Very similar to a dunebuggy/race car. This is a winning design for a reason. He even has similar components. You can see upper and lower control arms and a spindle attaching them. The rod going horizontal to the frame is similar but not quite the same as a torsion beam which was popular on old trucks and old vw beetles. Basically as the control arms articulate the torsion beam, which is spring steel twists and returns to its original position. Torsion beams were phased out and replaced by vertical mounted coil springs or coilovers. But this design works the best because of its double wishbone design (independent front and rear suspension) I would say the sliding shock is actually like a cantilever suspension as well. They do have horizontally mounted shocks on trophy trucks but it’s kind of overly complex design, and dune buggies, trucks, and race cars all have diagonally mounted coilovers on the a arms now.
@@nathanielscholtens2812not wishbone, that's correct but that refers to the arms not the suspension. In this case it's double wishbone CANTILIVER suspension
I feel like you would get better results if you used a larger tredmil for more varied terrain. Also trying to combine suspension methods. The idea being that you impact a soft suspension and then a hard suspension so the whole ride is smoother than with just a soft suspension or a hard suspension.
If I were to get a solution to delivering more, I would just load the stuff and cover it with something so there's no way for them to fall in the first place, but then it wouldn't be a suspension solution testing isn't it hahahahah
I feel like it depended a lot on the stiffness on the suspension. I wish you somehow compensated it so the stiffness would be equal. I think the dampening effect of the rubber tires for example would become more beneficial if you put more weight so they could compress more
Came to say this. The more compliant suspension out performed the super stiff over-sprung suspension. I'd have loved to see the magnets in an independent setup. Also the coilovers should have been brought further inboard on the arms to increase progression.
There is problems with your tests, for example: you're using different length and width wheel-bases for same tredmil, also wheel count. This is causing unfair scores, so efficiency and durability tests are for satisfaction. There are different variables such as: length, width of wheel-base, wheel count, wheel weight, weight of unsuspended part, range of suspension, stiffness of suspension, height of center of mass. Very small amount of those is taken to account. Like, models with long wheelbases is OP for a jump cause they rotate less while riding off a ramp. Also you're tugging from the front instead of from the axis, that is going through center of mass, that causes bounce nomad to flip over! There is so much room for -improvement- part 2!
If you're using spring suspension you always need a dampener because spring will oscillate which causes the additional shake in small bumps test, which in turn makes the carrier less stable. With sort of free floating rubber tires you needed a guide rod in big bump test so that it wouldn't fall over due to tires being carried by inertia tip over the whole cart. And also it doesn't help that the suspension isn't connected to wheels directly. Magnet suspension would work much better if it was stiffer, because it really was too soft. More magnets or stronger ones would make it much more reliable, and also just like in spring suspension it should've had a dampener, which would be easy to make just by surrounding the magnets with aluminium or copper so that they would cancel the oscillations quite quickly. I think the "summit seeker" type worked the best because it was stiff with two rubber rings and it didn't need dampeners because rubber didn't oscillate that much as in "crawl voyager" (which needed a dampener). and as for chain one, well... It's a funnier character than we ever had.
A suspended cart design can be great to keep a load level, but not like this. A big advantage of magnets though in this case is they're really small so can be used in combination with other methods. For example using soft shock absorbers, and adding magnets to make the suspension progressively stiffer.
It would be interesting to see a test of different suspension geometries, like swing axle, double wishbone, mcpherson strut, swing arm etc. And see if you could make anti roll bars and test the difference that makes as well
Super fun! These were variations on suspension geometry as noted earlier but none had dampers. They all had springs. A real damper must allow the spring to compress near its normal rate but then rebound at a much slower rate. This is usually done with one way valves of different sizes in gas or hydraulic shock absorbers. Challenge: Make a Lego shock! I have no idea how!
@@andrewkarsten5268 Sorry I was talking rate of return not spring rate. But the amplitude does not change just the frequency. If it reduced the amplitude the wheel would not return to its original position. Every time a bump was hit the car would get lower and lower...
The Summit Seeker really has a very creative suspension system that works really well, I could definitely see this being used in cars. P.S. You do a great job with your vids, keep up the good work!
