BMW N63 Hot-Vee 4.4L Twin Turbo V8 Complete Engine Teardown. THERE ARE SO MANY STEPS TO THIS

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2021
  • If this is the first teardown you are finding, there are over 20 others I've done! Lots of LS's, A viper engine, rx8 rotary, and a couple SRT8 Hemi's to name a few. Check them out here • Blown Up Engine Tear D...
    My name is Eric and I own and run a full service auto salvage business called Importapart located in the Saint Louis MO area. Part of our model is dismantling and selling parts from rare and niche market engines. If you're interested in buying parts from this engine or others I've torn down, email us at Importapartsales@gmail.com.
    In this video, I completely dismantle a BMW N63 4.4L Twin Turbo V8. This is BMW's first Turbo V8, and it is a Hot-Vee configuration where the turbochargers are in the valley of the engine. This engine can be found in BMW 650, 750. X5, X6 and some others. This particular engine is from a 2009-2013 F01 chassis 7 series. This was the longest teardown yet, but I still don't think its the most difficult to work on. That being said I am NOT a fan of these engines, regardless of how well they run.
    I hope you enjoyed the teardown! As always, I love all the feedback, suggestions and criticism. Catch you on the next one!
    -Eric
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  • @matte8441
    @matte8441 3 года назад +358

    Anyone that owns a BMW that ends in -50i is a brave soul.

    • @MikeJones-ko9ro
      @MikeJones-ko9ro 2 года назад +12

      I do but it’s a new engine and turbos in mine s

    • @andresquinonezramirez9373
      @andresquinonezramirez9373 2 года назад +7

      Very brave soul that’s why I personally won’t work on BMW’s

    • @matte8441
      @matte8441 2 года назад +74

      @@andresquinonezramirez9373 I personally prefer wrenching on BMWs or anything Euro because of the customer base. Most BMW owners are aware of high repairs and are willing to spend money. The cars themselves may be tedious but not hard to work on. My customers that have Toyotas and domestics are the cheap, bring their own part that won’t fit type of customers.

    • @48hourrecordsteam45
      @48hourrecordsteam45 2 года назад +9

      😭 thanks for telling me after the damage has been done

    • @MikeL-FL
      @MikeL-FL 2 года назад +39

      I'm on my 3rd one. 750Li, X5M and M550. Love these motors.

  • @alexboi32
    @alexboi32 3 года назад +38

    Lol after 135k miles, I had to sell my beloved 2011 550i. I did the valve seals and all. When it works, the engine is absolutely fantastic and powerful. Responds to tunes greatly if done properly.
    Once it breaks, run.

    • @chriskarsseboom2200
      @chriskarsseboom2200 2 года назад +2

      That’s the old version. It’s been completely revised now. None of those issues are around now

    • @FnGRZupra
      @FnGRZupra Год назад

      @@chriskarsseboom2200 What did they change between the 2011 and 2020+?

    • @billyowusu48
      @billyowusu48 Год назад +1

      @@chriskarsseboom2200 theirs still issues

  • @agenericaccount3935
    @agenericaccount3935 3 года назад +191

    Wow. Look at the size of your facility. I had no idea it was industrial scale. I really appreciate that you take the time to do these teardowns in amongst all the owner-ey stuff a place like that calls for.

    • @toomanyhobbies2011
      @toomanyhobbies2011 3 года назад +8

      The entire facility probably is what we can see. Here on the West coast the junkyards are at least that big, but out there theft might be a major problem, so it's enclosed. It's very impressive though.

    • @FordPickUPRed
      @FordPickUPRed 2 года назад +6

      I would quit my office job to work there.

    • @riversatkins9262
      @riversatkins9262 2 года назад

      No hi n B BCD’s

    • @DavidSmith-tu1nd
      @DavidSmith-tu1nd 2 года назад +4

      This is why Germans go bald so early. What have I created. Integrate the wiring harness into another harness. Big valve train controlled by weak chain guides.

  • @blacksheep25251
    @blacksheep25251 2 года назад +20

    I've become more emotionally invested into this teardown than all of the new shows on Hulu and Netflix..
    Great tear down and video... as if I am right there with you doing it. No horrible music, over-dramatized dialog, just straight at it. Love it! Thank you

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Год назад

      Still a better love story than Twilight.

  • @abcortani
    @abcortani 3 года назад +79

    Q: "Why is your BMW in the shop all the time?"
    A: "It's complicated."

    • @robwells5753
      @robwells5753 3 года назад +4

      Bc its a bmw > bring my wallet lol i work on them they are a junk design

    • @TbsDltn
      @TbsDltn 2 года назад +1

      noice one

    • @Zo_So96
      @Zo_So96 2 года назад +1

      @@robwells5753 to say its a junk design is a bit far fetched. on these ones, maybe. but otherwise the older gen motors like the I6's are rather simplistic and easy to work on.

    • @zooski1516
      @zooski1516 2 года назад +5

      “It’s plastic”

    • @robwells5753
      @robwells5753 2 года назад +1

      @@Zo_So96 true that i should have been more clear that its only the last 10yrs or so BMW went downhill with the overkill of plastic parts in engine bays shows a total lack of engineering. BMW's, some GM and Dodge products (Fords? i never been hungry enuf to work on one ) are my bread and butter.

  • @cmdrclassified
    @cmdrclassified 2 года назад +39

    Pro tip: For bolts with a shallow head, or with minimal damage, use a lathe and machine the leading edge of the socket opening so that the internal bevel is removed. This will greatly increase the contact area between the bolt and the socket, making it far less likely to strip the head of the bolt.. I have done this to many popular sized sockets for just this purpose. Hope this helps all who read this.
    I have been a Mechanic for over 35 years. I specialize in GM, Toyota, and BMW, though I work on everything from small engines, to any automobile, on up to industrial machines.

    • @link18953
      @link18953 2 года назад +5

      Very common technique for suspension rebuilders too. Even an impact socket can be turned in the lathe with carbide tips, I prefer 6 point impact sockets, diamond file to bevel the inside faces just enough to take off the inevitable sharp edge, use the lathe to bevel the outer lip just enough to stop the lip being sharp

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Год назад +5

      Great idea. Now I need to buy a lathe. 😆

    • @joshmanis9860
      @joshmanis9860 7 месяцев назад

      @@mediocreman2you can use the side of a bench grinder or if your brave enough the side of a angle grinder

    • @TdotTrustMe
      @TdotTrustMe 5 месяцев назад +1

      Just put the socket on extension into drill/driver/impact then belt sander/grinder. Awesome tip to remove tip.

