I had a friend that went to a camp like that in the 90’s, he later committed suicide. His parents were unhinged and mentally and physically abused. I wholly believe that the camp was responsible for his death.
I've always wondered about those camps. If it could be considered self-defense to bust out of there by any means necessary, including by hurting the people locking you in and stealing their cars or whatever else you can get your hands on.
I think some of them, at the minimum, are a kind of legalization of abuse. I don't know how those people can destroy young ones, make them believe that and still look at themselves in the mirror
That 3rd story infuriated me to no end. OP, when you turn 18, you make an exit plan. DO NOT let your parents try to isolate you from your brother. They will try EVERYTHING in their power to destroy your life. When you leave, Freeze Your Credit. They may try to take out loans in your name. They will also try to track you down and harrass you. Get a restraining order when that starts, and if they escalate, look into firearm laws if you live in the US and arm yourself if you can. Also, take self-defense classes. That way you know how to handle things it it gets physical. Make sure your brother is also armed and trained. Narcissists will do whatever it takes to get what they want, and if they can't get what they want, they'll start trying to destroy your lives outright. And if that doesn't work, they might try something far worse.
It sounds like Bro is already on the ball. They tried to take her money, he puts it in an account solely in HIS name, so they can't touch it. He continues posting videos for her, so her sponsors don't drop her, bro is solidly one step ahead of their parents.
God the third story is smth out of a horror story. The worst part is ive heard of camps like that multiple times before. Her brother probably saved her life, i can't imagine how she would have gotten out of there otherwise. This is the kind of abuse that leads a teen to suicide.
Story 1: i am not a fan of the wife. Tells Kate about her husband’s fetishes (something he admitted he didn’t like and something that Kate was using against him and using to stir the pot), is lied to by Kate and got mad for a week and then confronted her husband, saying that her HUSBAND is the one making this weird, needed internet comments to help her realize that Kate is the problem
Idk, both people seem to xross boundries most couples wouldnt. He openly admits to wondering about ither peoples nakedness in q discussion with another woman. They both seem to talk too much
3rd story, let’s hope to everything these parents, the camp, and the people that “couldn’t help” don’t find the Reddit story. I’m terrified of what they would do if they find out she is getting the help that they didn’t want her to have…
"Women are better at communicating than men" *wife was angry for a week before telling husband* Also, GJ wife, telling your friends about your husband's fetishes.
A man who does not want something with you, maybe a night or two, would tell his mates about you If he is serious about you, the only thing his mates would know, is that, you have been dating for 6/7/8 months by now (If a guy have *that* type of relationship with his mates) A girl, would tell all from the first date (well, most girl will, according to what I've read) If she becomes serious with that guy, she would paint him, in a very, extra good light for her friends BUT Divulging intimate knowledge/details..... that would take you earning the triple gold star friend status It seems like the OP's wife, had this girl for so long, that she never put two and two together The messages the OP's friends' wife, sent to the OP, was clearly talking about him, but trying NOT to sound as if she was... And it seemed like, she's done this plenty of times before, and was so comfy in doing it, that she'd long ago stop thinking of it as being wrong or worry about it She was testing the water, to see if she could NOW take the husband away from her ''friend'' The OP stated her wife ddnt have any friends, or very few friends, or something along the line I'd bet anyone a million dollars that the OP's wife, lack of friendship was hindered//meddled into/ cut off from the *friend* Read the story again But this time, read between the lines (especially the messages the friend sent to OP) And after reading through the lines, read the story in a normal way again... you'll get it Last thing The OP is hot and husband material, the wife's friends thinks so... smh to this though... cause, Kate is superficial at ''best'' and the OP's wife is clearly not
A lot of men abuse, cheat, and murder, over being angry with their wives on trivial matters with little discussion; way more than women do in most countries. But Yes, a wife stewing for a week over whether she should or shouldn't confront her husband with something her friend brought up is something all 3.5 billion women do and it's peak poor communication.