I have seen many of your videos, but have you done already torsion bar? there were different types done over history specially on military vehicles, but I have not seen them done at a "lego scale". What about a version of the summit seeker ones but with magnets instead of springs. Almost any version that uses springs could be replaced by magnets, or double magnet suspension to make it smoother. Anyway, great job as usual.
I like the summit seeker! That design is unique it seems because of the combination of vertical and horizontal which minimizes the vertical bounce. Wow- mind blown
This was pretty cool. The rubber cruiser was almost like solid axle leaf springs, but with rubber rather than spring steel. The summit seeker was kind of a mix between double wishbone and pushrod. And the spring rover was almost like semi trailing arm.
What a fun video! Great work. Would be cool to see a version where wheelbase, wheel type, and the location of the center of gravity of the load are the same across models.
The crawl voyager and the summit seeker I feel were the most stable designs here, as both barely lost their loads during the treadmill test. Really good concepts!
I’ve always loved the aesthetics of these videos, the choice of background, lighting, even the part colors, you obviously put a lot of effort and attention to all these. Lovely blend of pleasant footage, informative builds and a perfect amount of humor, all very lovely. Keep it up!
Really enjoyed! i do think through that the stiffness of the chassis, number of wheels, wheelbase and the hight of the load bed, had a large role in some of the models loosing its peaces. Would also bee cool to see an air suspention version!
I absolutely love watching these videos! This one was super fun especially! Really interesting to see how each of these builds manages the challenge at hands.
Very impressive, I think that the Crawler Voyager is very promising. However I would've liked to see a suspension geometry based on the Citroen 2 CV or if possible the most advanced hydropneumatic from later models
Thanks for breaking down the suspension types and their timestamps! That’s a really helpful overview for anyone following along. If you have any more insights or suggestions, feel free to share!
Dr. Engine, I found great pleasure in this video. Thank you for maintaining a consistent posting schedule. As a result, I have become a new subscriber. Does anyone else share my sentiment?
Polarity Pathfinder was innovative, but Rubber Cruiser the simplest solution. Try front-rear interconnected (like Citroen 2CV or Rover Metro) to make pitch frequency much lower. Then try some of the interconnected methods used on NASA Pathfinder and Spirit/Opportunity rovers.
Enthusiastically, I really like the Crawl Voyager, Rubber Cruiser and Bounce Nomad because they carry heavy things. They’re also good at carrying more passengers than the others.
4:40 FINALLY LEAF SPRING SOLID AXLE SUSPENSION! Wanted to have one for sooo long… Edit: i remade the rubber cruiser’s axles, made steering, but I’m missing 30 rubber connectors…
these videos are the epitome of an architects dream, the fact that most of the vehicles are unstable merely adds onto that fact, the treadmill is extremely wasteful of pieces as you could have used 2 sprockets exclusively and had a liftarm link them together, as a person who has a scarce amount of lego pieces and enjoys making rc cars, i am extremely disappointed as people who are more fortunate and have a wider array of parts for building mechanisms like this are not only terrible at making those mechanisms but also just cannot take a quick break on how to build certain things.
I really like the leaf spring design with the rubber technic bushings, but my favourite is definitely the pushrod setup at the end. I haven't really seen that type made from Technic.
I swear the one with the chains when I was about to see it, go over the BIG Bump I was like “oh shit here we go”. This is not gonna go well, and I was surprised it actually went over the big bump not too bad. Amazing work buddy I subscribed instantly!
Great video! This really highlights the importance of pretty obscure concepts, ESPECIALLY unsprung weight. Wheel configuration (base, size and #), CoG, moment arms, and the interplay between weight distribution and resistance of the dampening mechanism are also super clearly illustrated here. I dont think the goal was to be 100% scientific, rather to show off of the capabilities of different formats in their respective context.
The summit seaker has by far the best results, but after some use, the rubber bands might have an easy time snapping. For reliability and maximum preformance i would go with the rubber cruiser. Further testing and reliability enhancements to the seaker might make it the obvious choice.
