Afeni Shakur Speaks On Billy Garland [Tupac's Biological Father]
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Afeni Shakur reads an excerpt from the book Afeni Shakur: Evolution Of A Revolutionary written by Jasmine Guy.
Billy Garland tried to inherit half of Tupac’s estate after he died. The judge ruled that he couldn’t inherit because his contributions to care and support Tupac were “minuscule”. Testimony showed that Mr Garland’s documented contributions to Tupac’s care included $820, a bag of peanuts and a ticket to Rollerball and that he never saw Tupac during 15 of his 25 years on earth
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Billy Garland tried to inherit half of Tupac’s estate after he died. The judge ruled that he couldn’t inherit because his contributions to care and support Tupac were “minuscule”. Testimony showed that Mr Garland’s documented contributions to Tupac’s care included $820, a bag of peanuts and a ticket to Rollerball
Mr Garland says the reason he sued for half of the estate is because Afeni put that he was dead on the probate papers. “Probate papers” is a legal document that shows banks and other organisations that you have authority to deal with someone’s estate.
Afeni Said she paid him 900k still because his sperm was more worth than that
Lol let's be honest in the documentary it shows she went with 4 different men she was a beautiful chocolate highly melanated slim thick woman she didn't know because she was with all 4 of them so I don't think she lied to her son she didn't know
@@amarugee3003 Mr Garland appealed and Afeni came to an out of court settlement with Mr Garland for $540,000 plus legal fees totalling just over $350,000. The settlement was to prevent Mr Garland from profiting off Tupac’s name
This passes me off Billy wasn't given a fair shot it is not right to call him a deadbeat I will fight whoever it is running this narrative I DARE YOU TO GET AT ME I AINT WIT TALKN DOWN ON BILLY I WILL FIGHT THINK IT'S A GAME 😡😡😡😡
@@415_Stand-up What's you're reasoning behind your assumption that Billy is an angel in all this?
I'm here after the art of dialogue interview.
Me too lol I just watched it 2 mins ago and this was in my timeline RIGHT after
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Likewise the algorithm brung us ALL back together again.
Lol😂😂😂 Me 2
This hits different after watching Tupac's Father's side of things
I’m here after the Art of Dialogue interview, 2 sides to every story! I love Afeni what she stood for and was able to overcome. I just don’t understand why Pac was told his father was deceased. Sometimes when a women upset at the man it becomes bitter!
If any of you are real pac fans and are trying to talk down on her.. knock that shit off. It has nothing to do with us. That’s a family thing. She was a great woman who gave the world an incredible gift.
Because they both moved on, and Pac thought his step dad was his biological father.She definitely didn’t like the way things ended.
Exactly it's two sides
@@wooskionehundred1788 Billy Garland stated in his interview that they broke up and he got married & she was mad that he didn't "have time"... to me that sounds like he was prioritizing his new family & most likely she felt a way about it, AS SHE SHOULD. Just because you marry another woman doesn't mean your children now have to work around you & your new wife's schedule.. Im sure there's alot of shit that went down that pissed Afeni off.. & Billy Garland said those words about him being busy, not me.. LOL.
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Dear Mama Lyrics:
No love for my daddy, 'cause the coward wasn't there. He passed away and I didn't cry 'Cause my anger wouldn't let me feel for a stranger.
I love Ms. Afeni but this doesn't seem right. Based off his lyrics he thought he was decreased. Did Tupac even know that his Father was alive? Alot of Women keep their children from the Fathers. 😢
In Pac's initial statement it implies that he knew his dad was alive and purposely 'wasn't there' and therefore a coward. But later on he says his father passed away which may mean that his mom said he died. Maybe 2pac was looking for his biological father but he was lied to.
He was lied to about who his father was, Afeni told pac that this guy that was around sometimes was his dad, and once he died Afeni still lied to him and told Pac his real father died. That’s why he put that in dear mama. Afeni is a strong and smart woman but she’s made some big mistakes in her life
He thought his father was someone else. The guy name Legs was a drug dealer that died.
Garland can never live down the fact that he wasnt there before the fame. He in effect made himself just as dead to Pac as Afeni declared for most of Pac's life. Then Pac becomes famous and up comes Billy Garland. There's a reason Afeni felt sour toward him and declared him dead And He did nothing to dispel her reasons. Its sad either way. Billy showed up too late to truly be a father to Pac beyond the biological definition.
not until he got shot at quad studios and met him in bellevue hospital in NY
In every story there's his side, her side and the truth in between.
Her side is the truth. Dude was a true pos
@@kid5042 not here to say you wrong but how do you know?
@@kid5042so you never heard of baby mamas who turn their kids against the dads when they get in new relationships?
Look at her. She's that woman.
@@kid5042 right! The nerve of this dude just coming out now saying stuff after Afeeni isn't here to defend herself and the truth smh
after seeing that pic of tupac and his dad at a younger age while i’m hearing afeni’s book tell a different story, it just reminds me that in life one needs to be more logical than emotional judging people’s character, because we really don’t know people as much as we think we do.
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All this time. We thought Afeni was telling the truth. She lied .. what a piece of work
As much as i love her and always seen her almost as a virgin mary figure, i still think she went about it the wrong way and so did he, weather it was him cheating or having other kids with out her knowing its clear as day she took tupac out his life, tupacs publicist even said it cause she knew tupacs father and remembers seeing him with tupac at 3 years old, she said it the in last 48 hours documentary
Dude was a clown just wanted money
He wasn't in Tupac life
@@sophieb24you dont know how hood parenting works
Now remember guys, pay attention... The person who wrote the book was Jasmine Guy..
As much as i love her and always seen her almost as a virgin mary figure, i still think she went about it the wrong way and so did he, weather it was him cheating or having other kids with out her knowing its clear as day she took tupac out his life, tupacs publicist even said it cause she knew tupacs father and remembers seeing him with tupac at 3 years old, she said it the in last 48 hours documentary
@@LebronjamessaidnoShe wasn't a saint-- but if the question is why she lied, Garland only showed up 3xs, when Pac was thought to be dying or in jail-- each time when Pac might lose control of his finances. Then wanting half the estate? Something seems off.
@@skepchicagood point
Art of Dialogue's interview with Mr. Billy Garland brought me here
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Much respect to her but, if you know women you know it’s a lot of stubbornness in these situations
Her drug addiction wasn't her only bad choice I'll just say that
Tssssss this hurt
@@babywizardkelly166 truth hurts cuz its so truthful
And how many bad choices have you made???????????
@@niksodope Probably less then you
@@ArtteztheArtist well that's the dumbest shit to say..lol..guess it's easy to play perfect on the internet
After lying to your son about his father being deceased and hiding the son from his dad, u then come write a book discrediting him for not being there for his son. How was he supposed to take care of his son if he didn't even know where u fled with the boy? And to think that your other children mocked him for not looking like them. I got love for this woman and her contribution to black history, but my respect for her dwindled after i heard his side of the story. This is the problem with some women. The worst thing u can do to a child is keep him away from his/her father. Women please do better
Yes I agree
Tupac looks just like Billy Garland and I don’t care what Billy did that’s his son
I don't know her personally....but her not telling the truth about Pac Dad affected his mental.....Rest up Pac.....Salute Billy Garland....Right is right wrong is wrong....Even for mother's
If any of you are real pac fans and are trying to talk down on her.. knock that shit off. It has nothing to do with us. That’s a family thing. She was a great woman who gave the world an incredible gift.