  • @KXKKX
    @KXKKX 3 года назад +32

    Suggestion: Throw motion sensors on all the lights in your warehouse. They did this in my workplace and it had a less than one year payback including parts and electrician labor.

  • @Wpjgdmtu
    @Wpjgdmtu 2 года назад +20

    Wow. This engine makes my Audi 3.0T look as simple as a flathead 4. The open air oil catch pan in the valley is really forward thinking design. Keeps the oil from leaking all over the ground, thus improving environmental impact by BMW.

  • @anthonybielobockie4991
    @anthonybielobockie4991 3 года назад +64

    Everytime he cracks open another engine I am more impressed by the GM LS & LT. GM's design is so simple, elegant, compact, and powerful.

    • @haroldbenton979
      @haroldbenton979 3 года назад +3

      The last engine that someone can really work on fairly well as a shadetree mechanic. Some of the newer stuff your like oh hell no I'm not even going to try.

    • @CPO-kn5uo
      @CPO-kn5uo 3 года назад +5

      I’d have to say the same with hemis. Pushrods just are more simplistic and it’s a beautiful thing

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 3 года назад +7

      @@CPO-kn5uo hemis arent exactly reliable though, they have a reputation for power but not reliability. anything chrysler/dodge/jeep/fiat is pretty trash these days

    • @CPO-kn5uo
      @CPO-kn5uo 3 года назад +1

      @@bradhaines3142 I wouldn’t agree with that but to each their own. Cheers

    • @turdrocket
      @turdrocket 3 года назад +2

      I work as a hobbyist on early 2000 bmw. And AMG Mercedes. I agree with you. Gm has it down from a engineering standpoint. Beautiful engines. This n63 is a piece of shit

  • @Jueen_
    @Jueen_ 3 года назад +131

    To do a lower timing case cover in a x5m pays like 48 hours, gotta pull down absolutely everything and take apart the engine to bare block, pretty fun job to do

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  3 года назад +64

      Good lord. At least they never leak, right? 😂😂

    • @trentdaddydolla647
      @trentdaddydolla647 3 года назад +29

      And this is why they are all over copart with "engine damage" lol

    • @fastboatster
      @fastboatster 3 года назад +9

      @@trentdaddydolla647 huh, given that the reman long block from the bmw is only 3 grand with core, it sounds like they might be an interesting buy

    • @trentdaddydolla647
      @trentdaddydolla647 3 года назад +10

      @@fastboatster not really when they want over 20k for an 2015. Too much

    • @fastboatster
      @fastboatster 3 года назад +9

      @@trentdaddydolla647 yes, that’s too much. If they had something slightly older for a lot less then that would be good. But anyways, I recently saw a 2011 550i with misfire for 6k, and I think even if I’d have to get another long block, that would be a great deal for a German twin turbo v8 car. N63 seems no more complicated than 4.0 tfsi but costs a lot less

  • @MikeS42069
    @MikeS42069 3 года назад +47

    One of the few RUclipsrs I'll watch start to finish no matter how long the video. Thanks for the entertainment

    • @Buzz-vz2js
      @Buzz-vz2js 3 года назад +3

      This and project farm are dependable to have great videos

    • @ronald6138
      @ronald6138 3 года назад +1

      it is something to watch .

    • @bcameron999
      @bcameron999 3 года назад

      Ditto !

  • @TestECull
    @TestECull 3 года назад +45

    7:42 makes me so thankful that I drive a rig with a carbureted 300cid I6 in it. There's more wiring on that BMW V8 than there is in the entirety of my truck!

    • @frontspring1
      @frontspring1 3 года назад +1

      Ford 4.9?

    • @muskokamike127
      @muskokamike127 3 года назад +3

      I remember swapping out chev 350s and helping my brother swap out his 340 out of his 1969 barracuda and we could do it in an hour. 1 wire to coil, coil to distributor, distributor to plugs, 1 big one to the starter, some smaller ones to the solenoid and am I missing anything?

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 3 года назад +1

      Yup. It was the 300 before it went EFI they switched nomenclature at that time.

    • @frontspring1
      @frontspring1 3 года назад +2

      @@TestECull one of the best motors ever

    • @TestECull
      @TestECull 3 года назад +1

      @@frontspring1 Hahaha yeah I'm in no hurry to V8 swap my F150. I'll just build up the 300 instead. Love that engine. Prolly never see one on this channel though they're too long lived and too indestructible~
      If we did see one on this channel it'd only be a 15 minute video. They're so simple that stripping it would...well Eric could just straight up post unedited real time footage and still not be overly long.

  • @ZPositive
    @ZPositive 3 года назад +9

    From now on when I see a turbo V8 BMW on the road, I'm going to laugh and say, "joke's on you, buddy!"

  • @secretsquirrel572
    @secretsquirrel572 2 года назад +25

    I’ve been looking forward to this video. My wife and I owned a 2012 750Li. I was on a road trip headed home and 80 miles away the engine started making an awful noise and I noticed the temp gauge climb to 250. The engine lost power. I got a tow home and took the car to BMW of Montgomery. They gave me the run around and wanted to charge me about $15,000 for a rebuilt motor. I kindly informed the service manager that I was aware of the class action lawsuit brought about by this trash motor. He didn’t look too surprised and brought the price down to $5000. It took a couple weeks but I was alerted to the completion of the install and was told the car was ready to go. We picked the car up and a week later got a low oil light. I took it back to troubleshoot and they said it was low and wanted to perform another round of consumption checks on the newly installed long block. When the car was ready to pick up, I got in to find the infotainment screen was black. I circled around the building and returned to the service department. I was given a loaner and they were going to look into why the screen was dead. I get a call a week later saying they suspect the screen is bad and it would be about $2000 to repair. I laughed and said it worked when I dropped it off and it better be working when I come to get it and I’m not paying squat. So a week goes by and I get a call saying BMW will not pay for the screen. I was PISSED. I called the owner of the dealership and explained the story. I was told it would be fixed at no cost to me… and it was. I picked the car up and went straight to a GMC dealer and bought my wife a Yukon Denali.
    Never again will I ever buy, lease, drive, or even look in the direction where a BMW may happen to be located. The cars are 100% trash. At least Ford paid out billions in warranty repair on the 6.0L that was trash. BMW had to be taken to court and they still require you par for part of the motor and the full cost of the R&R cost. Stay away from BWM and stay even further away from BMW of Montgomery in Alabama.

