Greetings from Lithuania! We use theese engines in our locomotives. Really good engines. Main dissadvantage is oil tubing next to turbos. Sometimes they don't stand pressure and vibrations and starts pouring hot oil on engine exaust collector... Thats how i got fire on engine section couple days ago. Im not the first one tho. Also metal quality is funny too. We had about 5 or 7 accidents when piston brakes thru the block litterally goes outside the engine... I remenber climbing a steep hill with heavy freight train (back when i was helper) and then onboard computer showed message about hot exaust gas temperature. So i went to engine room to check it and i saw alot of smoke ans piston laying on the floor next to a block with huge hole in it. That was very surprising to say at least. But overall engine is good. :)
Thought i'd see the heads being reconditioned or the crank being polished or the deck being skimmed but no...nothing! It sure sounded good after the re build.....oh yeah you didn't start it so we could hear it , did ya? 🙄
That is a 3516 4EK EIS model. I have one of them and 7 older 3RC mag engines mine have over 225,000 hours (installed in late 80s, run ever since) and have never required going to a machine shop, we rebuild them in place. heads every 2 years, cylinders and pistons every 8 years, bearings halfway thru the pistons life. Actually swapping them out is a waste of time, if properly maintained they will literally go forever, even on sour gas.
Our farm used to have one of these gen sets! My dad and grandpa decided to switch to a micro turbine generator. It gives power AND provides heat to the main house and stable.
Video is way too short. You skipped way too many parts. Interesting subject but,the time lapse format ruined it. Be nice if someone would make a comprehensive video series on these 35 series engine overhauls with a good combination of narration and actual footage of work being done,along with footage of first start/running and dyno test and numbers. It would also be great for your business as well to show the care taken to bring these giants back to life. Might be worth having a videographer/editor on staff for this. Just my .02
G3516c is having a crankcase pressure off 16kpa, done compression and valve lash, the crankcase explosion valve pops like every 10mins, the breather is checked okay, it stops and run smoothly if oil refill cap is removed.... Assist on way forward
Really just glossed over the rebuild. I'd love to see more of the machine work and what some of the torque specs are on bearing caps, head bolts etc. How many man hours are in the rebuild would also interest me.
We had several 3500 series on gen sets. Mainly 8's and 16's. We would do a top end between 8 and 10,000 hours. Would favor the 8 if possible. These were all 1800 RPM.Of course in changing out the heads we would look for any problems in the cylinders.We had continual problems with the rear support bearing on the 3516 gen going south.This would happen under 1000 hours. This was a roller bearing that simply would not take the heat.We also installed the first 3616 in a ship as main propulsion. This was about 1990.We pulled out a 3612 that would eat itself every couple of hundred hours. Mainly piston seizing. The 3600 series was an 11 plus inch bore engine max RPM was as remember 1200. I might be wrong on that RPM, it may be lower.
Hmm. I do work and have a vast hands on experience on Caterpillar diesel and natural gas engines in power generation and earthmoving construction machines. Caterpillar 3600 series is designed on medium speed specially in power generation on 720 RPM only. This series has four members 3606, 3608, 3612 and 3616 in different application designed on various RPM range. Besides power generation, locomotive, oil & gas. A special member is also available in Marine application only 3618 V18 engine. All engines is designed on 11 inch cylinder bore. Caterpillar 3500 series 6.7 inch bore Caterpillar 3400 series 5.4 inch bore. C15 has same bore even same cylinder liners. C16 has 140 mm bore and C18 has 145 mm. Caterpillar 3300 series has 4.75 inch cylinder bore Caterpillar 3200 series has 4.5 inch cylinder bore Caterpillar old is gold D346, D348, D349 diesel engines has also 5.4 inch / 137 mm cylinder bore
Isn't that bath for the engine block caustic instead of acid? Mike Rowe's Dirty Jobs went to a locomotive rebuild shop one time, and they said it was caustic enough to turn you into a puddle of snot if you fell in.
Hi William. Do you have a way I can contact you? I have 2 Cat 903 engines powering my boat. One of them I think needs a new oil pressure sensor. I’ve looked all over the engines and on Google and I just can’t find them. I’m in Alaska so everything takes a week at least to get here. Chloe.
