@@nukerzerothefirst3417 we the people have the power to make the Governor General sort it out. If sufficient number of us communicate to the Governor General that we have no confidence in the Government and instruct the Governor General to issue writs for a fresh election.
we the people have the power to make the Governor General sort it out. If sufficient number of us communicate to the Governor General that we have no confidence in the Government and instruct the Governor General to issue writs for a fresh election.
My recommendation is that none of the parties currently in Parliament are in any way trustworthy, they all have to go. They are all cut from the same cloth and glossed over with marginally different veneers. My vote will be going to the best party option not currently in Parliament.
@@ianh9091 Oh here we go... Another DNZ voter. Similar to TOP. Wasted vote. ^This is why the right block might lose this election. A 'principled' vote translation: a wasted grandstand. Says it all...
Nah ship still has a captain and referring to maori as rats is typical ballheaded behavior but we seen it all before its nothing new.. that's FK head new zealand in a nutshell but they still can't bet us hahaha smarter bigger faster and stronger that's Kerry's BETA boy problem.. were happy to stay ALPHA.. Happy waitangi day!!!
So right nz will be like south Africa in 10 years time labor politicians have been told they are special people a lot of them are still getting food parcels like they did in covid education health special people
England setting up the Waitangi legal document set this in motion. Get it right. When your old and go to hospital or hospice, pray u get cultural health care assistants, nurses and Dr's. Caucasian staff moan all day in front of the patients and rough. Like your moaning now. Cultured staff never, that I witnessed. Cultured more likely to take u home and care for u. It was heart breaking to witness patients abandoned or family don't want to take them home. Count your Blessings I say.
The “waka-jumping” clause is not being invoked because it suits them - Chippy can now distance himself from the more radical members and continue the charade of being old school Labour. At the same time, he knows that his is the only party that the Maori Party would join in coalition. Win/win for Labour, Lose/lose for the rest of us. True enough democracy is under attack, but this matters not a jot to the Left, as they consider their cause so righteous.
Very, very good reason for not voting labour. Chris Hipkins is just playing games with us, hoping his nice boy next door look will make us forget how much labour is in the pocket of Nanaia Mahuta and her resource grabbing cousins and friends.
So Shaun who can call this lot to be accountable, it seems as if these MPs can do what they like, as we know that is not democracy, the sooner that this bs is called out and action taken it will continue to make a joke of everything, we are getting more like some African despot nation by the day
Politicians are voted in and swear in to represent there constituents they agree to uphold the rules of parliament , these are two rogue members acting not out of selflessness to serve the community but rather selfishness. I don't think they are suited to politics & will most likely fade away to political obscurity.
The 'Waka Jumping' is unfair to the people who voted them in. They should have both Resigned from their Parties and waited for the next Election to join the Maori Party.
Politicians are NOT controled by laws like the rest of society , but by suggestions that they can ignore at their convenience. Democracy is not able to be run on the cheap ,principles should be held at all cost and not flippantly toss aside with a " oh we're having a election soon let just wait till then ". The so called waka jumping bill should be absolute and not a choice of convenience to this or that party because they're worry when it's their turn to rule it might just happy to them .
The recent waka jumping may not be informing us of who are the real supporters of democracy but it sure indicates who have blatant disregard! Is there a nexus between attitude to this round of waka jumping and promotion of separatism (co-gov etc)? They have the look of being outward manifestations of inwardly held anti-democratic ideologies with a huge dose of elitist arrogance.
I personally cannot help but wonder if these two Waka Jumping M.P's one of whom is/was a List MP, who did get enough electorate votes to EARN the seat she held, and has willingly given up, have been able to behave in the appalling, undemocratic way they have, and continue to behave, because they are Maori, and the Speaker of the House, who I believe is also Maori, is scared of the inevitable fall out, along with accusations of Racism, which would undoubtedly occur should he deal with these two women correctly? This current Labour Government has follishly allowed the Maori Party of New Zealand, who represent, at most, twenty percent of the entire population of this once democratic nation, to both have to much say within Cabinet, and dictate what this Government does while in power? Whoa Betide the peace and tranquility of this country should the Maori Party, especially with the current crop of people at the head, become "Kingmakers" at the end of the october general election?
