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  • @PhlyDaily
    @PhlyDaily  Год назад +923

    360p GANG

  • @covenantslayergaming6362
    @covenantslayergaming6362 Год назад +2665

    Pulling 11g's over 20 seconds literally has the possibility to cause serious injuries. The F-16 has an angled seat so the pilot doesn't feel a small (but not insignificant) fraction of the g's but the airframe isn't designed to pull those 11g's either. There's a reason the g-limiter caps out around 7-8g's and even that's pretty high. Gaijin needs to implement the FBW system as we get more and more modern since we also shouldn't even be able to wing rip.

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Год назад +175

      No they don't, it's a video game, it's fine.

    • @MrEsphoenix
      @MrEsphoenix Год назад +40

      Getting shot probably does more damage

    • @sevenshooter2987
      @sevenshooter2987 Год назад +256

      @@jaek__ "🤓" you rn

    • @jaek__
      @jaek__ Год назад +230

      @@sevenshooter2987 bro thinks he's on Twitter

    • @BeerSougion
      @BeerSougion Год назад +45

      All jets have above real life G limits to allow more crazy maneuvers.

  • @PotatoeJoe69
    @PotatoeJoe69 Год назад +625

    This F-16 has the earlier 23,830lb ft thrust engine. The F-16C has the 29,000lbft engine. However, the F-16C also weighs considerably more. The fastest F-16's ever produced both in acceleration and top speed, was the F-16A Block 20. It did not have the most powerful engine ever in the F-16, but it was lightweight, and had a very high exhaust velocity, as well as a lower drag coefficient than later models.

    • @Doberman300
      @Doberman300 Год назад +14

      9,000 kgf is roughly 20,000 lbf. So is the number displayed in game not taking into account speed, or did they just not give the F-16 another 4,000 lbf of thrust?

    • @gforce_117
      @gforce_117 Год назад +9

      @@Doberman300 I’ve heard they show 10-20 percent less than the static thrust idk. But in flight it makes the proper amount due to intake restriction on ground and getting ram air at speed. They should clarify or show both. Math works out here so might be fine like that.

    • @DerRusher
      @DerRusher Год назад +2

      @@Doberman300 the mig29 should have 8300kgf per engine and it only has 6300kgf in game. its litereally missing 2000x2 so thats a total of 4000kgf! (about 8000lb) and you whine about 4000lb??

    • @sosogo4real
      @sosogo4real Год назад +2

      Which block is it?

    • @gforce_117
      @gforce_117 Год назад +1

      @@sosogo4real 10

  • @InitialiseDisk
    @InitialiseDisk Год назад +79

    I’ve often pulled 4Gs while flying and I can’t even imagine pulling 11 for more than a second.

    • @aleski6506
      @aleski6506 Год назад +5

      Me too, but remember they have G suits, and we don't (assuming you dont either haha)

    • @schmiddy8433
      @schmiddy8433 Год назад +4

      There's no military airframe rated for 11g, keep in mind war thunder is not realistic. F16's are capped at 9g, and earlier models might have even lower g limiters. The plane's avionics literally will not allow you to go any higher because doing so will mean that the airframe will need a complete rebuild or retirement on landing. Early F-18 models were capped at just 7.5g

  • @buzbuz33-99
    @buzbuz33-99 Год назад +290

    Even though they are only Gen 4 aircraft, I think the F16 and F18 are the epitome of dog-fighting aircraft. Both can hold a sustained turn at the limit of pilot endurance (around 9g) and both can climb vertically, which means that you can fight equally well in the horizontal and vertical planes. I hope Gaijin will create "missile free" arenas where players can hone their dogfighting skills. Good to see you "phlying" again.

    • @sosogo4real
      @sosogo4real Год назад +32

      *F-15C enters the chat*

    • @gr4phite776
      @gr4phite776 Год назад +10

      F-15s are cool as hell. That said, they aren't beating hornets and vipers in dogfights.

    • @NuclearFalcon146
      @NuclearFalcon146 Год назад +21

      @@gr4phite776 People do it all the time in DCS guns-only servers and it happens frequently in USAF dogfight training.

    • @NuclearFalcon146
      @NuclearFalcon146 Год назад +1

      Come to DCS, there are guns-only dogfight servers.

    • @pz.vincesiqueiros7185
      @pz.vincesiqueiros7185 Год назад +17

      F-15's are underrated and strike the perfect look between new and "early" 4th gen looks

  • @No1harris_98
    @No1harris_98 Год назад +151

    Never thought I would see 4th gen fighters in war thunder especially the F-16 and MIG-29 it’s insane, even have an die cast model off an F-16, it’s crazy to even see them in game.

    • @DaSteeJ07
      @DaSteeJ07 Год назад +8

      Funny I have a die cast mig 29 but cannot find an F16 one

    • @No1harris_98
      @No1harris_98 Год назад +3

      @@DaSteeJ07 wait what that’s actually a crazy coincidence 😂

    • @No1harris_98
      @No1harris_98 Год назад +1

      @@DaSteeJ07 wait what that’s actually a crazy coincidence 😂

    • @domingofung
      @domingofung Год назад +2

      And still no F15.... lol

    • @No1harris_98
      @No1harris_98 Год назад

      @@domingofung Yh ikr 😂

  • @Splif10C
    @Splif10C Год назад +83

    WE NEED WING VAPOR!! WE NEED IT! Please try to use your platform to bring attention to it Steve, Hope all is well with you brother.

