The end of this, where your opponent has to reorient himself, is utter genius. I have used the fence so many times as a bouncer, but no one has ever explained it quite like this, sir. Bravo!
Bouncer , doorman and personal protection . Do your best to maintain a non threatening posture , but have your feet planted correctly and be ready to rock .
I like to put my hands up, but out front, in a "Hey, I don't want trouble" gesture. It sets up my defense, my counterattack, and reminds eyewitnesses that I didn't start the fight in which I ruthlessly harmed my attackers. It's important that you aren't seen as the aggressor. Learned this the hard way.
@@watenallace663 I learned to do this a long time ago. Witnesses don't always remember what started the fight, but they sure as Hell remembered the moment when I made a guy's nose come off his face. I barely avoided felony aggravated battery conviction on that one. I also make it a point to not raise my voice. Let your attackers do that.
Other commenters echoed my thoughts. The fence looks to onlookers that you are trying not to fight, possibly intimidated, saying hold on a second, etc. so when the cops come the spectators and cameras will portray you as the one deescalating.
I learned this gem many years ago "Your everyday stance is your fighting stance, your fighting stance is your everyday stance". Terry O'Neil, KUGB Scouse legend working the doors in the Pool and Birkenhead back in the day, couldn't get away with the naughty stuff these days.
Ditto...my hands are mangled.. can barely open my hands all the way, let alone closeit tight enough to make a fist.... my hands stay halfway open like the Kung Fu grip on an action figure
thats intresting as ive been using a similar concept working as a doorman,for a few year now after reading Thompsons version, however im open minded, who in your opinion is better and why?
I've been combining verbal judo with Tim Larkin's system as we can't expect a fair fight. It's also true that the eyes are the mirror to the soul, possibly the aura, but we usually know what's going to happen or not. Derren Brown has got some great stuff on brain scrambling.
Yelling "CALM DOWN!" will kick things off but worked into sentences more calmly should be fine. If someone's fuming it's more about energy and getting them thinking than about specific words IMO.
@@StormBringare agreed... sometimes taking things on yourself, or making things a LITTLE less black and white can help.... "I think we should maybe just calm down." or "How about we both just calm down a bit..."... that way you're not barking orders, but making a suggestion. This stuff can work well in general teaching/meeting examples as well. I enjoyed and learned a lot in this video too.
100%, your energy and attitude speak louder than your words. And intelligent communication will manage 99% of conflicts; ‘Speak softly but carry a big stick’.
It works if you say it repeatedly, have a perm, are wearing a brightly coloured shell suit and have a thick scouse accent. Seen it done on the telly before.
My dad taught me this when i was younger. Always used it. The DONT STAND SQUARE. Arms length one foot back ready with defence or attack. It’s one of the best things I was ever taught. But it does get a few odd looks from your opponent if not done exactly. They always look at your feet and expect somethings incoming but when they see your not attacking I have always found the aggressor gains more confidence. So it’s gonna kick off basically. At least it always usually did for me 🤭 tactically for me wait for your opportunity and attack fast and hard. He asked for it
Exactly, a lot of guys who start fights will try to intimidate and see how you react. The second you show any weakness ,they get even more confident. Had a friend in the same situation saying he did not want any trouble and was trying to back off and the guy went ballistic trying to knock him out until my other mate smacked him in the face and hurt him, he backed down straight away off one punch lol.
The psychological aspects of having that barrier between you is not to be overlooked. Even if it is a very subtle fence, and the opponent is not consciously aware it is a 'fence', they will still feel it as a barrier to be overcome before they can do anything, and that could be the difference between them trying and not.
🇵🇱 MUCH RESPECT 🥋 🥊 So much skill and wisdom!! I’m also thankful to gods of Martial Arts and Combat Sports for this connection with Gods of YT algorithms and finding this channel.
I had a bit of an altercation last year whilst driving in london. A guy thought I’d got him to get a ticket by forcing him to stop in a box junction behind me. What he couldn’t see was that there was a learner in front of me so I actually had no where to go. He started making violent gestures towards me in his car. We had a bit of verbal and I thought that was it. However he followed me for several miles, out of london and eventually when I stopped at a service station he pulled in behind me a few minutes later. I was more than a bit surprised. Whilst he was shouting and posturing and saying he wasn’t frightened and we should sort it out like real men. I adopted a nice relaxed fence. It quickly became clear to me that this guy was very verbal and aggressive when out of range, but less so at he got closer to me. So he basically wasn’t a threat. In this case I honestly believe being trained helped to avoid violence. If this was two posturing idiots then I’m sure there would have been physical confrontation. I was comfortable that this guy had no actual fight training, it’s amazing how I was able from behind my fence to actually run through what I was gonna do the second he got into range. Thankfully he didn’t and it all fizzled out and he left after demanding an apology, happy his manly ego had been fed. In this case the fence worked just about as well in real life as I could ever have hoped for in training. 👍👍 the one and only time I’ve ever needed it in real life and I hope the last.
