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The Mystery Of Karen Silkwood
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- Karen Silkwood was a lab technician and union activist at the Kerr-McGee Cimarron Facility in Oklahoma. While there she had witnessed employee safety concerns as well as some alleged fraud. She was on her way to Oklahoma City to report her findings when things mysteriously changed. Karen's story was also told in the movie Silkwood.
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I remember when this happened. I was horrified at her treatment by the company. Bless her forever, for her courage and determination.
Before Erin Brockovich there was Karen Silkwood. "Silkwood" the movie had a lasting impression on me. Thank you for this informative recap and for remembering Ms. Silkwood. May she never be forgotten.
Yes, she was the original one that paved the way. Thanks for watching and commenting. My goal was to keep her story going and her memory alive. It looks like that's happening.
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Yes the movie had a lasting impression on me too. I knew it to be a true story. I have thought of her now and again. So glad this man made such a good video about her. He did a wonderful job.
Thank you
Silkwood 2 - in IMAX 3D
Wow! I thought the same, honest bf I came to your comment. We all from 'current time's' know she survived, but the light was shown on the people living near & around the Hinkley plant that suffered with lifelong effects, too.
Thanks for keeping her memory alive and not letting her or her hard work disappear.
You're welcome and thanks goes to you as well for watching. That helps keep her memory alive as well.
shes one of many that's made to disapeer to cover up for billion dollar corporations to keep doing wrong,theres no way to know how common this actually is
@@RhettyforHistory She wasn't the only one the Nuke Industry murdered.
Never tell anyone what you're planning to do, just do it.
I think that's best.
Especially in this case!
People get killed every day , driving. A Honda Scamp wasn't very safe. The thing probably didn't have seat belts. Also had drugs and was using them. No, no. It's a conspiracy.
This is true, the unfortunate part about that is, that within groups / unions there is always at least one corrupt individual who will sell out the group and or the person/s organizing an action in pursuit of their own goals/agendas.
@@MaryjanezMom420 Just seeing your response today.
Karen Silkwood did not die in vain .. a few years after her death a movie was made 'Silkwood' with Meryl Streep, 1983, I owned an industrial refrigeration company at the time... I saw the movie, without any thought of selling the business or consulting... but knew somehow that I would I would get involved, the movie had enraged me that much.
I ended up selling the business a year later then began consulting, one of my early projects was at the Handford nuclear weapons reservation in Hanford eastern washington state.. I had done a few other nuclear related projects earlier and told one of the engineers there about Karen Silkwood, and that I wanted to get into a similarly corrupt plant just so I could look those people in the eye... he asked me if i was serious... 6 months later I was at the Plutonium Finishing plant at Hanford...it had notorious issues, whistle blowers were numerous and silenced..
I was asked to sign off safety surveys on many of the facilities there without my personal inspection (a patsy position I am not a nuclear systems engineer)
At a meeting to discuss some of these issues I was called into a meeting with several of the managers, and other staff at which I was told to clam up or I would have a very difficult time ever getting another job anywhere doing anything.
I kept investigating and remembered what happened to Karen, shortly after I was ask to leave the site.... those morons let me take a huge box full of papers and floppy disc out with me... then a day later they called me at the motel I was staying at.. stuttering and semi coherent and ask "wwwhat wwwas in tthat Bbbig box you tttook with you"... then I was visited by two armed agents with gun butts visible under their jackets.....
I told them that I ate a lot of baloney sandwiches, and they had many slices of baloney in them and they were very very heavy, and since the site had been declassified under the SALT agreement..that I also had the right to take copies of my work product with me.... that they were no longer in my possession. (they were at the copy shop)
Remembering Karen I made 6 or 8 copies of the material and floppy discs... sent them all around with a note that if I did not call or write them every year with a full comment on what the code was, to drop the package in the mail (pre addressed). That is called a dead mans letter.
I called Mary, Westinghouse Hanford Presidents secretary at the time...I asked her to tell her boss that if I ended up with a hang nail, or an itcy arse, or carbuckle, or a bullet hole in my head, all 6 of those packages would go into the mail. Then I called their lead attorney, forgot his name, Duggan or something like that, he laughed at me over the phone.
A few years later, I testified before the US congress for 2 and a half hours about what was going on at that 530 square mile facility..
One year later Westinghouse Hanford lost their 5 billion dollar a year contract. Dugan or whatever his name was ceased laughing. Tom Carpenter, attorney at the Govt accountability project in Kennewick filed a law suit on my behalf, and i got a cash settlement and letter of commendation from the Dept of Energy for doing such fine work.
Karens father also sued, and received a 6.5 million dollar judgement for the death of his daughter, who at the time was said to be found with a bullet hole in her head.. (that account is now apparently white washed away leaving out any mention of a bullet hole in her head).
I thanked Karens father who was living in Texas at the time, with tears in my eyes for her contribution...I took a different approach than Karen did, I learned from her mistake, putting a bullet in my head would not have worked out well for that scum.... and i have passed it on. (the dead letter approach).