  • @Boombi_
    @Boombi_ Год назад +38

    Never noticed how much the cockpit is a Buble that must provide a great view for the pilot in SIM battles and of course IRL

    • @frogsshadow4189
      @frogsshadow4189 Год назад +1

      When the first test pilots were given f-16s they kept getting lost in cloud cover and ending up in random orientations due to the lack of a reference when looking around outside (usually pilots can reference the frame of the cockpit

    • @Suo_kongque
      @Suo_kongque Год назад +15

      @@frogsshadow4189 when you are asked to test fly and F-16 but you don’t have your instrument rating:

    • @Incah2036
      @Incah2036 Год назад +1

      It’s sick man. Literally like you’re sitting on top of the jet. Complete game changer in BFM

  • @powwow151
    @powwow151 Год назад +76

    it's interesting you mention the F-16 making a potentially good carrier aircraft, because it competed with the VF-17 a 2nd time for the navy. it's called the Vought 1600, typical changes like strengthened airframe and lower wing loading.

    • @alphaadhito
      @alphaadhito Год назад +4

      Yeah, while you mentioned the landing gear, it reminds me that USAF vs USN pilot landing video. The USAF land the F-16 so gentle that it barely made any smoke while the USN pilot just barely crashed landed the F-18 😂

    • @ovrwrldkiler
      @ovrwrldkiler Год назад +3

      The f16 isnt really great as a carrier plane because two reasons: the gear layout and being a single engine plane. Its gear is small and somewhat thin cause it has to be stored in a small area cramped under the centerline but more importantly, the width of the wheelbase is tiny compared to most carrier planes. This makes it less stable/more likely to tip over on a rolling deck if it was to be used in heavy seas. In addition, its favored to use a two engine plane for carriers since you cant exactly emergency land the plane over open ocean and need to be able to limp back to the ship in case of an engine failure. These are two reasons why the program chose the f17 to develop into the f18 instead.

    • @vipvip-tf9rw
      @vipvip-tf9rw Год назад

      @@ovrwrldkilerf35 is single engine

    • @atramentar1883
      @atramentar1883 Год назад +2

      @@vipvip-tf9rw The F-35 was forced on the Navy by the Pentagon. The USMC demanded VTOL capability and it therefore had to have a single engine layout. You'll find that the Navy always opts for twin engines when it gets to procure aircraft of its own choosing. Twin engines are a fundamental requirement for Naval operations, the F-35 being the (forced) exception. It reduces survivability and doesn't have the necessary redundancy that a twin engine plane has.

    • @graysonmiller4221
      @graysonmiller4221 Год назад

      @@ovrwrldkiler this is true. But the reasons non carrier based fighters such as Air Force aircraft have tailhooks is to assist in emergency landing situations. All bases runways have emergency cable systems for that reason. And they use the tailhooks to help secure the aircrafts during engine maintenance runs.

  • @thegrayjedi5202
    @thegrayjedi5202 Год назад +306

    I happen to be lucky enough to work around these bad boys and even though I am FAR from being able to research it, it’s awesome to see in game finally. Yea they’re still making more but we’re trading most of ours for the f-35 so we’ll see how well that goes lol

    • @mdk03
      @mdk03 Год назад +2

      I know we just came out with the Block 70/72, so we must still be purchasing new ones? To replace Block 50/52 and maybe cut down on costs that come with replacing our entire 900+ fleet with f-35s?

    • @thegrayjedi5202
      @thegrayjedi5202 Год назад +8

      @@mdk03 I’m sure that’s part of it I’m not in on the exact details about what 16s were purchasing but I do know they’re still gonna be flying strong for awhile.

    • @carter2671
      @carter2671 Год назад +6

      Thats cool! I’m only a civ, but I live near Biggs Field so I see a lot of different trainers and a couple fighters every once in a while. The F16s are my favorite. F18s are probably my second. I’m curious, how did you end up working around them? I’d assume you are in the armed forces

    • @thegrayjedi5202
      @thegrayjedi5202 Год назад +1

      @@carter2671 I’m actually civ now but did a few years yes. Got lucky to get a job working on the airfield so I enjoy the birds every time they take off.

    • @foxboy64
      @foxboy64 Год назад +13

      this video is an excellent showcase of WHY we're trading them for f35's. purpose built dogfighters are incredibly obsolete. Even against aircraft of its own time period like in the video, its basically impossible to get into a dogfight that doesn't involve "who can lock who first with a missile".
      sure phly could dodge one or two missiles in the video. but he was also pulling 12g's. something the real aircraft cannot do without basically liquifying its pilot and ripping itself apart.

  • @EnderMalcolm
    @EnderMalcolm Год назад +9

    The Mig-29 currently has a missile in contention with Gaijin and community, the R-73. It's a nasty bugger; decent all aspect range and a 40+G overload. However, it can quite easily be flared, so idk why it's in contention at all. The missile we must all fear is the R-27T. It's bigger and a little slower, doesn't pull as hard, but it has fully functional ECCM, and the seeker FOV is insanely off-bore, yet has only a 1 degree LOS. It's basically impossible to flare, and not much chance of out-pulling it.