Karl Braun You’re right it is a Cummins 903. Maybe that’s why I can’t find a dang thing about it. The guy I had look at it told me it was a Caterpillar marine diesel 😐🤬
a superb display of detailed craftmanship in each and every facet...Wish one could hear and see it fire up for the first time into ‘extended Life’ !! Well done...
Dear CAT 3516 V16 diesel engine is member of 3500 superceded series which is bigger, most reliable and powerful engine as compared to predecessor CAT D399 V16 engine. CAT 3512 diesel V12 engine is also superceded of D398 V12 engine. Cat 3500 series is designed on 170 mm cylinder bore & 190 mm Stroke as compared to 160 mm cylinder bore in D379 V8, D398 V12 and D399 V16 engine respectively. Also I believe D300 diesel and natural gas engines are designed on 1000 RPM as compared to CAT 3500 series are 1200 rpm in petroleum field and 1500 - 1800 rpm in industrial engines / power generation.
Hmm it's a natural gas fired CAT G3516 engine usually due major overhaul on service meter units about 45,000 to 50,000 hours. On the other hand same engine in diesel fuel can run about 16,000 to 18,000 hours due to high sulphur content in diesel and load rating.
TheBlaggert the natural gas engines are mostly used in gen sets, but the diesel 3516 is used for power generation, marine applications, and a number of Cat’s larger mining applications.
Depends on if diesel or natural gas. The ones I build are powering Ariel compressor packages to deliver natural gas to gathering stations downstream from the compressor stations
Easily... matter of fact they like NG and digester methane better than diesel. Run longer, not as many issues. Have rebuilt a many 3512 and 3516 that fan on alternate fuels.
Most times it is aspirated into the intake, and instead of injectors they have a spark plug in the injectors position a very big spark plug. There is also a version where NG or digester gas is substituted along with diesel. As the ECM ramps up the NG it reduces the diesel the engine uses.
@@Harley04 while a diesel may run away if it gets stray gas. This is NOT why diesel engines run away! They generally run away because of things like a broken oil line and the engine running off the oil in the sump or a turbo seal blown and the engine ingesting the oil and running on it, or the governor fails wide open and causes the engine to run away. or a busted oil cooler and or intercooler and oil ingestion. The key to a diesel running away id they tend to run uncontrollably on their own oil. it would be extremely hard for them to catch a whiff of natural gas in open air and run away like this.
You can completely overhaul one for about a quarter of the price of a new one. I just finished my 3rd zero hour overhaul on one this year still have 5 more to do for one customer
Actually not as big of an issue as you would think, they took them off as a unit in the video but the heads are actually individual to each cylinder making "in-frame" or "in building" repairs much easier and manageable. If you look up head removal for this family of engine you'll see that from their 8 cylinder to their 32 cylinder(I think) they utilize the same design.
This video could've been an hour and I would still watch every second.
Greetings from Lithuania! We use theese engines in our locomotives. Really good engines. Main dissadvantage is oil tubing next to turbos. Sometimes they don't stand pressure and vibrations and starts pouring hot oil on engine exaust collector... Thats how i got fire on engine section couple days ago. Im not the first one tho. Also metal quality is funny too. We had about 5 or 7 accidents when piston brakes thru the block litterally goes outside the engine... I remenber climbing a steep hill with heavy freight train (back when i was helper) and then onboard computer showed message about hot exaust gas temperature. So i went to engine room to check it and i saw alot of smoke ans piston laying on the floor next to a block with huge hole in it. That was very surprising to say at least. But overall engine is good. :)
Thought i'd see the heads being reconditioned or the crank being polished or the deck being skimmed but no...nothing! It sure sounded good after the re build.....oh yeah you didn't start it so we could hear it , did ya? 🙄
TheRebelOne Gas engine, nothing to hear
Wonderful video explaining how you do these incredible jobs without giving away the secrets.
That's impressive! I love to see complicated machines brought back into glory by skilled craftsman!