Since then we have Julian Assange and wiki leaks on even more serious issues. the swamp is murderously nasty, cowards to the core.
Its been over 30 years I might have the time line screwed up a bit, and i am an old man now... 78... 5 years ago I was in a small mayan village in guatemala, eating a shrimp cocktail and met a man and his Mayan wife...he recognized me and we talked, he is currently still working on exposing that site.
Philip E Scott.
Wow!
Then you likely know about the Hanford Archives which were dedicated July 25, 1996, and open to the public, Philip. The information there was incredible as to what really went on in that plant. Surprisingly, they lost their funding after only one year. The last I heard, all the files were in a basement at Gonzaga. There were hundreds of letters from people who worked there, letters from people who developed cancer, letters from downwinders (of which I am one!), etc.
@@GlennaVan . I am sorry to hear that. The downwind experiments were about as murderously evil as the the US govt sponsoring live syphilis bacteria injections into 2500 or so Guatemalan men telling them it was beneficial when the real reason was to study the morbidity in them, their wives and children over a 20 year period...with no treatment as the disease continues to take its gruesome toll even today.. same with the down winders...do we have follow up studies documented on the results? or is that still whitewashed over?
There is a larger picture from what I can tell... a pattern ... I called it the octopus when i was testifying.... it is ruining america's integrity to sub basement levels.. I think if we knew the extent of what is going on we would throw up.... some of us know, hopefully it will be exposed as promised lately.
I wish you Gods speed, in spades Glenna...and highest level spiritual communion. that I believe is the only way out...one must transcend it, then it goes the way of all corruption, it self destructs.
Phil Scott
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@@Phil_Scott Sir...this is amazing stuff. I absolutely stumbled onto this thread. I am glad I did. True coincidences are rare. I suspect I'm here for a reason.
Your hope that, due to recent events, maybe things can change here in the U.S., does not seem to be happening....just the opposite, it appears.
People say this ALL the time, but I will say it to you, now....Thank YOU for your service. Is this incident you lived through why you moved to Guatemala.?
phil scott interesting story, right down to the cocktail. I live close to Kilgore. Gonna stop by and pay my respects one day.
What I think was more suspicious was the Kerr-McGee paperwork that Karen had in her car were gone. You did a good job telling this interesting sad story
Thank you Captain. I wanted to try and keep her memory alive.
I'm quite certain they didn't count on the truck driver telling he picked up the papers and put them in the car. It is more than a coincidence that Kerr-McGee people were by there before law enforcement and the papers were gone when they arrived. The papers didn't just evaporate.
@@GlennaVan yeah them being there was just a big coincidence lol things like that don't JUST happen. They were the ones that hit her. They may not have meant to kill her, at that time anyway but, they did and they seized the moment and took those papers when no one was watching.
@@RhettyforHistory how is Kerr-McGee doing ?
The plant closed in 1975. The corporation sold to Anadarko Petroleum in 2006 for 16 billion.
After watching *Silkwood* today (I had seen it years ago, too), I came searching RUclips for tributes and found this video. I'm glad you made it because the story needs to be remembered. Something isn't right with how Karen's life ended. So thank you for making this video. ❤️
You're welcome and thank you for watching. I do think her story needed to be retold as many people have either forgotten or just didn't know about it. There are so many unanswered questions and I'm not sure we will ever know.
@@RhettyforHistory Yes indeed, and thank you again for doing that. 🤗
I remember watching this movie in the theater. I'm not sure if I had seen Meryl Streep act before, but this is my first memory of her in a film. Just 3 years prior I had watched the movie "The China Syndrome" that included a fantastic performance by Jack Lemmon. I had grown suspicious of the nuclear power industry while I was in high school in the 1960's when I became aware of the problems of nuclear waste. There was a huge marketing effort in the 1960's declaring nuclear power as a miraculous technology promising it would be a magic bullet for all of humanity. After reading some articles about the challenge of managing nuclear waste I asked my dad what he thought of nuclear power. He was a very far right conservative and like so many men who grew up during the Great Depression, was enamored by wealth and opportunities to make money. At the time, he had been a aerospace engineer for nearly 30 years and was working on the Apollo project. He said "any device that uses something more toxic than anything on earth, which depends on a safety system designed, built and operated by humans, is not a good idea." He mentioned that fraud and safety shortcuts would become a large factor. I think back and am amazed by his insight and frank words, despite his political and personal perspective.
With this experience and my reading I watched these two films. I was not surprised. The fact that the movie "Silkwood" was based on a true story made me quite angry. As time has passed I have become more and more suspicious of large corporations.
This is an excellent video and I hope it gets a lot of views. This story should never die.
That is some interesting insight from your father. He sounded like an intelligent man. Thanks for sharing your story and his as well as watching.
I’ve been looking for the movie silkwood but have been unable to find it anywhere online.
Where did you find it?