    • @liblib89
      @liblib89 2 года назад +11

      that denali not gonna be fun to own once it gets old either lol

    • @SkinnySkinch
      @SkinnySkinch 2 года назад +8

      @@liblib89 yeah my Yukon Denali 2016 model bent a rod at 80mph on the highway and completely trashed the motor. 34k miles. The 6.2L GM motors are absolute trash.

    • @uptopbb5723
      @uptopbb5723 2 года назад

      How long ago did this happen to the car ?

    • @BlindMansRevenge2002
      @BlindMansRevenge2002 2 года назад +3

      You were the victim of the Steelership experience!

    • @Twobarpsi
      @Twobarpsi 2 года назад +1

      Let's go BMW!

  • @metagaminguniversemgu2240
    @metagaminguniversemgu2240 Год назад +1

    If I could ever even figure out how to dismantle the engine, I would never be able to put it back together. This just blows my mind.

  • @alanarmstrong2323
    @alanarmstrong2323 3 года назад +7

    This makes the 350 hp 327 look like a dream.

  • @45AMT
    @45AMT 3 года назад +27

    I'm with you Eric I wouldn't own one of these. But it was still cool watching this one get torn down. Thanks for doing these cool tear down videos!

  • @jhill680
    @jhill680 3 года назад +5

    Dude, your attitude and comments make this channel...

  • @markroush7182
    @markroush7182 2 года назад +1

    My first car was a 1969 BMW 2002. I rebuilt its engine as a 19 year old and loved every minute of it! Cars were so much easier to work on then and just as much fun to drive if not more so! I would hate every minute of trying to keep up with maintenance on that monster! Just saying!! I Love watching you tear all those engines down though!! Great videos... Thanks!!

  • @pl1611
    @pl1611 2 года назад +2

    Yup, I've replaced a bunch of stuff on mine including the oil return cover, oil return lines, a bunch of gaskets, coolant line, etc... most of the problematic areas to not have to worry about for awhile as I do plan on keeping the car for a while, but it teaches you a lot along the way. They are maintenance heavy vehicles but nothing drives like these engines so for me it is worth it...

  • @stevemiller6766
    @stevemiller6766 3 года назад +8

    Love the tear downs man. I cannot picture ever working on an engine as complex as that one.

    • @garyf2871
      @garyf2871 2 года назад

      I can only imagine if you need to work on in when it's in the car! How labor hrs at how $$ an hour?

  • @100amps
    @100amps 3 года назад +12

    Nice to see you get some sellable parts afterwards, dude. Thats almost as gratifying as the carnage!

  • @brandonlogan3021
    @brandonlogan3021 2 года назад

    I can honestly say that you're the only youtuber that id watcha 38 minute video. very informative and keeps me intrigued and wanting to learn more thank you bro😁

  • @babaganoosh555
    @babaganoosh555 3 года назад +2

    I always love your tear down videos. Nothing beats kicking back on a lazy Sunday watching someone else getting their hands dirty 👍

  • @somebutter6755
    @somebutter6755 3 года назад +26

    Imagine trying to trace a wire on this engine.

  • @philrhodes2638
    @philrhodes2638 3 года назад +4

    Definitely one of my favorite channels on RUclips! Keep up the great work! Fascinating to see the differences between the engine manufacturers. And I have learned from you to never buy a Mazda with the 2.3T....

  • @kwakas4ever
    @kwakas4ever 3 года назад

    Another excellent teardown video, Eric - it's always good when I can learn something, be entertained and you make money! Am particularly fascinated by the tech/assembly differences between Euro/Japan/US. Keep em coming please.....

  • @TheRichardc88
    @TheRichardc88 2 года назад +2

    Between the valve guide seals and the ridiculous oil change intervals most of these N63 V8s were not longed for this world. Very sad considering how amazing these engines perform when they work. Very well maintained ones that had customer satisfaction recall preformed are still out there running with high mileage. Should be good money for parts alone. Great video sir!

  • @J-Kersting
    @J-Kersting 3 года назад +19

    I just did an engine out service on an N63 out of a 2011 550i, and we replaced timing chain and guides, valve stem/guide seals, and walnut blasted, along with the lower timing cover, oil return block, and every other gasket, including head gaskets. Total labor ended up being 64.1 hours.

    • @vumba1331
      @vumba1331 3 года назад +1

      How many miles on the clock?

    • @J-Kersting
      @J-Kersting 3 года назад +1

      @@vumba1331 127,000~

    • @vumba1331
      @vumba1331 3 года назад

      @@J-Kersting O/K, so reasonable use. Not too bad.

    • @Johnc259
      @Johnc259 3 года назад +2

      And for those poor people in the audience ......How much was this approximately?

    • @trizkial7592
      @trizkial7592 3 года назад +1

      @@vumba1331 that’s pretty trash for only 130k miles. Should not have to do all of that with that mileage

  • @rylandmedwick6229
    @rylandmedwick6229 3 года назад +6

    just finished the joy of dealing with a n62, 30 book hours just to check timing, brutal.

    • @nouseformyname3788
      @nouseformyname3788 3 года назад

      Wtf? Horrible, sorry Man.

    • @Ben-in6qh
      @Ben-in6qh 5 месяцев назад

      That's not right, you mean 3 hours. These cars and engines are actually pretty easy to work on once youv'e done a couple

  • @Malaveldt
    @Malaveldt 3 года назад +1

    I feel so invested in these and so happy when you come out ahead.