@@rickyrichreacts9667 Bruh stop.... nobody gotta feel like you!!!! No body gotta disrespect her to speak the truth....You faking....
@@WorldwideMane Was it true that she cremated her son within 24 hours 😳
That’s what he himself wanted
As a mother, sometimes the best you can do for your kids is protect them from their father.. We don't know what kind of man he was. People forget that everybody ain't a great person and have layers. As intelligent as she was, as many strong men that he had in his life, I'm assuming she had reasons to keep him from her son
"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorn. A cemetery full of mfkrs not knowing". 🎶
At least he showed up..a lot of celebrities father's show up when they become famous not when they in the hospital.
Showed up ? Yeah he showed up alright. So you mean to tell me, Since the age of 18 Pac has been in the headlines from for the child shooting in Marin City, Being beaten by the cops for Jay-walking in oakland, the shooting of the off duty cop, his rise from digital underground, Brendas got a baby, JUICE, Then Above the rim which ignited the long drawn out battle over the rape case which led to his shooting, and you mean to tell me that that Man couldn’t show up at not ONE, and I mean ONE of those public known court date, a concert, movie set etc. To let him know that you are his father? .. but you wait until he is on his possible death bed to pop up and announce your existence? So you mean to tell me that this man watched and witnessed everything that was happening to his “son” being ripped up and torn apart by the public and media, Like we all did, from a TV screen .. and you did not run to that boy’s side until he was one shot away from being dead? Then I guess it wouldn’t be no surprise that this man is doing all these interviews with these blogs but nowhere in site when Pac is honored or Celebrated and receiving stars on Hollywood Blvd. or nothing. Make it make Sense!
How can she say Tupac's father, he never known? When she told Tupac, his father was DEAD? Women can be so wicked.
I see this women in a different light now !!!!! (AOD interview), as a father that had to deal with the mother of my youngest son cheating on me and move in with another man and then take me to court for child support and turn my son against me when I was there from the day he hit the table it hurt so bad that wanted to take my life , I feel that man's pain and to this day it still hurts him you can see it in the interview, I know that pain I been there it brought my own pain back , my son is older now and we are good 🙏.
As a father that loves my children, yet I've also had to deal with the constant hardship from the other parent. It hurts my heart any time I become aware of any parent keeping a child's head full of lies and trash talk about the other parent. Let the child see for his/her self what type of relationship they'll have with the other parent without the indoctrination. Pac was obviously hurting and needed guidance. No telling what could have been if Pac was allowed the relationship with his biological father.
Take the mother to court and get visitation. Father jave rights...yall just don’t fight for them
@@Nikki-kh8tt , Mr Garland seem more upset people give Afeni attention and not him. He never paid child support or was put on child support. He never fought for visitation rights. He said he always knew Tupac was his son, but Tupac didn't meet him until he was 23 in the hospital shot. Afeni never barred him from the hospital and said she did not know him. He never made a real effort to be in son life. The man who did make an effort died and that was who she acknowledged his father. Mr Garland should be more upset at himself.
@@nikeshamorrow9444 right I forgot no accountability for the parents to raise a child or at least the woman anyway can’t make this shh up
@@Nikki-kh8tt you don't even know my story. You should ask before just assuming. Been there, done that. Thing about court is, they always ride with the mother. She lies all day to lawyers and the judge.
@@Nikki-kh8tt thousands of men are in court today fighting for their rights. Garland says she picked up and moved, which we know she did, and he had no idea where she was for fifteen years.
If u had only told Tupac the Truth perhaps the father and son would never have been estranged in the first place. For whatever Billys faults, you too deliberately lied to Tupac because you didn't want him to have Billy Garland as a father. I sense Billy caused u pain and this pain is what inspires the words u say here. Tupac is not the only child to have been deprived of a father due to the bitterness in a woman.
If any of you are real pac fans and are trying to talk down on her.. knock that shit off. It has nothing to do with us. That’s a family thing. She was a great woman who gave the world an incredible gift.
@@rickyrichreacts9667 She was an addict who lied. Tell the truth and shame the devil.
my mom got angry w/me when i would ask about my sperm donor, after i finally got my birth certificate and found his name was legally omitted it took me years to figure out on my own that i would never get the truth about the guy ever. Whatever he did, he shouldnt have but birth mother was wrong also because she was angry and would not tell me anything. BUT my other 4 older siblings knew their fathers all thru their lives as children. What the!
@@rickyrichreacts9667 lmao
So you mean to tell me, Since the age of 18 Pac has been in the headlines from for the child shooting in Marin City, Being beaten by the cops for Jay-walking in oakland, the shooting of the off duty cop, his rise from digital underground, Brendas got a baby, JUICE, Then Above the rim which ignited the long drawn out battle over the rape case which led to his shooting, and you mean to tell me that that Man couldn’t show up at not ONE, and I mean ONE of those public known court date, a concert, movie set etc. To let him know that you are his father? .. but you wait until he is on his possible death bed to pop up and announce your existence? So you mean to tell me that this man watched and witnessed everything that was happening to his “son” being ripped up and torn apart by the public and media, Like we all did, from a TV screen .. and you did not run to that boy’s side until he was one shot away from being dead? Then I guess it wouldn’t be no surprise that this man is doing all these interviews with these blogs but nowhere in site when Pac is honored or Celebrated and receiving stars on Hollywood Blvd. or nothing. Make it make Sense!
Also, she never lied. He explains it clearly in this Interview right here ruclips.net/user/shortsQ7A60Z_JO-0?feature=share
It was another guy that was claimed to be his father that passed , which is the man he spoke of in the song, She wasn’t talking about Billy. Remember, Afeni was doing dugs at the time she conceived Pac and may have slept with multiple men around that time, and could have really thought Tupac father was another man’s that she was with around that same time of conception. Yes, Very irresponsible, But It does happen unfortunately. Billy may have been a fling or a one night stand and the two was probably never involved or in contact again. I’m sure he heard through the grapevine that Afeni had a child and may possibly knew that he could’ve been the father if he compared the timeline, or if he somehow seen a picture of the child, crossed paths with them on the street, or whatever the case may have been, and felt a striking resemblance. And what I think Afeni is saying is, If you knew all along or felt this was indeed your son, who was claimed to be another mans, then why did you wait 23 years later when that child was rich and famous and on his death bed to now claim your spot at the thrown.
That man had 23 years, which I’m sure in Afeni’s eyes he had been way long forgot about and probably ruled out as even a possibility in her mind when she was sure the other father was. So she was just as surprised as her son when that man , who probably was just a fling, popped up 23 years later at her Son’s bed side claiming to be his father. That man had 23 YEARS!! He could of been searching for his son way before he became rich and famous and demand a DNA test if he always knew he was his. You may never know, they may even had some pass by encounters and walked right pass Afeni with Pac cradle in her hands, and didn’t even give a 2 F’s to look or even ask if the child was his. That man went about his life. Even if he thought it was a possibility or heard through the grapevine .. that Man didn’t go searching , he went about his life. So to her , The AUDACITY!