You did a wonderful job covering this story this is so sad
Thank you Mary. I had never heard of this story until a little more than a week ago. I tried to do as much research as I could.
I saw the movie Silkwood when it first came out. I didn't realize or I forgot that it took place in Oklahoma. I bet you're the only RUclipsr has vlogged this. Very interesting and so nice that you included their graves at the end!
Up until a little more than a week ago I had never heard of this story or the movie. When I mentioned it to Sarah she of course had. I knew that I wanted to cover it though. I figured there were probably a lot of other people like me who had no idea about it. It's something that shouldn't be forgotten. The movie was never filmed in Oklahoma and I saw some little flaws in it
I wanted to present something that showed the actual locations of where things happened. I really didn't see anyone else that had done that. I just wanted to do her story a little justice. Thank you for watching and commenting my friend.
@@RhettyforHistory That's probably why I didn't associate this story with OK. Movies take many licenses with the facts. You definitely did her justice. Part of why I like doing my channel is because I'm always learning something new, too. It's so hard to find things that haven't already been vlogged to death by everyone. I'm glad you find them!
I love to seek out things that aren't well know. History is a funny thing to study. I have no idea why some things are remembered or well known while other things are not.
@@RhettyforHistory Congrats on all the views for this vlog. And even more congrats for your first ONE MILLION channel views!! Pretty soon we won't be small RUclipsrs any longer and then we'll miss these early day :-)
Thank you Steve! I sure hope I have that problem of missing these days! It would be a good problem to have!
I’ve always avoided doing any business with Kerr McGee due to her story.
One of their gas stations closed a short while after that movie here in illinois
Great story. I worked for a power plant in Illinois for 35 years. The utility was always flush with money and I always saw the politicians and the law go along with everything the company needed.
Thank you and that is interesting to hear what you experienced. Lobbying can be powerful.
Yeah, they do thar for DePaul university. They've permanently blocked off a block and wanted ANOTHER blocked off! Public roads!
One of my favorite movies of all time. The trailer, with Meryl Streep being tailgated by a car with their high beams on, and her adjusting the rear view mirror is iconic. Very cool of you to show us the actual places. (IMO They clearly killed her).
Thank you John. I just saw that movie for the first time a week and a half ago. It is good. I just wanted to show the actual places. I had never heard the story before and I'm not sure why. I think it's something that should never be forgotten over time.
Love you, son
She needed a hero...
so she became one.
She had such courage.
Sad...
Great job telling her story.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching!
P L ALovely tribute to her. Thank you.
'She needed a hero, so she became one.' What a wonderful line. With your blessing, I would love to adopt it as part of the philosophy of my life Journey and always remember and live by it. 'When you need a hero, become one.' Thank you PL.
After watching the series Chernobyl n remembering d movie Silkwood it makes me realize countries tell lies lies n more lies...it takes courageous people to be the truth tellers🙏
You deserve a Medal. What a brave Man you are. Good job.God Bless you
Thank u for this. She deserves to be remembered. I have a original silkwood poster hanging in my den today
You're welcome and thank you for watching and commenting. I'm sure there aren't many of those posters.
I wonder how many of her coworkers that turned their back on her now have died from cancer.
That's a good question.
It's 50 years later. Probably a few would have died of cancer either way.
I remember this 1974 incident well. Very good coverage ! I was a Tulsa County Special Deputy Sheriff at that time. I always had suspicions about her death.
Thanks for watching and commenting Ron. It's a very strange and sad story. To me it seems like so many things could have been done differently.
Ron H. There’s a movie “Silkwood” with Meryl Streep and Cher.
ScotIre Land Oh, Yes, it’s a great film!
Alice In VanLand yep there sure is. In fact RhettyforFun makes a reference to it in his video, this video
It's sad that these large corporations can make our laws, pollute our planet, infiltrate our government and get away with murder, all while claiming to be a person....only in America. smh
This is the first video I’ve seen where the host goes to the location instead of just showing pictures. Great addition!
I prefer to show the locations in everything I do if I can. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Sometimes the biggest mysteries transpire in the smallest of towns. Karen Silkwood, we love and miss you, baby.
My late uncle was a chemist for this company in the late 80’s to mid 90’s In Texas. He talked about this before and said it was a known fact by company employees that management had a hit put on her. He also said that they thought the original management had mob ties before.
That's interesting.
She was a real American hero who died trying to protect her coworkers, people who didn’t even understand what she was trying to do for them. She was an amazing person. Thank you for keeping her story current.
You're welcome. I definitely wanted to do something that kept her memory alive and her story going I also saw that no one had ever shown all of the locations that were involved. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for reminding/making people aware of what has happened in the past!
Hopefully someone who is still alive and knows the truth about Karen Silkwood's death comes forward and tells everything. *Fingers crossed*
You're welcome. Thanks for watching and commenting.