  • @Jack-qn4vt
    @Jack-qn4vt 3 года назад +1

    The way you strip these engines is done like a true professional, good job

  • @7KidsSpanoMan
    @7KidsSpanoMan 3 года назад +116

    The term "over engineered" seems to play here. Engines are very simple. Regardless of turbo or supercharged. This is just a freaking mess.

    • @carlfowler1996
      @carlfowler1996 3 года назад +3

      I agree.

    • @taylorc2542
      @taylorc2542 3 года назад +21

      Some people buy cutting edge engines simply because they admire the technology, kinda like when people buy 10k mechanical watches with jewel bearings, even though a Casio keeps time just as well. BMW knows this, and they deliberately disregard maintenance cost because they don't want 15 year old BMWs driven by crackheads to drag down their image. It's the same with wasting money on Amsoil or Snap-On tools; it's an emotional purchase and part of peoples identity. The regulatory environment is also a big driver; to get this much HP and hit fuel economy requires a lot of technology.

    • @carlfowler1996
      @carlfowler1996 3 года назад +4

      @@taylorc2542 I agree. What happened to the day when you could buy a v8 engine and maintain it with a few simple hand tools. It shouldn't cost over a thousand dollars just to change spark plugs and wires.

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 3 года назад +3

      It became possible to do all the V8 things using 6 or even 4 cylinders. Not much demand for a 'simple, reliable, inexpensive' spark ignition V8 outside of the US, where they are still popular in 'trucks.' Everywhere else such vehicles are usually running I4 or V6 diesels

    • @heytonyman
      @heytonyman 3 года назад +6

      That pretty much applies to all things with German automobiles. Over-engineered to failure.

  • @MarcusBerking
    @MarcusBerking Год назад +3

    I had a 2012 N63 and it was constantly giving me headaches from coil packs to turbo oil leaks, battery, air springs…..the list goes on. Still, a very punchy and responsive power plant and wouldnt hesitate to buy a new one now that they’ve revised the engine :)

  • @Oscar-gb8lh
    @Oscar-gb8lh 2 года назад +1

    thank u so much for this video, my dad and i have been trying to find a video showing how to take off the timing chain cover for the longest time, this was very helpful. and it was pretty easy to take apart but when its in the car itself it is a pain in the ass

  • @lookingforhope5455
    @lookingforhope5455 Год назад +1

    Saw a 2010 GT 550i at the auto auction tonight. Good looking car 126k miles. It Was running with heavy white smoke. I just hadn’t ever seen a hatchback before. I was mesmerized. I just kinda sat and starred like what is it? I liked it. It hits the block and bottoms at 3K. I found my hand starting to twitch like an impulse was about to jump up and say hello. surely it can’t be that bad… and then suddenly I began to think of your channel.. the twitch in my hand stopped and the hatchback 🚗 rolled off into the night.. I wave the smoke from my face and start to get giddy thinking do I get to play pretend and virtually tear down a twin turbo V8 tonight?
    Well sir. Yes I do…
    just want you to know that this channel saves lives.
    Thank you for what you do and
    God Bless

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  Год назад +1

      Friends don’t let friends buy n63’s

  • @ryotaryuu
    @ryotaryuu 3 года назад +43

    Were all the engineers that designed this engine in different rooms at development?

    • @nouseformyname3788
      @nouseformyname3788 3 года назад +1

      Hahaha

    • @bcameron999
      @bcameron999 3 года назад +5

      Or maybe all together scheming the ultimate revenge.

    • @michaelireland7239
      @michaelireland7239 2 года назад +1

      different countries more like it

    • @razberik8320
      @razberik8320 2 года назад +1

      You probably think you wrote a joke, but it is not a joke. It is a common practice that engineers really sit in different countries.

    • @ryotaryuu
      @ryotaryuu 2 года назад

      @@razberik8320 No I knew that. And it's not a joke. It's ridiculous

  • @racer4200
    @racer4200 3 года назад +3

    The valve seals were bad on my N62 V8. Smoked like hell and wouldn't pass smog until I used some BarsLeak Valve Seal treatment. No more smoking and passed smog first try after adding it to the oil. I just added it after every oil change and never had a problem again. #nosponsored

  • @josepgutierrez22
    @josepgutierrez22 3 года назад +1

    Your back! Good video. And please keep these tear downs coming!

  • @rickb3288
    @rickb3288 2 года назад +1

    I've been researching the possible purchase of an Alpina B7, which has this engine. Thankfully, I've already learned about the first gen N63 and its issues, so my search is 2014+ models. Thanks for creating this video. I learned a lot!

  • @litz13
    @litz13 3 года назад +77

    Only BMW could design an engine that weighs more in copper wire, then the actual engine itself.

  • @4wdiesels
    @4wdiesels 3 года назад +98

    Would you like an engine with your wiring harness? That wiring harness looked like a hot mess of a nightmare! I can only imagine troubleshooting electrical problems on that beast!

    • @IncertusetNescio
      @IncertusetNescio 3 года назад +11

      There appears to be like 200+ft of wiring harness alone on the engine. Absurd!

    • @ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
      @ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm 3 года назад +4

      plug in the OBD meter and the computer talks to the obd with codes = but your no mechanical knowledge !

    • @dragoonTT
      @dragoonTT 3 года назад +11

      @@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm If that fails, you unhook it and proceed to get the apprentice to break it down for scrap.

    • @bcameron999
      @bcameron999 3 года назад

      Haha, really!!

    • @youtubeaccount7544
      @youtubeaccount7544 3 года назад +1

      You don’t you just throw it away.

  • @Txepsiyu
    @Txepsiyu Год назад

    Your methodical disassembly technique is so satisfying.

  • @harrycatrell1471
    @harrycatrell1471 3 года назад +2

    I have subscribed because you seek what caused the failure, not just showing the results. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Be safe!

  • @ftboomer1
    @ftboomer1 3 года назад +60

    Slight gain in emmissions and economy makes the engine nearly impossible to maintain and therefore the entire car is disposable.
    How is that supposed to be "green"?

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 3 года назад +5

      It's supposed to be a status symbol. If you care about being green you get a 4-cylinder economy car.

    • @darylmorse
      @darylmorse 3 года назад +12

      That pretty much sums up the state of today's vehicles. No wonder the resale values crash after the warranty expires. They are so complex that they are too expensive to repair. So much for sustainability.