Remember, Afeni was the one who requested the Blood test when he sued for half of the Estate which created an even bigger red flag on his purpose and intent, so that alone let’s you know that her herself really did not think he was the father, in which we know later he actually proved to be. But If there was any malice intent on Afenis behalf in her hiding that man from Pac and keeping him out of her son’s life purposely, and that Man had actual proof of his constant attempts and efforts in trying to locate and find his son way before he was famous, I promise you this, The courts would of NEVER ruled in her favor!
And honestly to me, the energy I read, after Afeni got out of Jail after having Pac in prison and struck a hard low resorting back to drugs, poverty, etc. I think maybe she did try to locate him or even gave wind of the possibility and he probably denied ever even sleeping with, at that time , the “Crack Fien” and he was never thought of, mentioned, or spoke of again. That’s honestly what I think it really was based on my intuition and ability to read the energy of the dynamics.
Cold part is Tupac had never heard the name Billy Garland either before he was shot. According to his song "Dear Mama" the man that Tupac thought was his biological father was dead. Let's not forget that part.
Yes even Tupac said that in his interview but ppl was to believe what they want to
There’s an interview on RUclips where Tupac acknowledges Billy seeing him after being shot & their relationship. ruclips.net/video/gNf_EnWbwwg/видео.html
Bc his mama lied to him
like on the song Papa’z Song he explains why he hated his father but why was tupac real last name crooks
@12onomic Cause Afeni told him someone else was his father and he was dead..
The fact is there is her story, and his story, and from pac's music it was clear that he was lied to from his mother and the people around him about his father. But, luckily pac met his father, and it was his mother who gave permission to shut the life support machine off, who knows pac could of lived. His father is still alive with one lung.
2pac mother toxic af !! For Keeping her son away from her father smh ! No respect !
Oh wow this is sad… very sad and unfortunate. Tupac may still be here had she not alienated the father😢
Facts!!!!
Na that sperm donor should have been their wtf are you talking about goofy
Yo I been in Pacs position and Mr.Garlands so I really understand the situation first hand.Sometimes when you don't want a female she will snatch your child and bounce because she can't control you and she not stronger then you so she will attack you and try to hurt you through taking your child, when it's like that you leave it alone because it's nothing but trouble.Its funny how nobody recognize how Billy Garland is in all his other children life except Tupac.Your mom can hate your father unmercifully and talk bad about him and slander him and you be thinking damn don't you know that's a part of me.Say what you want but who was 17 years old kicked out on the street?Who was on crack?who had thugs and multiple men around Tupac?Who snatched Tupac out of the school of performing arts when he finally felt like he had something he could connect with?Was Billy perfect?I doubt it.Billy Garland didn't go find interviews they came to him.Billy Garland didn't do nothing wrong to Tupac except put him in the wrong field.
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Nahhh you got it wrong. Had Garland reached out at LEAST once prior to that shooting you’d have a point. But the fact he didn’t come around AT ALL to see, meet or even acknowledge Pac until Pac was both shot and famous, is very telling. U mean to tell me he heard Dear Mama, where Pac mentioned his dad was dead, knowing you’re not dead, and you don’t see about your son at ALL after that? Hell no. Sounds like a man that never attempted to try, to me.
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Speaking facts
People also do not realize the value of someone visiting you in tough times. If he was as bad as she said he was, he would've never gone to visit him every time he was sick or in prison. If you have spent time in either institution, you know the true value of a visit.
This should be a lesson to all parents. If you have children together and you no longer are together do right by your children by getting out of your feelings and let the other biological parent be there for their children. It really does damage children when parents deny access to their other parent or tell lies about them. One can only imagine how 2Pac would have been like had his father was there from early and remained through out
Mr Garland said he new Tupac was his but never paid child support, never fought for visitation and tried to see him until he was an adult in the hospital. Mr Garland was also married with a family. I believe if Afeni was on drugs and homeless the court would have granted him custody. Why not fight to get your child out that situation?
@@nikeshamorrow9444 cut it shttt. The woman ran from state to state until the boy was damn near a grown man from New York to Baltimore to Atlanta to California to New Jersey. How the hell was he supposed to keep up with that in the 70s
@@michaelmartin9270 Exactly all these people know are Facebook, Instagram,cell phones etc. None of this stuff was around back then, she left and kept moving, don't blame him for not knowing where they were, because SHE told the son she loved so much, that his daddy was DEAD
@@ricol9291 well he managed to find him when he was a successful adult in a hospital bed didn’t he? Afeni and billy were both panthers and had mutual acquaintances, he wasn’t hard to find.
@@justdoit.86yearsago He only found him, if you were listening, because his friend told him that he heard his son was shot, so when he was shot, he knew what hospital he was in ,and he said Pac saw him and thought he was looking at his older self
This sounds good, but how about the part You told Pac his father was dead, Dear Mama 🎵🎶
Nothing negates the fact that she literally LIED and told her son his father was dead. That's flat out EVIL no matter how you slice it. Woman can be so manipulative!! SMFH
She never Lied. It was another guy that was claimed to be his father that passed , which is the man he spoke of in the song, She wasn’t talking about Billy. Remember, Afeni was doing dugs at the time she conceived Pac and may have slept with multiple men around that time, and could have really thought Tupac father was another man’s that she was with around that same time of conception. Yes, Very irresponsible, But It does happen unfortunately. Billy may have been a fling or a one night stand and the two was probably never involved or in contact again. I’m sure he heard through the grapevine that Afeni had a child and may possibly knew that he could’ve been the father if he compared the timeline, or if he somehow seen a picture of the child, crossed paths with them on the street, or whatever the case may have been, and felt a striking resemblance. And what I think Afeni is saying is, If you knew all along or felt this was indeed your son, who was claimed to be another mans, then why did you wait 23 years later when that child was rich and famous and on his death bed to now claim your spot at the thrown.
That man had 23 years, which I’m sure in Afeni’s eyes he had been way long forgot about and probably ruled out as even a possibility in her mind when she was sure the other father was. So she was just as surprised as her son when that man , who probably was just a fling, popped up 23 years later at her Son’s bed side claiming to be his father. That man had 23 YEARS!! He could of been searching for his son way before he became rich and famous and demand a DNA test if he always knew he was his. You may never know, they may even had some pass by encounters and walked right pass Afeni with Pac cradle in her hands, and didn’t even give a 2 F’s to look or even ask if the child was his. That man went about his life. Even if he thought it was a possibility or heard through the grapevine .. that Man didn’t go searching , he went about his life. So to her , The AUDACITY!
Remember, Afeni was the one who requested the Blood test when he sued for half of the Estate which created an even bigger red flag on his purpose and intent, so that alone let’s you know that her herself really did not think he was the father, in which we know later he actually proved to be. But If there was any malice intent on Afenis behalf in her hiding that man from Pac and keeping him out of her son’s life purposely, and that Man had actual proof of his constant attempts and efforts in trying to locate and find his son way before he was famous, I promise you this, The courts would of NEVER ruled in her favor!