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Unless they have something to gain and no fear of prosecution they wont. You NEVER tell anyone what you're up to if you suspect corruption. A lot of people hated her and wanted her dead at the time when she started trying to expose the company. Coworkers living in rural Oklahoma would have hated her feeling like she's trying to shut down one of the few companies that gave them much need jobs and of course the company owners themselves. Karen Silkwood did good for the people, but unfortunately some will Never see it that way. Her coworkers some of them hated her and saw her as that woman that cost them their jobs and the company owners definitely hated her and wanted her dead for obvious reasons.
When you're corrupt the last thing you want is to be exposed. So you make the whistle blower disappear. I feel like too many either hasted her or were too fearful for their own lives to come forward if they knew anything. An for good reason since she was murdered, they knew they'd be next if they said anything. Whistle blowers should always be very secretive for their own safety. Your coworkers are NOT your friends and that's true of any place you work. People will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat if they think this help keep their job secure or to move up in the company. Karen Silkwood did a good thing but she was very naïve and let everyone know what she was doing.
Kerr McGee execs arrive before police, papers are all missing, duh.... She was from town where I'm from. Very respectable family.
Down in Texas?
She was from Nederland, Texas.
TheyDidItAlright
Yeah? Then why did she abandon her 3 young children? Respectable my ass. Just trash.
@@jensmom604 You are the trash. If you have to ask why then you obviously have no idea what was going on with her ex and you should keep your mouth shut
Thank you for this tribute to a brave woman💖
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
How brave do you have to be to walk out on your kids? She'd be alive if she had any values
@@chiefswife1212 Did you ever think that she may have done that to protect them? She felt that workers were getting exposed. People getting Cancer. Look at things from a DIFFERENT perspective.
I remember the movie about her it is so sad and also evil that a company could do this to someone
I agree. Even if you discount that they did something to cause the accident how could the lack of safety concerns be discounted? Overall the company could have done a better job in many areas. Thanks for watching and commenting Mary!
You would be surprised what companies have done to keep making money and not go bankrupt. Murder is no surprise.
I was just a little girl when she was killed.. Thank You for bringing Karen Silkwoods crusade for all.. I have seen some of the movie it was just to intense for me to see her being abused and then killed for trying to do the right thing.. You be careful also sir, even the past has people who are still bitter.
Thank you. I appreciate you watching and commenting. It's a sad story but I'm glad others are learning about her thru my video.
She was murdered! The fact the steering wheel was tilted forwards tells me that her car was deliberately rammed from behind! Makes me wonder how big the vehicle doing the ramming was. And the person who ran her off the road must have been driving at double the pisted speed limit! RIP Karen. May your courage live on.
Someone may very well have been trying to kill her. But the bent wheel is 100% not evidence of that. She could have woken up as her axel hit that first part of the barrier.
The evidence that someone was trying to kill her is the contamination outside of work. It sounds like someone contaminated her apartment and eventually gave her roommate cancer as well.
I remember Karen silkwood. Such a sweetheart to get involve something like this. I don't understand why the union couldn't provide a Bodyguard
Seems like they should have especially after Nov. 7th.
michael flegel people were naive then. We didn’t realize to what lengths powerful men would go to in order to protect their wealth. Just like we have been niave to think the laws today would hold water and whistle blowers would be protected.
Exactly . I agree 100% Roxy.@@RoxyAnny..8b
@@RoxyAnny..8b Whistle blowers NEVER are protected and generally not a good thing to rock the boat.
Because unions are in bed with big business and the government! Unions are owned by democrats! National Divorce!
I believe they killed her, and put the joints in her purse. It's always been about money...not lives. Very sad.
The Qualudes were a prescription and it was well known that she smoked pot. She and her boyfriend did. I know the KM defense tried to play that up and make her character questionable. But there were a whole lot of other things they couldn't pin on her.
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Its pretty sad
@@RhettyforHistory thanks for the extra info. So they smoked pot, not a big deal, to me. It sickened me, when they kept giving her those horrible scrub downs. They had to have exposed her to it.
@Sinjinbin 64 whatever.
Very sad story. I saw this movie as a child. Maryl Streep played Karen Silkwood. Even though it was so sad. It made a real impact on me.
It is a sad story. The movie definitely gives you a general idea of what went on.
I haven't seen this movie Silkwood, now I want to see it.
I remember seeing this movie. Ending scene was done so low key but so intense ....
I think she would have been to pumped up for that drive to fall asleep. The documents were gone from the car . They knew where she was going that night so they had her killed .
There are way too many suspicious happenings. And even if we discount that Kerr McGee did that on purpose or not at all there are wat more unanswered questions. And all of those point towards the company not handling this situation good.
RhettyforFun I agree... they handled the whole situation poorly . I just feel they had enough with her . They had to get rid of the problem and that problem was Karen. Really a sad story. She was so young .
She was an autocross driver and she used thar car. She knew how to drive.
I have zero doubt she was intentionally run off the road.
