@@LicoriceLain PC has it's own issues, nevermind how people suck up to company's like Nvidia that sell them way overprice gpu's you have the whole "PC master race" toxic mess. Sony and Nintendo and hell to some extent xbox isn't going anywhere, so nobody "needs" to go to pc...that being said console+pc has always been my go to setup.
No as a fanboy you do not sit day in and day out praise and praise of your platform is doing bad you complain to the leaders yousay we want qhat they have .
The last time I heard "case by case basis" is when Sega dropped out of hardware and said "we will put our games on other consoles by a case by case basis." Sonic goes to Gamecube, Panzer Dragoon Orta goes to Xbox and Virtua Fighter goes to Playstation. We have come full circle....
“Hold the line” Bro I ain’t sign up for no army. I’m not soldiering for no corporation. You ask me to spend money and invest in your ecosystem then show me something worth doing that with. And if I don’t find it appealing then peace out. I’m not sticking around to help out these 3 trillion dollar corporations.
The fact King took his glasses of and appealed to Spencer directly, shows he is just as worried and Lord Addict is right. As for supporting Hellblade, I heard what King said and tend to agree with him about supporting Hellblade; but it got to be a proper game. One of my biggest frustrations of the industry is that suits say a sequel under performed, but skip over the fact that they themselves sabotaged the game by making changes or taking the sequel into a direction (identity politics) the fanbase didnt wanted it to go. I want to support Hellblade, but it got to be a proper Hellblade.
@@fkaiba94 lol but seriously though where are they? They didn’t even tweet anything on twitter of how are they doing etc. it’s like they knew something bad is going to happen on xbox
I think painting people as upset because "they want to score points" is not a fair depiction of what is happening with many of us. Many of us are not like game reviewers who have all 3 consoles who this doesn't really matter to, or angry nerds on twitter still talking about "console wars." Many of us live on tight budgets and have to make good consumer choices. Choosing the console whose unique offerings are soon going to be a subset of the other console's is a bad consumer choice and affects us negatively. It is a bad use of $500. I'm not married to giant corporations like Microsoft or Sony. I want to feel that I have gotten a good product.
But nothing changes for you... literally nothing. You still get all your games on your box. If you bought an Xbox for exclusives that's kind of on you anyway. Gamepass is available elsewhere and you get the same games right? I'm trying to understand why anyone would truly be upset about this, because nothing changes for you. You still get all your games you would have, and now the publisher of said games can possibly earn more money to support said games and make more...this is a win win for you every way I look at it
so much truth to this, Nintendo consoles can run on hardware 2-gens out of date compared to Sony & Microsoft because their exclusives don't require the latest tech to run, and the masses still flock to them beause the quality is there (most of the time).
Yes, yes they do. Xbox would have done the same if they didn't tell everyone for years that they don't need the box, they need the sub and they get everything they want
Gamepass dont mean nothing to core gamers. Yeah, it's a good deal. Truth is building digital library, game completions on said account means more. When there is a platform that has every game. Why not make an account and bulid it where every game is available to play.
Shocking. It's clear they have given up on the Xbox brand and only care about Game pass. Although it makes sense business wise, it does feel like they are turning their back in the Xbox community. There will never be another Xbox console. It's... Sad. I'm glad I no longer have any horse in this race.
Until Gamepass gets on Playstation and Nintendo Consoles, it's only going to decrease in subscribers as the Xbox console bleeds users. Either Xbox needs exclusive content or Gamepass needs exclusive content. If the content flows natively onto Playstation, Sony has no incentive to put Gamepass on its console. Microsoft has no clue what it's doing.
@@Cakebattered if I was Sony, I wouldnt allow gamepass on my system. Not because of any fanboy nonsense like most of these fools, but because I would get a 30% cut of every game sold and I don't have to spend a dime developing or marketing the games. Gamepass on my console won't net me anywhere close to what I would get with the games. Microsoft would have to spend 100s of millions developing the game for multiple platforms, all the marketing, and I don't spend anything while getting almost a 1/3 of the profit from it...this is a no brainer
Microsoft should Hire King as their new spokesperson since Major Nelson. What if Xbox drops only live service games on Playstation, to compete with Sony's upcoming live service.
They aren't releasing the games on competitors consoles to compete. They need to make more money. They are releasing everything possible I guarantee it
They did really sit there and hear King say that blatant lie about Sonys first party? What game not named GTA, COD, Red dead and some sports games outsell Sonys games 3-1? When spider man 2018, god of war 2018 selling 18M on the PS4 alone! Smh
I'm a PC guy who discovered you guys through Frit. The only console I've ever had was N64 & gameboy colour when I was a young boy. One thing I want to contribute is that, if Microsoft plans on even more acquisitions, they pretty much HAVE to go 3rd party with what they have now. When they were acquiring ABK, they were dragged through the courts because it was feared they would make everything exclusive and have a monopoly, that's why Phil made it clear from the beginning that COD would NOT go exclusive. If they make another acquisition on that level, they will be dragged through the courts again for the same reason, for which they need a defence.
Looks like my PC switchover was still the best decision, this sucks if these rumors are officially confirmed. Mainly to the console users and those of this podcast, ya'll some cool dudes. Way better than those sony talk podcasts.
@@barcster2003 Thing is when i did switch, it wasn't to "ditch xbox", I just couldn't afford a Series and I got picked for the Street Fighter 6 beta, so I had the beta code to be sent to the PC I already had and fortunately my card was still good enough to play, so i figured just stick with what I already have. I swapped all my Xbox One stuff over to my PC, I still have my Live accounts and everything.
