месяцев назад

      THIS. For me final fantasy is all about the ensemble of characters that really highlight the story. How did they not realize this. By gutting the party system they essentially removed the heart of this franchise and still tried to pass it off as a final fantasy game. NO. I may be willing to give things a try because I'm a supporter, but I will not be willingly ignorant and ignore the fact that I don't like this game and the decisions they made with the RPG system.

  • @solutionxero
    @solutionxero 10 месяцев назад +12

    worst numbered final fantasy game ever. how tf is this an FF game!?

    • @sonnyson01
      @sonnyson01 10 месяцев назад

      Cry harder

    • @Bowblaxian_Tricknology
      @Bowblaxian_Tricknology 10 месяцев назад +8

      You played the other FF games as a child. Of course they felt more fun and intriguing back then. But they aren't. This is the right direction for the series

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. 10 месяцев назад +4

      One of the best. Final onewaystreet X is the worst.

    • @Riku2005
      @Riku2005 10 месяцев назад

      trash take from shit player as per usual.

    • @KayJ2012
      @KayJ2012 10 месяцев назад

      It's not a final fantasy game, they just slapped on the title so it would sell. It's way too big of a deterrent from the rest of the franchise to even consider this a ff game. It's unfortunate but ff has fallen into the corporations hands and we've seen time and time again how that plays out for these video games developers. Larian studios is the last hope in a sea of sell outs.

  • @yatorenegade9524
    @yatorenegade9524 10 месяцев назад +7

    What a trash game.

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. 10 месяцев назад +6

      Ok weeb.

  • @pemuda7075
    @pemuda7075 10 месяцев назад

    Oh my god. damage counter? Disgusting

    • @Riku2005
      @Riku2005 10 месяцев назад

      dumbass take

  • @ACEOFTHEBLITZ
    @ACEOFTHEBLITZ 10 месяцев назад +7

    Looks like this should've been free lol square & ff are dead. Lost their magic. If you've played one, You've played them all at this point.

    • @solutionxero
      @solutionxero 10 месяцев назад +2

      the series is dead but you're completely wrong. theyre all different, noob

  • @luklopskywalk
    @luklopskywalk 10 месяцев назад +3

    HORRIBLE RIP OFF.

  • @KILLACRISIS215
    @KILLACRISIS215 10 месяцев назад +2

    One of the best games .

  • @Bowblaxian_Tricknology
    @Bowblaxian_Tricknology 10 месяцев назад +16

    The people complaining that FFXVI is unique from the series are easily confused and lack self awareness on a critical level.

    • @ram5683
      @ram5683 10 месяцев назад +1

      People who, instead of game, start discussing other people are forever stuck in puberty.

    • @paledrake
      @paledrake 10 месяцев назад +5

      People have different tastes? You don't say. I'd say that people who can't accept that others have different values and opinions lack scope and are blinded easily.

  • @KILLACRISIS215
    @KILLACRISIS215 10 месяцев назад +1

    This game is🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