    • @carlfowler1996
      @carlfowler1996 3 года назад +2

      @@darylmorse Couldn't have said it better. also I don't need a status symbol I can't rely on.

    • @goddesseddog
      @goddesseddog 3 года назад +6

      ask corrupt eu politicians

    • @dieantischeisse
      @dieantischeisse 3 года назад +5

      They want and will kill the car as private property, thats all they want, if peasants cant afford to fix their intentionally over complicated and flawed trash new cars then its quite good in their eyes, less people will drive

  • @luismarty1685
    @luismarty1685 2 года назад +4

    A few years back I remember doing the valve stem seals on this type engine with the engine in place on the vehicle. It was an absolute nightmare.

  • @1911Earthling
    @1911Earthling Год назад

    Man I would never see a engine like that in real life. You sent me on a trip thru the internet figuring out what a hot Vee was. What a wild set up. Thanks for the video. Again I would never see a engine like that.

  • @retro440
    @retro440 3 года назад

    I don't think I understand why watching you tear down engines is so fascinating, but, it is!!

  • @lefty77713
    @lefty77713 3 года назад +5

    These uploads are the highlight of my Sundays.

  • @aggregor95
    @aggregor95 3 года назад +4

    how many cables you want on your engine?
    bmw: yes

  • @brandonsimunac
    @brandonsimunac 3 года назад

    These vids are the best thing to look forward to on a Sunday

  • @Encyclo3
    @Encyclo3 3 года назад +2

    I'm an aerospace maintenance & pilot guy, working mainly with turbine engines. Also a car guy (S2000). Always appreciate the quality of your videos. Really shows how simple turbines are Vs piston engines.

    • @peanuts2105
      @peanuts2105 Год назад +2

      I work in aerospace maintenance too on the long haul tin. Glad gas turbine engines are properly designed and thought out, unlike this BMW shit-storm. Can't beat jet engines even though I love my Jaguar XFR beef and gravey 5.0l V8.

    • @ouch1011
      @ouch1011 Год назад

      90% of the overcomplication on modern automotive engines is due to taking prehistoric technology (internal combustion engines) and trying to clean them up enough to meet emissions requirements. It’s a losing battle until they completely scrap the current ICE design and start over (or scrap ICE entirely)

  • @sharomoini6655
    @sharomoini6655 3 года назад +22

    Excellent tear down!
    I've owned a 2011 (totaled by a drunk while parked last year) and currently drive a 2014 550 (10/2013) which has served me well. I would say I'm 4.1 out of 5 wrenches in skill level and In my opinion this engine is fantastic. It makes excellent power for it's MPG and routine maintenance is easy enough.
    BUT: Most drivers do oil/fluid changes and brakes at their convince. Maybe sooner if they hear a noise. First stop being the dealer. I call this the Dealer cycle.
    Heat will kill this engine. You must be fanatic with your coolant flushes and oil changes and don't forget to check your levels- You you can tell BMW went the extra mile to squeeze all the extra bit of cooling they could within the chassis. Dealer cycle maintenance and inspections will not prevent heat death- That's a hot warning.
    There's little driving habit changes and parking tricks you can do to cool down your engine but most people don't want to do this and that is OK.
    Because this engine requires vigilance and extra attention I caution the laid back BMW owners and new shoppers alike to steer away (pun) from this engine. Look into a N55 or if you want something fun an 05/06 M54.
    Again, excellent video. I'm glad I found your channel!

    • @OggleNaziChronicFarm
      @OggleNaziChronicFarm 2 года назад +2

      Hey i bought a 2016 750i with 37k miles. Full warranty till 75k miles from carmax. Any idea how often i should do the coolant flush that you are talking about. Also oil changes every 4k-4500 miles ok? recomended oil? other than that just follow the manual for all other recommended maintenance? also what do you mean by driving habit changes and parking tricks . I live in las vegas so its hot AF during the summer...lucky we're coming into the cooler months. appreciate any tips you can offer

    • @sharomoini6655
      @sharomoini6655 2 года назад +5

      That is a great warranty. Make sure you hold them to it! And welcome to the HOT V party!
      Regular intervals are fine. Unlike an alarm clock you cannot snooze on oil and coolant flushes so keep a log book or make calendar reminders in your phone.
      Background: This engine has coolant for the engine and coolant for the turbos powered by an auxiliary pump which pulls from the small tank up front. Upon stopping the engine after a hot run you'll hear the engine fan running and what you cannot see is the aux coolant pump running to cool your turbos. This is normal. A BMW mechanic I know thought this was a fault but it is not.
      My idea is simply help it cool down.
      On your way home after city driving or hard driving: leave it in comfort ( no sport) for a while as you drive home. When home, park somewhere you can open your hood to let that hot air out for an hour or 2. No need to keep it open all night and dont open it if it's going to rain! Bonus: If you have a garage, get a box fan and hang it from the ceiling. Please be careful, be smart when working around your hot engine. Good luck, congratulates again.

    • @sharomoini6655
      @sharomoini6655 2 года назад +2

      Forgot.. oil. I live in Illinois and i run 10w40 which is thicker than the stock 5w30. Thicker is better in high temperatures I would consider a 10w40 in Sin City lol.
      Good luck!

    • @OggleNaziChronicFarm
      @OggleNaziChronicFarm 2 года назад +1

      @@sharomoini6655 Thanks for the tips man. Much appreciated!

    • @user-lj5iv7gf9p
      @user-lj5iv7gf9p 2 года назад +4

      Hey Sharo, i own a 2010 X5 50i with 8k miles on it. No issues yet. What can i do do prevent those kind of problems with the N63 engine?????

  • @ProjectFairmont
    @ProjectFairmont 3 года назад +20

    Long duration oil changes don’t help. A very smooth, powerful and efficient engine. Change oil 2 twice a year.

    • @amazoidal
      @amazoidal 3 года назад +3

      Make sure you use a real synthetic oil (Group 4/5) like Motul or Liqui-Moly. Almost all U.S syns are just Group 3.