Moving to PC is the right move regardless of which console you enjoy, everythings better on PC from prices to performance, first party games coming out 2-3 times a year at best aren't enough anymore
it feels like his vision and Satya's vision were different for Xbox during the hearings. seems Phil might have been outvoted, or convinced the new way forward is the only way forward. i can see possibility of him retiring or leaving soon as a result. @@LicoriceLain
I think Game Pass day and date games going away wouldn't work. The reason they created Game Pass, as well as the Xbox Play Anywhere initiative was to gain marketshare in the gaming space. That's the main reason gamers went TO Game Pass. You. Just. Can't. Take. That. Back. If Microsoft does that, what's to stop them from raising game prices as well as Game Pass subscription prices?
@@barcster2003 I think they have to. They aren't releasing games on competitors consoles for no reason, they need to start making more money asap. Gamepass subs can't support all of Xboxs og 1st party, Bethesda as a whole and Activision as a whole. They need to do this. They have no choice
Look I love Phil, but he does have a boss too. And if it's Satya telling him to make that decision to bring Starfield, Indiana Jones etc over to PS. Then it's over, he has no choice but to follow through on what he's told to do. If all 1st party games then go over to playstation, the only reason I'll keep my xbox is if gamepass still exists.
I’m just hoping both PlayStation and Nintendo don’t become lazy after this situation of Xbox going third party! I play all games and this is good and bad for the industry
@@NF_Redux that's a pretty big assumption. I expect everyone to bump their prices eventually the jump from 60-70 didn't even cover inflation. This includes Xbox. Don't be shocked when gamepass price goes up
Personally, I don't see the problem. The majority of gamers who have Xbox's and Playstations don't care about exclusives. They buy them for multi-plats and stay because of their ecosystems and digital libraries. Nintendo is the ONLY platform where people buy the consoles and handhelds for the exclusives primarily. I picked up my Xbox 10 months ago, and I hardly own any exclusives, and I don't care. I bought it for game pass, its ecosystem, and backwards compatibility. You also have to remember why this is potentially happening in the first place. It's because Xbox fans have been conditioned not to buy games since game pass was first introduced. These games are not selling on Xbox, and Microsoft needs to make money. Especially now when making AAA games costs more than ever. If you bought the Xbox primarily for its exclusives, then you've should've jumped ship years ago tbh. Microsoft isn't playing by the old rules anymore and hasn't been for years now. If the exclusives go away, then literally nothing changes for most people. Nobody who's been on Xbox since at least the Xbox One is going to jump ship and leave behind the ecosystem and their digital library that they've been building for at least 10 years.
Haha yaaaah that would really set these fanboys off wouldn't it? It wouldn't shock me, I mean there's plenty of games that seem to run better on PS than my series x.
@@T_M_E_8no official word it just the rumors and everybody losing there shit over it . We gotta wait til that Sarah Bond broad come out and speak on it they said spring so next month I’m guessing
That was an interesting breaking news in the middle of that. I'm curious to see how long it takes anyone from Xbox to respond to this, if anyone bothers.
Its not that hard to understand why they are taking this route. You dont buy two major third party publishers and limit your sales to PC and make it exclusive to the console with the least market share and expect to maintain the same revenue they used to make before the acquisition. MS need to keep thier 100 billion dollar purchase profitable.
Funny how things work out eh? I'd be furious if I was invested in XBOX hardware. I still play my 360 so its just weird to see a compnay fall off this bad when it did not have to be like this.
Bye Xbox, no need to buy your console when you will kill my digital library and put your game son steam the same day and PS5 a few months to a year later
The viewer to subcriber ratio is crazy on this channel. You almost have 1to1 im surprised you dont have more subs tbh. This show is a gem.. Hopefully 2024 is the year you blow the doors off youtube.
Well....why owned an xbox??? Now ...is blade an Xbox exclusive???? Is elder scrolls 6 an Xbox exclusive??? Most like not if Xbox goes that route they don't even need to think about making a next generation Xbox...
There are no games exclusive to Xbox, because gamepass isn't exclusive to Xbox. And your Xbox will still play all those games you want to play and expected to play in the future. Nothing changed or will change in that front
Was there ever a good reason to why xbox exclusive games just stopped dead after 360? Truly what has xbox even done the last two generations I'm so confused what this community has to huddle around for podcasts and discords, I had a 360 and spent my teens playing gears/halo/cod like everyone else But literally at the end of PS3/360 era, the last of us took me and my friends over to ps3 to play that and a handful of $5 ps3 exclusives and we haven't looked back once (even though we play on PC) Playstation has bangers every few years and literally in 2 generations I can't think of 5 xbox exclusives, especially now that theyre on PC as well
the Xbone was a massive failure, so they pivoted to having Xbox exclusives on PC as well, but only some of them if i recall, and not via Steam. they had exclusives that were only timed like PUBG & Tomb Raider last gen, but outcry ensued from Sony gamers on social media about Tomb Raider, while Sony moneyhatted a bunch of exclusives away from Xbox, and Microsoft has done the same with some game pass titles, too, while also saying Xbox is no longer into keeping games away from others, more PR talk than anything, but i digress... they then pivoted to game pass, and then announced day and date first-parties on game pass, and backed themselves into a corner. now here we are, and things seem only marginally better, and if these leaks hold truth, things may be somewhat worse behind the scenes, given the events of the last few weeks. interesting times, will be curious to see how it all unfolds...
