Great car, I have mine for 5 years and I can't get enough of it. GT3 its not for everybody, its a go-cart. My Corvette friends can't stand it, its too raw, unfinished sewing machine, they say. I love it.
i feel like both machines are cars thats best not to be compared. The gt3 just does everything well while the z06 excels in specific areas like torque and sound and other things like handling a bit worse than a rear engine lower weight vehicle like the gt3
My newly acquired $5000 1999 civic si brings a huge smile to my face and I own a 417+ hp lexus. Yet I love the feel of lightness around a racetrack in the si
Great video!!! thanks, I was trying to choose a 911 betwen the GT3 2015 or the turbo 2015 and this video makes me realize that that natural aspirated engine rear wheel drive is what I want!! thank you
I agree with your assessment 100%! I’ve driven two 991.1 GT3s like the one you have in the video on track. On one occasion, I also drove a 458 as well as a GTR on track. And on the other occasion I also drove a Huracan. In my opinion, the GT3 is a much better car for anyone Who seriously likes to drive and take it on track occasionally. It feels like that is exactly what it was engineered to do, while the others were just posing 😉!
Smart analysis on why these can be affordable . . . if you can come up with the sales P. If you purchase with mindset that you will sell after one or two years, then you get to drive one the funnest car ever, maybe lose on depreciation. I guess it comes down to if you are a car guy and how badly you want to get into that car. Good review.
Thank you for driving it the way you're supposed to in a non-track environment. Sick of seeing other videos where they pussy foot around a monster of a car. Well done. Thank you.
Well, you perfectly described the 991.1 GT3. Not much to say more. I own one (a 2015 my) since one year and i could not better describe the feeling it gives me each kilometer. This car is so addictive. Congratulation for this passionate but yet accurate report.
I have owned an almost identical GT3 for two years. I bought it because I had the chance to be in one for a couple of days at the Nurburgring and it was stunning. I have modified mine with the help of Dundon Motorsports in Washington state. Replaced the stock wing, added dive planes and a much more effective front splitter. Track times have been radically reduced and it’s so much fun. I am learning but I will never be able to take this car to its limit on a track - it is far more capable than I am but it keeps challenging you to try harder! It helps that you can feel everything that is going on and the car feeds it all back to you in real time. And the red line! Hats off to Porsche engineering. Run this thing all day on a track hitting 9000 regularly - not to mention aggressive downshifting - and then you calm it down, put the air conditioning on, take it out of track mode and drive this track monster peacefully home. I daily drive it and it is extremely comfortable. Wow - what a car.
I bought a 2020 GT4 and have a 997.1 C2S that's heavily modified. Selling both and getting a 991.1 GT3. Test drove it the other day and its an animal at higher revs.
@@ratedm90 the .1 was more visceral when accelerating maximally. I nice kick as it changed gears. The .2 just feels more planted and has a slightly different soundtrack. The .2 just feels a better car.
It might sound weird at first but it's not the first time I hear "GT3" and "affordable" in the same sentence. In fact, if you compare this car to other sports cars such as Ferraris or Lamborghinis it really makes sense, especially if you track the car -- the running costs are much, much different. On a side note: please put clear turn signal indicators. The orange ones are really ugly in my opinion ;-)
Prob an r title. There is a guy in Philly selling a 14 white one for 90k r title. Is worth 60k w r title. 15 is probably worth 70k r titled. I have a 14 9114s and w 13k miles and I could get 87k for it clean history
just realized i'm not subbed, which is funny as i've been following your iG for a while now. this is one of the primary reasons i'd pick a gt3/rs over a 458 which is rare for me to say. i've never driven a gt3 before but i can take a wild guess a 458 just won't nail a corner as hard and agile as a gt3 would
@@TrustMeIKnowEverything you need to change your screen name. Many of the 991.1 have had their motors swapped under warranty, including mine. The new engine kicks ass on the old one.
No they aren't. The 991.1 GT3 with the 3.8l engine is known for engine failures. Extended warranties from Porsche are over in 2024 which explains the roughly 50k difference between these and 991.2 GT3s.
There is no wrong answer to this question. GT3 is faster and has the epic 3.8L GT3 only engine. The GT4 has the engine in the right spot, and has a manual transmission. They share steering, brakes, rotors and front suspension. The engine in the GT4 is amazing, but not epic. I prefer the driving experience in the GT4, but the GT3 is an icon. For me manual trumps the engine as I look for engagement in my driving experiences. But there's no wrong answer here. Follow your heart.