Excellently done! Many of these principles are taught to law enforcement officers here in Virginia. We did move the contact distance to three arm's length from arms and a half distance. Very difficult for anyone to effectively punch from the three-arm length distance. I will be sharing this vid with my students and my fellow law enforcement instructors. Lots of excellent info and application for police and corrections officers.
I used fence and other NVPs to deescalate conflicts that were going to get violent, and they worked wonderfully. Especially fence worked like a charm when things got escalated.
Very realistic vids Sensei & I just knew from the 1st vid I saw that you understood Shotokan also 🥋😊 Terry O’Neill,Geoff Thompson etc 👏 Big thanks for your great vids,Oss🙏
Great video and great explanation on de-escalation. Even though I’ve thankfully have not been in a violent situation in many years, I train for this possibility often. The two touch rule seems to be a great way to handle a violent confrontation that will either de escalate or to be the point in which to act. Thank you.
As Tony Blauer puts it, our NVP is our modern day Trojan Horse. It aligns our weapons while attempting de-escalation (to our threat and to onlookers). This gives us legal and moral benefit and allows us to maintain an element of surprise.
Awesome explanation of the fence and the principle behind it, but does urban Combatives discuss trained people who know how to fight, who are going to have their hands up ready to go before they approach you, he’ll of a lot of ppl are training these days with the popularity of Ufc and Bjj.
great short video, well explained. I am looking to teach a group of teens some basic self defense and awareness. Watching this has helped me put some of basic techniques into words. Well done.
Lee Morrison and Graig Douglas teaching a class together would be the ultimate!!!!!! Maybe we could get Lee to cross the pond after China Virus is over...
Thanks. Discussing how not to get into an unnecessary fight through de escalation is great. I'd rather have someone who's had a bad day and wants to take it out on someone vent on someone who's in a similar state of mind. When 'the red mist' is going in someone it is hard to snap them out of that mindset... Or is there a way- short of knocking them out?
Thanks Lee. I have a question. For plan B ( Frame the head) Why do you prefer to employ a flinch response in the form of a cover as opposed to Tony Blauers spear idea? Would love others to chime in on this question also.
Very good presentation. Thank you very much. There is an excerpt from a book right in the end, but i cant make out what the model is called or the book. Can someone help me? It is that "South Marcs Contact Management", "Sarth Marcs...", "Saath..." Please help. I want to read more.
I see the sense... but I feel that putting your hand that low in the middle and out there, will only get you knocked out with a haymaker or hook around the hand and ANYONE will be too slow to stop it or react to it. My preach is; if I can touch you; so can you touch me. Hint: you don't need to be in touching distance to still connect (a good striker), so again placing yourself at that distance and hands down will get you knocked out.
All Police OST instructors will recognise this instructional video as its what we teach all cops once a year ,unfortunately not everyone gets the concept.
With some exception, from now on after my first 'street fight', I'm going to stand my ground, put my lead hand out, and if the person wades in and puts pressure on that arm, I'm cracking them immediately with a rear cross slip beside them and unload hooks til its done. I'm through backing down from bullies and there are a lot of barking dogs in this city. I'm 1-0. Check back with you later...
I’m 75, very fit very strong very active. At my age I think preemptive is the way to go. Believe or not I have ar@#£’s being aggressive towards me. I have no idea why. I don’t walk around with a scowl on my face like I’m ready to take on any @#£&*(. Maybe I’m lucky (very) that I don’t look my age. But do I seriously look like a Challenge to someone? I don’t think so. So awareness is all important for me. But if anyone came and faced up to me,I wouldn’t have time to argue. I would get at it first. Knife or Firearm excluded of course. Great vid Lee. Would like comments on my post good or bad 👍 Please bear in mind I’m not clubbing (I should be so lucky.) just pubs, walking in town with my partner, who is older than me. And of course the usual road rage incident which happens to everyone. But despite being an advanced driver,ex driving instructor. I still encounter those who think they are gods gift to driving. Never thought I would have this in later life, when I should be enjoying what remains of my life.
The end of this, where your opponent has to reorient himself, is utter genius. I have used the fence so many times as a bouncer, but no one has ever explained it quite like this, sir. Bravo!
