Another fantastic video Max. Shout out to Curtis, Karen & Homeless (I'm a subscriber to CCE) Its expensive tooling that was gifted, even in used condition. And not to mention Matty! Making videos while receiving treatment. Nice one guys. (Curtis, Karen. Give Homeless a pet for me👍)
The UK adopting the metric system put paid to the imperial threads BSF, BSW, BA etc. I was an apprentice in the early 70's so I was taught in both imperial and metric, which was a huge advantage. Nicely done making the screws, to the old school specs. I watch all 3 of you gift givers, they are all fine engineers and are worth watching, as are you too! Good post, thank you 👍
Thanks . My apprentice years were the first half of the 1980's & a mix of metric and imperial . There was a lot of converting to do on imperial lathes & metric milling machines ! 👍
I was in my 3rd year apprenticeship was when the government changed to metric. One has to think how many thousand of the Australian dollars was spent for the metric measuring equipment with out the public knowing. @@swanvalleymachineshop
I was born in the 80s, so educated solely in metric. At least at the level of conversation though, imperial so often just makes sense - inches and thumbs, feet and, well, feet. It's all just that bit more relatable. Technically, BA threads are metric - 0BA defined as 1mm pitch on an OD of 6mm. Each BA number is the previous pitch multiplied by 0.9, diameter being 6x pitch.
Hi Max and channel. I really took note of the repeat process as multi-part product. So often, I am at a single task it is an over looked component as to product 5, 10 20 each. So, I had the chance to work toward repeat, tool settings and feed. Here at my shop the evening temp is 0 degrees C and so as a week forecast. Thanks for the nice post, as I am delighted to take notes as to best practice and finish. Regards from Washington State, US. M.
Cheers Ralfy . The slotting part , the customer will take care off . I would just do it in the mill & a slitting saw , with the screw screwed into an arbor . 👍
Hi Max. Upside down parting blade also works fantastic for radius with four flute radius milling cutters used in the lathe. No more chatter even with such large form cutters. Thanks for all the education over the years.
Hi Max, like the form tool for quick machining. Yes not much use anymore for BSW and BSF taps and dies, i have full sets up to 1/2" and not used them since the nineties. Had to single point a 3.5mm x .5mm thread for a Mitutoyo bore gauge the other day, my eyes aren't what they used to be but succeeded.
Lol , i have never cut a thread below 1/4 '' or 6mm on a lathe ! All this old stuff from 1940 that i have been doing is all BSF , now i have to slowly stock up on BSF ! 👍
Max my 13x42 DSG had a brass thread cutting chart for the full range of BA threads, I thought was a bit optimistic but doable with a magnifying glass I guess.
Always enjoy watching as a guy makes the magic happen in the machine shop, especially with the amount of talent and sheer style of legend such as yourself sir ! On vacation and begrudging every moment away from my little shop, this is just what I needed to keep me sane. Thanks max. Right on time. 🍻
Hey Max, nice little job with the CS Screws. Yes Rapidue are Italian, I have them on my lathes. Those are pretty fancy looking bits of kit. You reminded me that I must turn my part off tool upside down.
Cheers Graham . The Herron has one on it as well , just bigger . I was thinking about using the Multifix tool post from the JFMT & fitting it to the T&C grinder . 👍
Took me back to my auto days there Max, HSS form tool doing almost everything (much overlooked these days and I am as guilty). Nice gifts and Matty made a cracking job on that change gear! Cheers, Jon
Nice job on the screws , when you showed the sticker board I was looking for ( Old Iron Machine Works ) Gary , is the guy that turned me on to your channel , he's a very talented guy that I really liked watching but he has not made a video in 6 months or more . I hope he is ok , if you or anyone else knows what happened to him please let me know . Thank you for the videos Max , I really enjoy watching and learning from them
@@Elmview_workshop It is a more rigid way of mounting the parting blade. When used in the conventional way, the cutting pressure on the tool forces the tip down and into the cut. The reason is that the pivot point is in front of the compound slide. The opposite happens when you mount the tool inverted. It tends to flex up and away from the work. There are also more subtle reasons for a parting blade digging in. The backlash in the cross slide nut and the clearance in the dovetail slide all contribute to that sudden and often catastrophic dig in. Regards, Mark
More common here . I don't know if you can even buy a genuine Alois here . I have mostly always used that style of tool post , old habits die hard ! Cheers Tom 👍
Max, nice demonstration of short-run production! Also, since AusArmour (The Australian Armour & Artillery Museum) uploads weekly videos showing maintenance & rebuilds of tanks & artillery pieces for their Museum without RUclips getting upset -- you and your customer ought to safely be able to say "certain words" (on RUclips) that are more descriptive of your customer's "tractor."