I own a 991 GT3, your comment of older Porsche’s needing you to be an amazing driver is so unfounded. Don’t just talk to say things, you obviously have never driven an old air cooled 911.
I recently watched the yellow bird video hot lapping Nuremberg..... it sacred me to death just sitting at my computer. They use to call the 930 the widow maker (I had one)......i think the most appropriate question is...have you ever driven an air cooled porsche?
I am currently selling a 96’ turbo, I would say learn to be a better driver to your comment. Widow maker is such hyperbole, people say the same thing about the gt2, grow a pair and learn how to drive.
@@smiththrs03 You literally are contradicting yourself. He said you need to be a "better driver" for the older 911's. Your AGREEING with the review. YESSSSS, you need to be a better driver for some of the older 911's due to the snap over steer. The new stuff has solved a lot of those issues. Im glad we are finally in agreement.
Any idiot can launch quickly with an automatic. Eventually you will be able to sit in the back seat and drink a mocha while the car does burnouts for you. Meh. I’ll stick to manual vehicles.
No question the engine is special but the steering is good?! I've driven it on track and on the road and the steering is one of the weakest links of the car as it was the GT team's first iteration of EPS. You lost me on the steering review. The weight loads up but feedback was terrible. Even European car reviewers thought the same which was why the 991.2 GT3/RS were game changers in the steering and all other driver inputs. Heck - GM does a better job with steering calibration in their C7 and Alpha chassis Camaros (particularly in the 1LE guise). On the subject of 'value', perhaps the Porsche tax should be of strong consideration. It's one thing forking over $100k for this car but what about all of preventative maintenance + regular maintenance costs that have to be taken into consideration? It's not like your local jiffy lube can change the oil on one of these. Let's also not forget these have Centerlock wheels, not something your local tire shop can easily change in the middle of nowhere.... One has definitely has to pay to play but the 991 GT3 represents a road car that has sprinkles of 'race car' unnecessarily (Centerlock wheels anyone?) that truly undermines the 'value' equation. Just my 2 cents. Apart from that - keep making awesome content.
I can’t comment on the steering since I have only driven a 991.1 C2S but you’re right about the center locks and maintenance. They essentially made it a requirement to have your car serviced at Porsche and to pay their high labour rate. Center locks are completely unnecessary on street cars. GT cars hold their value better than most but it’s those who have access to exclusive PTS colours and a few rare versions that have and will make money.
@John Mitchell Actually they have more similarities than you think. Both have a flat engine, both are rwd, both are very lightweight, both are N/A, etc. I wasn’t really comparing them, I just always kinda thought that the GT3 was an FRS that was on steroids and meth (hence the bigger engine, more power, more weight, etc.)
@John Mitchell No shit... even with 20 grands of mods, it’d still be 1/3 the price of a GT3 so I would hope it wouldn’t touch a GT3. But it seems like you’re not understanding what I’m trying to say so have a good one.
A Cayman S is much more like an FRS on steroids and meth. Similar weight distribution, both rwd, both should have more power, both are immense fun despite being underpowered, and both are two seat coupes. The steering, brakes, suspension, chassis and reliability go to the Cayman S, as well as power. But that would be a better question than a GT3.
or a turbo s or turbo many other Porsches as Porsche says there’s no substitute for the amazing work they produce and nail it every time nah I have to say it’s worth every penny. It’s not about how the car looks it’s about how it performs and craftsmanship & engineering and Porsche has been nailing that for years
Great car, I have mine for 5 years and I can't get enough of it. GT3 its not for everybody, its a go-cart. My Corvette friends can't stand it, its too raw, unfinished sewing machine, they say. I love it.
That’s what I call mine, a high powered go cart!
I've owned a 2015 GT3 and driven a 2015 Z06 and the Corvette feels like a dollar store toy compared to the absolute WMD the Porsche is
i feel like both machines are cars thats best not to be compared. The gt3 just does everything well while the z06 excels in specific areas like torque and sound and other things like handling a bit worse than a rear engine lower weight vehicle like the gt3
Drove one these on a track a few years back. Amazing car. Absolute rocket ship. I can relate to that look on your face during launch
it depends on what you value. i know some 2000 dollar cars that bring a huge smile to owners.