I went to the movie theater back in the day and saw this movie. Supposedly she had the documents to take to a meeting to expose. Kerr McGee for their criminal acts. Not only was she going thru being ridiculed by everyone scrubbed to death. Poor girl. She was murdered. No doubt. Thank you for bringing back her memory. RIP Ms. Silkwood
You're welcome and thank you for watching.
I watched the movie SILKWOOD as a child and was mesmerised by the story. Sadly, in our country whistleblowers aren't treated the way they should be. They're are threatened & intimidated to toe the company line. Much too often money & power win out. Karen Silkwood is a true American hero who was clearly murdered at the hands of greedy, power hungry people.
She stood for something important, people's safety, for people too afraid to speak out for themselves, she had the courage!! Ms. Silkwood and others like her should be celebrated and never forgotten. She's a true American hero!
Thank you for watching.
You know, I wonder if they werent "tripping" that alarm on purpose to give her scrubbings as punishment for whistelblowing
They were
If she kept testing positive, , why weren't her two roommates ever positive?
That is the number one question I wasn't answered. Out of all these comments only one other person has said that so that makes 3 people wondering the same thing.
@@RhettyforHistory I find it incredibly odd that they say as small as a period amount ( . ) Was dangerous and triggered the alarms, it all reeks of cover ups, silence tactics. May she rest in peace.
It was the scientist and doctors outside of the company and industry that said that. In fact you can Google and listen to the actual recording that they had with Karen and the other union members in the American Legion I showed. As far as the company was concerned it wasn't that dangerous and if exposed the scrub down would take care of exposure.
Very thorough video of hero, Karen Silkwood. Lovely of you to make this.
She needs and deserves to be remembered.
Thank you Haven. I appreciate you watching. I definitely wanted to share her story so that she wouldn't be forgotten.
Well done documentary here sir. Thumbs up!
Thank you! I appreciate you watching.
I now live in Bethany/Oklahoma City area. I never knew all of the details about Karen. I feel a need to see these places. Thank you for this compelling albeit sad story about this beautiful brave woman! RIP KAREN SILKWOOD 🌹🌹🌹❤❤❤🌹🌹🌹
I was born just days before this happening. I never knew about it and I'm not sure how I had never knew about the movie or anything else. Once I found out about it I wanted to know everything I could. I felt like it was time to bring her name back out again. Keep her memory and story going. I watched all the documentaries there were and none of them showed the locations i did. So I wanted to show those things since they are part of the story. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@RhettyforHistory thank you so much for bringing her story back into the light. I am already planning a special trip to see these places to honor her life. I will place flowers where she left this earthly life. 🌹❤Blessings for you and your family.
If you go to that culvert let me know if that hubcap is still there or if there is anything else that is left. I'm curious if things are left but someone takes them.
@@RhettyforHistory I certainly will. That's the main place I want to visit.
The cemetery is on Rockwell just past 50th. He give a pretty good description of the location. It's on the east side of the road
I saw that movie when it first came out and remember the incident all too well. When it comes to big companies, the "little guy" hasn't a chance in h*ll. I myself, was hurt at work, but checked out by "company doctors", proven I was "fine". I've had surgery and several injections, but now disabled. But I'm "fine"...R.I.P Karen, we know you were right. ♡ Thank you RhettyforFun for keeping this story alive!
You're welcome. I appreciate you watching and helping to spread her story.
this whole thing reeks horribly. She was a good woman that was speaking up about dangers the public had no idea they were facing. My Grandfather admired her very much. it helped him stand up about the radioactive the Santa Susana Field Laboratory in Los Angeles. the things these Corporations have done to us all is disgusting.
Over twenty years ago I was a freelance videographer, and as such I spent a great deal of time videotaping depositions for lawsuits. One such lawsuit involved Farmland Industries. During the months I spent working on this job I witnessed the depositions of hundreds of employees that had worked there during the 70's and 80's. Included were the Presidents of the company. I remember one in particular: James L Rainey. I remember him because of how uncomfortable I was around him. He sucked all the air out of the room when he came in. His eyes looked black and he showed a TOTAL lack of emotion during the three days they questioned him. When the attorney for the plaintiff asked me later what I thought of him I told him I'd rather spend a week with the devil than another hour in that man's presence. He laughed and said off handily, "You know he was president of Kerr Mcgee when Karen Silkwood died , right?" I told him I had no idea, but after meeting him, it left no doubt in my mind that Karen's death was no accident. I later learned he was brought into Farmland specifically for his ability to, "cut the cooperate fat." It's what he was good at because he didn't care who lost their jobs as long as the company rebounded. I enjoyed your video. Looking forward to watching more.
Wow! That's a chilling story about him. It would definitely make your hair stand up. You had a very video description of who he was. Thanks for sharing your story. It's hard to believe he went on like that. Makes me wonder what else he might have done.
Some powerful people only do listen to the demons that tell them what to do. Lie, torture, intimidate, threaten, murder, kill, destroy. Some people are.
@@RhettyforHistory Wait till you read about the manager of where the bombs are put together in Texas. Pantex I think it is.