    • @NuclearFalcon146
      @NuclearFalcon146 Год назад +1

      At least in DCS the R-27T and R-27ET are actually very easy to flare off. You just have to know it is there which is the tricky part. Passive EO sensor locks are sneaky like that. These missiles work great for ambushes in combination with the EO sensor, but they will go straight for any flares you put out if you happen to see the launch.

  • @braedynhoward3644
    @braedynhoward3644 Год назад +67

    My dad was an F 18 pilot, and is now a civilian fighter pilot... pulling even 9gs sustained is a lot... 10 gs and 11gs is strong enough to bend airframes, and the pilot can't do that sustained . My dad says the max he pulls is 9 for short periods of time.

    • @BENNO117
      @BENNO117 Год назад +9

      What civilian air force is he flying fighters for?

    • @braedynhoward3644
      @braedynhoward3644 Год назад +14

      @@BENNO117 Draken International. They have A 4s, F 16s(block 60s btw, very modern), Cheetas (Kfirs) and several other aircraft. They even had mig 21s and F 4 phantoms flying at one point. He is learning the mirage F-1 now, and if they move the F 16s to where he is working currently, he will learn those too.

    • @seafirefr.4751
      @seafirefr.4751 Год назад

      @@braedynhoward3644, you can’t expect to say something like that on the internet and have people believe you without proof.

    • @_vr
      @_vr Год назад +1

      I can confirm this statement, as a F-16 maintenance crew - We slap pilots that even try to pull 7 gs, it damages the aircraft so much. 9 gs is the max human body with a flight suit can sustain for extremely short amount of time.

    • @braedynhoward3644
      @braedynhoward3644 Год назад +4

      @@_vr Thank you. My dad has a lot of maintenance crew working for him and I've heard this from them. They work on F 16s as well. I've gotten a lot of flack in other comment sections for saying it, but people seem to think fighter pilots pull more than 9 gs often. Maintenance crews would not be happy with that XD. Also thank you for your work, without people with your skill set fighter pilots wouldn't be able to fly.

  • @setesh1294
    @setesh1294 Год назад +31

    at this level of the game, you're gonna need combination flares and chaff, because R-27Rs do not care about flares. doesn't help that the R-27Ts have ECCM too.

    • @toxickilljoy9037
      @toxickilljoy9037 Год назад

      You have since they dropped the sparrow though...

  • @stin428
    @stin428 Год назад +24

    I honestly do the same thing Phly Love just coming up with my own scenarios or just putshing every top tier jet to its limits!! Glad to see you back keep up the great work!!

  • @ChaosDeere007
    @ChaosDeere007 Год назад +15

    As the F/A 18 is only 4 years younger I wouldn't be surprised if that is in the next update.

    • @pedrosabino8751
      @pedrosabino8751 Год назад +2

      I wouldn't be surprised if they add the su27 and the f15 too

    • @ursensitiveinagayway4016
      @ursensitiveinagayway4016 19 дней назад

      @@pedrosabino8751lmao bro was not surprised at all and called it😂 We got them recently and we’re getting the F-15C and SU-27SM also😂 kinda funny you called it that long ago.

  • @Pryzim
    @Pryzim Год назад +55

    Something neat about the f-16 is that it is the second plane in history to be able to climb vertically right after takeoff thanks to it's massive 1000 f/s climb rate

    • @skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274
      @skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274 Год назад +7

      i imagine the first one is f104

    • @jacksonbowser4660
      @jacksonbowser4660 Год назад

      I believe also the f15

    • @jacksonbowser4660
      @jacksonbowser4660 Год назад

      @@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274 and the 15

    • @Pryzim
      @Pryzim Год назад +1

      @@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274 f104 was close but wasn't able to climb while pointed straight up because it was to heavy

    • @bias0437
      @bias0437 Год назад +7

      I think the English Electric Lightning was the first

  • @friesingcold
    @friesingcold Год назад +9

    make sure to drop the after burner when popping flares, otherwise the flares wont do jack.

  • @thebandiman
    @thebandiman Год назад +14

    I’m very exited to see this thing in the full game, but good video as usual

  • @roguecorvid2647
    @roguecorvid2647 Год назад +2

    I've got to sit in the cockpit of one of these bad boys and got to do some fun assists with repairs with the ANG for a school to work program. They are one of the lightest fighters out there and it makes them nimble as a dragonfly. We had C/D but they are fantastic for all-rounders. The pilots love them so much

  • @S1su
    @S1su Год назад +104

    Finally a video from you too of this MONSTER! I’m so execited! Let’s show how many people appreciates Phly’s work!

    • @zehunty4130
      @zehunty4130 Год назад +1

      Im ok

    • @tobi2233
      @tobi2233 Год назад +1

      Im execited too!

    • @S1su
      @S1su Год назад +1

      I wonder that if I have the F-14 when the update comes will I have the tier VIII automatically opened bcos the F-14 will be moved to tier VIII

    • @vascoiraola5209
      @vascoiraola5209 Год назад +1

      Mig29 9-13 has a slightly larger spine for increased fuel storage over the base version 9-12. I'll ve honest i think the r73s are fine as is. Relatively easy ro flare. The issue are the r27Ts. Those NEED a flare resistance nerf. The mig29s are missing a good chunk of thrust. Overall i don't it's overpowerd. BUT it's gonna slam everything that packs 10 flares or less

    • @zyzzyx222
      @zyzzyx222 Год назад +1

      @@S1su No, you won't.