Value is subjective. Numbers aren’t. Not many distinguish the difference.
Funny you say that, about 7 yrs. ago I purchased my 98' lexus gs400 for $2k, best car I've ever owned, brings a big smile every time I drive it!
My newly acquired $5000 1999 civic si brings a huge smile to my face and I own a 417+ hp lexus. Yet I love the feel of lightness around a racetrack in the si
Great video!!! thanks, I was trying to choose a 911 betwen the GT3 2015 or the turbo 2015 and this video makes me realize that that natural aspirated engine rear wheel drive is what I want!! thank you
I agree with your assessment 100%! I’ve driven two 991.1 GT3s like the one you have in the video on track. On one occasion, I also drove a 458 as well as a GTR on track. And on the other occasion I also drove a Huracan. In my opinion, the GT3 is a much better car for anyone Who seriously likes to drive and take it on track occasionally. It feels like that is exactly what it was engineered to do, while the others were just posing 😉!
Considering how much the value on GT3's has gone up since this video the answer is a sound YES! I don't even need to watch the video lol.
Smart analysis on why these can be affordable . . . if you can come up with the sales P. If you purchase with mindset that you will sell after one or two years, then you get to drive one the funnest car ever, maybe lose on depreciation. I guess it comes down to if you are a car guy and how badly you want to get into that car. Good review.
Thank you for driving it the way you're supposed to in a non-track environment. Sick of seeing other videos where they pussy foot around a monster of a car. Well done. Thank you.
I have driven a 2018 GT3, by far the best car I have driven. Simply a great car to drive. Porsche nailed it.
That's a dream car for a lot of people. Also out of reach for many. My only gripe is the size as well I wish the new porsche were a bit smaller.
Boxster s
997!
Well, you perfectly described the 991.1 GT3. Not much to say more. I own one (a 2015 my) since one year and i could not better describe the feeling it gives me each kilometer. This car is so addictive. Congratulation for this passionate but yet accurate report.
Thank you! Glad an owner agrees.
I have owned an almost identical GT3 for two years. I bought it because I had the chance to be in one for a couple of days at the Nurburgring and it was stunning. I have modified mine with the help of Dundon Motorsports in Washington state. Replaced the stock wing, added dive planes and a much more effective front splitter. Track times have been radically reduced and it’s so much fun. I am learning but I will never be able to take this car to its limit on a track - it is far more capable than I am but it keeps challenging you to try harder! It helps that you can feel everything that is going on and the car feeds it all back to you in real time. And the red line! Hats off to Porsche engineering. Run this thing all day on a track hitting 9000 regularly - not to mention aggressive downshifting - and then you calm it down, put the air conditioning on, take it out of track mode and drive this track monster peacefully home. I daily drive it and it is extremely comfortable. Wow - what a car.
Drove one on a track in Las Vegas. The car is magnificent!
Dude you should have way more Subscribers! Great content 👌
I bought a 2020 GT4 and have a 997.1 C2S that's heavily modified. Selling both and getting a 991.1 GT3. Test drove it the other day and its an animal at higher revs.
Why not the 991.2?
@@ratedm90 I eventually upgraded.1 to a .2
@@NAVMAN987 was there a big difference?
@@ratedm90 the .1 was more visceral when accelerating maximally. I nice kick as it changed gears. The .2 just feels more planted and has a slightly different soundtrack. The .2 just feels a better car.
@@NAVMAN987 That’s what I thought too. Enjoy it!
Love this car. Where do you find a GT3 15 model year and up or even older for a 100k?!? I’ll take 2 please.
You can find them with a few miles on them at this price. This car has 32k miles on it.
@@EatSleepDrive I was really looking hard. In any good shape above 120k. Thank you
Is this car located in New Milford CT? I see it listed for sale on my local Craigslist!
For how much?
Great video
whats the bag type thing in the rear spoiler intake ?
Manual says the car keeps track of how many times it launches
Thoughts on the 991 turbo you reviewed vs this car?
How would you compare the steering and handling compared to the 991 turbo you drove? And If you had to choose one as a daily; which would it be?
As a daily, Turbo no question. The GT3 is an amazing car but the edginess would wear thin after awhile. Turbo is the ultimate daily.
Great Job!! I love your honesty and sincerity about this car👍
Manual transmission = respect
Will be my next car. I’ve driven quite a few. Never been in love with a car the way I am with this one.
You'll love it!