@@NF_Redux The pivot to game pass and day and date game pass sounded really good but the first party games never came, I imagine they would be in a way better situation now if a new halo/gears/fable/geo wars/viva pinata/dead rising/perfect dark/banjo kazooee, hell wasn't Alan Wake an xbox exclusive? I remember my friends couldnt play it at the time. Do you remember what the promise was AFTER xbox one? like have xbox had some big e3 lineup of 5-10 big first party games for the newer xboxes since launch? The only xbox first party stuff I can think of from a pc perspective is like, halo infinite, sea of thieves, pentiment annndddd the racing game? I guess starfield but idk bethesda stuff doesn't feel exclusive yet, more like a timed exclusive, instead of $130 on steam I played it for 2 weeks on game pass for $1
@@ChichiNakayou're not wrong. Most of the things that were promised either released in really bad states, and or been delayed or haven't released at all yet. It hasn't been great
I think people are using a weird way to defend the Suicide Squad game. Sov talking about judging the game on its own merits and that the characters "move well." I think people absolutely have a right to have an expectation from (A) a studio that already showed us what a 10/10 is and (B) is using a pre-established IP. If you can't give me a good DC game, don't make a DC game. It can't just be a decent game that has a DC skin. You gotta earn that IP, you can't just ride its coattails to success. Xbox should watch closely. It's not enough to have the name of a big IP, you have to prove you can do right by that IP and elevate it or AT LEAST match it.
1:41:14 The grandpa of Xbox said “gamers NEVER know what they want” THIS MF DON’T EVEN PLAY GAMES !! I would say stop letting these Talking Heads speak for y’all but it’s already over for Xbox 🤷🏾♂️ Y’all had a good run 😂 kinda R.I.P. Xbox 2001 - 2024
Standard business practice... They've all recently received promotions and make more money than they've ever made. Leadership says "they'll fall in line." These are rumors so I'll just watch.
Xbox users are more than likely still going to get the exact same services and games that they expected when they bought their Xbox. It's insane,...INSANE....that because you may have made a different console buying choice today than you did when you bought your Xbox, that you were somehow screwed. You're only screwed when the services and games you thought you would have access to change. Everything changes. Nothing stays the same. Games being on other platforms can change your future decisions but it doesn't invalidate your past ones. Your Xbox still does the exact same stuff you bought it for. Until there is news that your Xbox no longer does what you bought it for, every just needs to chill.
Thank you! This changes nothing for me or any other Xbox owners. I will still be able to play all the games I expected to play, and expect to play in the future. Now the publisher of these games have the opportunity to make more money and support the games I'm playing and even make more of them. Fanboys are upset about this, not normal rational human beings
@d8l835 I suspect the announcement will be Xbox Studios games are exclusive(except maybe online GAAS). Bethesda and ABK release cross platform but games from all 3 publishers are in Game Pass day 1. Which means that there will still be exclusives on Xbox, ABK and Bethesda games will still be cheaper to access on PlayStation and PlayStation 1st party remains the primary reason to buy a PlayStation. I still suspect all MS moves are all about Game Pass. Looking at the ABK deal and all the regulatory stuff, large swaths of the anti purchase claims would be gone. So MS can go out and buy more companies and they'll just say, games will relase on 3rd party platforms like ABK and Bethesda games and we'll sell 10 years of the cloud gaming rights to a 3rd party but those purchases also bolster Game Pass. So even though everything is on PlayStation, it's gonna cost vastly more to play on PlayStation. Even if I'm wrong and they announce Game Pass will end and we're not going to be another console, if you have your Xbox, you have a way to play your Xbox library. If someone is super desperate to keep all their games with gold and old purchases, they'll just have to go and get enough hard drives to store them on. It's not an ideal solution but it's a solution. I can understand people being upset at that point but the outrage is dumb. Surprise!! Xbox doesn't love you, you're just a consumer. If you think I should've bought PlayStation, then maybe swap to PlayStation. Vote with your wallet and play what you wanna play, don't hold loyalty to a company. That's 🤪 crazy
King my Mans.. King David acting like a REAL GROWN MAN.. why are all these grown men on Twitter crying over rumors and possibilities? I can’t understand it.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. I think some gamers are worshiping a false God.
Phil literally disproved this third party a month ago and people ain’t listen, they told people starfield was exclusive for two years and people and listen, the media finally had to admit PlayStation has no games and now they’re pushing hard on this narrative to get Xbox games on PlayStation cuz PlayStation don’t have they own games. The zenimax employee thing was proven fake and so was the Hifi rush t shirt logo as trolling. Within the past year Xbox has started to back off on some of the people in the media. To kings point will they put some games on PlayStation to save them and also to make future acquisitions easier? Perhaps but it ain’t gonna be halo so stop, and PlayStation would still have to give Xbox something in return. I also heard that Xbox consoles have sold worse then the Xbox one then the financial reports came out saying Xbox hardware is up, again 🤔. If sales is the reason, PlayStation gamers don’t even buy Sonys own first party games Sony said this numerous times themselves both in public and in leaks, what makes you or even Microsoft themselves think PlayStation gamers will buy Xbox games? Not to mention most of those games probably can’t even run on the PlayStation
I will still buy an XBOX if these rumours are true. I only play on consoles and I prefer their controller and its where my friends/achievements are. Unless XBOX are putting game pass on PS5 then I will still save a fortune and get them day one. Just have to wait and see what happens. To echo what some panel members said - why spend all that time and money building XBOX into a viable competitor to playstation just to quit when they are about to crush them.