The Green list woman is out, she should be replaced with another Green pol.. Whaitiri has a personal mandate from the voters of her electorate and she may or may not think it ethical to resign and reaffirm that mandate, but she does have a personal mandate until the next election.
When is Winston going to finish pulling documents out of his wine box? Winston didnt resign he got told to leave for assaulting John Banks on camera we all saw it. Never charged attacks fishermen off the coast of where he lives the sand spit he got pad to claim back for Maori and kept for himself and you go to him to talk about honesty and decency in bolitics your on the top of your game all right.
.Removing boundaries in Law to keep Children safe from Adults should be the Number 1 Priority. More than ever now Labour Removed the Children's Commission...
I disagree with a full Maori party parliament which there will never be, Maori politicans are far too divided within parliament. What I do agree is that Winster Peters should be the next Maori Prime Minister. Lets face it Te Pati Maori party will just be another party with more Maori politicans, who reality are busy arguing in parliament rather than looking within to better our people, so they are getting paid lots of money and not really doing a dame thing. What has these Maori done for Maori except Winston who created a Green card for our elderly in general and they received free public transport etc. I no of Donna Awatere who corrupted the pepe funds.
I don't recall Winston being so strong on "electoral integrity" when he won the Northland by-election in 2015. On today's argument, National should have got another list MP to preserve proportionality. This bill was only ever demanded by NZ First to allow Winston to keep his MP's in line as he could threaten to remove them.
Good to see two "strong Women" deciding which rules they feel like following - and feeling free to swan off and do whatever they like - when they feel that circumstances don't suit them currently. Nice to know that everyones feelings are the standard we are moving towards upholding as sacrosanct. Nothing is more important than feelings... Women leading the way in our country - again. /S
The Governor General should step in and put this right, it's a shambolic mess.
Yeah , need a snap election .
the Governor general cant and is also a maori ? like the speaker of the house , not saying as self severing as the mps ?
@@nukerzerothefirst3417 Unfortunately it's not a constitutional crisis but yes she is Maori.
@@nukerzerothefirst3417 we the people have the power to make the Governor General sort it out. If sufficient number of us communicate to the Governor General that we have no confidence in the Government and instruct the Governor General to issue writs for a fresh election.
Really SHE is maori, a very SMART move from the other racist PM, Oh the one who RAN away!!!
Go Winston.
Sick to death of the treachery of anything to do with politician corruption
You are not alone in that....roll on the election!
Agreed 👍
Should be evicted from parliament
The whole political system in nz is a joke..time for a referendum on this bull 💩!!.♥️🇳🇿
Where is the Governor general in all this? Supposed to ensure NZ enforces its constitution.
we the people have the power to make the Governor General sort it out. If sufficient number of us communicate to the Governor General that we have no confidence in the Government and instruct the Governor General to issue writs for a fresh election.
The Governor General is a hand picked token lapdog 🐕
This is what happens when unqualified and underhand tactic are used.Seems very common with this Government and it is shameful.
Open and honest - remember?
Kick them out, they need to follow protocol.
Give am he'll winston
How do we make these people accountable? They are running roughshod over our political system. It is not encouraging faith in the democratic process.
This what happens when you pick people based on their race or gender
True ... its made damn sure ... a brown skinned PM never gets there ...
Pakeha done that since their arrival, wake up idiot. 😂
Speaking of proportionality; feral Maori lesbians are certainly over represented in this parliament and they're not exactly enhancing it.
We need to ACT now labor nats Maori greens out Seymore in
Yes! Nat ACT NZF in.
My recommendation is that none of the parties currently in Parliament are in any way trustworthy, they all have to go. They are all cut from the same cloth and glossed over with marginally different veneers. My vote will be going to the best party option not currently in Parliament.
@@ianh9091 Oh here we go... Another DNZ voter. Similar to TOP. Wasted vote. ^This is why the right block might lose this election. A 'principled' vote translation: a wasted grandstand. Says it all...
@@ianh9091 You will waste your vote
Hell no!!! 😂
The rats are leaving the sinking ship.
