Thanks for the video tutorial.... funny old world because you sold me the claytonrite seal and tool today and now I'm watching a random RUclips video and here you are thanks again from Jason
This is the best vid on YT for this sort of thing. Simple and straight to the point. But let me tell you, it's a heluva job. Don't even try it without the tools. If You're using claytonrite, best you buy their tool, and if You're using stiffer rubber, around tighter corners, I found that flatter z shaped tool works best. Without a seacond pair of hands it's almost impossible if you don't have pre bent rubber. Friendly advice too, ditch the soapy water, and use silicone spray, and don't save on it. It will do you good.
Great Video, covers all you need to know, they ship same day. Top tip, tie a bit of string to the tool and to yourself if the boat is in the water, it means that you don't have buy a second one when drop the first one in the drink!!
Snoring Rhino And if he would of pulled the lock strip instead of struggling to push it it would of got down a lot of easier lol. But I like the geezeer nice guy. We all learn till we die it's just a lesion fir him as well as I learned it years ago. Have a good day
I must assume the water sound effects in the background is to soothe the soul whilst we attempt a bloody hard job for even the expert was struggling. But many thanks as I have two windows to replace on my diddly boat and I will surely order them up from yourselves. Well done.
These rubber sealers are giving me a nervous breakdown...I am trying to fit them in my boat windows. You have to cut them at EXACTLY the right size, about 15 mm extra. Than you put in the window and then you often come up short on top. When this happens you can throw away the rubber seal and start over. Trying to use too much rubber results in the window being pushed outward, now you have to cut of a little piece of rubber seal to make it fit. But hey...don't cut off too much otherwise ( you ve guessed it) you can throw away the rubber seal and start over. I am down to my 3rd try now. What makes it difficult is my boat windows are not nice and square sized like these but have an odd shape. This job is maddening and insanely difficult...
Good to see a real life fitter and not some slick salesman showing the bits that went easily without a bit of a struggle. Does the filler strip go on the inside or outside, just thinking of security if its on the outside? Just one point however, I would have used a small paint brush for the lubricant with a bit more care and evenly spread.
I have not tried your exact product, but it looks just like other EPDM rubber products on the market so I suspect it would have the same problem I experienced with two other brands of window mounting gaskets. What I am referring to is that the gasket you show is very flexible and easy to bend ... what I received was quite the opposite, stiff and unyielding. Even boiling them for an hour did not materially change it's flexibility, particularly in the narrow gaps where the glass and/or body panel was to fit. I found it impossible to join glass/body and gasket together around even a very gentle curve.
Seals + Direct window rubbers are manufactured from a good grade of EPDM so are flexible to fit. There are a lot of cheap alternatives on the market that use cheap grades of rubber with lots of fillers in them so are difficult to fit and have a short lifespan, so I expect that the ones you have tried are of this quality.It is always advisable to pay for a good quality product which makes fitting easier and lasts a long time.
Another way to fit these is to fit the rubber to window first, then insert string all the way around the inside of the panel section of the rubber, offer up to panel and insert as much as possible then pull string from inside the van or boat etc and have someone pushing on the outside. As the string is being pulled it pulls the rubber over the panel. Still not an easy task, and a two man job this way but did work for me with far less fruity language.
Do it while everything is hot. Wait for a hot day and leave everything outside so it softens. When you put the window In try to not do it one corner at a time rather do one side aka 2 corners and push it in evenly so it's not got all the bend on one corner. Hest is the key so is keeping it clean and use loads of washing up liquid I put fairy platinum on them neat from the bottle then squirt hot tap water into the seal from a spray bottle so it barely washes the green colour out. They pop in easy if everything is warm and lubed out it'd face. I twist the strips too before doing it to make them more supple. It's not that hard tbh
Thank you so much for that closeup, I finally understand how it works! Is it possible to fit the locking strip without a dedicated tool? And is it possible to buy the wrong one?
is there a way to know what size seal to buy before taking the window out?? Rather take it out and then either leave it out while you wait for delivery of the new seal or having to put the old seal back in again
You could try finding the joint in the rubber and then cut a thin slither out of it from the inside and outside and pull through. You can then measure the widths of the gaps for the glass and panel. Then just put a squirt of silicone sealant in the hole to stop water getting in until the new rubber arrives.
hello , if you got a whole in the wall of a horsetrailer , how much smaller does the actual window needs to be ? is there a guide for that ? 1cm all around ? using a locking gasket with seal .
The instructions on the Seals + Direct website say to apply a small bead of silicone sealant into the panel groove before fitting it around the aperture and also similarly to do the same in the window groove before fitting the window. No mention of that in this video????