And honestly to me, the energy I read, after Afeni got out of Jail after having Pac in prison and struck a hard low resorting back to drugs, poverty, etc. I think maybe she did try to locate him or even gave wind of the possibility and he probably denied ever even sleeping with, at that time , the “Crack Fien” and he was never thought of, mentioned, or spoke of again. That’s honestly what I think it really was based on my intuition and ability to read the energy of the dynamics.
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@@montaiahypolite5275I think Afeni knew Garland was his father. Her first marriage fell apart because her husband either found out or figured out he wasn't Pac's father. Garland was a part of Pacs life when he was young, but by his own admission mentions he got married around the time they "lost touch". However, his timing was hella suspect. He said a friend told him his son got shot and that's how he found him. But that friend didn't know any other time where Pac was? Then he visited in jail and showed up again when he got shot the second time. It's weird ass timing to only pop up when he either thought he was going to die or in jail, where he's not controlling his finances. That alone makes him look opportunistic-- then wanting half of his estate?? Come on now. Maybe Afeni let Pac believe his father was gone instead of introducing him to someone who didn't care? Regardless, they're both bitter asl when they talk about the other-- what's really sad is, I doubt either of them lost any sleep because they didn't like each other-- but it had a profound impact on Pac. Sad. It's the same story over and over-- only the kids get hurt.
Is it better to know that your father is alive and well but doesn't want to be apart of your life or to just think he's dead?
She didn't know were he was so basically he was dead to her cuz he took off. You tripnn. PAC loved his mother more than billy Garland who was a stranger to PAC. PAC even said 'he better not expect nothing big for Christmas "
@@montaiahypolite5275you writing all this out makes afeni out to be Worse than the original commenter, the length women will go to to try and prove a point yet not know that their explanation is worse than the point they’re arguing against is crazy 😂
Rip 🪦 Tupac I miss you even thou I love ya music I still till this day listen ya music
Me too we are forever heartbroken that he's gone!!
Her hate for garland is frightening... also its clear if pac never made anything of himself she would have no problem letting his father near him
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How is that clear?
Yeah thats basically almost every single black parents. They hate each other badly but love the child
"sperm donor" interesting phrase for aspiring baby mamas. Billy Garland may not be the best human on earth. But he is Tupac's biological father and nothing can change that. If Afeni hadn't lied to Tupac that he was dead, the 2 men would have crossed paths and patched things up earlier in Tupac's life. It's no use trying to make a monster of Tupac's last surviving true bloodline
"He made not be the best human on earth" what do that suppose to mean. I didn't see or heard any thing bad about him.
@@djhayes3105he didn’t raise him you goofy
I love 2Pac’s mom, and I have nothing but the upmost respect for her and the contribution she made fighting for our people truly places her in the pantheon of greats in black history but there’s two sides to every story from my understanding she was not honest with 2Pac about who his father was, as well as the fact that she moved around a lot when Tupac and his sister was kids I don’t think he should’ve tried to inherit half of 2Pac‘s estate but I also don’t think he should be labeled to the rest of the world as a deadbeat. Dad who just appeared at 2Pac’s bedside when he was 23 years old and critically wounded. I think everybody should be made aware of 2Pac‘s moms parts in him not having a clear understanding of who his father was there’s a letter that Tupac wrote talking about this very situation from my understanding he was actually quite upset with his mom and they had to work through that particular situation.
The man first saw Tupac when Juice was released which mean in a movie.If he was money thirsty he would have reach out straight away but he showed up in the hospital few years later when he was in a critical situation in the hospital. I really don't blame him that much.Afeni kept him away from PAC only her knew why she did it.The Billy Garland's situation just add to the complex life PAC lived,if he was not died so young they would have worked it out in my opinion since PAC was talking on the phone with some of his siblings.
@@atshabal exactly, and what I don’t like is women get to get away with the crap that they do when it comes to stuff like this and I totally understand it I am 100% African-American but my mom named me after a Hispanic man who she was dating named me even though she knew I was another man’s kid, and she was dishonest with me about it for 28 years I was 28 years old when I met my siblings on my father side for the first time and myself and my brother had to do a DNA test to sort everything Out I couldn’t do it with my father, because the man who was biologically responsible for me being here was deceased, but nevertheless, it never cease to amaze me how the women in our community take no accountability for who they have children with, and the problems it causes not being upfront with their children about who their biological other half actually is now Billy Garland is known to the world as a man who thought his son was worth $800 a movie ticket and a bag of peanuts that’s just not right.
Pac called him a loser after they met…
@@MrBean617 was that in a interview or a song or something? Where can I find that?
@@dro2real836 It was an interview. I can’t remember with who because he’s done so many. I’ll look it up later.
It's two sides to every story,it's easy to say what she's saying without Mr.Garland there to represent his side.
I'll take Afeni's word more than Mr. Garland's. Although, when she was moving around to different cities with 2pac, that doesn't help her case since Mr. Garland may have tried to look for them but was unable to. Who knows
@@unbiasedtv6525 right, he’s had 25+ years to speak. The timing of this is real suspect and The way Afeni is being disrespected in the comments of his interview is crazy
Three sides. Billy side Afeni side and subsequently the truth.
@@TupacFactsOfficial you must be young ? Tupac and Afeni moved around a lot and in the 80s it wasn't the internet it was instagram and facebook where you can easily find a person . if Afeni wasnt listed in the phone book (Which she wasn't) it would be hard to stay in contact . That doesnt mean he didnt try to find him. Like Billy said in the Interview she was still a great woman even though she DID lie to 2pac .
@@TupacFactsOfficial She is not being disrespected. The truth is she lied to many people, including Tupac.
I believe Billy Garland
Good for you.
“Not to disrespect my peoples, but my papa was a loser
Only plan he had for mama was to fuck her and abuse her
Even as a little seed, I could see his plan for me
Stranded on welfare, another broken family” Tupac written and recorded after meeting Billy Garland
Have to remember this book is from Jasmine Guy's perspective,what she had been told. Everyone has a side. Like most men & women who has kids went through this or will soon go through this,glad I'm over this part of life and yes I had this problem but all my children are grown.
Thanks son for letting vent on this page
Is it possible she didn’t tell Billy he was his father until the first time Tupac was shot I don’t know I’m genuinely asking
It's confusing to me too but surely he would have known she was pregnant around the time that he had ended his relationship with her, or would have been told that she had a kid a year later, I think he knew but just bailed on her and didn't want anything to do with Tupac until he became famous, then he saw the money and tried to get back in his life, if he cared or was any kind of decent man he would have fought to see him earlier in his life, I think he's full of shit and his Son and the Mother of his child are not around to defend themselves, so he's trying to (sorry I'm going to have to quote Tupac) He's searching for fortune and fame.
@1979mattant the kkkops and courts r on these women side. A man can only do so much if a women don't want u around.
Thats literally exactly what happened... afeni lied to pac his entire life. Pac didn't even know his dad was alive until he got shot.
From what Billy Garland said, in the art of dialogue interview, she knew he was pac's father
She approached him when Pac was young but he wasn’t ready to help her bc he was newly married.
Afeni is so right! This goes out to all the "fathers" who never cared for their children!
A liar was rite smdh. Raise your principles 🤡
Rip Mrs Afeni Shakur. Remarkable woman so strong.