Nah ship still has a captain and referring to maori as rats is typical ballheaded behavior but we seen it all before its nothing new.. that's FK head new zealand in a nutshell but they still can't bet us hahaha smarter bigger faster and stronger that's Kerry's BETA boy problem.. were happy to stay ALPHA.. Happy waitangi day!!!
Maori politicians have a really strong sense of entitlement because of their race...
So right nz will be like south Africa in 10 years time labor politicians have been told they are special people a lot of them are still getting food parcels like they did in covid education health special people
England setting up the Waitangi legal document set this in motion. Get it right.
When your old and go to hospital or hospice, pray u get cultural health care assistants, nurses and Dr's.
Caucasian staff moan all day in front of the patients and rough. Like your moaning now.
Cultured staff never, that I witnessed. Cultured more likely to take u home and care for u. It was heart breaking to witness patients abandoned or family don't want to take them home.
Count your Blessings I say.
@@fun---- I count my blessings i got the hell out of NZ! 😂
Democracy in this country is a Aristolochia Gigantea!!!!!
Yes clearly not allowing MPs to speak out against their party is more democratic
The “waka-jumping” clause is not being invoked because it suits them - Chippy can now distance himself from the more radical members and continue the charade of being old school Labour. At the same time, he knows that his is the only party that the Maori Party would join in coalition. Win/win for Labour, Lose/lose for the rest of us. True enough democracy is under attack, but this matters not a jot to the Left, as they consider their cause so righteous.
Well said.
Again well said
Go on ya foreigner, only you immigrant pakeha are crying about it lol. 😂
Very, very good reason for not voting labour. Chris Hipkins is just playing games with us, hoping his nice boy next door look will make us forget how much labour is in the pocket of Nanaia Mahuta and her resource grabbing cousins and friends.
@@jasperhorace7147 the alternatives aren’t looking particularly bright either.
Another case of a Maori MP doing what ever they like, just the norm these days, they will continue to do so, whose going to stop them
Get rid of MMP (More M@ori Politicians)
Tinpot shonky country .
It's a Kumara Republic
So Shaun who can call this lot to be accountable, it seems as if these MPs can do what they like, as we know that is not democracy, the sooner that this bs is called out and action taken it will continue to make a joke of everything, we are getting more like some African despot nation by the day
I agree totally with Winston, maybe it's time to change my vote!!!
Snouts firmly in the political trough
Politicians are voted in and swear in to represent there constituents they agree to uphold the rules of parliament , these are two rogue members acting not out of selflessness to serve the community but rather selfishness.
I don't think they are suited to politics & will most likely fade away to political obscurity.
Democracy is a rare flower, well put Winston
Wonder how she became a minister in the first place😂
There's no son shining on this self righteous mob.
They're blindly sailing their Waka...without seeing the looming 'precipice'!!
Boot them out for good.
Rules are rules.
They should have been booted out after their first stunts.
The 'Waka Jumping' is unfair to the people who voted them in. They should have both Resigned from their Parties and waited for the next Election to join the Maori Party.
If electorates vote for parties and not candidates then what's the point of even printing the candidate's name on the voting paper?
Politicians are NOT controled by laws like the rest of society , but by suggestions that they can ignore at their convenience. Democracy is not able to be run on the cheap ,principles should be held at all cost and not flippantly toss aside with a " oh we're having a election soon let just wait till then ". The so called waka jumping bill should be absolute and not a choice of convenience to this or that party because they're worry when it's their turn to rule it might just happy to them .
Absolutely!
The Governor General is woke too, wont do alot of good!! The whole of the beehive need to go....
She’s one of them. Can’t be upsetting the whanau!
They need sacking they shouldn’t be getting paid any money. They don’t earn it . Sorry but they got to be kicked out.
The recent waka jumping may not be informing us of who are the real supporters of democracy but it sure indicates who have blatant disregard! Is there a nexus between attitude to this round of waka jumping and promotion of separatism (co-gov etc)? They have the look of being outward manifestations of inwardly held anti-democratic ideologies with a huge dose of elitist arrogance.