A good Christian wouldn't make you write down reasons that you should hate yourself especially to a child, I believe Christians should be loving and compassionate. Christianity essentially means Christ-like, Jesus wouldn't hate on anyone especially a child. OP's parents and this so called Christian camp is the reason why so many people see Christians as self-righteous and bigoted haters. It's not right. OP I wish you all the best and God bless you and your brother and that you get away from your toxic parents.
I myself don't understand the whole foot fetish thing. That doesn't mean I'm going to hang or drag people's names through the dirt if they have that kind of fetish, Kate is just someone who likes to cause trouble in others relationships.
America is a truly psychotic country for having camps like that and enforcing no standards for children's protection. I can understand if parents have a very violent and very dangerous kid or an addict who needs a sort-of shock therapy to get their shit together, but even then there should be verification process of what the child needs (and if anything at all!) as well as set of standards what is and isn't allowed for the therapists/counsellors to do. Camps should only hire licensed and SANE individuals to work with the kids. Instead, they straight up abuse (if not torture) and traumatize kids... They teach them nothing but fear and subjugation. I'd be not surprised if the kids who left the camps turned out even worse and seeking revenge to inflict it upon whomever they can.
That foot fetish thing... friends feel like they need clarification as to what is right and wrong. I, being super naive, agreed to some random getting off on my feet. When I look back, wow. It feels soooooo unreal.
ST1 The friend group getting rid of Kate, let me guess she was also sending raunchy photos, videos and message to the partners of the friend group which is why they’re done with her bs.
The last story is why I’ll never fault a child for resorting to violence against their parents in these situations. The way women and girls are mistreated all to maintain the status quo is disgusting.
Story 3 I had a friend who sent to one of those camps he never came back actually found out years later that they basically murdered him because they stopped feeding him in fact his brother almost killed their dad because of it
Story number 3 if they take your property away all you have to do is keep receipts for everything you bought keep them with you or in a box where they can't find them label each one of the receipts what it's for so that you'll know and if they take those items away and don't give them back you can sue them for those items you can also have them arrested for stealing them they have to give them back by law I know this from a lawyer friend of mine, plus I'm going to tell you what my cousin did she had problems with her stepfather she wanted to get rid of him do you know what she did she went and hit her naked back with a belt and left a bunch of marks on it and then had a friend of hers along with her word testified to the cops that her stepfather beat her and molested her and he's still in jail today I'm not telling you to do that I'm just telling you what my cousin did LOL
Story 1. There's no reason for OP and Kate to have been engaging in those conversations. He should've seen this coming based on her ends of the text exchanges.
It seems like they are friends or know each other for a long time. So talking about weard stuff to relate to what she is feeling is just a man thing. I know it sounds creepy. But that's how some men console someone, by saying something weird, sincer and personal, so the person that's talking with them feel secure and not feel like their thoughts are bad, and invalid. "Yeah I am same as you, I have bad thinking". It's like saying you are not alone, everybody has this kind of thoughts. The complimenting the art, and getting shat on. Was a personal reminder. I complemented a friend girlfriend hobby. I was really happy and amazed by her progress that people though I was flirting with her. But I just wanted to encourage her to continue because I thought she was talented.(Boyfriend knew me well so he was on my side).
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In 3rd story, brother is the GOAT here
I had a friend that went to a camp like that in the 90’s, he later committed suicide. His parents were unhinged and mentally and physically abused. I wholly believe that the camp was responsible for his death.
I've always wondered about those camps. If it could be considered self-defense to bust out of there by any means necessary, including by hurting the people locking you in and stealing their cars or whatever else you can get your hands on.
I think some of them, at the minimum, are a kind of legalization of abuse.
I don't know how those people can destroy young ones, make them believe that and still look at themselves in the mirror
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And he's name was Jason Vorhes
Wife's last comment to Kate was fucking genius :D
So glad I wasn't carrying something fragile, cause I burst out laughing!