Game Pass is stepping up and stepping out. being tied to one box isn't enough. She's for the streets! Microsoft have been looking at every which way to recoup money with strategy changes, layoffs, wanting to double the cost of subs a while ago, sabotaging the rewards program, barely any marketing outside US, having near-zero retail presence in stores here in Australia & other countries where they were everywhere in the OG-360 era, etc., while Playstation & Nintendo still have a massive presence over here. seems they're looking to go the same route Sega did after the Dreamcast, or make everything Xbox revolve around Game Pass. we joke about no PS6, but we could be seeing no next Xbox even sooner, that "Adorably All-Digital" cylinder might be the last. time will tell...
Tim dog overreacting so hard to this news smh. Bro fully on the verge of tears on the pod & made a 7 hour twitter space. RiskIt on twitter also same energy too. Online bubble with the hardcore is just embarrassing
When Sarah said “advance the line” this isn’t what I thought she meant
Lol
Did she really say that?
Holding the line, while getting shot in back by the commanders.
Order 66
😂 damn . That funny hope it's not Tru
If one thing is true, time and time again. It's that the share holders always win
Knew this a while ago stewart said it at the wells Fargo investment thing.
The old adage...."This is business, nothing personal." rings loudly. This is why you don't fanboy a corporation
corpos are not our friend. they're only loyal to the CEO & the shareholders.
This is why you become a PC gamer and face the reality this was always going to be the way things would go.
@@LicoriceLain PC has it's own issues, nevermind how people suck up to company's like Nvidia that sell them way overprice gpu's you have the whole "PC master race" toxic mess. Sony and Nintendo and hell to some extent xbox isn't going anywhere, so nobody "needs" to go to pc...that being said console+pc has always been my go to setup.
No as a fanboy you do not sit day in and day out praise and praise of your platform is doing bad you complain to the leaders yousay we want qhat they have .
Take away day in date for one year that will make a massive difference If you do 6 months the gamers will still choose to wait.
starts at 16:09
Xbox 3rd party talk starts at 1:21:40
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You’re the mvp
Man that line crumbled so fast I’ve never seen men just throw down their weapons and walk away from the battlefield like this before
The last time I heard "case by case basis" is when Sega dropped out of hardware and said "we will put our games on other consoles by a case by case basis." Sonic goes to Gamecube, Panzer Dragoon Orta goes to Xbox and Virtua Fighter goes to Playstation. We have come full circle....
“Hold the line”
Bro I ain’t sign up for no army. I’m not soldiering for no corporation. You ask me to spend money and invest in your ecosystem then show me something worth doing that with. And if I don’t find it appealing then peace out. I’m not sticking around to help out these 3 trillion dollar corporations.
The fact King took his glasses of and appealed to Spencer directly, shows he is just as worried and Lord Addict is right. As for supporting Hellblade, I heard what King said and tend to agree with him about supporting Hellblade; but it got to be a proper game. One of my biggest frustrations of the industry is that suits say a sequel under performed, but skip over the fact that they themselves sabotaged the game by making changes or taking the sequel into a direction (identity politics) the fanbase didnt wanted it to go. I want to support Hellblade, but it got to be a proper Hellblade.
What is a proper Hellblade?
I never seen timdog like this. His the xbox hardcore fans since the xbox OG era. 😢 we lose our friend. His been loyal to xbox for so long.....
Welp. That's what happens if you fan boy
I never seen dealergaming, zalker and xbott448 streaming anymore. I wonder what happened
@@josephsaga lol. Leave em alone man, you know that depression......
@@fkaiba94 lol but seriously though where are they? They didn’t even tweet anything on twitter of how are they doing etc. it’s like they knew something bad is going to happen on xbox
@@josephsaga dang. Idk. I don't really pay attention to these dudes
I think painting people as upset because "they want to score points" is not a fair depiction of what is happening with many of us. Many of us are not like game reviewers who have all 3 consoles who this doesn't really matter to, or angry nerds on twitter still talking about "console wars." Many of us live on tight budgets and have to make good consumer choices. Choosing the console whose unique offerings are soon going to be a subset of the other console's is a bad consumer choice and affects us negatively. It is a bad use of $500. I'm not married to giant corporations like Microsoft or Sony. I want to feel that I have gotten a good product.
This is the point almost no brings up.
But nothing changes for you... literally nothing. You still get all your games on your box. If you bought an Xbox for exclusives that's kind of on you anyway. Gamepass is available elsewhere and you get the same games right?
I'm trying to understand why anyone would truly be upset about this, because nothing changes for you. You still get all your games you would have, and now the publisher of said games can possibly earn more money to support said games and make more...this is a win win for you every way I look at it
The animations need to go. I'm trying to hear COGs point and every ten seconds a stupid boom sound is happening.
Lol 😆 🤣 😂 😹
animations are the best part but sure they can lower the volume for them
Good point king a lotta laughin goin on too man its tough to hear you boys 😮💨😮💨 @xboxfrontline
"exculsives dont sell consoles"
>switch enters the chat
uh ok
so much truth to this, Nintendo consoles can run on hardware 2-gens out of date compared to Sony & Microsoft because their exclusives don't require the latest tech to run, and the masses still flock to them beause the quality is there (most of the time).