I personally cannot help but wonder if these two Waka Jumping M.P's one of whom is/was a List MP, who did get enough electorate votes to EARN the seat she held, and has willingly given up, have been able to behave in the appalling, undemocratic way they have, and continue to behave, because they are Maori, and the Speaker of the House, who I believe is also Maori, is scared of the inevitable fall out, along with accusations of Racism, which would undoubtedly occur should he deal with these two women correctly? This current Labour Government has follishly allowed the Maori Party of New Zealand, who represent, at most, twenty percent of the entire population of this once democratic nation, to both have to much say within Cabinet, and dictate what this Government does while in power? Whoa Betide the peace and tranquility of this country should the Maori Party, especially with the current crop of people at the head, become "Kingmakers" at the end of the october general election?
No integrity. So true Sir Winston.
Anarchy is on it’s way! Globally✊✊✊✊
Yes it’s unfortunate, but what a wicket….the laws holds no one accountable, can’t blame them for taking advantage of our stupid system.
Shows you these Moaris are only there for the * wages* wouldn't be employed anywhere else
What kind of half-pie democracy is this???
I was walking by the Beehive yesterday and thought it has lost its Beehive feel. Now seems to resemble an up-turned rubbish bin.
Same old story, Throw her out .I really think I won't vote again.
Winston, the ONLY true New Zealander VOTE NZ First as your "party" vote
Hahaha 😂😅😊... That's funny lol.
Yeah nah 😂😂
The Green list woman is out, she should be replaced with another Green pol.. Whaitiri has a personal mandate from the voters of her electorate and she may or may not think it ethical to resign and reaffirm that mandate, but she does have a personal mandate until the next election.
When is Winston going to finish pulling documents out of his wine box? Winston didnt resign he got told to leave for assaulting John Banks on camera we all saw it. Never charged attacks fishermen off the coast of where he lives the sand spit he got pad to claim back for Maori and kept for himself and you go to him to talk about honesty and decency in bolitics your on the top of your game all right.
.Removing boundaries in Law to keep Children safe from Adults should be the Number 1 Priority. More than ever now Labour Removed the Children's Commission...
Gonna be a interesting election.the maori party maY get more votes but they are votes which will be from labour.
Pitcairn Island was first to give women the vote, but because it's a British overseas Colony, not a country, it does not get counted.
Isle of Man was first, also not counted
I disagree with a full Maori party parliament which there will never be, Maori politicans are far too divided within parliament. What I do agree is that Winster Peters should be the next Maori Prime Minister. Lets face it Te Pati Maori party will just be another party with more Maori politicans, who reality are busy arguing in parliament rather than looking within to better our people, so they are getting paid lots of money and not really doing a dame thing. What has these Maori done for Maori except Winston who created a Green card for our elderly in general and they received free public transport etc. I no of Donna Awatere who corrupted the pepe funds.
I don't recall Winston being so strong on "electoral integrity" when he won the Northland by-election in 2015. On today's argument, National should have got another list MP to preserve proportionality. This bill was only ever demanded by NZ First to allow Winston to keep his MP's in line as he could threaten to remove them.
Wait until the election...you watch maori will get extra voting rights i been saying it for ages you watch this space.
Do the Greens get another List MP?
Good to see two "strong Women" deciding which rules they feel like following - and feeling free to swan off and do whatever they like - when they feel that circumstances don't suit them currently.
Nice to know that everyones feelings are the standard we are moving towards upholding as sacrosanct.
Nothing is more important than feelings...
Women leading the way in our country - again.
/S
Its all WINSTONES fault .... he enabled LABOUR and ever since we have been living with that monumental ERROR !!!!
That seems to have become an unfair narrative I think,he got shafted like all the rest of us.
Bs interview 😂
Mean and a Bully what a great fit for National. 😊
To many waka jumping maories spoil the broth
Her mandate is her brown skin...enuff said!!
Maori need to jump the white ship jump on the waka
Pakeha have a cheek to cry about it, pakeha have done way worse things in this country. Like WTF. Dam immigrants.
That's a pretty brain dead comment. By "Dam immigrants", are you saying "Pakeha" are not citizens or don't belong in NZ?
Get a grip pal you have no idea obviously