I have a very similar lathe probably made in the same factory. It has an American style apron but the headstock looks the same, and I cannot cut 1.75 threads with it either....WTF Tawain? do you not use 12mm 1.75 threads? Bloody nice haul from Kurtis on those those tool posts eh?
So tool 'pushes' headstock bearings down tighter instead of lifting them. Even if everything is properly adjusted, the oil film can be enough 'lift' when parting to cause chatter or tool/component damage
Isn't it an 82 degree angle of taper for countersunk/ flat head BSF with a 55 degree thread angle? Pretty sure most of Europe will have no idea as metric are 90 degree taper with 60 degree thread angle
I can't remember if I mentioned this to you before Max, but im not usually one for leaving comments. There are a couple of reasons for this. One is because, when I leave them usually on videos months or years down the line, you guys won't get to read them. That's what I was told. Let me know if this info is true or not. Another reason is that most people have said what I would have said already. In which case, what's the point of me saying stuff most other people have said already? I'm not a parrot, I'm not a sheep, and I'm not someone who says things for the sake of it. I do and say what I want when I want. But more often, sorry, at the beginning, I should have said a few, not a couple of reasons, is that I can't think of a dam good thing to say. As you can see, im playing catchup with your videos. I've still got 4 months worth to go, plus a few odd ones from 2 and 3 years ago that I skipped past. Sorry, but the titles didn't suggest to me something I was interested in, but because RUclips keeps suggesting your videos, I got to see some of them, some I should never have skipped past. More fool me. But don't you worry mate, I'll watch the bloody lot sooner or later. It's just that what with playing catch up to at least one new channel every week I add to my list, we'll, there's not enough hours in the day, is there? That and the rabbit holes I dive into! Another reason is that when I do leave comments, they tend to be long ones, just like this time, and this usually upsets some viewers who take it upon themselves to send me unkind messages. This is another reason why I nolonger use social media. Tell me, Max. Do you have an opinion on why some viewers get upset with me leaving you or other RUclipsrs a long comment? Man, you should see the backlash I get sometimes. They usually say things like, "I should get a life or im an attention seeking fukka" or some really insulting shit that's not worth republishing or soiling your comments section with here. It's great that you gave a shout-out to other RUclipsrs. I've seen you do this before. I subscribe to a few Aussie channels and in my book, Kurtis with his sidekick safety officer big Nutts, oops, sorry, I meant Homeless, and the wonderful talented Karen. The cutest camera lady I've heard. She's a dabhand at getting the right shot every time. Not to mention saving all of the bloopers Kurtis makes. Nice touch to show them all at the end. A nice montage to end on. Nice move, Karen 😉 Kurtis really is a Fooking legend 😂 I've subscribed to CEE Australia since the third video all those years ago. It's not surprising, just how many British RUclipsrs subscribe to you and Kurtis channels. They often make references to their viewers to subscribe to your channels. Who would have thought it. Poms biggin up Assies.😂 It's difficult to explain about Kurtis without giving the impression that I have a crush on him, a bromance 😂 Oi! you slags out there, I don't, got it!. There's no bromance, no crush, he's just a cobber, a great guy, with a great channel, that's all. The way he explains, and I know it takes him a shit load of attempts for him to get it out sometimes, which is where Karren comes into a light all of her own. That girl must have the patience of a Saint! I once watched him do seven outakes because he couldn't get one words out. It was a simple sentence but he got there in the end, poor guy. You and Kurtis have a different approach to the projects you do. The way you present yourselves and the comic value you bring to the table is a relief. I know Australians curse a lot. It's in your blood, your nature, I guess, but you, Max, you have the upper hand on Kurtis in that regard. Kurtis usually sticks to "fcuk it, fcuk off" or just "fcuk" but you my friend, you take it to another level and the things you say sometimes crease me up. If I were sitting on a bar stool, you would be the reason why I fell off it. Rolling around the floor, holding my belly in laughing. The cracks you come out with at times are simply priceless.😂 Keep up the good work, and see you soon in the next video. Cheers, cobber.👍⚒️🏴
Great job mate
Cheers Matty 🍺🍺🍺
Another fantastic video Max. Shout out to Curtis, Karen & Homeless (I'm a subscriber to CCE) Its expensive tooling that was gifted, even in used condition. And not to mention Matty! Making videos while receiving treatment. Nice one guys. (Curtis, Karen. Give Homeless a pet for me👍)
Thanks 👍
The UK adopting the metric system put paid to the imperial threads BSF, BSW, BA etc. I was an apprentice in the early 70's so I was taught in both imperial and metric, which was a huge advantage. Nicely done making the screws, to the old school specs. I watch all 3 of you gift givers, they are all fine engineers and are worth watching, as are you too! Good post, thank you 👍
Me too, 1974
Thanks . My apprentice years were the first half of the 1980's & a mix of metric and imperial . There was a lot of converting to do on imperial lathes & metric milling machines ! 👍
I was in my 3rd year apprenticeship was when the government changed to metric. One has to think how many thousand of the Australian dollars was spent for the metric measuring equipment with out the public knowing. @@swanvalleymachineshop
I was born in the 80s, so educated solely in metric. At least at the level of conversation though, imperial so often just makes sense - inches and thumbs, feet and, well, feet. It's all just that bit more relatable.