Lot of time and effort gone into that rebuild great job
That is a 3516 4EK EIS model. I have one of them and 7 older 3RC mag engines mine have over 225,000 hours (installed in late 80s, run ever since) and have never required going to a machine shop, we rebuild them in place. heads every 2 years, cylinders and pistons every 8 years, bearings halfway thru the pistons life. Actually swapping them out is a waste of time, if properly maintained they will literally go forever, even on sour gas.
Dja know what would be super cool, is multiple vids that actually show the work being done!
@@hirkimerwilberfart2413 Hey! Thanks! I have a 3408 that I'm going to have to tear into one of these days.
I'm plaining on putting one in my Honda Civic lol jk
nopee i need putting mivec diesel 4g93t 😂
Amazing job
Our farm used to have one of these gen sets! My dad and grandpa decided to switch to a micro turbine generator.
It gives power AND provides heat to the main house and stable.
Good video. Lousy music. Would have been nice to hear all the shop work going on and to hear the engine too.
I agree!! .
that things burnin landfill gas! I'd recognize that siloxane buildup anywhere lol
I wouldn't mind a more elaborate vid, lasting several minutes longer.........your work looks excellent!
no they cant do that. then we all would be re-building out 3516's instead of taking it in.
Check out kt3406e's channel
Video is way too short. You skipped way too many parts. Interesting subject but,the time lapse format ruined it. Be nice if someone would make a comprehensive video series on these 35 series engine overhauls with a good combination of narration and actual footage of work being done,along with footage of first start/running and dyno test and numbers. It would also be great for your business as well to show the care taken to bring these giants back to life. Might be worth having a videographer/editor on staff for this. Just my .02
How many man hours did this take to complete?
Generator set or is it off a machine digger etc ??
That's a cute engine
What clean valves!! What does that gem run on?
I could really use one of those tools for pulling 1 full bank of heads at once when I'm working on the 3516s
G3516c is having a crankcase pressure off 16kpa, done compression and valve lash, the crankcase explosion valve pops like every 10mins, the breather is checked okay, it stops and run smoothly if oil refill cap is removed.... Assist on way forward
Really just glossed over the rebuild. I'd love to see more of the machine work and what some of the torque specs are on bearing caps, head bolts etc. How many man hours are in the rebuild would also interest me.
140 ft lb on main caps, + 180 degrees after that. Head bolts are 148 + 180
you men are fast.
What does that go in?
We had several 3500 series on gen sets. Mainly 8's and 16's. We would do a top end between 8 and 10,000 hours. Would favor the 8 if possible. These were all 1800 RPM.Of course in changing out the heads we would look for any problems in the cylinders.We had continual problems with the rear support bearing on the 3516 gen going south.This would happen under 1000 hours. This was a roller bearing that simply would not take the heat.We also installed the first 3616 in a ship as main propulsion. This was about 1990.We pulled out a 3612 that would eat itself every couple of hundred hours. Mainly piston seizing. The 3600 series was an 11 plus inch bore engine max RPM was as remember 1200. I might be wrong on that RPM, it may be lower.
Hmm. I do work and have a vast hands on experience on Caterpillar diesel and natural gas engines in power generation and earthmoving construction machines.
Caterpillar 3600 series is designed on medium speed specially in power generation on 720 RPM only. This series has four members 3606, 3608, 3612 and 3616 in different application designed on various RPM range.
Besides power generation, locomotive, oil & gas. A special member is also available in Marine application only 3618 V18 engine. All engines is designed on 11 inch cylinder bore.
Caterpillar 3500 series 6.7 inch bore
Caterpillar 3400 series 5.4 inch bore. C15 has same bore even same cylinder liners. C16 has 140 mm bore and C18 has 145 mm.
Caterpillar 3300 series has 4.75 inch cylinder bore
Caterpillar 3200 series has 4.5 inch cylinder bore
Caterpillar old is gold D346, D348, D349 diesel engines has also 5.4 inch / 137 mm cylinder bore
Where can I get an engine turning jack?
1:25... good ol’ break time
Whacko music, always a treat.
Awesome. 16cyl. teardown/rebuild w/ hot acid bath.
Aí da gosto MT bacana.