Yes, yes they do. Xbox would have done the same if they didn't tell everyone for years that they don't need the box, they need the sub and they get everything they want
That hold the line shit is done, keep your eyes on David moving them goal posts talking about recoup
😂😂😂😂😂
@@xboxfrontline you won’t be laughing when your boy Greenberg gets the boot and Phil is giving his walking papers. 🤕
@@MN-sb4prYou sound lonely and in need of friends. 🥴🤡
@@ShadyDBZ4 I’m good bro my personal life is not going third party like your console of choice 🥳
@@MN-sb4pr Huh? You okay over there?
If Xbox goes full 3rd party then the Series X will be my last Xbox console
Xbox done sony won stupid xclown🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Xclowns lost 🤣🤣🤣 suck it
I think everyone will leave if it’s full third party, especially if gamepass is on other platforms in its full capacity.
@@T_M_E_8 Fact it would be no point of owning a Xbox if they go full 3rd party
Gamepass dont mean nothing to core gamers. Yeah, it's a good deal. Truth is building digital library, game completions on said account means more. When there is a platform that has every game. Why not make an account and bulid it where every game is available to play.
Xbox is for the streets.
You might be right
Phil Spencer taking the biggest L right now
Nah bruh, itz the eggsbots who defend xbox takin the biggest L.
What L is he taking?
He just got a promotion and raise... I doubt it.
I doubt Phil agreed to this but they clearly lost & upper management won
Shocking. It's clear they have given up on the Xbox brand and only care about Game pass. Although it makes sense business wise, it does feel like they are turning their back in the Xbox community. There will never be another Xbox console. It's... Sad. I'm glad I no longer have any horse in this race.
Until Gamepass gets on Playstation and Nintendo Consoles, it's only going to decrease in subscribers as the Xbox console bleeds users. Either Xbox needs exclusive content or Gamepass needs exclusive content. If the content flows natively onto Playstation, Sony has no incentive to put Gamepass on its console. Microsoft has no clue what it's doing.
@@Cakebattered if I was Sony, I wouldnt allow gamepass on my system. Not because of any fanboy nonsense like most of these fools, but because I would get a 30% cut of every game sold and I don't have to spend a dime developing or marketing the games. Gamepass on my console won't net me anywhere close to what I would get with the games. Microsoft would have to spend 100s of millions developing the game for multiple platforms, all the marketing, and I don't spend anything while getting almost a 1/3 of the profit from it...this is a no brainer
Microsoft should Hire King as their new spokesperson since Major Nelson. What if Xbox drops only live service games on Playstation, to compete with Sony's upcoming live service.
They aren't releasing the games on competitors consoles to compete. They need to make more money. They are releasing everything possible I guarantee it
They did really sit there and hear King say that blatant lie about Sonys first party? What game not named GTA, COD, Red dead and some sports games outsell Sonys games 3-1? When spider man 2018, god of war 2018 selling 18M on the PS4 alone! Smh
Glasses Off King 🤯 We getting serious 💯 King right 97% of the time!
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@@xboxfrontline I side with KING 💯
I'm a PC guy who discovered you guys through Frit. The only console I've ever had was N64 & gameboy colour when I was a young boy. One thing I want to contribute is that, if Microsoft plans on even more acquisitions, they pretty much HAVE to go 3rd party with what they have now. When they were acquiring ABK, they were dragged through the courts because it was feared they would make everything exclusive and have a monopoly, that's why Phil made it clear from the beginning that COD would NOT go exclusive.
If they make another acquisition on that level, they will be dragged through the courts again for the same reason, for which they need a defence.
Looks like my PC switchover was still the best decision, this sucks if these rumors are officially confirmed. Mainly to the console users and those of this podcast, ya'll some cool dudes. Way better than those sony talk podcasts.
Microsoft rewards people who ditch Xbox. I figured this out a while ago.
@@barcster2003 Thing is when i did switch, it wasn't to "ditch xbox", I just couldn't afford a Series and I got picked for the Street Fighter 6 beta, so I had the beta code to be sent to the PC I already had and fortunately my card was still good enough to play, so i figured just stick with what I already have. I swapped all my Xbox One stuff over to my PC, I still have my Live accounts and everything.
@@Swaggernaut_X PS5, PC switch master race.... no waiting and no port begging ever.
@@martyden9006 No, I don't like or have any interest in a PS5. I think Sony fell off after PS3 imo.
Moving to PC is the right move regardless of which console you enjoy, everythings better on PC from prices to performance, first party games coming out 2-3 times a year at best aren't enough anymore
Xbox taking another L
Slo Mo is a great addition to the team. Does he have his own gaming podcast?
yes. DPS Podcast! ruclips.net/p/PLpl94H6Esfj5T6hxmkVzcht7ckti4QEo1
Damn king said there would be no PS6 just to find out its more likely they're wont be a next gen xbox lol
These dudes that acted everything was okay, ars the reason why Xbox will eventually go away. Thank you lord king.
These dudes are delusional if they really think Xbox can just kill off PlayStation. Not when ps consistently makes higher quality games .
Y'all thought you were holding the line but it was actually the bag lol!
King about to be heartbroken real bad, I can't see him like that!
Making a woman of color the head of Xbox and then killing the brand is the most big tech decision ever.
oldest trick in the book. Phil takes the glory, Sarah takes the heat.