Technically, BA threads are metric - 0BA defined as 1mm pitch on an OD of 6mm. Each BA number is the previous pitch multiplied by 0.9, diameter being 6x pitch.
that are some nice gifts max from CEE.
you make it look easy on the screw making.
cheers ben.
Thanks . 👍
Thanks for allowing us into your shop to show us your helpful tip on knocking out those screws.
No worries 👍
Enjoyed…nice build and gifts
Thanks 👍
Nice job 👍 on screwing around 😉
Thanks 👍
Nice - thanks for the mini-production demo. Like the approach of using the die chaser to normalize the results with little effort. 👍👍😎👍👍
These have to be slotted head . Parts for a restoration project , they even get letter stamped like the originals from 1940 . 👍
Wow, the metal sure peeled off neatly under the form tool. Thanks Max 👍
Gotta love a bit of high speed steel sometimes ! 👍
Oh my, I appear to be first to comment. Cheers from Malaysia. Some lovely new toolposts - deluxe! Ian.
Thanks 👍
I love process videos. The problem of how to efficiently make a bunch of somethings is always interesting.
Cheers Rob . 👍
Another great one Max good work good friends good life
Cheers 👍
Neat to see you reference your dad's books. Have a great 2024 from Minnesota! I also like the old photos.
Thanks . 👍
Looks like a great day in the shop dude congrats on the new stuff good friends those!
Thanks 👍
WOW !!!
great scores from Matty and Curtis, nice 😀
Thanks 👍
Next to you, Kurtis and Karen of CEE and Dame and crew of Project Brupeg, I am enamored with watching all of you. Great content and massive skills.
Thanks 👍
Hi Max and channel. I really took note of the repeat process as multi-part product. So often, I am at a single task it is an over looked component as to product 5, 10 20 each. So, I had the
chance to work toward repeat, tool settings and feed. Here at my shop the evening temp is 0 degrees C and so as a week forecast. Thanks for the nice post, as I am delighted to take notes as to best practice and finish. Regards from Washington State, US. M.
Thanks . We are in the middle of a week long heat wave here , wish it was winter ! 👍
Great little proect Max. Enjoyed, cheers!
Thanks 👍
Far out Max, g'day mate and nicely done as always my friend, would have liked to see how you would have slotted the buggers
Cheers Ralfy . The slotting part , the customer will take care off . I would just do it in the mill & a slitting saw , with the screw screwed into an arbor . 👍
Well that answers my question. Thanks.@@swanvalleymachineshop
Hi Max. Upside down parting blade also works fantastic for radius with four flute radius milling cutters used in the lathe. No more chatter even with such large form cutters. Thanks for all the education over the years.
No worries , Thanks . 👍
Making small screws an a lathe is a lot of "screwing around" Max. Got to get yourself a turret lathe lol! Great job and video. Cheers from the USA!😎
I have got one , Just have to get it going one of these days ! 👍
Hi Max, like the form tool for quick machining.
Yes not much use anymore for BSW and BSF taps and dies, i have full sets up to 1/2" and not used them since the nineties.
Had to single point a 3.5mm x .5mm thread for a Mitutoyo bore gauge the other day, my eyes aren't what they used to be but succeeded.
Lol , i have never cut a thread below 1/4 '' or 6mm on a lathe ! All this old stuff from 1940 that i have been doing is all BSF , now i have to slowly stock up on BSF ! 👍
Max my 13x42 DSG had a brass thread cutting chart for the full range of BA threads, I thought was a bit optimistic but doable with a magnifying glass I guess.
Always enjoy watching as a guy makes the magic happen in the machine shop, especially with the amount of talent and sheer style of legend such as yourself sir !
On vacation and begrudging every moment away from my little shop, this is just what I needed to keep me sane. Thanks max. Right on time. 🍻
No worries , Cheers 👍
Handy job for after the supper 😂
Cheers 👍
BSW carbide threading inserts are available from Kennametal if you need to do production work.