Don't need crazy music
Stopped at the sound of music.
Looks like it runs off propane?
Rebuilt plenty of those
Top das galáxias.
Caterpillar
Great video, but can you take your time and cover a few more details next time? An engine of that magnitude deserves more details.
Looks almost the same as the GM locomotive engines when I worked in a loco shop.
Block con insertos en los conductos de refrigeración a las culatas. Un error que produce fugas y aumento de reparaciones 💪🏻🧐🇨🇱
Cat Reman, Corinth, MS
Isn't that bath for the engine block caustic instead of acid? Mike Rowe's Dirty Jobs went to a locomotive rebuild shop one time, and they said it was caustic enough to turn you into a puddle of snot if you fell in.
i am thinking it isnt acid but actually caustic.
That acid bath looked kinda scary 😮
The local quarry lets you dump bodies in there for $500 each.
I got two of these bad boys I’m the bottom of the tug boat I’m working on, they sing beautifully
So we have to listen to that crap music the entire video?
If you was WOKE,you would mute the sound LMFAO kids these day
WOW!! Thanks!!! I had no idea that was a possibility.... (sarcasm)
If I'm a kid, you must be a marijuana smoking infant.
What are the torque specs on those head bolts? 1500 ft-lbs?
145ft lbs then 180 degree turn
Which Cat facility is this I work at one of the ones in Ms
Australian one of them...
Hi William.
Do you have a way I can contact you? I have 2 Cat 903 engines powering my boat. One of them I think needs a new oil pressure sensor. I’ve looked all over the engines and on Google and I just can’t find them. I’m in Alaska so everything takes a week at least to get here.
Chloe.
Are you sure it's a CAT 903 not a CUMMINS 903? I never heard of a CAT 903, but CUMMINS had a 903 series many years ago that was popular.
Karl Braun You’re right it is a Cummins 903. Maybe that’s why I can’t find a dang thing about it. The guy I had look at it told me it was a Caterpillar marine diesel 😐🤬
@@@chloehennessey6813 Check with a CUMMINS dealer, and he can probably help you find the part you need.
@@chloehennessey6813 you lucked out. Cummins way better than a cat
A more detailed video please
And just like that, a cat was born.
they didn't regrind the crank or the camshafts? Presumably they did, but they skipped a lot of interesting stuff when they made this video.
hmmm usually run these specific shafts more than 100,000 hours under preventive recommended maintenance schedule and SOS.
a superb display of detailed craftmanship in each and every facet...Wish one could hear and see it fire up for the first time into ‘extended Life’ !! Well done...
how much would a job like this cost ? where do they do that ?
$6000.00 a hole roughly.
The Amazing OZ
video ruined by music
Is the d399 smaller or bigger than this unit? I worked around d398 & d399's in the oil fields years ago.
Dear CAT 3516 V16 diesel engine is member of 3500 superceded series which is bigger, most reliable and powerful engine as compared to predecessor CAT D399 V16 engine. CAT 3512 diesel V12 engine is also superceded of D398 V12 engine.
Cat 3500 series is designed on 170 mm cylinder bore & 190 mm Stroke as compared to 160 mm cylinder bore in D379 V8, D398 V12 and D399 V16 engine respectively. Also I believe D300 diesel and natural gas engines are designed on 1000 RPM as compared to CAT 3500 series are 1200 rpm in petroleum field and 1500 - 1800 rpm in industrial engines / power generation.
great work
We used these for Gas Compression drivers ,Our gen packs were 399s with 400 kw all engines were natural gas
I was wondering why the valves had that whitish look to them. I then noticed that this engine is running on natural gas.
Wow nice work
I love this, please
whyyyyyy is this vid 2 minutes long. Could have easily been 25 minutes and with NO music
this engine are diesel or natural gas?
Diesel
It is a natural gas Caterpillar G3516 V16 engine nor diesel
how many hours did that take ?
Hmm it's a natural gas fired CAT G3516 engine usually due major overhaul on service meter units about 45,000 to 50,000 hours.
On the other hand same engine in diesel fuel can run about 16,000 to 18,000 hours due to high sulphur content in diesel and load rating.