@@hooked-gsy fair point, that's probably why my windows have rotted out. Btw it was a genuine question not having a go, reading it back it could be taken the wrong way. Cheers.
Cylow75 no probs 😄👍🏻, Join at the top and when you put the wedge rubber in join at the bottom ,I’ve done my Orkney strikeliner 16 and now my fastliner 19.👍🏻
Phil Howard Phil are there any sealing issues at the corners with doing this? Is there a sealant/gasket cement you can use to bond the corners together or is this necessary?
OK so what was the end bit all about when you fitted the window. You basically went so hard you scratched the pane and the seal and at 6:07sec you are lucky that you never slipped the fitting tool and stabbed your own wrist. No joke it's easier to fit if you go slow.
Because if its at the bottom gravity causes the pane to squash It and with vibrations it cuts the seal where the join is. If the join is on the top then the uninterrupted band at the bottom has no weak spots for gravity and vibrations to cause failure. Its a gravity thing. Cheers
He makes it look easy, DON’T BE FOOLED, it is absolutely obscenely difficult
Thanks for the video tutorial.... funny old world because you sold me the claytonrite seal and tool today and now I'm watching a random RUclips video and here you are thanks again from Jason
This is the best vid on YT for this sort of thing. Simple and straight to the point. But let me tell you, it's a heluva job. Don't even try it without the tools. If You're using claytonrite, best you buy their tool, and if You're using stiffer rubber, around tighter corners, I found that flatter z shaped tool works best. Without a seacond pair of hands it's almost impossible if you don't have pre bent rubber. Friendly advice too, ditch the soapy water, and use silicone spray, and don't save on it. It will do you good.
Great Video, covers all you need to know, they ship same day. Top tip, tie a bit of string to the tool and to yourself if the boat is in the water, it means that you don't have buy a second one when drop the first one in the drink!!
Snoring Rhino And if he would of pulled the lock strip instead of struggling to push it it would of got down a lot of easier lol. But I like the geezeer nice guy. We all learn till we die it's just a lesion fir him as well as I learned it years ago. Have a good day
I must assume the water sound effects in the background is to soothe the soul whilst we attempt a bloody hard job for even the expert was struggling. But many thanks as I have two windows to replace on my diddly boat and I will surely order them up from yourselves. Well done.
These rubber sealers are giving me a nervous breakdown...I am trying to fit them in my boat windows. You have to cut them at EXACTLY the right size, about 15 mm extra. Than you put in the window and then you often come up short on top. When this happens you can throw away the rubber seal and start over. Trying to use too much rubber results in the window being pushed outward, now you have to cut of a little piece of rubber seal to make it fit. But hey...don't cut off too much otherwise ( you ve guessed it) you can throw away the rubber seal and start over. I am down to my 3rd try now. What makes it difficult is my boat windows are not nice and square sized like these but have an odd shape. This job is maddening and insanely difficult...
Good to see a real life fitter and not some slick salesman showing the bits that went easily without a bit of a struggle. Does the filler strip go on the inside or outside, just thinking of security if its on the outside?
Just one point however, I would have used a small paint brush for the lubricant with a bit more care and evenly spread.
The filler strip always goes on the outside as it puts pressure on the window rubber to make it watertight.
I have not tried your exact product, but it looks just like other EPDM rubber products on the market so I suspect it would have the same problem I experienced with two other brands of window mounting gaskets. What I am referring to is that the gasket you show is very flexible and easy to bend ... what I received was quite the opposite, stiff and unyielding. Even boiling them for an hour did not materially change it's flexibility, particularly in the narrow gaps where the glass and/or body panel was to fit. I found it impossible to join glass/body and gasket together around even a very gentle curve.
Seals + Direct window rubbers are manufactured from a good grade of EPDM so are flexible to fit. There are a lot of cheap alternatives on the market that use cheap grades of rubber with lots of fillers in them so are difficult to fit and have a short lifespan, so I expect that the ones you have tried are of this quality.It is always advisable to pay for a good quality product which makes fitting easier and lasts a long time.
Another way to fit these is to fit the rubber to window first, then insert string all the way around the inside of the panel section of the rubber, offer up to panel and insert as much as possible then pull string from inside the van or boat etc and have someone pushing on the outside. As the string is being pulled it pulls the rubber over the panel. Still not an easy task, and a two man job this way but did work for me with far less fruity language.
Thanks.