In the scriptures it says Honor thy father and thy mother but in the black community we are taught honor thy mother and disrespect the father and that’s why our kids and community stay cursed following the the wrong doctrine of life
Amen
Bingo
No, don’t forget many fathers are absent despite the mother asking for help. I hate the gaslighting and game some black men play. You have some treacherous women but not all single mom keeping the dad away. I’ve seen many men just live their best life while the mother struggle.
@@Petitedelight87K naw the women want to have the kids and control everything. A lot of times the man didn't even want to have the kid and the woman has it anyway. And no just because we want to have sex with you we don't want kids with you
Glory hallelujah, preach brother Bobby Brown!
Thank you for posting this video.
No disrespect to the dead but even pac said he thought his father was dead. At some point it was wrong to allow him to continue to believe that when she knew differently. Even if Billy was not the best role model as she may have stated. That should've been Pacs choice to judge.
As much as i love her and always seen her almost as a virgin mary figure, i still think she went about it the wrong way and so did he, weather it was him cheating or having other kids with out her knowing its clear as day she took tupac out his life, tupacs publicist even said it cause she knew tupacs father and remembers seeing him with tupac at 3 years old, she said it the in last 48 hours documentary
@@Noellistoriif they moved on then why continue to lie in a book after pac’s death. You women try to let the horrific things women do go but if it was a man you’d be talking different. No they didn’t move on. Clearly billy hurt, clearly pac was hurt and she lied and continued the lie after his death. Stop giving passes for horrible behavior
Really think about it. So you mean to tell me, Since the age of 18 Pac has been in the headlines from for the child shooting in Marin City, Being beaten by the cops for Jay-walking in oakland, the shooting of the off duty cop, his rise from digital underground, Brendas got a baby, JUICE, Then Above the rim which ignited the long drawn out battle over the rape case which led to his shooting, and you mean to tell me that that Man couldn’t show up at not ONE, and I mean ONE of those public known court date, a concert, movie set etc. To let him know that you are his father? .. but you wait until he is on his possible death bed to pop up and announce your existence? So you mean to tell me that this man watched and witnessed everything that was happening to his “son” being ripped up and torn apart by the public and media, Like we all did, from a TV screen .. and you did not run to that boy’s side until he was one shot away from being dead? Then I guess it wouldn’t be no surprise that this man is doing all these interviews with these blogs but nowhere in site when Pac is honored or Celebrated and receiving stars on Hollywood Blvd. or nothing. Make it make Sense!
Also, she never lied. He explains it clearly in this Interview right here ruclips.net/user/shortsQ7A60Z_JO-0?feature=share
It was another guy that was claimed to be his father that passed , which is the man he spoke of in the song, She wasn’t talking about Billy. Remember, Afeni was doing dugs at the time she conceived Pac and may have slept with multiple men around that time, and could have really thought Tupac father was another man’s that she was with around that same time of conception. Yes, Very irresponsible, But It does happen unfortunately. Billy may have been a fling or a one night stand and the two was probably never involved or in contact again. I’m sure he heard through the grapevine that Afeni had a child and may possibly knew that he could’ve been the father if he compared the timeline, or if he somehow seen a picture of the child, crossed paths with them on the street, or whatever the case may have been, and felt a striking resemblance. And what I think Afeni is saying is, If you knew all along or felt this was indeed your son, who was claimed to be another mans, then why did you wait 23 years later when that child was rich and famous and on his death bed to now claim your spot at the thrown.
That man had 23 years, which I’m sure in Afeni’s eyes he had been way long forgot about and probably ruled out as even a possibility in her mind when she was sure the other father was. So she was just as surprised as her son when that man , who probably was just a fling, popped up 23 years later at her Son’s bed side claiming to be his father. That man had 23 YEARS!! He could of been searching for his son way before he became rich and famous and demand a DNA test if he always knew he was his. You may never know, they may even had some pass by encounters and walked right pass Afeni with Pac cradle in her hands, and didn’t even give a 2 F’s to look or even ask if the child was his. That man went about his life. Even if he thought it was a possibility or heard through the grapevine .. that Man didn’t go searching , he went about his life. So to her , The AUDACITY!
Remember, Afeni was the one who requested the Blood test when he sued for half of the Estate which created an even bigger red flag on his purpose and intent, so that alone let’s you know that her herself really did not think he was the father, in which we know later he actually proved to be. But If there was any malice intent on Afenis behalf in her hiding that man from Pac and keeping him out of her son’s life purposely, and that Man had actual proof of his constant attempts and efforts in trying to locate and find his son way before he was famous, I promise you this, The courts would of NEVER ruled in her favor!
And honestly to me, the energy I read, after Afeni got out of Jail after having Pac in prison and struck a hard low resorting back to drugs, poverty, etc. I think maybe she did try to locate him or even gave wind of the possibility and he probably denied ever even sleeping with, at that time , the “Crack Fien” and he was never thought of, mentioned, or spoke of again. That’s honestly what I think it really was based on my intuition and ability to read the energy of the dynamics.
@@montaiahypolite5275 you gotta remember that was a different time, it was entirely more difficult to track a person down in 1991, 2, 3 4 and so forth then it is today, he also admits that he could've tried harder. my argument is that after pac became an adult it should have been his decision to connect with Garland and not his moms, that was taken from him! I'd like to believe he would've loved to have gotten ta know his brothers and sisters! She should have told him later on!
Billy Garland spoke his truth of how he felt about Afeni not allowing him to sign Tupac's death certificate after he passed away...I just seem to peep how scorn Afeni Shakur was towards Billy Garland...She let it be known how she felt about him in this video and that's messed up because Tupac didn't get a chance to have his real Father in his life when he was young... Having a Father figure around throughout your Childhood years will help you as you learn about this world but having your actual Father in your life throughout your youth will give you a better chance at surviving and not going off on emotions which will you in a bad place (Jail or in a Grave) Tupac didn't have his real father Billy Garland in his life because Afeni was scorn and hurt, basically Tupac was lied to all because of a relationship gon wrong...I wonder how Tupac felt being lied to about his real Father by his mother Afeni
If garland wanted to be in Pacs life he should’ve went to the courts and he didnt
@@0Shane13 courts favour women over men. Over the last 40 years the women get all the rights to the kids
@@KD400_ He never went to court to get custody of tupac fool and Afeni never put him on child support. Get your head out your ass mayne
He didn't know where the fuck he was. You got to remember this is before social media. He just happened to be watching "Juice" in the theater after a partner of his told him someone was staring in it with the name of his son. He seen it and recognized that was his son and tried to reach out to Pac publicist and Afeni told him to tell Billy "Pac wasn't ready". So if his friend knew Pac's name and told Billy it was the same name as his son that means Billy was was talking to people about Pac in hopes of finding him.
@@justjuangoodcitizen4297 he could’ve went to the courts or the police then. Moms can’t just take your children and vanish
She’s not telling the whole story. Two things can and are usually true in people. We can be great and a shining light in one aspect but also dark and unrighteous in another aspect.
Billy and afeni relationship honestly was like this in my opinion: she loved billy. He probably broke her heart. And she was bitter and angry
A Lost Of Words Is An Understatement...