@@zeeshan_engineering_services i think he meant how long did the rebuild take, but thats cool info too
@@miatafan thanks a lot.
My unit is a Nat gas Cogeneration cat 3516 / 815kw 38560 hrs
costei🖒
Good video 'cept for the music. Watched it muted.
will i need new motor mounts if i put this in my silverado?
George Strickland nah just polish em with some WD40 and youll be fine
it should bolt right up ! if not napa makes an adapter plate for $19.95 .
Are these used mostly in Gen-sets?
TheBlaggert the natural gas engines are mostly used in gen sets, but the diesel 3516 is used for power generation, marine applications, and a number of Cat’s larger mining applications.
@@33100Gman thanks for the reply. Living in N.Ireland we don't see many engines of this size
TheBlaggert anytime!
Depends on if diesel or natural gas. The ones I build are powering Ariel compressor packages to deliver natural gas to gathering stations downstream from the compressor stations
Damn 🧐
Beautiful!!$👍🍷🍺
this terrible music is killing the video....
How can you run a diesel engine on natural gas?
Easily... matter of fact they like NG and digester methane better than diesel. Run longer, not as many issues. Have rebuilt a many 3512 and 3516 that fan on alternate fuels.
@@marcredwine8735
Didn't know this. How is it done. Is the gas aspirated through the inlet or injected in some way?
Most times it is aspirated into the intake, and instead of injectors they have a spark plug in the injectors position a very big spark plug. There is also a version where NG or digester gas is substituted along with diesel. As the ECM ramps up the NG it reduces the diesel the engine uses.
In fact, this is how you get runaway engines, say at a drilling site and there is gas around, they go like crazy! @@marcredwine8735
@@Harley04 while a diesel may run away if it gets stray gas. This is NOT why diesel engines run away! They generally run away because of things like a broken oil line and the engine running off the oil in the sump or a turbo seal blown and the engine ingesting the oil and running on it, or the governor fails wide open and causes the engine to run away. or a busted oil cooler and or intercooler and oil ingestion. The key to a diesel running away id they tend to run uncontrollably on their own oil. it would be extremely hard for them to catch a whiff of natural gas in open air and run away like this.
How much compared to a new one?
Anyone
You can completely overhaul one for about a quarter of the price of a new one. I just finished my 3rd zero hour overhaul on one this year still have 5 more to do for one customer
Would of been good to hear it dyno'd, but otherwise good clip guys
Port match and polish
it's like the acid isn't enough. it has to be bubbling acid
my cousin works for cat on the excavator team at the mdc in arizona
I am installing a generator like this on a job
the American "TDI" :D
I came thinking this would be a interesting video.
Cat no1
show the machining
A horribly irritating and distracting soundtrack like this just means they insist you watch it with the soundtrack turned off. Right?
Cat engine power full 🌝🌝🌕🌝
I wonder what they do about cracked heads.
Actually not as big of an issue as you would think, they took them off as a unit in the video but the heads are actually individual to each cylinder making "in-frame" or "in building" repairs much easier and manageable. If you look up head removal for this family of engine you'll see that from their 8 cylinder to their 32 cylinder(I think) they utilize the same design.
Replace them.
If that's not the thickest head gasket I've ever seen...
Wait till you see drag racing head gaskets. They use thick copper ones.
What you saw was the spacer plate. The head gaskets are really not that thick
That wasn't a head gasket it was just a space plate
محركات الكتر بلر جيده لاكن محركات الكومنز جيده جدا وقويه وعمرها طويل
Loose the music we are here for the job.
Dang I came here for machining. Disappointed 😔.
just put it to mute and put britney spears singing live would be better audio and great video you have
Will it fit in my Honda?
هاي التحديات هذآ العلم الذي يفتخر النسان به خوما أمير بروز
how long its life will last?
The dude on 1:03 looks like Bono.
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Would rather hear the engine
Join Army. You might hear one of these beasts allllll night powering your camp.
About how much might one have to Shell out to buy a CAT 3508 disel V8?
I'm going to have my friend and he was like
tell us more
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The music ruins this video for me
well that's what the mute button is for
nice music