That 3rd story infuriated me to no end. OP, when you turn 18, you make an exit plan. DO NOT let your parents try to isolate you from your brother. They will try EVERYTHING in their power to destroy your life. When you leave, Freeze Your Credit. They may try to take out loans in your name. They will also try to track you down and harrass you. Get a restraining order when that starts, and if they escalate, look into firearm laws if you live in the US and arm yourself if you can. Also, take self-defense classes. That way you know how to handle things it it gets physical. Make sure your brother is also armed and trained. Narcissists will do whatever it takes to get what they want, and if they can't get what they want, they'll start trying to destroy your lives outright. And if that doesn't work, they might try something far worse.
It sounds like Bro is already on the ball. They tried to take her money, he puts it in an account solely in HIS name, so they can't touch it. He continues posting videos for her, so her sponsors don't drop her, bro is solidly one step ahead of their parents.
God the third story is smth out of a horror story. The worst part is ive heard of camps like that multiple times before. Her brother probably saved her life, i can't imagine how she would have gotten out of there otherwise. This is the kind of abuse that leads a teen to suicide.
#3
"We don't know why our children don't talk to us"
Story 1: i am not a fan of the wife. Tells Kate about her husband’s fetishes (something he admitted he didn’t like and something that Kate was using against him and using to stir the pot), is lied to by Kate and got mad for a week and then confronted her husband, saying that her HUSBAND is the one making this weird, needed internet comments to help her realize that Kate is the problem
Idk, both people seem to xross boundries most couples wouldnt. He openly admits to wondering about ither peoples nakedness in q discussion with another woman. They both seem to talk too much
The whole friend group seems like a bunch of degenerate.
I mean how does the hentai and the foot fetish came in a conversation
The third story makes me ill, I hope the OP finds peace and healing
3rd story, let’s hope to everything these parents, the camp, and the people that “couldn’t help” don’t find the Reddit story. I’m terrified of what they would do if they find out she is getting the help that they didn’t want her to have…
Just making things more awkward says the woman whos friend asked you for a pair of socks when a guy got to "his" home.
The third story is basically the brother is like WELCOME TO AMERICA
"Women are better at communicating than men"
*wife was angry for a week before telling husband*
Also, GJ wife, telling your friends about your husband's fetishes.
They’re better at manipulating and gaslighting, not to mention weaponizing words and actions.
If you tell a woman something, you’ve told the world.
The legendary response to being asked what the problem is: "Well, you should know!" followed by a week of huffy silence.
A man who does not want something with you, maybe a night or two, would tell his mates about you
If he is serious about you, the only thing his mates would know, is that, you have been dating for 6/7/8 months by now (If a guy have *that* type of relationship with his mates)
A girl, would tell all from the first date (well, most girl will, according to what I've read)
If she becomes serious with that guy, she would paint him, in a very, extra good light for her friends
BUT
Divulging intimate knowledge/details..... that would take you earning the triple gold star friend status
It seems like the OP's wife, had this girl for so long, that she never put two and two together
The messages the OP's friends' wife, sent to the OP, was clearly talking about him, but trying NOT to sound as if she was...
And it seemed like, she's done this plenty of times before, and was so comfy in doing it, that she'd long ago stop thinking of it as being wrong or worry about it
She was testing the water, to see if she could NOW take the husband away from her ''friend''
The OP stated her wife ddnt have any friends, or very few friends, or something along the line
I'd bet anyone a million dollars that the OP's wife, lack of friendship was hindered//meddled into/ cut off from the *friend*
Read the story again
But this time, read between the lines (especially the messages the friend sent to OP)
And after reading through the lines, read the story in a normal way again... you'll get it
Last thing
The OP is hot and husband material, the wife's friends thinks so...
smh to this though... cause, Kate is superficial at ''best'' and the OP's wife is clearly not
A lot of men abuse, cheat, and murder, over being angry with their wives on trivial matters with little discussion; way more than women do in most countries.
But Yes, a wife stewing for a week over whether she should or shouldn't confront her husband with something her friend brought up is something all 3.5 billion women do and it's peak poor communication.
Story 3:
*Some People Don't Deserve To Be Parents !!!*
LMAO that comment wife made, glad they got rid of that toxicity.