She's right he would've found him if he really were looking for him. quite frankly he were never lost.
Soon as a black woman called a black man a deadbeat her heart is just broken and she's hurt. Afeni was smart and a strong woman but she was weak when it came to her giving up her box to different men
Facts usually they say deadbeats when u don’t wanna be wit dem
Women don't want to be held accountable. I know shes dead but she made stupid decisions. Kevin Samuels a man who spoke about relationships was mocked when he died. These same women will mock a man after his death but they will never do the same to a woman
Women will always try to convince people how evil the father to their children is, it's like we were there when they made those children!
I personally think that lady afeni is given too much credit and to hear a woman speak like that about her sons father is cringe. Why can pac and his mother blame their setbacks on the system but here this lady is talking accountability when it comes to Billy .
Facts
Like Kevin Samuels said u cant make this sh*t up
I think that she meant that Billy Garland was "Dead"to her and 2 Pac because he didn't try his best to be a part of his life.
NO EXCUSE! STOP IT!
@@ViperBOSS74 ... meaning?
Exactly!!!
@samanthacaine5029 saying dead to her and telling her son believe that his father is actually dead is wrong. Playing word games with a child is selfish, and we see the devastating results. She is wrong and some people just cannot accept accountability.
Why is this her favorite part of the book?
Look man we need it be honest, if she smoked crack, it isn’t out of the realm of possibility she lied to Tupac about the identity of his father. Let’s stop with women do no wrong narrative. Yes she cleaned up her life and did amazing things but she was also young and dumb like all of us.
But,he didn't make any effort to see Pac until after he became famous...he must have known about Pac before then.
@@NGT4LIFE didn’t PAC move a lot? PAC didn’t have Facebook or Twitter
@@NGT4LIFE More accurately, he didn't go to see Pac until after he got shot. Big diff.
@@envyops yes...but he still could have reached out to him way before that...why did he wait until then?
Maybe he thought Pac would die,so he wanted to make sure he could stake his claim to Pacs assets if he dies.
@@NGT4LIFE STOP!!! Pac was admittedly broke with no assets at that time, because his money was going to his sexual assault case. What he probably wanted to do was finally see his son because he wouldn't have wanted him to die without the truth being out there. All men ain't that bad.
Queen Afeni Shakur, RIP 😭💔, respect ❤.
This is sad, I see why Tupac was waa so ready to leave this world now.
Wow
As a child whose father was absent even when he knew about me. My mother warned me out of love that pops would disappoint me or my expectations of a father. She couldnt stand him but she let me try figure out a relationship with him. It help me let that relationship go in peace.
She alienated Tupac from his dad like millions of black women
Many may be wondering why this clip is being posted i.e. the timing of it all, well Mr. Garland has come out and is now doing an interview on the Art of the Dialogue channel, they’re only releasing it in bits but I am perplexed at how much could he add talking about 2Pac’s life when it appears he had so little to do with him growing up? We’ll see though I guess.
Maybe he’ll speak about when Pac was on Deathrow
Well listen to the interview and find out 🤣 they've released 3 parts so far and it's pretty good info/perspective
Damn bro this man has been dead for over 20yrs and people still obsessed discussing/dissecting his life, let the man rest in peace! I swear people make me sick smh
@@M_A_C_K_215 nope he's alive
An untimely death is a case study for those who are living brother.. when this man died all sorts of conspiracy theories where spew out (FBI,Suge, Cuba, etc) thanks to the internet we learn it was never that deep,it was actually human error all round that lead to his demise. Which is a healthier outlook than looking at a 25 yr old artist as a Christ like figure.
She was a great black historical figure they don’t want us to know. She was wise beyond her years and resourceful. Love Afeni to death but after listen to Billy, Delray and art of dialogue she was a cause of his circumstances, not just hers.
A woman scorned is sometimes the most dangerous. She had her struggles like many and maybe she was trying to shield the pain and hurt of what Billy said or did. However, once a child is born you try to give a baby as many lifelines and resources as possible. He had Legs and Dr. Mutulu Shakur and I’m sure they were great and sufficed. But he knew his was missing his biological father and lineage and he talked about it in Dear Mama. It was really a crime against humanity that was righted by his resilience and talent but ultimately he “succumbed” to his injuries. Maybe a 3rd father who was the first could’ve been that intervention. Just something to think about🤔🧐
SHE WAS THE CAUSE OF HIS SUCCESS AND HIS DEMISE...
Tupac died not knowing the truth 😢 his mother put hurt in him nobody can heal
He knew the truth. He and his father met and talked
Bottom line is had Afeni done ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY, we would not have had the Tupac we had!! She did what she was suppose to do. Funny how Billy claimed not to know about Tupac while he was growing up poor with a crack addict. Then after his death had no problem sueing for half of his estate that he contributed NOTHING TOO!! Why would he fell entitled?
I heard she blocked Billy from Pac’s life 🤷♀️
They’ll do that.
She did
Agreed 100%
The b***h was a crackhead, what yall expect from a crackhead 😂
Yep, that's black mothers post 1970s feminism in the US
This lady did a very good job raising 2pac.
This is where 2pac got his wisdom from.
As much as I love 2pac... I have to thank this lady for creating a man like 2pac.
R.I.P. Miss Afeni Shakur
R.I.P Pac
She didnt do a very good job lol
If she didn't do a good job... how come we're still talking about 2pac right now, 26 years later??????
@@amarusheeku8605 they still talking about Hitler too
@@nelsonmyrick1974 well, if you put it that way... they talk about donald trump.
They talk about d. chauvin.
What's your point, exactly????
She had her son believing his father was a deadbeat and dead just because she was scorn all the way to not wanting his father to sign the birth certificate , i dont trust a bitter woman that lies to her own son and is trying to rewriting history
Afeni protected her son at all cost.
You’re sick lol
@@donaldjones318huh
Afeni was wrong here. She is a great woman but should have never told Tupac his father was dead
Didn’t she throw Tupac out on the street?
Wow she did? For what?
@@AngelHoll-pr8fz is there a reason to justify throwing your kid in the street ?
@Ohmlaws you have to realize she was on drug's!!!
@@AngelHoll-pr8fz so if she was a crackhead. Why did you ask why did she put him out ?
@Ohmlaws I just thought about it after my comment but that was sad though!!!
Legs raised Tupac and took care of him billy was not there until Tupac was famous
she didnt want him there
This is the definition of a women
Sometimes parents lie to protect their kids. The fact that Billy showed up at times when 2pac life was threatened does show his character. Why after the Quad Studio shooting didnt Billy and Tupac maintain their relationship? He disappears then shows up in Vegas again? Wow bro.
Exactly! We don’t the DEEP HISTORY between this relationship. Now 2 of them are gone and so it’s Billy Garland’s version of events without much to say anything else. In the end this doesn’t change anything, imo this is why when people pass it’s best if they let them rest. Billy Garland really cared and so forth wouldn’t be concerned if he was labeled “dead”. What difference does it make? He wasn’t in Tupac’s life much and only appeared to then disappear regardless the circumstances he just wasn’t a top priority. Old age changes us and now ohhh yeah now we see our wrongs but well it happened and doesn’t change it.
her behavior always seemed strange to me after pac died.
i never seen her cry after pac died and she never seemed outraged and upset about what happened to him.
she just never seemed bothered at all by what happene.
biggies mother tried very hard to find out who killed her son and she even tried to sue the police.
but with afeni, she just seem to act like if nothing happened or like if it really didn't matter and it wasn't a big deal.
i always found that to be very weird.