There's a lot going on here! I noticed the...cab mounted suspensions, Where the wheels themselves were on a separate platform behaved worse than a solid axle. I think if you combined independent 6 or 8 wheel suspension with a dampened version of the bounce rover you wouldn't lose much at all. On the chain suspension If the chains were light duty elastic and secured from the top and bottom of the mounting posts to the corners of the cab like an x split in two it might retain more, could try on the sides too instead of just the front. No matter which design retains more product it will either be the most complicated to assemble and work on or expensive to build and maintain which is why your Amazon boxes show up dented and you can hear the delivery truck hit bumps from 8 blocks away.
First time I've subscribed off a single video just so I can catch the follow up. You'd better make that follow up! W better suspensions (soft+hard) and more similar vehicles
In almost all of these challenges, a much softer spring rate would have provided a better result. Perhaps a test combining several suspension types together? I also feel that a similar wheel base would lead to better results
Very good and interesting. It will be more interesting if you compare all suspentions with no suspension, wheel just hard fixed to axis. Sorry for my english.
No worries about your English-it's clear! Comparing different suspensions against a rigid setup sounds like a fascinating idea. I’ll definitely consider adding that to future tests. Thanks for the suggestion!
Men, this is so cool. Remindes me of time when I was busting my braing on how to create suspension unit that could also steer. I got it and then my older brother dissasemled it when I went to summer camp... Childhood memories :D
the difference between shock absorbers and general suspension is that shock absorbers run on "compressed gas" that most of the time is in a piston chamber, general suspensions just have a sort of soft spring so on rough terrain it will be decently smooth
shock absorbers aren't springs and don't have "stiffness" in the same regard as suspension springs (spring frequency). shock absorbers absorb energy via oil and/or gas inside of a piston. I suggest taking the time to research things that you are interested in.
I believe it is not fair comparison, as you are changjng the full joints mechanism and build when you change the suspension types, my recommendation to use and joint construction for all which will allow you totake accurate performance for each. My point is each suspension type will have the same joint support setup with that you can ignore any other factors which will affect the suspension performance
I like how the chain shaker performed better after it destroyed itself
Yeaa
it was so funny
but also bcs he build it with the center point to high up
basic idea behind sports cars
It has just proven how faulty (or even nonexisting) the test methodology was.
I don't know for how much realism you want to go, but it would be more accurate and scientific if all the wheelbases would be the same.
Yea I felt the summit seeker had a bit of an advantage as a result if a larger wheelbase
+ center of gravity! Some were really tall
The loads also need to have the same moment arm from the wheels! ... not that I'm here for realism ofc 😂
Same amount of wheels as well.
Also ground clearance on some gave advantage on some tests.
That rubber cruiser is like a leaf spring setup, that’s cool.
and it also has some degree of damping, just like a leaf spring! :D
Definitely my favorite one
mine too!@@yackson4804
My favorite one aswell!
@DrEngine And it makes me wonder if it would perform worse or better if the wheels were not connected with axle
I was really impressed by the summit seeker. It took a vertical vector and absorbed the energy by converting it horizontally
Same way a lot of modern race car suspension is designed.
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@@mattdecker4695 very cool
Very similar to a dunebuggy/race car. This is a winning design for a reason. He even has similar components. You can see upper and lower control arms and a spindle attaching them. The rod going horizontal to the frame is similar but not quite the same as a torsion beam which was popular on old trucks and old vw beetles. Basically as the control arms articulate the torsion beam, which is spring steel twists and returns to its original position. Torsion beams were phased out and replaced by vertical mounted coil springs or coilovers. But this design works the best because of its double wishbone design (independent front and rear suspension) I would say the sliding shock is actually like a cantilever suspension as well. They do have horizontally mounted shocks on trophy trucks but it’s kind of overly complex design, and dune buggies, trucks, and race cars all have diagonally mounted coilovers on the a arms now.
In a lego recreation of the rb16 Red Bull car I made that form of suspension! The shocks run parallel to the chassis of the car.