Well, to be fair, it is not his job to worry about who loses their job if his job is to "cut the corporate fat". So many people speak against large corporations and lay-offs, but do nothing but complain and are not willing to sacrifice for their fellow American job. I would be willing to pay $10.00 more for an air-conditioner to keep them being made here and my fellow American brother and sisters employed or pay 25 cents more for gas to keep my fellow oil and gas grunts working to put food on the table, but most people will not, hence the booming Walmart. Now, I love Walmart, but it is a symptom of something greater. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Well said, right down to your impeccable punctuation. 👍
I subscribed. Excellent presentation with dignity and respect.
Thank you. I appreciate you watching.
Wonder how many of those employees died of cancer.....
I was curious about the same exact thing. I've tried to research that and I can't find anything on it. I think it would make a great story for the news.
@@RhettyforHistory I wonder how many of us children now almost retirement age have health problems. I only lived there for 4 yrs..1966 to 1970
My parents bought some land and put a double wide trailer on it back in the mid 80's. Several people bought land and built their homes or either put a double wide trailer on their land . It became a neighborhood , but they sold off the land between 2 chemical plants. My mother still lives there , but there has been so many people that has died of cancer or has some kind of cancer or illness from living in that neighborhood. I moved away when I was about 19 , but my husband and I moved back into that neighborhood when I was about 24 . We lived there for 11 years. My husband and I both got cancer , but thank the Lord we survived it . My step dad got throat cancer , but he died about 5 years ago . A month after he died their neighbor died of throat cancer. 2 other men down the road from my parent's also had or has throat cancer. There's several more that have died of cancer and I just found out about a young man that grew up there has cancer too . My mother even got a notice in the mail a few years ago telling them that their water may or may not be contaminated . They all have well water . I have told her she better get out of there , but she has had so many strokes and plus she's lost her leg and the sight out of her right eye do to diabetes. So I quess she wants to live out her last few days where her home is. In my opinion they all need to leave that neighborhood and sew the crap out of those companies.
@@RhettyforHistory If you don't have one, get a copy of 'At Work In The Fields Of The Bomb' by Robert Del Tredici. It came out in 87 and will sure open your eyes to the bottom line in the AEC as it did mine. And this plant is by FAR the only one.
I'll have to get a copy. Thanks Lewie for the tip!
I still have this movie on VHS. Watched it the other night. I think it's creepy the way she died. Clearly was ran off the road.
Oh wow you have an antique! I had not seen it until a few weeks ago.
Too bad she didn't make back up copies of evidence and left them with someone she trusted.
Yes it is. I doubt she had any access to copies where she was.
I don't think there were a lot of xerox machines and scanners and pc's back in those days. We tend to forget about how technologically primitive it was back then. No cell phones, no satellite dishes.
I remember when I was a kid in the late 70's early 80's going to work with my dad and playing with the old carbon copies. They certainly had no copy machine.
Yeah the nearest library would have been a ways off and you're right about the copies.
We must remember copy machines were not all over the place like they are now. Today, she could have photoed them with her cell phone and sent them to various others. It was a totally different world then.
I'm also quite certain she realized how dangerous this was and would not have wanted to endanger someone else's life. Just them "scrubbing" her the way they did three times in such a short period to time was undoubtedly a warning to her rather than an active reading that was legitimate.
I enjoyed watching this. First of all you did such a good job man!! From everything I’ve gathered of your telling of the story… I’d say this young woman was definitely ran off the road. Thank you for spreading light and truth into the world man. I appreciate this so much. I pray that justice will be served if there was any foul play. Great video man thanks for sharing
I had never heard of this story at all before about a week and a half ago. Landum from Landumc RUclips channel told me about the story and I could believe I had never heard it. We were supposed to go film it together because he was in the area but he had something come up and had to go home. I tried to immerse myself in it as much as i could and find every place in Oklahoma that was involved. I'm finding out that there are quite a few others that didn't know about her either. I'm the same as you in that i hope someone or something comes forward and sheds new light. Thanks for watching and commenting.
RhettyforFun I’m glad you made this video brother you have started the process you have turn the light switch on
She was only a few minutes into driving and fell asleep at the wheel, I highly doubt that, even on drugs, My theory s she was ran off the road by a coworker who probably followed her as she was leaving town. It's just to suspicious not to believe.
I think she knew what she was doing and it was really one of the biggest nights she would ever have. Exposing everything. I would imagine the adrenaline and nerves would be going so much that it would be enough to keep you awake.
Not a "co-worker" ... it was the head of Security for Kerr-McGee ... .
Fell asleep has got to be wrong. She is too responsible for that, knowing she had 38 miles to drive.
My only thing is this: how do you AIM for that culvert, tho? If you were trying to do that. It's also DARK out there. You'd have to know exactly where it is, and even then...
Great job on the vid! Earned my sub! May she rest in peace. Thank you for your hard work covering this.
Thank you! I appreciate you watching, commenting and subbing.