Two different mothers two different backgrounds, u gotta realize she used to be on drugs.. some recovering drug addicts don’t show emotions like that, plus she was a panther , certain mothers just tough and have to be strong (in the public eye)
@@ShawnDemarcoEntertainment regardless of drugs or anything else..most mothers who truly care about their son, is not going to be walking around all smiles after her son got killed.
most mothers would be outraged and would be demanding to know what happened.
biggies mother went everywhere to find out what happened to her son..she questioned everyone and hired private investigators and lawyers and demanded answers.
afeni never seemed upset or bothered that her son was killed..she lied to 2pac about his dad, and she never was really there for him.
when he kept catching cases, she never told him to stop.
im sure that if biggie caught cases that his mother would yell at him and tell him that he better not get in any more trouble ever.
with biggie you can see that his mother actually cared and loves him very much.
with 2pac you don't see that love from his mother towards him.
Remember that she was a black panther. I think that hardened her and also not everybody can cry in front of cameras
She was a panther! They killed her son. She would have never gave the feds the satisfaction of seeing her at her lowest.
@@makaveli2c7exactly
Thank you for this video. The truth always prevails.
I’ve met Afeni in person and her words here are true in regards to this man wanting the estate. Also, for all y’all trying to shame Afeni (who is not here to defend her name and honor) ask yourself this: why is the quad studio shooting the first time he met 2pac? He has been touring and he could have met him in any one of the years prior. LITERALLY any one of the years prior.
True. It is so SAD.
Don’t forget that when Tupac was 12 years old he was an actor in a very popular play in Harlem called “A raisin in the Sun”. His father could’ve went to Harlem to him see him then. From New Jersey that’s about a 40 minute train ride to Harlem, right?
She was mad as any ex will be when a man married another woman.Smh R.i.P. sad story.
There's always two sides to every story.
Billy said Tupac went missing at 3 and he never saw him again until he was on the movie screen. Yet, Tupac live in the same city around the same people until he was 12 or 13. 🤔
Right 😂
Not easy to find people back in the day
She was running from that man
@@khamiahsimmons957
How could she be running when she lived in the same city. Billy knew Mutulu, who was raising Tupac. So, you saying by proxy, Mutulu would have to be running to. Tupac went to the same school everyday. These are facts yall ignore. Billy was a married man with children and wasn't fully concerned about Tupac then.
@@baccgod942 from ny to Baltimore to California. She was running! And playing pick a daddy games knowing damn well billy was the father. She was hurt cuz he left her and got married and she turned bitter. She Just called this man a damn sperm donor. And she lied that he was dead!!!
She’s right. And she could also be WRONG. - I know of a lot of mothers who make it difficult for the Fathers to see their children. - She could have easily been the reason why he wasn’t in Tupac’s life. - And he cane be blamed too…. Maybe he didn’t try hard enough to reach out.
Thank you! We don’t know. She did approach him about help raising Tupac but he was available. So he had a chance. She shouldn’t have lied to Pac. I can see her doing this to spare his feelings.
@@Petitedelight87K how u know she said that? She was on crack for half of Pac life. I don’t believe anything a crackhead says
Maybe he did try hard enough and she kept blocking him and he said to himself that I will wait until he is away from her to get back into his life
@@toorealforearth1981 nah, he mentioned in an interview she approached him for support raising Tupac, but he didn’t really help bc he was a newlywed. Typically, no one is completely innocent come to familial conflicts like this.
@@Petitedelight87K I didn’t say he was innocent we can’t take her word for it either she did tell Pac he was dead and then all of sudden when he got shot and he came to the hospital he was there as a man that was on child support at one point of time I talked to my child’s mother told her I got fired from a job and that I was working at another and I will help out as much as I can until I get back right now she could have been a a bih and made my life hard but she didn’t and when I got back right I continued to do what I was supposed to do now did Ms. Afeni give Mr. Garland a chance to get his self together to make it right or did she just jump to conclusions and said fuck it you are not needed I will do this on my own we don’t know all we know is she painted buddy in bad light
You still told your son his biological father was dead... Unforgivable
She never told Tupac that Billy was dead. Know what you’re talking about before you comment. Irresponsible
@@TupacFactsOfficial So why did Pac say his dad was dead on “Dear Mama”?
@@kweli05right!!
RUclips algorithm knows how to keep your attention. They suggested this after I watched 2pacs father side of the story in art of dialogue interview. 2pacs mom is a human with her own flaws and mistakes. I think she may wrongfully have seperated and lied to her son about his father. She may have feared losing custody of her son to him when she was battling addiction.
This the only comment that makes sense
A woman scorned… I atop am here after watching Billy Garland interview… I’ll say it, she was a side chick of Billy’s that got pregnant. Billy got married to the woman he actually wanted and Afeni was mad and bitter. To tell your son his father is dead when that’s not the case is sickening. There is 2 sides to every story. Unfortunate Pac had to be raised in those conditions but that’s what made his music legendary
Afeni never told Tupac that Billy Garland was dead, you’ve been lied to.
She took 2pac from his father. Plain and simple. She is a great woman but people make mistakes. She kept him from his dad. She told him his dad was dead. Sad story that happens to much.
They don’t hear you bro…..they are not listening lol all respect out the window for any female that does this.
@Noellis he actually had a very rough road with his mother. She kicked him out at 16. She was a crack head. He said she always made fun of him for looking different than everyone else. I’m not calling her a bad mom but she made mistakes just like his dad did. Stop making excuses for woman only.
@@cjgray5340 I had it happen to me. Bitch took my kid and had another man sign the birth certificate and then Just took the baby and left. 2pac was a victim of being a son to a single mother. Single mother homes lead to nothing but destruction and damage.
I just don’t understand why Afeni told Pac his father was deceased. He's alive and well on the Art of Dialogue interview, (2023) which was great as well as credible.
That man did not for tupac as a child. Who needs a father once you’re a grown man???
@@0Shane13 This whole discussion was based upon her telling him as a child that his father was deceased..whether you feel that right or wrong is your opinion i will leave that alone but I definitely beg to differ tupac died at 25 years old he definitely still needed his father.
@@primetime8169 She didn’t know. And this fool didn’t take a DNA test until after Tupac died. And if he wasn’t caring for Tupac when he was a child and when he needed him most, then it was like he was dead to him.
This man needs to answer for not being there and suffer consequences for it, not applauded by delusional keyboard warriors rewriting.
And don’t give me that garbage about needing a father. That’s the a myth society tells you to make you feel inferior. Because you don’t fit societal expectations. This is America, work hard and be all you can be,
Afeni erred on this BIG TIME! It's forgivable as it appears she was a woman scorned, but as Men we find this act almost unforgivable by Afeni. God bless their Souls. Billy Garland is a good man, may God continue to bless him and his children.