  • @The_Ahab
    @The_Ahab Год назад +5

    I would love to see the early version of the F-16 be able to load AIM-7s like it was in real life. If there are 'later variant's involved, they should add the AIM-120 (if not already in the game, I don't know I don't play tons of high tier air craft).

  • @sneakyfungus7356
    @sneakyfungus7356 Год назад +8

    They should also add the Vulcan Bomber. It only came out 5 years after the Lancaster, so the time period works

  • @imana3808
    @imana3808 Год назад +1

    Been waiting for you to try this!!!
    Welcome back

  • @Norbrookc
    @Norbrookc Год назад +8

    The cockpit was designed to give the pilot greater visibility, particularly looking down.

  • @smajl2
    @smajl2 Год назад +4

    Talking about suspended pilot and front wheel being way back. I didn't really noticed this on F16... However I did noticed that on su27 and I LOVE that aspect of that particular plane!

    • @Khotetsu
      @Khotetsu Год назад

      IIRC, the F-16 takes it a step further by having a seat that can be raised up in flight to take full advantage of the bubble canopy and allow the pilot somewhere around 270 degrees of vertical visibility, basically allowing them to spot and track planes almost directly underneath them by visual contact alone.

  • @adrianstachowski9422
    @adrianstachowski9422 Год назад +5

    Clean/2missiles F16 is limited by fbw to 9g's. It can pull more though. During slowing down from mach1 at max elevator viper pulls little more. At least in dcs

  • @koolaid3345
    @koolaid3345 Год назад +5

    Seems like the f-15 will be next to enter the chat hopefully. That mig is crazy

  • @nicholas5634
    @nicholas5634 Год назад +1

    I found that for best performance (As of that battle custom battle you were in (Was in the same one)), flying around .80 Mach allowed for almost no grey/black out on a full pull. Dogfights were close but the F-16 has a good edge if you manage well. Your one teammate, Bedi17 (J-7E) and I had a great low alt dogfight during that match and was anyone's victory until another player came in. Countermeasures proved effective against MiG-29's new missiles but you HAVE to keep an eye out for them and use mixed countermeasures since most MiG-29 players were using both IR and Radar.
    Scout out the air before an attack, pounce on those who look like they have tunnel vision on an ally. If you get into a close (mostly gun) dogfight, watch that speed and a few times I've tried but you can easily get someone to overshoot you with your air break. Without the BVR capacities right now, Mig-29 has great mid to long range advantage, but the F-16 can really hold well in a 1v1.
    If I would've known you were in the same match I would've baited on ya. Love the videos, welcome back, and happy phlying!

  • @Sebastian-yl7nq
    @Sebastian-yl7nq Год назад +5

    They didn't change anything about how fast your pilot blacks out
    It's just that the F-16 is so darn fast and good at keeping its speed that you stay well around the Mach 1 mark while also pulling these 9+G manoeuvres

  • @Shaggy_Rogers0001
    @Shaggy_Rogers0001 Год назад +23

    Fun fact: the 30-06 Springfield cartridge can fire a 180 grain projectile at the same exact velocity as the top speed of the F-15 Strike Eagle, which is 1,875 mph (2,750 ft per sec)!

    • @wave3x660
      @wave3x660 Год назад +4

      In non American terms it’s 3017km/h (840 m/s)

    • @domingofung
      @domingofung Год назад +1

      Fun fact: F16 in game can go faster...

    • @Shaggy_Rogers0001
      @Shaggy_Rogers0001 Год назад

      @@domingofung In real life, the F-15 is over 500 mph faster!

    • @domingofung
      @domingofung Год назад +1

      Adrien McIntire in game the F16 is real too...

    • @Shaggy_Rogers0001
      @Shaggy_Rogers0001 Год назад

      @@domingofung The F-15s top speed is greater than the F-16s.

  • @nebula_nukez_6394
    @nebula_nukez_6394 Год назад +1

    What Phly said about test flight is so me too. I spend so long in the test flight just goofing off and playing out crazy scenarios 😂😂

  • @etekplays4057
    @etekplays4057 Год назад +5

    I’m an F16 crew chief and I am so stoked for this. I’m still stuck on the phantoms but if there is a premium idc I’m buying this jet is literally my heart and soul

    • @daddyfoosa7712
      @daddyfoosa7712 Год назад +1

      They are adding a rank 7 premium attacker, the A6E Tram. That will help you grind out the whole tree really quickly

    • @tyguy6177
      @tyguy6177 Год назад +2

      just a reminder theres the new phantom II premium you could buy :)

  • @spit782
    @spit782 Год назад +4

    Now just need the F-18 and the Eurofighter and the whole Battlefield 2 cast of fighter aircraft is here

  • @itsShiftyYT
    @itsShiftyYT Год назад +1

    Crazy enough, it has a similar sound to the Novalogic F16 game back in the 90’s. Nostalgia.

  • @raizencore
    @raizencore Год назад +2

    So damn beautiphul, such a classy aircraft!