    • @audettere
      @audettere 2 года назад

      How many miles do you have

    • @ProjectFairmont
      @ProjectFairmont 2 года назад +1

      @@audettere mine’s a 2020 with 15k mi. I knew about the valve guide seals going into it. From what I read BMW improved these seals, but because it’s a “hot vee” design I could understand the added stress. So I am not taking chances. My X5M50i is relatively fuel efficient (avg 19.7 mpg) which is mostly city, tows 7500 lbs (I tow an enclosed car trailer), ridiculously quick for a 5000lb SUV, and supremely comfortable. I intend to keep it for many years.

    • @dieselgeezer18
      @dieselgeezer18 2 года назад +1

      @@ProjectFairmont 19 mpg is kinda crap

    • @ProjectFairmont
      @ProjectFairmont 2 года назад +1

      @@dieselgeezer18 Not bad for a supremely comfortable vehicle with 523 horsepower and 553 lb-ft of torque. 3.9-second zero-to-60-mph , quarter-mile 12.4 seconds at 112 mph and weighs 5336 and can tow 7500 Ibs.

  • @twinturbo8304
    @twinturbo8304 2 года назад

    I can tell that you're a good mechanic A dying breed

  • @mikimiki195
    @mikimiki195 Год назад

    Dude thanks for taking time to to make this video.
    This is great video for reference 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @trevorsmith2006
    @trevorsmith2006 3 года назад +67

    Standard German design philosophy: "Why use one simple part when you could use six overly complicated parts?"

    • @bcameron999
      @bcameron999 3 года назад +10

      When I wrench on my German cars I routinely have a mental picture of a bunch of German engineers at a conference table talking about the puzzles and challenges they will build in for us :-). But you do get an intuition for it over time…

    • @robwells5753
      @robwells5753 3 года назад +5

      And ford is doing the same

    • @alb12345672
      @alb12345672 3 года назад +3

      @@robwells5753 Ford cologne (Explorer) engines had their share of weird problems.

    • @EdwardT9
      @EdwardT9 2 года назад +1

      Have you seen their language?

    • @trevorsmith2006
      @trevorsmith2006 2 года назад +3

      @@EdwardT9 Aside from the odd capitalizations, I actually find German to be somewhat easy to grasp.

  • @nickpetkov7832
    @nickpetkov7832 3 года назад +8

    Try doing valve seals on one of those with the engine still in the car.

  • @ApacheChief88
    @ApacheChief88 2 года назад +1

    I used to work on these engines at the dealership. Such a pain in the ass! But not too bad after you've had your hands on a few of them.

  • @s.palmer3148
    @s.palmer3148 2 года назад

    I find watching these engine teardowns relaxing.
    Id enjoy seeing a shop tour

  • @daverunner3397
    @daverunner3397 3 года назад +4

    You gon learn today son!

  • @jaybomb5022
    @jaybomb5022 3 года назад +46

    Best to avoid this engine before the TU Update, ie: pre2014 model years. Most of the issues were fixed from then on.

    • @03mm24
      @03mm24 2 года назад +9

      And that goes for the S63 as well

    • @48hourrecordsteam45
      @48hourrecordsteam45 2 года назад

      They tried to do tweaks , if unlucky enough, you can still fall into the same line if problems just not as highly

    • @jaybomb5022
      @jaybomb5022 2 года назад +10

      @@48hourrecordsteam45 You're wrong, I own an N63TU and was a BMW technician at Pacific. upgraded. Keep up with maintenance and it's perfectly reliable.
      The N63TU doesn't even share anything in common except the block and accessories. Everything from the pistons, Valvetronic heads and turbos are ugraded.

    • @XcoolcoolbeansbeansX
      @XcoolcoolbeansbeansX 2 года назад +7

      You are indeed wrong. The later Tu and above versions of the N63 share virtually nothing with the original, aside from displacement and a gasket or two. BMW would have been smart to rename the engine to avoid confusion. Owning an N63TU,TU2, or TU3 is pretty average as far as maintenance and repair.

    • @katrinamac8118
      @katrinamac8118 2 года назад +1

      @@jaybomb5022 considering to buy 2014 650i gc with 86k miles, water pump had to be replaced. Carfax looks pretty decent. Do you think it’s pretty risky buying it with this mileage? Originally wanted a 640i and stick with v6 for reliability but I know it really depends on the last owner and how well they did preventive care.

  • @kimweaver1252
    @kimweaver1252 Год назад +2

    You can use the main and rod shell bearings to protect the journals. Put a dab of grease on each, press on, and secure with a wire tie.

  • @cameronbutner9307
    @cameronbutner9307 2 года назад

    Very informative I appreciate these videos and you taking the time to make them.

  • @MrBdavis99
    @MrBdavis99 3 года назад +139

    The notorious N63. BMW lost a class action lawsuit due to this pile of junk.

    • @ranmas2004
      @ranmas2004 2 года назад +4

      the original version yes....not the updates

    • @03mm24
      @03mm24 2 года назад +5

      Did the S63 make the lawsuit also? Cuz mine is a driveway ornament

    • @Cza1
      @Cza1 2 года назад +5

      @@03mm24 Get a powertrain warranty, pay it for a couple of months and then file a claim.

    • @03mm24
      @03mm24 2 года назад +5

      @THE FBI So is making a $105k truck that conveniently breaks down a mile after warranty is up

    • @Cza1
      @Cza1 2 года назад +2

      @THE FBI How? He said his car is not being used I assume due to fear of not wanting to break anything. Get insurance for it if it breaks in a couple months file a claim. Didn't know I had to explain how insurance works lol

  • @chubbysumo2230
    @chubbysumo2230 3 года назад +3

    the wiring monster on that looked decently intact, I bet it would be a valuable part.

  • @bobwiley6221
    @bobwiley6221 Год назад

    I have a 2005 545i with a N62 V8, non-turbo and it has sooo many fewer parts. I have 204,000 and have had to do nothing major to the car. Just normal maintenance items. I think BMW engines are outstanding. It's just the crappy side pieces, plastics that let them down. As shown my the cam chain guides here. I replaced all the O-rings and seals on the front of the engine and it doesn't leak a drop! Seriously I have a unicorn. The only time I had to tow it was when the upper radiator hose fitting broke at the radiator. If I had the part I could have changed it in the field. I also replaced all the other water hoses as preventative, the cost was very reasonable. I bought it as a CPO from a BMW dealer and it is so fun to drive and handles like it's on rails.