Amazing car, but the gt3 997 has to be the choice for me!
991.2 GT3 with a manual for me. But my opinion might change once the 992 comes out :)
@John Mitchell Also 4x the money of the 991.1 GT3
These cars should not be street legal from the factory. Way too good to be on the street. It’s basically perfection that is actually reliable!
It might sound weird at first but it's not the first time I hear "GT3" and "affordable" in the same sentence. In fact, if you compare this car to other sports cars such as Ferraris or Lamborghinis it really makes sense, especially if you track the car -- the running costs are much, much different.
On a side note: please put clear turn signal indicators. The orange ones are really ugly in my opinion ;-)
Lol, this just came up in my feed - $100k? Not anymore!!!!
at least 150k now : (
One thing wrong with this car it’s not a manual
Drove this route today! East side Cincinnati :)
I saw a 991.1 gt3 for like 87k recently. So tempting!!
Where?
@@jakes.5143 It was on autotrader located in So Cal I believe. It had a mate wrap with livery and was red underneath 😁
Prob an r title. There is a guy in Philly selling a 14 white one for 90k r title. Is worth 60k w r title. 15 is probably worth 70k r titled. I have a 14 9114s and w 13k miles and I could get 87k for it clean history
I can't stop driving mine, it tears of corners
1st?
Love the GT3!
my morning coffee
just realized i'm not subbed, which is funny as i've been following your iG for a while now. this is one of the primary reasons i'd pick a gt3/rs over a 458 which is rare for me to say. i've never driven a gt3 before but i can take a wild guess a 458 just won't nail a corner as hard and agile as a gt3 would
Has this one had the engine replaced? Noticeably more mid range torque in the new motors.
Why would it have engine replaced lol
@@TrustMeIKnowEverything you need to change your screen name. Many of the 991.1 have had their motors swapped under warranty, including mine. The new engine kicks ass on the old one.
@@Raiderrosey wronnnnng not for gt3
@@Raiderrosey this is the 4litre bro
@@TrustMeIKnowEverything check your facts on a 2015 sir
This video aged good
What is the color of this GT3?
How will the 991.1 gt3 holds its value after the 10 year engine warranty expires in 2024?
I’m curious about that as well. Will probably drop at that point due to the risk of engine issues. I’d probably still buy one if the price is right.
Guide me to where I can buy this for 100k..
THE SOUND!!!! DAMN!!!!
Yesssss
subscribed porsche lover here
Why are you doing this review on the old gt3 surely you would be doing this video with the 4.0?
As soon as I heard “wat the actual peeep” I hit like 😂
Are they reliable
No they aren't. The 991.1 GT3 with the 3.8l engine is known for engine failures. Extended warranties from Porsche are over in 2024 which explains the roughly 50k difference between these and 991.2 GT3s.
I didn't know that turbo and turbo s have more power than this car gt3.i thought that gt3 are the most powerful
Drop the clutch? Its an auto right?
100K???? did it APPRECIATE?? lol
Looks pretty good!
Would you daily this?
seems like a great deal to me!
Good value ya' ask? Well, sir,
Great cars!
not for street. shock replacement is thousand$$$
Yes!
No manual trans = no respect
I got the exact spec haha
a brand new GT4 or this... hmmmm
To row your own or not...? that is the question.
Great car
Best value.
A 981 GT4 its a better option tbh
Would you rather have the GT3 or a Cayman GT4?
GT3. GT4 with the carerra s engine just isn't special enough, but since the GT4 is a manual it's a compelling argument.
Seriously?
There is no wrong answer to this question. GT3 is faster and has the epic 3.8L GT3 only engine. The GT4 has the engine in the right spot, and has a manual transmission. They share steering, brakes, rotors and front suspension. The engine in the GT4 is amazing, but not epic. I prefer the driving experience in the GT4, but the GT3 is an icon. For me manual trumps the engine as I look for engagement in my driving experiences. But there's no wrong answer here. Follow your heart.
If u have money, and if u buy a gt4, then you will regret not buying gt3 in the next few months.. gt4 is way too harsh and not very special
Lol I guess EatSleepDrive will have to change his response now
I own a 991 GT3, your comment of older Porsche’s needing you to be an amazing driver is so unfounded. Don’t just talk to say things, you obviously have never driven an old air cooled 911.