A good Christian wouldn't make you write down reasons that you should hate yourself especially to a child, I believe Christians should be loving and compassionate. Christianity essentially means Christ-like, Jesus wouldn't hate on anyone especially a child. OP's parents and this so called Christian camp is the reason why so many people see Christians as self-righteous and bigoted haters. It's not right. OP I wish you all the best and God bless you and your brother and that you get away from your toxic parents.
Story 3 : having poor parents saved her ironically
I myself don't understand the whole foot fetish thing. That doesn't mean I'm going to hang or drag people's names through the dirt if they have that kind of fetish, Kate is just someone who likes to cause trouble in others relationships.
3rd story why not call cps and report them if she not taking her medicine and doing crazy stuff
America is a truly psychotic country for having camps like that and enforcing no standards for children's protection. I can understand if parents have a very violent and very dangerous kid or an addict who needs a sort-of shock therapy to get their shit together, but even then there should be verification process of what the child needs (and if anything at all!) as well as set of standards what is and isn't allowed for the therapists/counsellors to do. Camps should only hire licensed and SANE individuals to work with the kids.
Instead, they straight up abuse (if not torture) and traumatize kids... They teach them nothing but fear and subjugation. I'd be not surprised if the kids who left the camps turned out even worse and seeking revenge to inflict it upon whomever they can.
That foot fetish thing... friends feel like they need clarification as to what is right and wrong.
I, being super naive, agreed to some random getting off on my feet. When I look back, wow. It feels soooooo unreal.
ST1
The friend group getting rid of Kate, let me guess she was also sending raunchy photos, videos and message to the partners of the friend group which is why they’re done with her bs.
That final line from wife to kate was legendary
The last story is why I’ll never fault a child for resorting to violence against their parents in these situations. The way women and girls are mistreated all to maintain the status quo is disgusting.
Story1: wife is savage, I love it
Story 3 what a freaking horror story…
Kate literally turns her back on him and implies he is going to fantasize her feet constantly. How can he make things more awkward
What the heck are they trying to do in the minecraft video in the background?
it looks like they're making a villager farm but it had me really confused too
Wife in #1 is my new hero for the day. The jag off comment was priceless
There are some problems with the wife too.
Story 3 I had a friend who sent to one of those camps he never came back actually found out years later that they basically murdered him because they stopped feeding him in fact his brother almost killed their dad because of it
Story number 3 if they take your property away all you have to do is keep receipts for everything you bought keep them with you or in a box where they can't find them label each one of the receipts what it's for so that you'll know and if they take those items away and don't give them back you can sue them for those items you can also have them arrested for stealing them they have to give them back by law I know this from a lawyer friend of mine, plus I'm going to tell you what my cousin did she had problems with her stepfather she wanted to get rid of him do you know what she did she went and hit her naked back with a belt and left a bunch of marks on it and then had a friend of hers along with her word testified to the cops that her stepfather beat her and molested her and he's still in jail today I'm not telling you to do that I'm just telling you what my cousin did LOL
Story 1. There's no reason for OP and Kate to have been engaging in those conversations. He should've seen this coming based on her ends of the text exchanges.
Then everyone clapped
1st story: bros married and telling another woman that he sometimes wonders what other women look like underneath their clothes??? 😩😭 hell nah
It seems like they are friends or know each other for a long time. So talking about weard stuff to relate to what she is feeling is just a man thing. I know it sounds creepy. But that's how some men console someone, by saying something weird, sincer and personal, so the person that's talking with them feel secure and not feel like their thoughts are bad, and invalid. "Yeah I am same as you, I have bad thinking". It's like saying you are not alone, everybody has this kind of thoughts.
The complimenting the art, and getting shat on. Was a personal reminder. I complemented a friend girlfriend hobby. I was really happy and amazed by her progress that people though I was flirting with her. But I just wanted to encourage her to continue because I thought she was talented.(Boyfriend knew me well so he was on my side).
I need the update for story 3
The last post from that account was 6 years ago.
What was the last update ?@@nehcrum
Bad idea on that last comment by his wife. Can get all the lawyers involved now. Means wife is the same as kate