She dont even know😭
It is def sus. But remember they also just gave Phil a promotion right before making a decision that will likely make him retire early.
it feels like his vision and Satya's vision were different for Xbox during the hearings. seems Phil might have been outvoted, or convinced the new way forward is the only way forward. i can see possibility of him retiring or leaving soon as a result. @@LicoriceLain
@@NF_ReduxSatya honestly has just been looking a reason to kill the console business. Has been from the start.
I think Game Pass day and date games going away wouldn't work. The reason they created Game Pass, as well as the Xbox Play Anywhere initiative was to gain marketshare in the gaming space. That's the main reason gamers went TO Game Pass. You. Just. Can't. Take. That. Back. If Microsoft does that, what's to stop them from raising game prices as well as Game Pass subscription prices?
They are going to raise gamepass prices as well.
@@barcster2003 I think they have to. They aren't releasing games on competitors consoles for no reason, they need to start making more money asap. Gamepass subs can't support all of Xboxs og 1st party, Bethesda as a whole and Activision as a whole. They need to do this. They have no choice
well...hopefully King has good knees cuzz he's bout to have to bend them again....
Look I love Phil, but he does have a boss too. And if it's Satya telling him to make that decision to bring Starfield, Indiana Jones etc over to PS. Then it's over, he has no choice but to follow through on what he's told to do. If all 1st party games then go over to playstation, the only reason I'll keep my xbox is if gamepass still exists.
Xbox played us all lol if this is true, im out of the brand.
The Cope from king is next level 😂
I’m just hoping both PlayStation and Nintendo don’t become lazy after this situation of Xbox going third party! I play all games and this is good and bad for the industry
Nintendo hasn’t cared what the competition was doing since 2006
the only real change will be Sony charging even more money for everything with no competition to keep prices reasonable.
@@NF_Redux that's a pretty big assumption. I expect everyone to bump their prices eventually the jump from 60-70 didn't even cover inflation. This includes Xbox. Don't be shocked when gamepass price goes up
Personally, I don't see the problem. The majority of gamers who have Xbox's and Playstations don't care about exclusives. They buy them for multi-plats and stay because of their ecosystems and digital libraries. Nintendo is the ONLY platform where people buy the consoles and handhelds for the exclusives primarily.
I picked up my Xbox 10 months ago, and I hardly own any exclusives, and I don't care. I bought it for game pass, its ecosystem, and backwards compatibility.
You also have to remember why this is potentially happening in the first place. It's because Xbox fans have been conditioned not to buy games since game pass was first introduced. These games are not selling on Xbox, and Microsoft needs to make money. Especially now when making AAA games costs more than ever.
If you bought the Xbox primarily for its exclusives, then you've should've jumped ship years ago tbh. Microsoft isn't playing by the old rules anymore and hasn't been for years now. If the exclusives go away, then literally nothing changes for most people. Nobody who's been on Xbox since at least the Xbox One is going to jump ship and leave behind the ecosystem and their digital library that they've been building for at least 10 years.
Great looking Maske King!! But one question. Its not normal for it to be Green I think. Did u have that custom made?
It's made from the guy who makes the masks for the movies
@@xboxfrontline Wow
Thats awsome really. Looks ao good man. Nicly done🎉😄
We have a yellow vein that goes around our hearts¡ our father takes hearts!
Imagine if these Xbox titles run better on PS5 - meltdown
Honestly, I expect it at this point. Xbox either can't or won't have its titles run best on its systems.
Haha yaaaah that would really set these fanboys off wouldn't it? It wouldn't shock me, I mean there's plenty of games that seem to run better on PS than my series x.
So, do we trade in our Xbox now while it has a little bit of value and pick of PS5s? Or do we just wait for the PS5 Pro and take peanuts for our Xbox?
Wait for pspro5 and use your series x as a little coffeetable.
Wait for ps6
Put my shit up today lol what a joke
@@MyAnalyserbruh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Banana in the Tailpipe situation
Honeslty if they allow our complete library to be playable through ps i might as well just use my ps5 as primary console now
Smart. 1 console, access to both Xbox and PS exclusives. Easy decision
It’s going down
Shout outs to my boy Flame! SOTM is huge!!
Shout out Robert Kellett instead sir! I'm nothing without the amazing team at LOGNET ❤
I don’t care about games going to PlayStation. I’m just worried this will be the death knell for the console.
It's going bye bye, from an Xbox fan
It totally is. I think it's over. They'll be releasing a Microsoft Gamepass Stick for TVs.
@@fkaiba94is this just a rumor or did someone from Xbox come out and say they are releasing on PS/Nintendo?
@@T_M_E_8no official word it just the rumors and everybody losing there shit over it . We gotta wait til that Sarah Bond broad come out and speak on it they said spring so next month I’m guessing
@@mikeychainsaw9760 Phil Spencer just came out and said they are going to talk to the community next week, so we will have our answer then
R.I.P XBOX CONSOLE!!! 😫😫😫🤷🏿♂️
That was an interesting breaking news in the middle of that. I'm curious to see how long it takes anyone from Xbox to respond to this, if anyone bothers.
They aren't going to. Their strategy is to become Sega.
Is this podcast going to talk about how Microsoft is the best 3rd party?
Guys stop they're already dead, the comments alone will give them PTSD pleass no mas
Its not that hard to understand why they are taking this route. You dont buy two major third party publishers and limit your sales to PC and make it exclusive to the console with the least market share and expect to maintain the same revenue they used to make before the acquisition. MS need to keep thier 100 billion dollar purchase profitable.