I live in enid about 45 miles north west and travel past the old plant many many times and always think about her and all the others that worked there..look at the old plant and grounds on google maps...hundreds of soil and water inspection wells drilled all over the area...how much contamination made it out of that place ??????
Yes you are correct about all those metered areas just north of the plant. I'm curious what the levels are at now. The last thing that I could find was a 1989 news article saying that the area was now 400 times higher than what it should be. It just kept climbing. If there are any other published reports or articles I haven't seen them but I sure am curious about it. The indicators out in that field look new.
Havent researched it,but I can tell you there's probably not to many people want to talk about it
I bet you're right.
Why no federal investigation??? Why no EPA involvement?
There was a federal investigation and you can actually pull that report. But questions still remain.
I LOVE the movie SILKWOOD👍. I always always thought the company had her killed when they couldn't scare her off with all the contamination. RIP Karen you are a remarkable brave women👍💕🌹.
vickie kasafirek Hi. Yes she was extremely brave. A very sad loss for her children. I have no doubt she was killed.
She was a hero for sure. Speaking out against a large corp must have incredibly scary. But fear didn't stop her. I saw the movie when I was really young probably 8 or 9 and I was so moved by her story even being just a young kid I knew she was really important. She certainly died a hero. Hate what happened to her and what pain she went through but love what she stood for. She was one tough chic. RIP Karen you made a difference.
karen died, and streep made millions, hate hollywood
@@williamthompson2941 - would you rather her story not have been told? It was a story that needed to be told. I am very glad the movies was made; maybe it will have helped raise some very important awareness. I've no doubt she was murdered. There are doctors and researchers who have investigated the drug issues around Big Pharma that have died in the past two years, more than fifty! In one case, several died in Mexico; when the bodies were finally returned home, they were not the right bodies. It smells very much like the many "mysterious" deaths after Kennedy's assassination.
This stuff happens, all in the name of money, we need to be aware.
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I do not think that she had children.
You did a good job on this video, thanks.
Thank you and I appreciate you watching.
Very well researched & presented. This was a case of corporate murder. Big companies will always put profits before people.
Thank you Larry! When you look at the whole picture it sure seems that way and I think you're right.
@@RhettyforHistory No, thank you for producing intelligent original content. I remember seeing the film as a kid & not really understanding what it was all really about. Sure as hell understand it as an adult tho. Karen Silkwood ought to be a lot more well known than she is. It just goes to show how corporate power can almost erase a person. If it hadn't been for the film I probably would never have heard of her. Is there a memorial to her anywhere do you know?
There is a memorial in NY I believe. It's honors some whistleblowers. I have not been to see that. I'm shocked that we do not have one in Oklahoma. I really think there should be one near that culvert.
@@RhettyforHistory - seriously shocked there is not one there? Remember, the powers that be want that company there for their economy. Any memorial would have to be permitted . . . likely would not happen.
I remember the movie. Thank you for your dedication of this video, and giving this true account of this courageous woman! Let us never forget!
Thank you. I appreciate you watching and commenting. My goal was to keep her story going and her memory alive.
@@RhettyforHistory Keep up the great work!
Thank you! I sure plan to so stay tuned.
That's 1 of my favorite movies. We have it on DVD & watch it often
I watched Silkwood as a child and never forgot the story. I've always been convinced someone ran her off the road to stop her from whistleblowing.It's hard to find info on it these days,also no one paid for this injustice. Thanks for taking the time and effort to look into this.Karen never got justice far as I'm concerned.God bless
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I also watched the movie as a child and never forgot it. I loved this report as I felt the movie made her out to be a bit flaky, whereas I loved the detail of her science studies and that she was a very accomplished woman. RIP Katen
Karen Silkwood was murdered , plain and simple . She had evidence against the Company that would have Exposed what they were doing but the Executives didn't want that , obviously ?! I am glad that her story is still being told and I liked the Meryl Streep movie but what happened after ? Did they close the company down ? You didn't say anything about that in this video . Rest in Peace Karen Silkwood and Thank you for being the first whistle blower . You cared about what was happening to other people at the workplace .
You could go on about this case for hours and I make these videos pretty short. But the plant itself closed in 1975. Supposedly not because of her. The company itself sold to Anadarko Petroleum in 2006 for 16 billion.
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That doesn't seem fair that this company would be sold for 16 billion ?!
Walter Schafer It never is.....This is way big corporations "work" .
It was a big corporation and they had been in the petroleum business a long time. After they closed the plant they stuck with that. They had nationwide assets. Who knows but maybe even offshore and overseas.
@@RhettyforHistory Sounds like the devils took the money and ran. Typical.
Saw the film many years ago with Meryl Streep and Cher. Good film and a very sad story. Thank you for sharing this.
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
Good to see that people still remember Karen Silkwood things like this still go on today.
RIP She was trying to do the right thing.
You did a great job on this vide!. I especially liked that you showed where events took place - it was like a field trip, although a very sad one. I can't wait to see more from you!