  • @darthkarl99
    @darthkarl99 Год назад +3

    I get the feelign the F-16 has the export version engine, but without digging my book out i'm not 100% sure early US models didn't have a weaker engine. Also as others have mentioned in reality there would be a G limiter built into the control system, (Which also controls the combat flaps, leading edge devices, e.t.c.). The F-16 also as i recall had to have it's control sensitivity at very low velocities reduced due to test pilots suffering excessive tailstrikes due to just how hard it could nose up at even takeoff speeds.

    • @poiu18894012
      @poiu18894012 Год назад +5

      No, gaijin picked some arbitrary number between the export engine and the original engine. The J79 (export engine) produced 10.9k lb (~4944kg) of thrust, while the original F100-PW-200 had 23830LB (10809kg) of thrust. Its a solid 1.5k more thrust then the export version (which the US never used), but its over 5k less then the actual engine. :/

    • @darthkarl99
      @darthkarl99 Год назад

      @@poiu18894012 Cheers, i had a feeling they'd just pulled number out their backsides. But wasn't 100%

  • @Froststrike
    @Froststrike Год назад +3

    The thing about the last video, the F16 that was covered was the F16C. Which has a more powerful engine than the F16A. The F16A having nearly 20000 pounds of force with afterburner. The F16C has 29000 pounds of force (not sure if it’s with or without afterburner and I’m too lazy to check again).

    • @gforce_117
      @gforce_117 Год назад +3

      Yes that’s burner. The early pratts we’re just shy of 24K.

    • @barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188
      @barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188 Год назад

      If they do ever drop the C models, I wonder if it will also have something like the HARM or even just the Sniper pod.

  • @whenarewestony4203
    @whenarewestony4203 Год назад +1

    Hello phly I’ve been watching you forever love the content great work!

  • @Vg-nu4fq
    @Vg-nu4fq Год назад +2

    I never expected this to happen back in 2013 when I joined this fantastic game.

  • @vascoiraola5209
    @vascoiraola5209 Год назад +8

    Mig29 9-13 has a slightly larger spine for increased fuel storage over the base version 9-12. I'll ve honest i think the r73s are fine as is. Relatively easy ro flare. The issue are the r27Ts. Those NEED a flare resistance nerf. The mig29s are missing a good chunk of thrust. Overall i don't it's overpowerd. BUT it's gonna slam everything that packs 10 flares or less

    • @maorys975
      @maorys975 Год назад +2

      Every Russian missle go for first flare they see. I don't see a problem if one UPGRADED missle will ignore flares more.
      Also why you are not complaining about US missles? These ignore flares even better, and USA have these at 9.7...

    • @ki11rea17
      @ki11rea17 Год назад +1

      r27Ts was actually designed to resist flares, locking system has kinda small field of view so it ignores flares more often

    • @vascoiraola5209
      @vascoiraola5209 Год назад

      @@maorys975 i wanna make sex to the mig29 with off boresight r73 💀

    • @kajmak64bit76
      @kajmak64bit76 Год назад +1

      @@maorys975 USA now has 9L's at 10.0
      No more 9.7

    • @vascoiraola5209
      @vascoiraola5209 Год назад

      @@maorys975 R73 are NOT OP nor BUSTED want PROOF? look up this on RUclips: War Thunder First Dev Server Testing The R73 by Dfiestasr

  • @guiderguy5210
    @guiderguy5210 Год назад +4

    The F-16 should actually have around 3200 lbs of thrust more. And should be able to go around mach 1.3 (!) in a straight line on the deck. I hope they will fix it in the final update

    • @blake9908
      @blake9908 Год назад

      when he ripped the flap off, it damaged the aircrafts ability to fly at mach 1.3. ive seen others fly the 16 at mach 1.3 when the airframe was intact.

  • @the_fish_king0151
    @the_fish_king0151 Год назад

    Good to have ya back

  • @adibnorman4690
    @adibnorman4690 Год назад

    i've piloted MIG29 in the airforce (RMAF) for 6 years then being change to F18 G now. Based on my experience, piloting MIG29 NM (smoking bandit) it got superior manueverability, longer range,high capacity ammunition and easy to pilot. MIG29 built to compete with F15 Eagle and F16 Falcon. During mock combat (Cope Predator Exercise July 2020) that i've experienced i managed to shoot down F16 and for your informtion MIG 29 are compitable to equipped with NATO munitions such JDAM and AIM 7/9 not mentioning guided munition but with some platform modification. And last week my F18 doing mock combat with SU30 MKM and its difficult to combat such aircraft with high manuevarability.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 Год назад +6

    Damn I wish I could just half as excited about this as Phly. Or even 10 percent. I'm only here for the Phlyght videos.

  • @axon5887
    @axon5887 Год назад +4

    I can’t wait to spend entire days grinding this

    • @nonautemrexchristus5637
      @nonautemrexchristus5637 Год назад

      It's better to go outside imo but you do you

    • @axon5887
      @axon5887 Год назад

      @@nonautemrexchristus5637 yea ik, my comment is supposed to be lil bit satire

  • @spacewalker1494
    @spacewalker1494 Год назад +2

    I love phly daily, hes the best, i wish i could play with him ones

  • @deadP1xel
    @deadP1xel Год назад +1

    I just finished grinding the F5E, know we play the waiting game

  • @jtrec7157
    @jtrec7157 Год назад +4

    Love the content Phly, keep it up!
    Combo time, non premium P61 black widow and m4a2.
    Attempt 102

  • @stalingrad8975
    @stalingrad8975 Год назад +4

    F-16 the best thing they added

  • @Kyleplier
    @Kyleplier Год назад

    I got on the dev server for the first time yesterday. I'm almost to the jets already. That 5x boost is really nice. Plus SL and RP costs are much lower. At this rate, I'll be at the F-16 before long lol

  • @icfr0st78
    @icfr0st78 Год назад +1

    To think that just over three years ago he's geeking out over the F-100...