I recently watched the yellow bird video hot lapping Nuremberg..... it sacred me to death just sitting at my computer. They use to call the 930 the widow maker (I had one)......i think the most appropriate question is...have you ever driven an air cooled porsche?
I am currently selling a 96’ turbo, I would say learn to be a better driver to your comment. Widow maker is such hyperbole, people say the same thing about the gt2, grow a pair and learn how to drive.
@@smiththrs03 You literally are contradicting yourself. He said you need to be a "better driver" for the older 911's. Your AGREEING with the review. YESSSSS, you need to be a better driver for some of the older 911's due to the snap over steer. The new stuff has solved a lot of those issues. Im glad we are finally in agreement.
@@stevemarcagios9114 exactly
Anyone who has driven both near the limit would disagree. Even a 997 to 991 have MUCH different driving characteristics.
Love it
Any idiot can launch quickly with an automatic. Eventually you will be able to sit in the back seat and drink a mocha while the car does burnouts for you. Meh. I’ll stick to manual vehicles.
They aren’t 100k anymore lol
No question the engine is special but the steering is good?! I've driven it on track and on the road and the steering is one of the weakest links of the car as it was the GT team's first iteration of EPS. You lost me on the steering review. The weight loads up but feedback was terrible. Even European car reviewers thought the same which was why the 991.2 GT3/RS were game changers in the steering and all other driver inputs. Heck - GM does a better job with steering calibration in their C7 and Alpha chassis Camaros (particularly in the 1LE guise).
On the subject of 'value', perhaps the Porsche tax should be of strong consideration. It's one thing forking over $100k for this car but what about all of preventative maintenance + regular maintenance costs that have to be taken into consideration? It's not like your local jiffy lube can change the oil on one of these.
Let's also not forget these have Centerlock wheels, not something your local tire shop can easily change in the middle of nowhere....
One has definitely has to pay to play but the 991 GT3 represents a road car that has sprinkles of 'race car' unnecessarily (Centerlock wheels anyone?) that truly undermines the 'value' equation.
Just my 2 cents.
Apart from that - keep making awesome content.
Wasn’t this the year for engine fires? And doesn’t the value take this into consideration?
@@chuckbernstein3360 They had a recall, why it would be a factor into it ?
I can’t comment on the steering since I have only driven a 991.1 C2S but you’re right about the center locks and maintenance. They essentially made it a requirement to have your car serviced at Porsche and to pay their high labour rate. Center locks are completely unnecessary on street cars. GT cars hold their value better than most but it’s those who have access to exclusive PTS colours and a few rare versions that have and will make money.
Center locks are annoying. Most tire shops won’t touch them
It’s not a manual. No respect. (Don’t care if pdk is faster)
As an FRS owner, would you say this car is basically an FRS on steroids and meth?
It's way too different to even compare, with all the drugs in the world.
Lol no
@John Mitchell
Actually they have more similarities than you think. Both have a flat engine, both are rwd, both are very lightweight, both are N/A, etc. I wasn’t really comparing them, I just always kinda thought that the GT3 was an FRS that was on steroids and meth (hence the bigger engine, more power, more weight, etc.)
@John Mitchell
No shit... even with 20 grands of mods, it’d still be 1/3 the price of a GT3 so I would hope it wouldn’t touch a GT3. But it seems like you’re not understanding what I’m trying to say so have a good one.
A Cayman S is much more like an FRS on steroids and meth. Similar weight distribution, both rwd, both should have more power, both are immense fun despite being underpowered, and both are two seat coupes. The steering, brakes, suspension, chassis and reliability go to the Cayman S, as well as power. But that would be a better question than a GT3.
That’s a weird looking s2000
If you can’t tell the difference between EPS and hydraulic, you should not be reviewing cars
Calm down cool guy. I guess you’re more perceptive than literally everyone else who have reviewed this car
Automatic = ew
Sorry but 911s look way too boring to warrant a 6 figure price tag
Completely agree. Drive a GT3 and You instantly change your mind.
or a turbo s or turbo many other Porsches as Porsche says there’s no substitute for the amazing work they produce and nail it every time nah I have to say it’s worth every penny. It’s not about how the car looks it’s about how it performs and craftsmanship & engineering and Porsche has been nailing that for years
That car sucks
Sure
I have driven a 2018 GT3, by far the best car I have driven. Simply a great car to drive. Porsche nailed it.
it depends on what you value. i know some 2000 dollar cars that bring a huge smile to owners.