Funny how things work out eh? I'd be furious if I was invested in XBOX hardware. I still play my 360 so its just weird to see a compnay fall off this bad when it did not have to be like this.
HOLD THE LINE!!!!!!!! 😃
Bye Xbox, no need to buy your console when you will kill my digital library and put your game son steam the same day and PS5 a few months to a year later
Time to get a gaming PC 🤷♂️
Man I hope Deli didnt get in too much trouble after he said what he said. Dude went ghost after that went down.
There's principles involved, these rules apply to all, it's never bout the money...
The viewer to subcriber ratio is crazy on this channel. You almost have 1to1 im surprised you dont have more subs tbh. This show is a gem.. Hopefully 2024 is the year you blow the doors off youtube.
I don’t get it either. I think it’s because there’s no other content on the channel besides the live show on Sunday afternoons.
Simple... To many time people just talking over each other its anoying to listen to.
Sony pissin on xbox grave😂 jim ryan won
Well....why owned an xbox??? Now ...is blade an Xbox exclusive???? Is elder scrolls 6 an Xbox exclusive??? Most like not if Xbox goes that route they don't even need to think about making a next generation Xbox...
There are no games exclusive to Xbox, because gamepass isn't exclusive to Xbox. And your Xbox will still play all those games you want to play and expected to play in the future. Nothing changed or will change in that front
PlayStation Frontline starting King David
Was there ever a good reason to why xbox exclusive games just stopped dead after 360?
Truly what has xbox even done the last two generations I'm so confused what this community has to huddle around for podcasts and discords, I had a 360 and spent my teens playing gears/halo/cod like everyone else
But literally at the end of PS3/360 era, the last of us took me and my friends over to ps3 to play that and a handful of $5 ps3 exclusives and we haven't looked back once (even though we play on PC) Playstation has bangers every few years and literally in 2 generations I can't think of 5 xbox exclusives, especially now that theyre on PC as well
the Xbone was a massive failure, so they pivoted to having Xbox exclusives on PC as well, but only some of them if i recall, and not via Steam. they had exclusives that were only timed like PUBG & Tomb Raider last gen, but outcry ensued from Sony gamers on social media about Tomb Raider, while Sony moneyhatted a bunch of exclusives away from Xbox, and Microsoft has done the same with some game pass titles, too, while also saying Xbox is no longer into keeping games away from others, more PR talk than anything, but i digress...
they then pivoted to game pass, and then announced day and date first-parties on game pass, and backed themselves into a corner. now here we are, and things seem only marginally better, and if these leaks hold truth, things may be somewhat worse behind the scenes, given the events of the last few weeks. interesting times, will be curious to see how it all unfolds...
@@NF_Redux The pivot to game pass and day and date game pass sounded really good but the first party games never came, I imagine they would be in a way better situation now if a new halo/gears/fable/geo wars/viva pinata/dead rising/perfect dark/banjo kazooee, hell wasn't Alan Wake an xbox exclusive? I remember my friends couldnt play it at the time.
Do you remember what the promise was AFTER xbox one? like have xbox had some big e3 lineup of 5-10 big first party games for the newer xboxes since launch?
The only xbox first party stuff I can think of from a pc perspective is like, halo infinite, sea of thieves, pentiment annndddd the racing game? I guess starfield but idk bethesda stuff doesn't feel exclusive yet, more like a timed exclusive, instead of $130 on steam I played it for 2 weeks on game pass for $1
@@ChichiNakayou're not wrong. Most of the things that were promised either released in really bad states, and or been delayed or haven't released at all yet. It hasn't been great
I think people are using a weird way to defend the Suicide Squad game. Sov talking about judging the game on its own merits and that the characters "move well." I think people absolutely have a right to have an expectation from (A) a studio that already showed us what a 10/10 is and (B) is using a pre-established IP. If you can't give me a good DC game, don't make a DC game. It can't just be a decent game that has a DC skin. You gotta earn that IP, you can't just ride its coattails to success. Xbox should watch closely. It's not enough to have the name of a big IP, you have to prove you can do right by that IP and elevate it or AT LEAST match it.
I think xbox is buying something.
If they show they are willing to put there games on the competition it may make the perchance easier.
Or they are just trying to appease shareholders who want their money now.
Amazing conversation. King had me dying laughing at the end 😂
Will I be able to play fable on my ps6?
King gonna spin it and say its a dub lmao
Layden would have saved this product Microsoft had the money why wouldn't they just hire him.
Xbox should have had a statement ready.
Where it all began 😂
welcome to the stables!
They didnt spend 10s of billions to put those games on the 3rd most popular platform...PERIOD.
Hold the line!!
Love the work you guys do but damn that intro longer than a Sony game. Lol
1:41:14 The grandpa of Xbox said “gamers NEVER know what they want” THIS MF DON’T EVEN PLAY GAMES !! I would say stop letting these Talking Heads speak for y’all but it’s already over for Xbox 🤷🏾♂️ Y’all had a good run 😂 kinda
R.I.P. Xbox 2001 - 2024
Now, there will be real Ponybots!
Great show Lords
*looks at camera in the eye* Phil stop them 😂
I Care more about the games than a plastic box I can play on I wish every game was playable on all platforms the. You decide what ever you want
You guys relize king david isnt on your side yet?