  • @MansoorNasir23
    @MansoorNasir23 Год назад

    Awesome dismantling.. I love working on these engines... compare to any others... but your right you have to either have blinders for it to produce 440hp, but it always has misfires after 100k miles.

  • @douglascramer4935
    @douglascramer4935 3 года назад +7

    Just an FYI… The Ford 6.7 L PowerStroke “Scorpion” turbo-diesel has a hot-V layout, too.

    • @12DUDE20ONE
      @12DUDE20ONE 3 года назад +1

      So is the duarmax

    • @12DUDE20ONE
      @12DUDE20ONE 3 года назад +1

      And most diesel v8/6 engines. It is cheaper to make them hot V because both manifolds can meet the one turbo, although I believe some of the duramax engines had the exhaust manifolds on the outside. The reason for it is it makes the cool charge air isn’t sitting in the hot valey inceasing efficiency

  • @randoman75
    @randoman75 2 года назад +3

    The physical size of that engine compared to its displacement is kind of incredible.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Год назад +1

      DOHC and that hot V don't help that's for sure.

  • @stevechewning7741
    @stevechewning7741 3 года назад +2

    Your running commentary is botheducstionsl ad entertaining. Great work.

  • @brandonfernald257
    @brandonfernald257 2 года назад +1

    I have a 13 F07 with the n63tu. I meticulously maintain it, and change the oil at half what bmws oil change interval is with Pentosin. I found myself dreaming about a teardown of my engine and comments about how clean the internals are and the lack of any wear on the bearings. Great channel.

  • @FatAznAznWithCake
    @FatAznAznWithCake 3 года назад +7

    25:44 oh man. Someone needs an Astro tools sponsorship.

  • @bradwilliams4921
    @bradwilliams4921 3 года назад +3

    I think that the best engineered solutions are the simplest. All hail the Chevy small block.

    • @a4000t
      @a4000t 3 года назад

      here here!

  • @pyrolume
    @pyrolume 3 года назад

    really enjoy watching your channel man keep the videos coming.

  • @richtarquini498
    @richtarquini498 Год назад

    Purchased a 2013 550i xdrive earlier this year, cosmetically was it great shape. Didn't know enough about this version of the N63 before purchasing it. I've changed the plugs/coils, ccv breather hoses, serpentine belt, oil, aux turbo cooler pump, driver cv axle. Did all the work myself except the cv axle. Runs great right now, but after reading in much more detail about the repairs I'm considering get rid of it while its functional. Disappointed in all the bad reviews, since the power in this platform is so addictive.

  • @ocramidajzj
    @ocramidajzj 2 года назад +3

    I just kept thinking how trouble-prone putting something like that back together would be. Go in fixing one problem and come out with issues due to missing a key step or mistake during reassembly. Not to mention the chance that it may have issues off the assembly line. Even with intelligent manufacturing processes the shear number of parts means a higher chance of some defective part(s) out of the gate. Excellent content BTW

    • @dkoz8321
      @dkoz8321 2 года назад

      When it comes to these modern engines, all steps are key steps. There is no fault tolerance. If its not re-assembled 100% right, the engine wont start, or wont work right and throw an ECU error.

  • @sharomoini6655
    @sharomoini6655 3 года назад +3

    Beautiful engine.

  • @Mrbumbons1
    @Mrbumbons1 2 года назад

    Your assortment of hardware must be epic. Great vids.

  • @dogmando22000
    @dogmando22000 3 года назад +2

    As always another excellent video.
    Informative and humorous.
    Just reinforces the earned BMW reputation of just why non simplicity of design and use of non temperature tolerating plastic guides.
    Where do engine design committee's fail to keep and preform excellence standards,
    Some parts are superb in design and others have no excuse for pure cheapness.

  • @darylmorse
    @darylmorse 3 года назад +111

    Very cool to see this monstrosity come apart. It's ridiculous how overly complicated this engine is.

    • @MrSamPhoenix
      @MrSamPhoenix 3 года назад +5

      Germans smh

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 3 года назад +7

      you should see the motor used in a Mercedes AMG63,

    • @Michael-lg4wz
      @Michael-lg4wz 3 года назад +18

      you can see why people love them for the first 50,000km and hate them for the next 150,000

    • @tjw8t1
      @tjw8t1 3 года назад +31

      Most overly complicated German engines like this have some type of fatal flaw or they have a massive coolant or oil leak from a $5 gasket that takes $10k in labor to install.

    • @MrSamPhoenix
      @MrSamPhoenix 3 года назад +3

      @@tjw8t1 - German engineering at its best!

  • @davidd.33
    @davidd.33 3 года назад +3

    Its too bad about the mechanical issues of these engines because the power output and especially the delivery is incredible.

  • @Sunofmungo
    @Sunofmungo 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video. As a F12 owner, I intend to buy a second engine, and rebuild it forged. It's nice to know it's a factory closed deck block so I can just have it sleeved. Video is highly useful for my purposes, thanks

  • @CrazyPetez
    @CrazyPetez 2 года назад

    I really enjoyed this tear down. I have a friend who has a MB G-Wagon that also had a “hot V” engine. It makes a lot more sense than say, Ford’s turbo diesels with the turbo on top of the intake,,and hot plumbing from the sides of the engine. But, Ford engineers are certainly a lot smarter than I am.
    The point of my comment here is the revelations you made about BMW. It’s certainly acknowledged that BMW is a top quality, luxury brand. Yet you let a few “secrets” out about BMWs. They always leak oil! Wow, how surprising to a mere Ford ST owner. The complex BMW designs probably delight the design engineers, and do the same for the car’s proud and wealthy owners.
    I really enjoy all your tear down videos. Cheers!

  • @timbrown9731
    @timbrown9731 3 года назад +15

    German engineering at it's finest. ..

    • @mikea5205
      @mikea5205 3 года назад +2

      More like German complication at it's finest.

    • @shaggyduder
      @shaggyduder 3 года назад +2

      They make great driving cars, but the drive trains are junk. brought to you by the Socialist Republic of Germany.