  • @apollothedutchie547
    @apollothedutchie547 Год назад +5

    I have a friend that works on these, he loves them, but he describes them as being designed to be very lethal without thinking much about the pilots safety, because like others have said in the past, the limits of the f-16 mostly come down to the pilot

  • @jacksonthomas6280
    @jacksonthomas6280 Год назад +13

    I love the f-16 it's crazy how many g's you can pull in the f-16 there are so many pilots that would black out in the first 10 seconds

    • @David-hi8zw
      @David-hi8zw Год назад +1

      Bro its war thunder

    • @PSC4.1
      @PSC4.1 Год назад +4

      @@David-hi8zw nah, in real life it's extremely maneuverable, not capable of a post stall maneuver without completely stalling like the Mig in this update is capable of, but it was the first American jet fighter capable of pulling a full 9g's without the plane having major issues before the F-22 was even in production, I mean if you watch live videos of the F-16 you'll see just how maneuverable that little jet fighter is, and its become even more so with the more modern versions of it (F-16 V, with better ECM capabilities, greater fuel capacity and better engine thrust capacity as well as upgraded maneuverability with the engine.

    • @rulingmoss5599
      @rulingmoss5599 Год назад +1

      @@David-hi8zw And? I've seen the f-16 fly in person, it turns like crazy.

    • @Chrisdaman001
      @Chrisdaman001 Год назад

      @@David-hi8zw ah yes, "bro it's war thunder" meanwhile other vehicles get 'nerfed' because y'all cried "nOt HiStOrIcAlLy AcCuRaTe"

    • @pugachevskobra5636
      @pugachevskobra5636 Год назад

      Yeah but it’s still war thunder

  • @blackout2116
    @blackout2116 Год назад +1

    Would love to see a f 36 kingsnake or f 16 XL for the next generation of fighters in game

  • @valuecreatinghuman
    @valuecreatinghuman Год назад

    worked on the retrofit program for these beautiful falcons. truly the definition of 'a man strapped to a rocket'

  • @thehoplite7851
    @thehoplite7851 Год назад +12

    I like how he is exited about being able to pull 11gs in the 16, when you are able to pull at least 22 in the premium T-2

    • @ICECAPPEDSKY
      @ICECAPPEDSKY Год назад +2

      The F14 even without the boosters can hit 12G. The F16 compared to everything else in game seems to be actually more realistic as far as flight performance which will hurt it

    • @coyote8427
      @coyote8427 Год назад

      @@ICECAPPEDSKYt’s still gonna be very broken tho, especially late game! but i’m just happy it’s here

    • @ICECAPPEDSKY
      @ICECAPPEDSKY Год назад

      @@coyote8427 from what I’ve seen though MiG 29’s are going to slaughter everything short of the EJkai and the Tomcat maybe. The F16 having no bvr is going to hurt it quite alot

    • @coyote8427
      @coyote8427 Год назад

      @@ICECAPPEDSKY yeah being able to fire the R-27 at someone you’re not even looking at is pretty crazy

    • @fjnagel5454
      @fjnagel5454 Год назад +1

      I mean both are unrealistic forces for a pilot. Most airforces train for a maximum of 9g for a maximum of a few seconds. 11g for 20 seconds will knock you out after seconds and seriously damage your brain for ever. 20 g might straight up kill you and break bones

  • @jimothywhimothy8683
    @jimothywhimothy8683 Год назад +5

    the mig 29 in this video have r 73 and r27t/et, the r27t is a long range heat seeker, which can fire (irl) from 20 or so kilometres away, and the r73 is a high off bore sight missile with a 15 km max range. I think its kind of nuts how the put, what is basically the Russian aim 9x, on the mig 29, when early variants had r60's
    edit: prototype, not early

    • @Clueless09
      @Clueless09 Год назад +1

      It’s so OP

    • @kajmak64bit76
      @kajmak64bit76 Год назад +2

      It's actually kinda worse then R-60M from my experience using it
      If not it's a copy paste R-60M with bigger bore sight and thrust vectoring
      + R-73 is what caused Aim-9X to be made... soo yeah

    • @ajee3229
      @ajee3229 Год назад +3

      The R-73's development was completed in the same year as the MiG-29

    • @DerRusher
      @DerRusher Год назад +1

      bro do your research before crying. the prototypes used R60 but when it actually entered production / service, the r73 was already done and used instead of the r60.

    • @jimothywhimothy8683
      @jimothywhimothy8683 Год назад

      @@DerRusher ok thanks for telling me, I'm only basing this off my pretty basic knowledge from dcs.

  • @fancyultrafresh3264
    @fancyultrafresh3264 Год назад

    About phucking time you came back :’)

  • @ghostgr43
    @ghostgr43 Год назад

    So I’ve followed you for quite sometime. Love your videos. I’ve got a friend I play with on Ark and he sounds literally just like you. It’s so funny cuz he didn’t know who you were until I shared a video with him and the rest of our friends.