Xbox better be smart and not lose their customers
lol
King made a very interesting point. Judge the future by who leaves in the immediate.
Standard business practice... They've all recently received promotions and make more money than they've ever made. Leadership says "they'll fall in line."
These are rumors so I'll just watch.
Xbox users are more than likely still going to get the exact same services and games that they expected when they bought their Xbox. It's insane,...INSANE....that because you may have made a different console buying choice today than you did when you bought your Xbox, that you were somehow screwed. You're only screwed when the services and games you thought you would have access to change. Everything changes. Nothing stays the same. Games being on other platforms can change your future decisions but it doesn't invalidate your past ones. Your Xbox still does the exact same stuff you bought it for. Until there is news that your Xbox no longer does what you bought it for, every just needs to chill.
Thank you!
This changes nothing for me or any other Xbox owners. I will still be able to play all the games I expected to play, and expect to play in the future. Now the publisher of these games have the opportunity to make more money and support the games I'm playing and even make more of them.
Fanboys are upset about this, not normal rational human beings
@d8l835 I suspect the announcement will be Xbox Studios games are exclusive(except maybe online GAAS). Bethesda and ABK release cross platform but games from all 3 publishers are in Game Pass day 1. Which means that there will still be exclusives on Xbox, ABK and Bethesda games will still be cheaper to access on PlayStation and PlayStation 1st party remains the primary reason to buy a PlayStation. I still suspect all MS moves are all about Game Pass. Looking at the ABK deal and all the regulatory stuff, large swaths of the anti purchase claims would be gone. So MS can go out and buy more companies and they'll just say, games will relase on 3rd party platforms like ABK and Bethesda games and we'll sell 10 years of the cloud gaming rights to a 3rd party but those purchases also bolster Game Pass. So even though everything is on PlayStation, it's gonna cost vastly more to play on PlayStation. Even if I'm wrong and they announce Game Pass will end and we're not going to be another console, if you have your Xbox, you have a way to play your Xbox library. If someone is super desperate to keep all their games with gold and old purchases, they'll just have to go and get enough hard drives to store them on. It's not an ideal solution but it's a solution. I can understand people being upset at that point but the outrage is dumb. Surprise!! Xbox doesn't love you, you're just a consumer. If you think I should've bought PlayStation, then maybe swap to PlayStation. Vote with your wallet and play what you wanna play, don't hold loyalty to a company. That's 🤪 crazy
King my Mans.. King David acting like a REAL GROWN MAN.. why are all these grown men on Twitter crying over rumors and possibilities? I can’t understand it.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️. I think some gamers are worshiping a false God.
It’s joeover
Yep way to much smoke from reliable people on this.
King was on his Lux 3rd round ish 😂
Audio is low
IM holding the line with you KING
Let's go
Yall bout to be holding the line while the generals stab you in the back
There's no longer a line, sir
Phil literally disproved this third party a month ago and people ain’t listen, they told people starfield was exclusive for two years and people and listen, the media finally had to admit PlayStation has no games and now they’re pushing hard on this narrative to get Xbox games on PlayStation cuz PlayStation don’t have they own games. The zenimax employee thing was proven fake and so was the Hifi rush t shirt logo as trolling. Within the past year Xbox has started to back off on some of the people in the media. To kings point will they put some games on PlayStation to save them and also to make future acquisitions easier? Perhaps but it ain’t gonna be halo so stop, and PlayStation would still have to give Xbox something in return. I also heard that Xbox consoles have sold worse then the Xbox one then the financial reports came out saying Xbox hardware is up, again 🤔. If sales is the reason, PlayStation gamers don’t even buy Sonys own first party games Sony said this numerous times themselves both in public and in leaks, what makes you or even Microsoft themselves think PlayStation gamers will buy Xbox games? Not to mention most of those games probably can’t even run on the PlayStation
Xbox going 3rd party is travesty. The end result of this will be no more Xbox consoles.
“Men” like little Timmy in tears and very Emotional over exclusivity. Smh 😂
I will still buy an XBOX if these rumours are true. I only play on consoles and I prefer their controller and its where my friends/achievements are. Unless XBOX are putting game pass on PS5 then I will still save a fortune and get them day one. Just have to wait and see what happens. To echo what some panel members said - why spend all that time and money building XBOX into a viable competitor to playstation just to quit when they are about to crush them.
i will play all xbox games on my playstation 5😉
Microsoft shouldn't give Sony a penny!
Game Pass is stepping up and stepping out. being tied to one box isn't enough. She's for the streets!
Microsoft have been looking at every which way to recoup money with strategy changes, layoffs, wanting to double the cost of subs a while ago, sabotaging the rewards program, barely any marketing outside US, having near-zero retail presence in stores here in Australia & other countries where they were everywhere in the OG-360 era, etc., while Playstation & Nintendo still have a massive presence over here.
seems they're looking to go the same route Sega did after the Dreamcast, or make everything Xbox revolve around Game Pass. we joke about no PS6, but we could be seeing no next Xbox even sooner, that "Adorably All-Digital" cylinder might be the last. time will tell...
Why the first scribe of the month sound like a 12 yr old Timdog
Retreat !!! Xbox can’t hold the line
No more exclusives!! I get to buy god of war on my Xbox LFG!!!
Tim dog overreacting so hard to this news smh.
Bro fully on the verge of tears on the pod & made a 7 hour twitter space.
RiskIt on twitter also same energy too.
Online bubble with the hardcore is just embarrassing