Thanks . That was a 55 deg insert i was using . 👍
Hey Max, nice little job with the CS Screws. Yes Rapidue are Italian, I have them on my lathes. Those are pretty fancy looking bits of kit. You reminded me that I must turn my part off tool upside down.
Cheers Graham . The Herron has one on it as well , just bigger . I was thinking about using the Multifix tool post from the JFMT & fitting it to the T&C grinder . 👍
👍👌
Cheers Chris
Thanks 👍
good video friend Max
Thanks 👍
That should insure the tractor is “plowing straight rows”. 👍
Straight as an arrow ! Cheers 👍
Took me back to my auto days there Max, HSS form tool doing almost everything (much overlooked these days and I am as guilty). Nice gifts and Matty made a cracking job on that change gear! Cheers, Jon
Perfect job for a bit of HSS , i love it as you don't get burnt with the hot stuff ! 👍
Nice setup Max, 2-ops from one cutter is brilliant ! Your always teaching us something 👍
Cheers....ATB.....
Thanks Dean . 👍
Perfect job for a capstan lathe
On day i will get my one running ! 👍
You're spoiled, Max. That's some very nice tooling you received there. Early Chrismas :)
You are not wrong there Rusty . Cheers 👍
Max you is a Peach! Thanks for the look and your time.
No worries 👍
Nice job on the screws , when you showed the sticker board I was looking for ( Old Iron Machine Works ) Gary , is the guy that turned me on to your channel , he's a very talented guy that I really liked watching but he has not made a video in 6 months or more . I hope he is ok , if you or anyone else knows what happened to him please let me know . Thank you for the videos Max , I really enjoy watching and learning from them
I talk to Gary quite often, he's just super busy.
ATB.....
Gary's channel sticker is on my tool cabinet . Thanks 👍
Another awesome video young Max.
From kiwi land.
Cheers 👍
Excellent job max, great video..
No worries 👍
You can find most sizes of BSF screws and bolts in the UK easily.
Thanks . These have to have slotted heads , for a 1940's military restoration . 👍
Funny asf Curtis has a "little channel " but yes hes a top bloke
Lol , maybe for about one day he did !!! 👍
Nice one Max. How do you like the inverted parting tool? They're not as common as they should be.
The only way to go Preso . It's just an ordinary one turned over . 👍
What is the reason/benefits of running the parting tool upside down?
@@Elmview_workshop It is a more rigid way of mounting the parting blade. When used in the conventional way, the cutting pressure on the tool forces the tip down and into the cut. The reason is that the pivot point is in front of the compound slide. The opposite happens when you mount the tool inverted. It tends to flex up and away from the work. There are also more subtle reasons for a parting blade digging in. The backlash in the cross slide nut and the clearance in the dovetail slide all contribute to that sudden and often catastrophic dig in.
Regards,
Mark
Never hurts to do a little screwing around in the shop. 😄Nice tool posts. Is that style of holders easy to find? They are not that common over here.
More common here . I don't know if you can even buy a genuine Alois here . I have mostly always used that style of tool post , old habits die hard ! Cheers Tom 👍
Max, nice demonstration of short-run production! Also, since AusArmour (The Australian Armour & Artillery Museum) uploads weekly videos showing maintenance & rebuilds of tanks & artillery pieces for their Museum without RUclips getting upset -- you and your customer ought to safely be able to say "certain words" (on RUclips) that are more descriptive of your customer's "tractor."
Quite possibly . But the boys in blue have ultra strict laws about this type of thing here , i would have to make some discrete inquiries . Thanks 👍
try classic fasteners in south aust they have a lot of bsw/bsf but they tend to be longer lengths so hacksaw or part down to length
Thanks . Not sure if they would have slotted heads though . The customer will slot the heads himself as it's parts for a 1940's restoration . 👍
I love it when you say to the youngens “needs about a 1/16” off” and you get the look of WTF lol.
Lol , true ! 👍
G'day Max. Great setup for cuttung the shank & taper face. Well done 😊
Thanks 👍
Thx for the vid.
No worries 👍
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Cheers 👍👍👍
I have a very similar lathe probably made in the same factory. It has an American style apron but the headstock looks the same, and I cannot cut 1.75 threads with it either....WTF Tawain? do you not use 12mm 1.75 threads? Bloody nice haul from Kurtis on those those tool posts eh?
Thanks . Yes , not as if 1.75 is uncommon ! 👍
Max is there any reason why you used the parting tool in reverse.
So tool 'pushes' headstock bearings down tighter instead of lifting them.