  • @maeckknox6535
    @maeckknox6535 Год назад +4

    hey phly based off of the engine this is a block15OCU so when there is a cockpit it will be the wide angle HUD and has provisions for Aim-120s

    • @BeerSougion
      @BeerSougion Год назад +1

      So you are telling us Gaijin went shopping for a weaker engine and skipped on the missiles? We new they were able to fuck up the F16A but still disappointed.

    • @maeckknox6535
      @maeckknox6535 Год назад +1

      @@BeerSougion The F-100-PW-220 is the most advanced A model engine with better dynamic thrust but less static thrust than previous F-100-PW-200 and F-100-PW-100 engines. the no radar missiles is a gaijin screwing the players yet again

    • @squidwardo7074
      @squidwardo7074 Год назад

      they can't give it aim120s without making it 12.0 at least

    • @BeerSougion
      @BeerSougion Год назад

      @@squidwardo7074 Just move the F14 to 14.0 and the MiG and F-16 beyond that. That way we can decompress every rank more or less 0.3 and enjoy all planes more again.

    • @southernbear736
      @southernbear736 Год назад

      You know AIM-120As are just sparrows with an active seeker head right?

  • @BugattiONE666
    @BugattiONE666 Год назад +3

    I'm a loss for words. Guys. IT IS FOOD FOR MIG 29. WHY LET GAIJIN THINK WE ARE OK WITH THIS. Don't even get me started on the Tornado, which doesn't even have fucjing flares

    • @showtime1004
      @showtime1004 Год назад +2

      Russian game dev makes Russian plane OP AF, cause "if we can't win the real war, we are sure gonna win the fake one"
      seems legit lol

    • @Kuutti_original
      @Kuutti_original Год назад

      I wouldnt be afraid of MIG 29, what im really afraid of is the SU27 which this 4th generation promise will open the doors for.

  • @leon886
    @leon886 Год назад +2

    I feel like this is gonna fly like the f5 in which I will be a okay with!!

  • @wolfenwingsable
    @wolfenwingsable Год назад

    I was a weapons loader on F16s. Great aircraft but difficult to work on. Itd be interesting to have a newer model with AIM9X.

  • @Tim_Franklin
    @Tim_Franklin Год назад +1

    My local ANG wing flies F-16s (148th Go Bulldogs!). Unbelievably cool to have it in the game. I remember having conversations when this game first came out about the possible future we are now seeing. The idea of one day seeing anything like a Tornado, Fulcrum, or Falcon in the game was seen as laughable. My how things have changed.

  • @ahmadm.4843
    @ahmadm.4843 Год назад +4

    You should play the mig29 next

    • @jtl05
      @jtl05 Год назад

      he said he would in the intro

  • @victortinti
    @victortinti Год назад +3

    Day 443: Phly, I challenge you to get 8 kills in one game with the SU-5-1. This MBT/Tank Destroyer is severely underloved in your channel.

  • @Aidan-fw1xr
    @Aidan-fw1xr Год назад +1

    There is definitely some balance issues with the Mig 29s missiles but other than that this will be a fun update!

  • @garf5704
    @garf5704 Год назад +1

    Good video. Quality gameplay. Entertaining voiceover. Like.

  • @sunnyboysanpedro
    @sunnyboysanpedro Год назад

    It would also help if you brought mixed countermeasures since the R-73 is all aspects

  • @JaidzEU
    @JaidzEU Год назад

    Love the F16, seen it a few times at RIAT

  • @tokyosplash8584
    @tokyosplash8584 Год назад

    These taking off with full after burner is one of the loudest things i work around

  • @ramal5708
    @ramal5708 Год назад +1

    I remember the times when new millennium began and played the game Falcon 4.0, it's my first flight games ever.

  • @Luckydog1159
    @Luckydog1159 Год назад

    A far as I recall, the F-16C Block 40 is rated operationally to a limit of 7.5 Gs. Now in combat that restriction is reduced to 9.5Gs in small increments (no longer than 5-10 seconds at a time). Even then, the pilot has to report if they exceed 7.5 Gs to maintenance because then they have to gut the plane and inspect the frame for cracks. Seriously, pulling 7 Gs is no joke, pulling 9 is unheard of but by idiots or legends to save their own skin. If the games 11G load limit was used IRL, the wings would snap off. No "probably or maybe" It would rip the wings off the fuselage.

  • @jfv2312
    @jfv2312 Год назад +2

    The F-16 looks cool and all, but I'm really worried about what the Mig-29/IRST/R-27/R-73 combo will do to top tier. I know the F-14 is still there, but a later F-16 variant with AIM-7s would've made more sense imo. And if that wasn't enough, stuff like the Mig-23MLD and Mig-27 could get R-73s as well.

  • @corathus
    @corathus Год назад

    Welcome back Phly.
    Could you please take out the I-16 type 10 it's a highly agile, phun and deadly phighter.

  • @tropic2464
    @tropic2464 Год назад +1

    I role play in test flight to its fun but in multiplayer when you have a friend playing with you in your own custom battle that's when you make the tight formations.