My mind is blown. My Lego cars are forever changed. I need to rebuild all of them with these amazing suspensions.
just don't use the chains
@@-RaIsei-😭
And deffinely use te wheels
Good
0:35 swing axle suspension
1:31 swing axle suspension
4:31 solid axle suspension
6:43 trailing arm suspension
9:16 double wishbone suspension or pushrod suspension
last one is double wishbone sprung with pullrods
the last one is cantilever suspension i think
@@nathanielscholtens2812not wishbone, that's correct but that refers to the arms not the suspension. In this case it's double wishbone CANTILIVER suspension
@@nathanielscholtens2812 rohan was correct, it is a pushrod suspension.
Thanks for the pin @DrEngine
Someone’s ripping off your vids on tik tok btw
who
He's been termed
yeah who
I feel like you would get better results if you used a larger tredmil for more varied terrain. Also trying to combine suspension methods. The idea being that you impact a soft suspension and then a hard suspension so the whole ride is smoother than with just a soft suspension or a hard suspension.
Nice suggestions! Thank you for watching 😊
If I were to get a solution to delivering more, I would just load the stuff and cover it with something so there's no way for them to fall in the first place, but then it wouldn't be a suspension solution testing isn't it hahahahah
No need for recommendations. Nothing in this video makes it a good suspension test. He achieved nothing here.
The crawl voyager fared well in all tests. Looks compliant and steady .
The only one that did a little bit bad was the drop test, the rest was really steady
It was the number of wheels, more stability with a lot of give per wheel.
@@iftekimas9260 probably because it had really soft suspension it bottomed out too quickly
I feel like it depended a lot on the stiffness on the suspension. I wish you somehow compensated it so the stiffness would be equal. I think the dampening effect of the rubber tires for example would become more beneficial if you put more weight so they could compress more
Came to say this. The more compliant suspension out performed the super stiff over-sprung suspension. I'd have loved to see the magnets in an independent setup. Also the coilovers should have been brought further inboard on the arms to increase progression.
Without trying to match the stiffness to the travel and vehicle weight, these tests provide no useful data😢
@@coreyduma325 It's useful data if you look at the entire vehicle and not just the suspension.
There is problems with your tests, for example: you're using different length and width wheel-bases for same tredmil, also wheel count. This is causing unfair scores, so efficiency and durability tests are for satisfaction.
There are different variables such as: length, width of wheel-base, wheel count, wheel weight, weight of unsuspended part, range of suspension, stiffness of suspension, height of center of mass. Very small amount of those is taken to account. Like, models with long wheelbases is OP for a jump cause they rotate less while riding off a ramp. Also you're tugging from the front instead of from the axis, that is going through center of mass, that causes bounce nomad to flip over!
There is so much room for -improvement- part 2!
also looks like the pulling arm doesnt allow for swaying
The Big Bump test was certainly more of a test of wheelbase length than suspension
If you're using spring suspension you always need a dampener because spring will oscillate which causes the additional shake in small bumps test, which in turn makes the carrier less stable. With sort of free floating rubber tires you needed a guide rod in big bump test so that it wouldn't fall over due to tires being carried by inertia tip over the whole cart. And also it doesn't help that the suspension isn't connected to wheels directly. Magnet suspension would work much better if it was stiffer, because it really was too soft. More magnets or stronger ones would make it much more reliable, and also just like in spring suspension it should've had a dampener, which would be easy to make just by surrounding the magnets with aluminium or copper so that they would cancel the oscillations quite quickly. I think the "summit seeker" type worked the best because it was stiff with two rubber rings and it didn't need dampeners because rubber didn't oscillate that much as in "crawl voyager" (which needed a dampener).
and as for chain one, well... It's a funnier character than we ever had.
Thank you for the suggestions!
A suspended cart design can be great to keep a load level, but not like this.
A big advantage of magnets though in this case is they're really small so can be used in combination with other methods. For example using soft shock absorbers, and adding magnets to make the suspension progressively stiffer.
The chain should connect to the top of the basket, not the bottom. That's a big part of why it tipped so much.
It would be interesting to see a test of different suspension geometries, like swing axle, double wishbone, mcpherson strut, swing arm etc. And see if you could make anti roll bars and test the difference that makes as well
Nice ideas 💡
楽しい動画でした。
それぞれのサスペンションの挙動は見ていて全く飽きませんね。
Super fun! These were variations on suspension geometry as noted earlier but none had dampers. They all had springs. A real damper must allow the spring to compress near its normal rate but then rebound at a much slower rate. This is usually done with one way valves of different sizes in gas or hydraulic shock absorbers. Challenge: Make a Lego shock! I have no idea how!