Bouncer , doorman and personal protection . Do your best to maintain a non threatening posture , but have your feet planted correctly and be ready to rock .
I'm 38 and never been in a fight in my life, .. came close a few times but always talked my way out of it
Nothing wrong with that at all
I like to put my hands up, but out front, in a "Hey, I don't want trouble" gesture. It sets up my defense, my counterattack, and reminds eyewitnesses that I didn't start the fight in which I ruthlessly harmed my attackers. It's important that you aren't seen as the aggressor. Learned this the hard way.
You sure you didn't hear Bas Rutten say this and just repeat it?
@@watenallace663 doesn't really matter if he did. Pretty spot on regardless
Excellent advice.
@@watenallace663 I learned to do this a long time ago. Witnesses don't always remember what started the fight, but they sure as Hell remembered the moment when I made a guy's nose come off his face. I barely avoided felony aggravated battery conviction on that one. I also make it a point to not raise my voice. Let your attackers do that.
Good fences make good neighbours.
Other commenters echoed my thoughts. The fence looks to onlookers that you are trying not to fight, possibly intimidated, saying hold on a second, etc.
so when the cops come the spectators and cameras will portray you as the one deescalating.
Telegraph sending & receiving & Tailoring to suit any situation.no need to rip the arse out of situation so many factors invould.a mindfull warrior.🙏
As a correctional officer I have used the fence technique, verbal judo and proxemics to great effect
I learned this gem many years ago "Your everyday stance is your fighting stance, your fighting stance is your everyday stance". Terry O'Neil, KUGB Scouse legend working the doors in the Pool and Birkenhead back in the day, couldn't get away with the naughty stuff these days.
Originally from Sun Tzu
Ah, those halcyon evenings at the Red Triangle, then "the Samurai" dojo... with big Terry droppin' some truth bombs 👹
Love the reality, science and psychology of Lee's Teaching. Great insights on effective combat strategy.
I love the defensive but non static hands “talking Italian” approach, not seen this anywhere else.
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I'm glad I didn't meet this guy before his spiritual awakening 😂
Best fence tutorial I've seen.
Thank you very much Lee and the UC team.
You had me at the open hand strikes as my hands are to old and broken to make fists any more :)
Ditto...my hands are mangled.. can barely open my hands all the way, let alone closeit tight enough to make a fist.... my hands stay halfway open like the Kung Fu grip on an action figure
I mean sure, but this guys whole demeanour and content really says more about his internal landscape than he might realise.
Yep. It says: I can be evil incarnate.
@@MikeD-hn9hf it screams something...
Superb practical stuff!
This is absolute gold, I use "talking hands" and verbal judo, very rarely does it get physical, great tutorial as always 👌👍
thats intresting as ive been using a similar concept working as a doorman,for a few year now after reading Thompsons version, however im open minded, who in your opinion is better and why?
@Democrats Are The Modern Day Nazi Party this guy would slap you silly and you would wake up in your Caramel Latte son. Get lost
@Democrats Are The Modern Day Nazi Party Cute words and boomer. You got anymore nuggets of wisdom there Pondlife?
@Democrats Are The Modern Day Nazi Party wow you impressed me there, I thought you were below 60iq but now its at.least 62iq. Congrats fruity 💋
lol well that conversation deteriorated quickly 😁😁😁
I've been combining verbal judo with Tim Larkin's system as we can't expect a fair fight. It's also true that the eyes are the mirror to the soul, possibly the aura, but we usually know what's going to happen or not. Derren Brown has got some great stuff on brain scrambling.
Your voice, the flow of ideas, peculiar showmanship. I've learned more about self defense from this than any spat I've had. Thanks 👍
Solid class... just one thing though, I wouldn't tell a hostile to "calm down". That's not non-confrontational and usually makes them worse.
Yelling "CALM DOWN!" will kick things off but worked into sentences more calmly should be fine. If someone's fuming it's more about energy and getting them thinking than about specific words IMO.
@@StormBringare agreed... sometimes taking things on yourself, or making things a LITTLE less black and white can help.... "I think we should maybe just calm down." or "How about we both just calm down a bit..."... that way you're not barking orders, but making a suggestion. This stuff can work well in general teaching/meeting examples as well. I enjoyed and learned a lot in this video too.
100%, your energy and attitude speak louder than your words.
And intelligent communication will manage 99% of conflicts; ‘Speak softly but carry a big stick’.
It works if you say it repeatedly, have a perm, are wearing a brightly coloured shell suit and have a thick scouse accent. Seen it done on the telly before.
Simple but genius, i use this every day in a my current job without realising it.