Actually really helpful video.
great video ,thanks
Great vid, but needs to learn how to put a straightedge level LOL ;-)
Bit harder than he makes it look but a great product once you get it in haha
So lubrication is the key!
But how do you get one corner of the perspex in without the other corner popping back out?
That's what she said
Do it while everything is hot. Wait for a hot day and leave everything outside so it softens. When you put the window In try to not do it one corner at a time rather do one side aka 2 corners and push it in evenly so it's not got all the bend on one corner. Hest is the key so is keeping it clean and use loads of washing up liquid I put fairy platinum on them neat from the bottle then squirt hot tap water into the seal from a spray bottle so it barely washes the green colour out. They pop in easy if everything is warm and lubed out it'd face. I twist the strips too before doing it to make them more supple. It's not that hard tbh
Thank you so much for that closeup, I finally understand how it works! Is it possible to fit the locking strip without a dedicated tool? And is it possible to buy the wrong one?
You really need the tool to fit the filler strip. I have known people use a screwdriver but there is a big risk of damaging the window rubber.
The tool used to put filling strip in is a must 😂
Also you just slide the bottom in like the rubber's not there. How do you get the bottom edge in in one go without bending the sides in?
Should be using a silicone sealant too as ingress water will get in if not
is there a way to know what size seal to buy before taking the window out?? Rather take it out and then either leave it out while you wait for delivery of the new seal or having to put the old seal back in again
You could try finding the joint in the rubber and then cut a thin slither out of it from the inside and outside and pull through. You can then measure the widths of the gaps for the glass and panel. Then just put a squirt of silicone sealant in the hole to stop water getting in until the new rubber arrives.
Late question. Same process with glass?
hello ,
if you got a whole in the wall of a horsetrailer , how much smaller does the actual window needs to be ?
is there a guide for that ? 1cm all around ? using a locking gasket with seal .
someone left the tap running?
The instructions on the Seals + Direct website say to apply a small bead of silicone sealant into the panel groove before fitting it around the aperture and also similarly to do the same in the window groove before fitting the window. No mention of that in this video????
I thought the exact same thing. Wanting to do this shortly . Going to have to ring them it's very confusing info
Silicone is not required. Good luck if you use it as is messy. I’ve done the job with and without silicon.
Great video but why do you start at the top so it joins there?
Joins at the top , if the join was at the bottom the water would run down and leak inside 🤷🏻♂️
@@hooked-gsy fair point, that's probably why my windows have rotted out. Btw it was a genuine question not having a go, reading it back it could be taken the wrong way. Cheers.
Cylow75 no probs 😄👍🏻, Join at the top and when you put the wedge rubber in join at the bottom ,I’ve done my Orkney strikeliner 16 and now my fastliner 19.👍🏻
What about rectangle windows ??? Do you do rubbers for them as well as my boat has rectangle wondows
You can cut and mitre the rubber to make square frames.
Phil Howard Phil are there any sealing issues at the corners with doing this? Is there a sealant/gasket cement you can use to bond the corners together or is this necessary?
@@AM-ze6ri It is advisable to use a Polyurethane sealant/adhesive such as S136 on the corners to bond them together and to prevent water leaks
OK so what was the end bit all about when you fitted the window. You basically went so hard you scratched the pane and the seal and at 6:07sec you are lucky that you never slipped the fitting tool and stabbed your own wrist. No joke it's easier to fit if you go slow.
can you supply the rubber for a panel van . i want to put a plastic window in like this video shows.
i need the rubber for that. and the plastic glass
Yes we can. Please see www.sealsdirect.co.uk/seals-products.asp?intDepartmentId=4for range of sizes available
If i have a smaller radius in the corners, can i make small relief cuts on the sides of the rubber where it wants to wrinkle?
Yes you can do that. I would recommend sealing the nicks together with a Polyurethane sealant to ensure that water does not penetrate through.
What's the name of the tool at 8:20 ? I need to know my fazer needs immediataly use something like that
Hello. This is our fitting tool (CST4335). You can buy it on our website at www.sealsdirect.co.uk
Done this today what a sore head
Why the joint at the top? Makes no sense? Illuminate me pls
Historically this is the way that they are always fitted. As long as the joint is tightly fitted together it does not really matter where it goes.
Because if its at the bottom gravity causes the pane to squash It and with vibrations it cuts the seal where the join is. If the join is on the top then the uninterrupted band at the bottom has no weak spots for gravity and vibrations to cause failure. Its a gravity thing. Cheers
Fairy liquid has salt in it so I wouldn’t advise using it on your rubber seals.
Where was this filmed? In a public urinal?
There’s always one 🥱