Dampers don’t change the rate, they reduce the amplitude of the rebound, but yeah.
@@andrewkarsten5268 Sorry I was talking rate of return not spring rate. But the amplitude does not change just the frequency. If it reduced the amplitude the wheel would not return to its original position. Every time a bump was hit the car would get lower and lower...
Frequency and rate of decay
Thanks for the credit! Cool testing setup, I would have expected my suspensions to do worse :)
Thanks for the ideas!
The Summit Seeker really has a very creative suspension system that works really well, I could definitely see this being used in cars. P.S. You do a great job with your vids, keep up the good work!
Thank you for watching ☺️
It's actually a very similar setup to what Formula 1 cars use.
it's similar to some mountain bike suspension designs
I have an RC car that uses it, works amazingly in any conditions
I think it's based off of a real thing, look up "double wishbone suspension"
Feel free to make any suggestions for Lego car suspension
I have seen many of your videos, but have you done already torsion bar? there were different types done over history specially on military vehicles, but I have not seen them done at a "lego scale". What about a version of the summit seeker ones but with magnets instead of springs. Almost any version that uses springs could be replaced by magnets, or double magnet suspension to make it smoother. Anyway, great job as usual.
You should try Pan Hard Rod suspension
The magnet one might need a magnet at the top of the strut for rebound i think. Could be worth a try? Im no expert tho
Try Air Suspension. Or combine it with springs for dampening
A classic double wishbone suspension
i have no words... this is just amazing
I like the summit seeker! That design is unique it seems because of the combination of vertical and horizontal which minimizes the vertical bounce. Wow- mind blown
so now im addicted to lego engineering videos.. Great.
This was pretty cool. The rubber cruiser was almost like solid axle leaf springs, but with rubber rather than spring steel. The summit seeker was kind of a mix between double wishbone and pushrod. And the spring rover was almost like semi trailing arm.
Loved the summit seeker, because you used pushrod suspension and it reminded me of Formula 1. This suspension is really impressive
Appreciate the F1 comparison. Pushrod suspension is tricky.
I'd love to see a video in which you try and optimize the perfect suspension in an evolution style progression. Great video ❤️
Great suggestion! Thank you for watching!
You and Brick Experiment Channel are my two favorite Lego Technic channels :D
Wow, thanks!
Hopefully one day my channel will have lovers like you
What a fun video! Great work.
Would be cool to see a version where wheelbase, wheel type, and the location of the center of gravity of the load are the same across models.
Cool idea!
Yea, that drastically changes the result even if the same suspensions are used. Great video but IMO he should have tried to keep it similar.
The crawl voyager and the summit seeker I feel were the most stable designs here, as both barely lost their loads during the treadmill test. Really good concepts!
I’ve always loved the aesthetics of these videos, the choice of background, lighting, even the part colors, you obviously put a lot of effort and attention to all these. Lovely blend of pleasant footage, informative builds and a perfect amount of humor, all very lovely. Keep it up!
Thank you. It really takes a lot of effort to create, but it's also a lot of fun to read comments like yours 😊
The beginning was satisfying 😌
Really enjoyed! i do think through that the stiffness of the chassis, number of wheels, wheelbase and the hight of the load bed, had a large role in some of the models loosing its peaces. Would also bee cool to see an air suspention version!
Defintely Summit Seaker. But Chain Shaker was also super cool. And bouncy...
tomorrow i have my exam and im watching 9 types of lego suspention
Same bro
Playing LEGO... still one of the best ways to spend your time🤩
I absolutely love watching these videos! This one was super fun especially! Really interesting to see how each of these builds manages the challenge at hands.
Glad you enjoyed!
Axle like a vehicle independent A-arms seemed to ride the best, just needs control arms and shocks to keep it smooth
I'm not sure what's more impressive, the suspension or the fact that the car didn't fall apart.