My dad taught me this when i was younger. Always used it. The DONT STAND SQUARE. Arms length one foot back ready with defence or attack. It’s one of the best things I was ever taught. But it does get a few odd looks from your opponent if not done exactly. They always look at your feet and expect somethings incoming but when they see your not attacking I have always found the aggressor gains more confidence. So it’s gonna kick off basically. At least it always usually did for me 🤭 tactically for me wait for your opportunity and attack fast and hard. He asked for it
Exactly, a lot of guys who start fights will try to intimidate and see how you react. The second you show any weakness ,they get even more confident. Had a friend in the same situation saying he did not want any trouble and was trying to back off and the guy went ballistic trying to knock him out until my other mate smacked him in the face and hurt him, he backed down straight away off one punch lol.
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The psychological aspects of having that barrier between you is not to be overlooked.
Even if it is a very subtle fence, and the opponent is not consciously aware it is a 'fence', they will still feel it as a barrier to be overcome before they can do anything, and that could be the difference between them trying and not.
🇵🇱 MUCH RESPECT 🥋 🥊
So much skill and wisdom!!
I’m also thankful to gods of Martial Arts and Combat Sports for this connection with Gods of YT algorithms and finding this channel.
Brilliant Lee, as always, so fantastic at explaining basic defence tips that we can all use.
I had a bit of an altercation last year whilst driving in london. A guy thought I’d got him to get a ticket by forcing him to stop in a box junction behind me. What he couldn’t see was that there was a learner in front of me so I actually had no where to go. He started making violent gestures towards me in his car. We had a bit of verbal and I thought that was it. However he followed me for several miles, out of london and eventually when I stopped at a service station he pulled in behind me a few minutes later. I was more than a bit surprised. Whilst he was shouting and posturing and saying he wasn’t frightened and we should sort it out like real men. I adopted a nice relaxed fence. It quickly became clear to me that this guy was very verbal and aggressive when out of range, but less so at he got closer to me. So he basically wasn’t a threat. In this case I honestly believe being trained helped to avoid violence. If this was two posturing idiots then I’m sure there would have been physical confrontation. I was comfortable that this guy had no actual fight training, it’s amazing how I was able from behind my fence to actually run through what I was gonna do the second he got into range. Thankfully he didn’t and it all fizzled out and he left after demanding an apology, happy his manly ego had been fed. In this case the fence worked just about as well in real life as I could ever have hoped for in training. 👍👍 the one and only time I’ve ever needed it in real life and I hope the last.
Very interesting real life situation story. It seems that you handled it very well. Thank you for sharing.
Excellently done! Many of these principles are taught to law enforcement officers here in Virginia. We did move the contact distance to three arm's length from arms and a half distance. Very difficult for anyone to effectively punch from the three-arm length distance. I will be sharing this vid with my students and my fellow law enforcement instructors. Lots of excellent info and application for police and corrections officers.
Really really very good! Worldclass! Thanks.
Excellent interpretation of this concept and even adds to the idea. Thanks
A true master very well spoken and great delivery, thank you
Like your explanation of the fence n placement of hands; and of course your right... Learn something new everyday
Brilliant !!! The best video I've seen on the subject. Many thanks.
I used fence and other NVPs to deescalate conflicts that were going to get violent, and they worked wonderfully. Especially fence worked like a charm when things got escalated.
Fight science at its best. Thank you!
Very realistic vids Sensei & I just knew from the 1st vid I saw that you understood Shotokan also 🥋😊 Terry O’Neill,Geoff Thompson etc 👏 Big thanks for your great vids,Oss🙏
This is super practical, great info.
Nick Drossos has been showing this for years. Nice
Never knew how much I didn't know. Great Videos Sir!
Great video and great explanation on de-escalation. Even though I’ve thankfully have not been in a violent situation in many years, I train for this possibility often. The two touch rule seems to be a great way to handle a violent confrontation that will either de escalate or to be the point in which to act. Thank you.
Great to see Terry O'Neill "gettin' some love"! 😈
He made a great deal of sense..
Every move he makes is violent. You tube master of MA
Excellent as always Lee 👊🏻
Outstanding ☯️
Great,Thank's!!
Regards from germany!👍👊
Excellent explanation thank you
As Tony Blauer puts it, our NVP is our modern day Trojan Horse. It aligns our weapons while attempting de-escalation (to our threat and to onlookers). This gives us legal and moral benefit and allows us to maintain an element of surprise.
Love the verbal submissiveness.... ppl forget about that art ....top man!
Thank Terry its all good sense. I particularly like the S. Narcs concept, really throws a wrench into a blind-side attack, doesn't it? Cheers
Always the most practical self defense advice available. Thanks!