    • @alb12345672
      @alb12345672 3 года назад +2

      @@mikea5205 Ford Explorer V6 Engines were german. They put timing chains in the back. Guess what you have to do to repair it :lol: The guides are probably the same plastic as this Engine :lol:

    • @bigpjohnson
      @bigpjohnson 2 года назад +2

      @@alb12345672 The previous pushrod 4.0 V6 from Cologne lasted entirely too long, so they "fixed" it! What a POS the SOHC turned out to be.

    • @alb12345672
      @alb12345672 2 года назад +1

      @@bigpjohnson Yes, I have one in a 96 Explorer, it is pretty indestructible. It also has crazy low end torque. It lacks the HP of the SOHC though. With the 4.10 gears and low range it is great for crawling. The SOHC Is more powerful but pretty much all of them need overhaul. I've heard of some lasting, but it probably needs OCD level maintenance.

  • @tynanmuehlemeyer3714
    @tynanmuehlemeyer3714 3 года назад +10

    I cannot wait to watch as more and more of these German engines roll in with turbos in the valley of the V and see what has happened to them with years + miles!

    • @gailgrove
      @gailgrove 3 года назад

      The "hot vee" style engine has the benefit of reduced turbo lag. Even the 6.7 Powerstroke uses this design, with a single turbo. As for the rest of the engine, looks like a complete mess.

    • @nate0031
      @nate0031 3 года назад

      Yup, Ford's PowerStroke has had the turbo in the valley since 2011, and that seems to be going pretty well. Plenty of those out there towing heavy with hundreds of thousands of miles.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Год назад

      Audi is doing very well with it. Been about 10 years now. But BMW couldn't make a good V8 to save their lives.

  • @ash136789
    @ash136789 3 года назад +1

    That was very fascinating, thanks for doing it 👍

  • @nsxmatt
    @nsxmatt 3 года назад

    I never thought I’d get excited to get home and cook dinner and sit down and watch someone tear down a salvage yard core motor.

  • @Liveforeever
    @Liveforeever 3 года назад +3

    I did the valve seals on a N62 once and that was the last time..

  • @garylarson6386
    @garylarson6386 3 года назад +10

    the only way to own one of these is when still under warranty !!!

  • @DEEuroworks
    @DEEuroworks Год назад

    Great video and channel, very enjoyable to watch.

  • @jeffmeng4479
    @jeffmeng4479 2 года назад

    I bought a X5 with an N63 engine so I really appreciate this video

  • @butt_cheeks269
    @butt_cheeks269 3 года назад +9

    I'm literally wearing that same shirt right now...

    • @7of21
      @7of21 3 года назад

      Bruh! I literally just got another yesterday myself, Ashville Super😀

    • @tedjordan9038
      @tedjordan9038 3 года назад

      Fashionista!

    • @ohioplayer-bl9em
      @ohioplayer-bl9em 3 года назад

      I don't have any pants on.

  • @YUFlysofast
    @YUFlysofast 3 года назад +7

    I wanna see you tear down a Northstar V8 one day

    • @93sundance
      @93sundance 3 года назад +1

      Those are pretty simple engines.

    • @toddp5122
      @toddp5122 3 года назад

      @RUclips needs a Snickers imagine how pissed i was when i had to replace the starter on my Nissan titan after talking trash about the Northstar.. Same damn place!

    • @trizkial7592
      @trizkial7592 3 года назад +1

      I replaced the head bolts with studs and it’s been a great running engine. It’s a very smooth V8. Once you have done it you can get to the starter in 5 minutes lol

    • @trizkial7592
      @trizkial7592 3 года назад

      @@93sundance they aren’t bad with it out of the car. Inside the car (fwd ones) good luck working on anything

    • @apprenticefelix7740
      @apprenticefelix7740 3 года назад

      Yes

  • @frothyshoes
    @frothyshoes 3 года назад

    Love this channel. Learning a lot!

  • @FairlyOldGit
    @FairlyOldGit 3 года назад +2

    We are in for a big change when Battery Electric Vehicles become the norm - the sheer complexity of modern ICE engines and transmissions when compared to BEV Electric motors is staggering.

    • @wills5482
      @wills5482 3 года назад +3

      Good luck when your fancy proprietary control board gets fucked and you can only buy a replacement from the dealership.

  • @JG-zb7om
    @JG-zb7om 3 года назад +30

    I never understood the hot-v design. It seems like a great way to concentrate all the heat-generating components into a very crowded area of the engine. Recipe for oil consumption and maybe even a fire if you ask me.

    • @tedeby5351
      @tedeby5351 3 года назад +12

      The point is to reduce turbo lag due to the short exhaust manifold.

    • @Morpheen999
      @Morpheen999 3 года назад +5

      @@tedeby5351 Not worth the sacrifice just to reduce some lag

    • @alexstromberg7696
      @alexstromberg7696 3 года назад +3

      If you know how to take Care of an engine it isnt a problem

    • @machtschnell7452
      @machtschnell7452 3 года назад +2

      @@tedeby5351 And run a better dual scroll set-up across the heads

    • @machtschnell7452
      @machtschnell7452 3 года назад +1

      Eliminates any lag.

  • @NousagiMechanic
    @NousagiMechanic 3 года назад +3

    Love watching these disassembly videos. Any possibility of you doing VW/Audi engines in the future? Would love to hear you tear down a W8. 🤣

    • @PatricioGarcia1973
      @PatricioGarcia1973 3 года назад +2

      Humble Mechanic did one, two vr4 put together, over complicated for something like 220hp….. they sound wicked though.

    • @NousagiMechanic
      @NousagiMechanic 3 года назад +4

      @@PatricioGarcia1973 I know Charles did, but he's used to VW and their wacky engineering. I want to hear it from someone who makes a living off of LSs. 👀

  • @michaelworden9265
    @michaelworden9265 3 года назад +1

    Fascinating!!! This engine's "Hot Feed" system reminds me of certain Detroit Diesel Engine manufacturing company videos on RUclips. When I found these 40+ year old Detroit Diesel engines with what seemed to be hot feed, I was flabbergasted.

    • @mediocreman2
      @mediocreman2 Год назад

      Hot V or vee because it's in the middle of the V of the engine.

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 Год назад

    Glad to hear that you are able to do well with your motor store.