Whoa, I had no idea this piece was so versatile, that reactor you built was incredible! Great video
Amazing to see what different suspension setups can do. Awesome work yet again Dr. Engine!
Edit: Summit Seeker and Rubber Cruiser are the best!
Glad you like them!
@@DrEngineYour work is always awesome!
WHAT OH you're a genius
Very impressive, I think that the Crawler Voyager is very promising. However I would've liked to see a suspension geometry based on the Citroen 2 CV or if possible the most advanced hydropneumatic from later models
3:40 the best ever 😎👍
😋
This is just amazing. great video
Thanks for suspension ideas ❤
Can't wait to see these cars hit the market. I'm calling it now: Lego Grand Prix is about to get lit!
I love the spastic chaos on the high speed😂
0:16 - MacPherson Strut / Swing Arm
1:16 - Twin I-beam (but backwards)
4:12 - Leaf-Spring Solid Axle
5:21 / 6:30 - Trailing Arm
8:51 - Pushrod Double-Wishbone
Thanks for breaking down the suspension types and their timestamps! That’s a really helpful overview for anyone following along. If you have any more insights or suggestions, feel free to share!
This video illustrates the importance of a damper in a spring-damper system.
Dr. Engine, I found great pleasure in this video. Thank you for maintaining a consistent posting schedule. As a result, I have become a new subscriber. Does anyone else share my sentiment?
NIce man! That is really cool.
Thank you! Cheers!
Polarity Pathfinder was innovative, but Rubber Cruiser the simplest solution. Try front-rear interconnected (like Citroen 2CV or Rover Metro) to make pitch frequency much lower. Then try some of the interconnected methods used on NASA Pathfinder and Spirit/Opportunity rovers.
I thought the summit seeker might be converted to something like the 2CV suspension. Would love to see that in action.
I love the visuals. Looks so cool!
Enthusiastically, I really like the Crawl Voyager, Rubber Cruiser and Bounce Nomad because they carry heavy things. They’re also good at carrying more passengers than the others.
Great video! Looking forward to the next ones!
This is very impressive!
4:40 FINALLY LEAF SPRING SOLID AXLE SUSPENSION! Wanted to have one for sooo long…
Edit: i remade the rubber cruiser’s axles, made steering, but I’m missing 30 rubber connectors…
9:03 German car suspension be like
(Complex, expensive, and always broken but effective)
I love that rubber cruiser , since most Indian trucks have leaf springs this is very realistic
all suspension solutions are based on stiffness and the stiffness solution lacks elements that will dampen vibrations, i.e. a vibration damper
The chain shaker literally fell apart lol
That is why chain suspension isn't used on motorized vehicles.
F1 stylefor the win!
Should try triangulated solid axles though
Thank you for this masterpiece of Lego engineering and entertainment. You have made the internet a better place today
these videos are the epitome of an architects dream, the fact that most of the vehicles are unstable merely adds onto that fact, the treadmill is extremely wasteful of pieces as you could have used 2 sprockets exclusively and had a liftarm link them together, as a person who has a scarce amount of lego pieces and enjoys making rc cars, i am extremely disappointed as people who are more fortunate and have a wider array of parts for building mechanisms like this are not only terrible at making those mechanisms but also just cannot take a quick break on how to build certain things.
What an amazing piece of work you've done here! Very inventive and well thought out!
What an awesome build! Thank you for the walk through!
SUMMIT SEEKER SWEEP!!!
That front bar keeps it from catching air. Pretty cool but not quite there.
I really like the leaf spring design with the rubber technic bushings, but my favourite is definitely the pushrod setup at the end. I haven't really seen that type made from Technic.
My favorite is the magnet suspension system, in my opinion it was just ingenious
Nice video
I swear the one with the chains when I was about to see it, go over the BIG Bump I was like “oh shit here we go”. This is not gonna go well, and I was surprised it actually went over the big bump not too bad. Amazing work buddy I subscribed instantly!
The chain shaker took the word "suspension" a bit too seriously.