  • @TheMetalfreak360
    @TheMetalfreak360 Год назад +1

    F-16 is my favorite plane of all time, with F4U on a close second. I will never be able to grind to it, but goddamn I am glad to see it in the game. F-16 is so sexy, I will never forget the day I saw it when I was in the military here in Norway.

  • @NuclearFalcon146
    @NuclearFalcon146 Год назад +1

    The C model with the F110 has that extra thrust but the A model is also lighter so the TW ratio is still similar. The Viper also shouldn't let you manually control the flaps, they are tied to the landing gear. Also the FLCS will not allow you to pull 11Gs, it will limit you to 9. The Viper is full fly-by-wire and the way it operates is you ask the plane to do something and it tries within the programmed limits to do what you are asking.
    The MiG-29's R-73 missiles are the best in that era. They have thrust vectoring so they are very comparable to a longer ranged all-aspect SRAAM. Later models of the F-16 would get the AIM-9X which was developed in response to the R-73 and is even more insane. Also the introduction of the AIM-120 AMRAAM makes the later versions of the F-16 much, MUCH, more lethal than earlier models.
    As for derping around the carrier like that, you will probably love the F/A-18 once it comes out.

    • @barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188
      @barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188 Год назад

      I'll be interested to see how they get the HARM Targetting system to work if they ever add it

    • @NuclearFalcon146
      @NuclearFalcon146 Год назад

      @@barronhelmutschnitzelnazi2188 That is a feature of later model F-16s, not the A model. That said in DCS that pod makes targeting for the HARMs very easy.

  • @randomgameshorts.
    @randomgameshorts. Год назад +1

    I love this content so much!

  • @AmbassadorZim
    @AmbassadorZim Год назад

    phlyyearly is back! yes! im so excited!

  • @commitselfdeletus9070
    @commitselfdeletus9070 Год назад

    Phly the MiG’s flight model isn’t finished yet. It currently has the F14’s model or sm

  • @sotarastas7274
    @sotarastas7274 Год назад

    Seeing the missile lobbing MiG-29 get shredded with guns felt so satisfying to watch

  • @liammurren7668
    @liammurren7668 Год назад +1

    the F-16A had a thrust of about 10430 kilograms on afterburner and not the 9000 it says in the game

  • @blazept567
    @blazept567 Год назад +1

    Along with the F-14, these are the most beautiful pieces of engineering ever created by man.

  • @Takemura76
    @Takemura76 Год назад +2

    The top speed is a little bit off on the stat card for the F16A. It should be just a tad higher.

    • @BeerSougion
      @BeerSougion Год назад

      Engine should be way better.

  • @pivello
    @pivello Год назад +1

    Wow the P996 Lazer in war thunder!

  • @pointman2
    @pointman2 Год назад

    teh hook is not for carrier landings, but incase of a emergency for example if the brakes stop working, they can deploy barriers on the runway and the tailhook will catch em'

  • @guildmeister6499
    @guildmeister6499 Год назад

    This was the first military jet I became familiar when I saw it in Iron Eagle.

  • @n1co2017
    @n1co2017 Год назад +2

    that rate of climb is just insane.
    and the r-73 is absolute bullshit like how the dude’s nose is like 20 degrees off of yours and he launches at 1km and it hits you how

  • @mfree80286
    @mfree80286 Год назад

    Regarding pilot G-forces, all you have to do to find a working example is look at Red Bull Air Racing, where they had to implement penalties for exceeding 10G for longer than 0.6 seconds, up to a DNF for exceeding 12G.

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 Год назад

    My neighbor has 4 Mig 29s, first private owner in the world. He also supposedly bought a bunch of F18 from australia but i have yet to see any of them

  • @Mr.Nyceguy
    @Mr.Nyceguy Год назад

    Good stuff Phly

  • @FESHHESH
    @FESHHESH Год назад

    Man I wish they put like the smoke effect like when the jet turns

  • @TheHawk1202
    @TheHawk1202 Год назад

    From my own research I can tell a thing or two about the rivalry between the F16 and the Mig 29. When Germany re-united the luftwaffe got 20 something East German mig 29’s. Of course short time after that they made some exercices with Mig29’s facing the F16s. From what you can read on the internet the Mig29 won 49 dogfights out of 50 against the F16 but in BVR the Mig 29 stood no chance. BUT, never forget that the biggest factor is the pilot. Also you can find a wonderful video of those German Mig29 fighting with Swiss F 18s. Peace out !

  • @initiative_general2227
    @initiative_general2227 Год назад

    I wonder if War Thunder would do experimental airframes. Like, I would love to see the v-1600 which is the carrier-borne concept for the f-16.

  • @HAMlLTON
    @HAMlLTON Год назад +1

    Phlydaddy has blessed us

  • @aviosche8951
    @aviosche8951 Год назад +2

    F-16 is nice and all but now that they are coming out I am expecting F-16XL too which is one of my favourite planes if not THE favourite.

  • @PDawg2017
    @PDawg2017 Год назад +1

    I was really happy to see the f16 being added. That is until i saw what branch in the tech tree its in :’)

    • @439sparky1
      @439sparky1 Год назад

      I mean, where else would they put it?

  • @billygaulinjr3920
    @billygaulinjr3920 Год назад

    Great video!

  • @AaronRheins.
    @AaronRheins. Год назад

    Might have to play this now that the F-16 is here 👀