Even if everything is properly adjusted, the oil film can be enough 'lift' when parting to cause chatter or tool/component damage
It gives less chatter trouble , esp with hard steels . Also unlikely to dig in & break . 👍
Chips also fall out rather than in.
Max Still far amount BSW BSF available in uk easy just found Allan hex csk your size but need cutting length down
Steve
Thanks . These have to have slotted heads as they are for a 1940's restoration . 👍
Hi Max, Hope you got those screws right, or that whole tractor job could blow up in your face. lol
She'll be right ! 👍
Isn't it an 82 degree angle of taper for countersunk/ flat head BSF with a 55 degree thread angle?
Pretty sure most of Europe will have no idea as metric are 90 degree taper with 60 degree thread angle
Do you not think that Max would have checked the angle and made the dozen to match the sample?
55 deg thread & 90 deg csk , as per the sample . 👍
@@bobhudson6659 I'm sure he would but didn't mention it in intro.
You didn't thank Karl. We all know he's the brains behind CEE. 😂
Lol , 👍
Cockah !!
Lol , Cheers 👍
I can't remember if I mentioned this to you before Max, but im not usually one for leaving comments.
There are a couple of reasons for this. One is because, when I leave them usually on videos months or years down the line, you guys won't get to read them. That's what I was told. Let me know if this info is true or not.
Another reason is that most people have said what I would have said already. In which case, what's the point of me saying stuff most other people have said already? I'm not a parrot, I'm not a sheep, and I'm not someone who says things for the sake of it. I do and say what I want when I want.
But more often, sorry, at the beginning, I should have said a few, not a couple of reasons, is that I can't think of a dam good thing to say.
As you can see, im playing catchup with your videos. I've still got 4 months worth to go, plus a few odd ones from 2 and 3 years ago that I skipped past.
Sorry, but the titles didn't suggest to me something I was interested in, but because RUclips keeps suggesting your videos, I got to see some of them, some I should never have skipped past. More fool me.
But don't you worry mate, I'll watch the bloody lot sooner or later. It's just that what with playing catch up to at least one new channel every week I add to my list, we'll, there's not enough hours in the day, is there? That and the rabbit holes I dive into!
Another reason is that when I do leave comments, they tend to be long ones, just like this time, and this usually upsets some viewers who take it upon themselves to send me unkind messages. This is another reason why I nolonger use social media.
Tell me, Max. Do you have an opinion on why some viewers get upset with me leaving you or other RUclipsrs a long comment? Man, you should see the backlash I get sometimes. They usually say things like, "I should get a life or im an attention seeking fukka" or some really insulting shit that's not worth republishing or soiling your comments section with here.
It's great that you gave a shout-out to other RUclipsrs. I've seen you do this before. I subscribe to a few Aussie channels and in my book, Kurtis with his sidekick safety officer big Nutts, oops, sorry, I meant Homeless, and the wonderful talented Karen. The cutest camera lady I've heard. She's a dabhand at getting the right shot every time. Not to mention saving all of the bloopers Kurtis makes. Nice touch to show them all at the end. A nice montage to end on. Nice move, Karen 😉
Kurtis really is a Fooking legend 😂 I've subscribed to CEE Australia since the third video all those years ago. It's not surprising, just how many British RUclipsrs subscribe to you and Kurtis channels. They often make references to their viewers to subscribe to your channels. Who would have thought it. Poms biggin up Assies.😂
It's difficult to explain about Kurtis without giving the impression that I have a crush on him, a bromance 😂 Oi! you slags out there, I don't, got it!. There's no bromance, no crush, he's just a cobber, a great guy, with a great channel, that's all.
The way he explains, and I know it takes him a shit load of attempts for him to get it out sometimes, which is where Karren comes into a light all of her own. That girl must have the patience of a Saint! I once watched him do seven outakes because he couldn't get one words out. It was a simple sentence but he got there in the end, poor guy.
You and Kurtis have a different approach to the projects you do. The way you present yourselves and the comic value you bring to the table is a relief. I know Australians curse a lot. It's in your blood, your nature, I guess, but you, Max, you have the upper hand on Kurtis in that regard.
Kurtis usually sticks to "fcuk it, fcuk off" or just "fcuk" but you my friend, you take it to another level and the things you say sometimes crease me up. If I were sitting on a bar stool, you would be the reason why I fell off it. Rolling around the floor, holding my belly in laughing. The cracks you come out with at times are simply priceless.😂
Keep up the good work, and see you soon in the next video. Cheers, cobber.👍⚒️🏴
Thanks . Any comment is a good comment . It helps the YT algorithm thingy , the way they promote the videos ! Cheers 👍
let's hope your Customer brings in something far more demanding for you to attend to,
Lol . 👍