Great video! This really highlights the importance of pretty obscure concepts, ESPECIALLY unsprung weight. Wheel configuration (base, size and #), CoG, moment arms, and the interplay between weight distribution and resistance of the dampening mechanism are also super clearly illustrated here. I dont think the goal was to be 100% scientific, rather to show off of the capabilities of different formats in their respective context.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Summit Seeker easily won, no doubt about it. Give it a LEGO trophy made of suspension pieces! Also a video idea is Lego cars vs slope with oil.
Ingenious - I mean, the mechanisms are quite simple, but building a working machines like this just from LEGO, just wow.
Thank you for watching! Glad you like it!
The summit seaker has by far the best results, but after some use, the rubber bands might have an easy time snapping. For reliability and maximum preformance i would go with the rubber cruiser. Further testing and reliability enhancements to the seaker might make it the obvious choice.
I think the solid axle leaf spring design wins it here
bro the driver looks dedicated af
Before this vedio i thought spring leaf is vary primary system wow for spring leaf ❤❤
Rubber will typically results in a better ride due to its natural dampening effect, spring based cruisers had too much rebound wity no dampening.
Good lord. That chain sheker thing just straight up exacerbated the problem
There's a lot going on here! I noticed the...cab mounted suspensions, Where the wheels themselves were on a separate platform behaved worse than a solid axle. I think if you combined independent 6 or 8 wheel suspension with a dampened version of the bounce rover you wouldn't lose much at all. On the chain suspension If the chains were light duty elastic and secured from the top and bottom of the mounting posts to the corners of the cab like an x split in two it might retain more, could try on the sides too instead of just the front.
No matter which design retains more product it will either be the most complicated to assemble and work on or expensive to build and maintain which is why your Amazon boxes show up dented and you can hear the delivery truck hit bumps from 8 blocks away.
the nine is the best. 10/10
suggestion: put all of the suspensions ontop of eachother and see if it really is the smoothest
Nice idea💡
First time I've subscribed off a single video just so I can catch the follow up. You'd better make that follow up! W better suspensions (soft+hard) and more similar vehicles
When I saw you building the Summit Seeker I knew, this one’s gonna be the best
The spring rover’s suspension is similar to that of a Station Wagon. Awesome video! 🎉
Cool, thanks for watching!
This is the best video ever.
Thank you! BTW, amazing bots you've made! And I've found your secret page😉
In almost all of these challenges, a much softer spring rate would have provided a better result. Perhaps a test combining several suspension types together?
I also feel that a similar wheel base would lead to better results
Very good and interesting. It will be more interesting if you compare all suspentions with no suspension, wheel just hard fixed to axis. Sorry for my english.
No worries about your English-it's clear! Comparing different suspensions against a rigid setup sounds like a fascinating idea. I’ll definitely consider adding that to future tests. Thanks for the suggestion!
I'm not sure Lego is ready for this level of engineering.
The Shock Strider was my favorite, so satisfying to watch. Excellent, entertaining video!
The magnetic one is cool because it has a built in progressive spring rate
If the spring rover has a more solid rubber band i think then it can make a pretty good suspension
Everything is very interesting - in real life I would definitely consider building a closed container, then the losses would be significantly lower 😉
Men, this is so cool. Remindes me of time when I was busting my braing on how to create suspension unit that could also steer. I got it and then my older brother dissasemled it when I went to summer camp... Childhood memories :D
Cool! Glad you like it!
the difference between shock absorbers and general suspension is that shock absorbers run on "compressed gas" that most of the time is in a piston chamber, general suspensions just have a sort of soft spring so on rough terrain it will be decently smooth
shock absorbers aren't springs and don't have "stiffness" in the same regard as suspension springs (spring frequency). shock absorbers absorb energy via oil and/or gas inside of a piston. I suggest taking the time to research things that you are interested in.
I believe it is not fair comparison, as you are changjng the full joints mechanism and build when you change the suspension types, my recommendation to use and joint construction for all which will allow you totake accurate performance for each. My point is each suspension type will have the same joint support setup with that you can ignore any other factors which will affect the suspension performance
You should make a tank with the Crawl Voyager suspension system!
That was very entertaining 😂😂😂 Thank you!!!!
Merry Xmas!
Happy holidays!
My lego raptor has leaf spring suspension( a.k.a: rubber bands)