Billy Garland stated in his interview that they broke up and he got married & she was mad that he didn't "have time"... to me that sounds like he was prioritizing his new family & most likely she felt a way about it, AS SHE SHOULD. Just because you marry another woman doesn't mean your children now have to work around you & your new wife's schedule.. Im sure there's alot of shit that went down that pissed Afeni off.. & Billy Garland said those words about him being busy, not me.. LOL.
@@lateiro6845 It's NOT about "prioritizing" your previous kid over your current family. It's about making it work. I've done it with my 5 kids(3 baby mamas), and of course the mother ALWAYS feel some type of way, one of them made my daughter call her step father DADDY, and to this day she( my daughter) STILL hates it. You can't choose how much time men spend with their kids, we have to move on, work and find a different life away from you and sadly the kid/kids. I've been in ALL my kids life and STILL am, of course I can't be there for EVERYTHING because I am NOT the mother nor custodial parent. My pops wasn't there except birthdays and holidays when I was growing up, not once did my mother EVER talk ish about him, and my stepfather was just that, a STEP FATHER, nothing more, nothing less. I appreciate and love my mother for her civility.
🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ 🏃♂️ straight to the comments after Pacs Father's interview😂😂😂
Lets just not assume 2pacs father wasn't there at all. we dont know how his father & moms relationship was behind the scenes ! i do know most women will use the child as a road block ! for the child to not have a relationship with the father ! not too mention what ever family members or friends who dont like the father takes the mothers side very easily ! So dont be so quick to think Pacs father wasnt shiii !
2pac said no love from my daddy cos the coward wasn't there, as far as i know Afeni didn't write pacs lyrics, dude wasn't there
@@TheFumbert that lyric was in reference to Legs not Billy.
@@TheFumbert he was also lied to about his father by afeni. Your thought off a song is wack. Again he went through life being lied to by his his mom saying he was dead. You get it now ha.
@@TheFumbert he didn’t know who his father was she lied and told him it was another man who was a drug dealer that was murdered
@@sleepydean781, Why didn't Tupac's father take Afenie to court for visitation rights? Why didn't he put himself on child support? Why did he not fight for custody of his son? Tupac has never spoke negatively about his biological father or mother. He did an Mtv interview about meeting Billy in the hospital after he was shot. He never spoke negatively about him. He seemed happy to have met him. I don't think Afenie spoke bad about Mr Garland. I just don't think she was ever in a relationship with him and knew not to expect anything from him. He was never required to step up, so he did not. Afenie never put him on child support. Afenie never stopped him from coming to the hospital. She said she was not sure who Tupac Dad was. The guy who did step up in some capacity passed away. That was who they acknowledged as Tupac's father. The person who showed up in his childhood not Mr Garland.
Powerful #ripafeni #legendary
This video is a painful watch. How could a person could be so bitter, greedy and self absorbed she tells so much defaming lies in print eternally ruining her reputation
Its sadens to hear Afeni go in about Mr. Garland and his errorrs as father but leave out her own. Truth be told according to Pac, neither parent was there like a parent should be. As parents none of us are perfect, but DO NOT tear down the absent parent to lift yourself up. Just sad... I'm glad that Pac got the chance to bond and know his real father.
Pac wasn't stupid. If he thought Billy was misunderstood he'd definitely have wrote about it
Right. Pac's father came to him November 1994. Pac left in September 1996 and within those 2 years Pac never said anything bad about him. Trust and believe if Pac didn't fuck with you he let it be known to the world. I think Pac was very grateful to meet his father and loved him.
Billy Garland sued Tupac estate for half after his death. I remember Omar Epps talking about him and Pac bonded over having absent biological fathers. In Omar book his father came around when he was in Juice and tried to build a relationship with him. But beforehand Omar remember his mother working for board of education and being a principal and how when he would walk home when his mom was working late, he would run into Muslims because his father was Muslim they would say he looked like his father and one day somebody took him to his father as a teenager and his father didn't receive him well. But after Juice came out his father came looking for him. Billy Garland was a black panther and unfortunately let me say that world is small just like the Muslim world and everybody close knit. Ain't no way per Afeni sister Gloria, everybody else was able to find Afeni and Pac by going to the Panthers especially when Afeni went through her drug issues but somehow Billy Garland who is an ex Panther couldn't find her and his son until he saw Juice but his words not mine his friend told him he saw the movie therefore it would mean he knew Tupac name and he knew Afeni too.
People want to discredit Afeni and what she went through raising Pac and sister but give Billy a pass when he came around after Pac blew up. Where was he when Pac was in the school of fine arts, living the projects and living with an mother who was also part of the panther and if you watch his interviews he actually admits he was on drugs really bad and was unable to maintain a relationship with Tupac. Everybody know how drug addicts disappear and pop up. More than likely he was on and off drugs untill he saw his son on the big screen with some money and now he want to be a father just like Omar Epps father did him. 😢
The irony in this here’s a woman who was a blk panther fighting for the rights of blk ppl yet alienating and ruining 2 blk male relationship this y’all queen tho
Good point unfortunately
Here after the art of dialogue interview with Billy Garland
If you look closely ... the book is written by Jasmine Guy. Not the words of Afeni. She just reading someone elses perspective. This is disturbing to me..
I gotta remember Afeni was a dope fiend so it makes sense she was a bad mother
If billy never met afina, she wouldn’t even kno Tupac
That doesn't defeat the fact that he didn't put in any effort to be in Tupac's life most of the time before fame so he came back when his son got famous to get profit off oh his name.
That’s cool, that’s from her perspective but she doesn’t know how much time him and his son spent together in between time… not saying he’s entitled to any money but there’s more to the story than what she knows.
Billy knew the entire time that Tupac was his son and knew how to get in touch with him because him and his mom knew the same people.
When he found out he was in a movie did he show any interest or let his other kids know Tupac existed.
He went on his way and would've kept going if Tupac didn't become famous.
Afeni was just like most of these Modern Day Women today 98% of them are liars.
Exactly. Just a one-sided story to gain sympathy. Now did she state that she slept with multiple men around the time 2Pac was conceived.
I agree
@@laurensmith5076 Pickme that’s never been picked.
Well, men can be shitty.
You know this is a SHAME…. A crying shame this woman put these lies out. How… and so convincingly
I respect afeni and all BUT she ain't right for bashing this man in front of everyone when she knew damn well who Pacs father was that whole time. I'm sure she kept him from seeing pac.
So what TF do you respect about this deceptive, lying ass woman?
Pretty sure this video was posted in response to the art of dialogue video with Billy garland
Yeah shows her true colors
@@amaddenmind4597 well it’s not like she posted it herself lol. She’s not alive.
Pac should have never been lied to about his father. Period...
All respect to Afeni Shakur and may she rest in peace, but after hearing Billy's side of story, it is obvious that he was lied to. Pac loved his biological father. A lot of times women use kids to manipulate or stress out the fathers just because things didn't work out in their favor, and this case is one of them. As Pac mentioned in many of his songs that Afeni was a crack addict and wasn't stable and she moved around a lot because of her political ties. Billy Garland raised his other children and I don't think he'd have a problem raising Pac. People should always listen to both sides of the story before labelling anybody as a deadbeat.