Awesome explanation of the fence and the principle behind it, but does urban Combatives discuss trained people who know how to fight, who are going to have their hands up ready to go before they approach you, he’ll of a lot of ppl are training these days with the popularity of Ufc and Bjj.
Brilliant from Lee. A comprehensive tutorial of the fence and its practical real world application.
Very good, practical stuff. Thank you, Sir.
Very informative and educational. Thank you very much
Excellent
Absolute gold!
Excellent tutorial.
The true master 🙏
Outstanding video and explanation.
Great information
Great info!
great short video, well explained. I am looking to teach a group of teens some basic self defense and awareness. Watching this has helped me put some of basic techniques into words. Well done.
In the real world, most fights start with a sucker punch.
Invaluable!!!!!!!!
Cheers!
Lee Morrison and Graig Douglas teaching a class together would be the ultimate!!!!!! Maybe we could get Lee to cross the pond after China Virus is over...
The virus and (more importantly) lockdowns/travel restrictions are going nowhere. See: Agenda 2030.
Another good one Lee 👍
I love this guy he reminds me of my old buddy and sensi, except way less crazy lol.
Excellent content. Thanks for sharing!
Great tutorial Lee.
Excellent man! Thank you
I use to have a 1 touch rule👍
Extraordinary stuff!
Thanks. Discussing how not to get into an unnecessary fight through de escalation is great. I'd rather have someone who's had a bad day and wants to take it out on someone vent on someone who's in a similar state of mind. When 'the red mist' is going in someone it is hard to snap them out of that mindset... Or is there a way- short of knocking them out?
Brilliant
Good info, thanks.
Maintain tactical distance. 😎
Great video
Brilliant stuff
Perfection
Extremely brilliant and brutally honest!
The birds in the background descelated me...
Nice.
No bs. Good stuff.
most enjoyable
Top video mate
Thanks Lee. I have a question. For plan B ( Frame the head) Why do you prefer to employ a flinch response in the form of a cover as opposed to Tony Blauers spear idea? Would love others to chime in on this question also.
Beautiful
Great stuff ,deescalation win win for everyone.
Behold...A Level 10 combat wizard giving a clinic on unsuspectingly destroying your opponent.
this stuff is amazing, life saving
Outstanding!
#1 dont hang out in those areas where you will more likely run into people like that.
Yeah millions have no choice but to live and grow up in those places but good for you buddy thank God huh??
I like this guy...
Very good presentation. Thank you very much. There is an excerpt from a book right in the end, but i cant make out what the model is called or the book. Can someone help me? It is that "South Marcs Contact Management", "Sarth Marcs...", "Saath..." Please help. I want to read more.
Excellent instruction on non violent posture!!! What was the name of that swordsman from 1710?
If I had one technique or principle to teach it would be Positioning Postioning Positioning!!!
I see the sense... but I feel that putting your hand that low in the middle and out there, will only get you knocked out with a haymaker or hook around the hand and ANYONE will be too slow to stop it or react to it. My preach is; if I can touch you; so can you touch me. Hint: you don't need to be in touching distance to still connect (a good striker), so again placing yourself at that distance and hands down will get you knocked out.
All Police OST instructors will recognise this instructional video as its what we teach all cops once a year ,unfortunately not everyone gets the concept.
With some exception, from now on after my first 'street fight', I'm going to stand my ground, put my lead hand out, and if the person wades in and puts pressure on that arm, I'm cracking them immediately with a rear cross slip beside them and unload hooks til its done. I'm through backing down from bullies and there are a lot of barking dogs in this city. I'm 1-0. Check back with you later...
I love you!❤️
intelligent and scientific….
I’m 75, very fit very strong very active. At my age I think preemptive is the way to go. Believe or not I have ar@#£’s being aggressive towards me. I have no idea why. I don’t walk around with a scowl on my face like I’m ready to take on any @#£&*(. Maybe I’m lucky (very) that I don’t look my age. But do I seriously look like a Challenge to someone? I don’t think so. So awareness is all important for me. But if anyone came and faced up to me,I wouldn’t have time to argue. I would get at it first. Knife or Firearm excluded of course. Great vid Lee. Would like comments on my post good or bad 👍 Please bear in mind I’m not clubbing (I should be so lucky.) just pubs, walking in town with my partner, who is older than me. And of course the usual road rage incident which happens to everyone. But despite being an advanced driver,ex driving instructor. I still encounter those who think they are gods gift to driving. Never thought I would have this in later life, when I should be enjoying what remains of my life.