I appreciate you watching and coming along on the adventure.
Very Interesting. Thank You for doing this for Karen.
I wanted to keep her story going. I hope it never gets forgotten. Thanks for watching.
IsThis same silkwood they made a movie about?
Yes it is. I touch on it a little at the end.
Yes!! It is. Silkwood is a Great movie. The acting by Meryl Streep, and Cher was fantastic. I highly recommend watching it.
No, there are quite a few Karen Silkwoods that worked at Plutonium plants in the 70's that were ran off the road and killed and they all lived in Oklahoma, but I can see why you'd be confused.
@@Lisaj4431 Exactly. I personally know 25 of them!
She drove a Honda in 1974, two motorcycles tied together.
Yes they were really tiny especially so for that year.
It was apparently "good enough" fir her to run auto cross in. Agile and great on gas. Not something I'd buy, but it works.
She was murdered. Loved your video. Id like to see more like this. Thank you
Thank you Gypsy! I appreciate you watching. I'm not sure how many stories I will ever run into like this but I certainly thought it was worth telling.
I would love to see more of his videos.
I have quite a few historical videos if you would like to check them out.
You did a great job on this. It's hard to believe this was never investigated any further. It certainly sounds very deliberate!
Thank you Kelli. There are a lot of different things on many levels that make you wonder. There are still so many unanswered questions.
She was concerned with saving lives❤. Rest in peace Karen Silkwood ❤
Thank you for watching Janet!
Thank you for an informative video. Your commentary was very clear, articulate and easy to follow. I also appreciate your sensitive, respectful presentation. Best Wishes.
Thank you Shelley! I appreciate you watching and commenting.
There’s a movie, “Silkwood” with Meryl Streep and Cher.
Did you watch this video to the end? Because he goes into that in great detail...
runlarryrun77 I posted before the end of the video. Thank you
Hilda Pompa !!!!!!GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!
Really???
Right. Meryl played Karen, even though Cher looked more like Karen.
This is a sensitive and low-key remembrance that is so beautifully done. The guy has a really pleasant delivery, which only adds to the intention. Elegiac and brilliant.
Thank you for the kind words and I appreciate you watching!
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Always.
Saw Silkwood in a theater and been interested in the everything about it since. I thought the start was mimicking the movie, then..... Her apartment and the café she left from, very, very cool. what an amazing find in the utube vortex. Thanks.
The movie is good but they show her in a sort of country type house and she was never in that. I wanted to show all the actual places since it was never filmed here. The American Legion building that was in this is the actual location where the Doctors and Scientists came to speak to the employees about the dangers of plutonium. If you search you can find audio of Karen speaking inside there. The building really hasn't changed. But there are a couple audio pieces where you can hear her speaking and she doesn't have the accent that Meryl Streep used. It's interesting to see the differences in the movie and real life. Thanks for watching and commenting.
wonderfully informative heart touching thank you .. for all your hard work putting this together... i loved the show even tho it had me crying.. may she rest in peace
Thank you Khym. I appreciate the comment as well as you taking the time to watch.
You just always have the most interesting videos. Your also an amazing story teller. You just bring every event back to life perfectly. You make the viewer feel like they were there when everything went down. Just wanted you to know what an awesome job you do. I have never seen Silkwood and didn't realize that this is what it was about. After watching your video I will soon be watching that movie. Just love your stuff. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos.
Thank you Flo! It means a lot to me that you take the time to watch my videos. Up until a couple weeks or so ago I knew nothing about this story. The sad thing is I had passed by these locations for decades and never knew. As soon as I found out about it I wanted to do something on it. I figured there were a lot of others like me that had never heard about it. It's a sad and tragic story that deserves to never be forgotten.
Thank you for making this video. Her story is important.
Yes I believe it is as well. Thanks for watching and commenting Nick.
Awesome video! Thanks for all of your research. These things need to be remembered for sure. Still such a horrifying story and turn of events. Connie & Mike...
Thank you Mike!
You did a great job with this,
I remember this, and the movie of course.
Its decent of you to take the time to do this,
She actually was and is in my mind a Hero,
I wish she would have made it to her destination,
As far as who is and was responsible for this, I am sure they will pay for their actions, if they haven't already ( one way or another ) Bravo on your part☮️☮️☮️☮️☀️☀️☀️☀️
Thank you Ral. It's such a sad and tragic story but I wanted to tell her story and keep her memory going. I didn't feel like anyone had ever showcased all of the buildings or structures that were involved so I definitely wanted to. Thanks again for watching and commenting.
Thanks again for the kinds words and subscribing.
Great video! I just learned about Karen today after Googling "silkwood shower." What a tragic story. Thanks for keeping it alive for those of us who hadn't learned about it yet. This is important for people to know. These people only get away with this crap because people keep turning a blind eye.
Thank you so much for watching!
I remember watching the movie Called Silkwood. I think kirk Russell was in it playing her boyfriend and Streep played karen silkwood. Someone wanted her Dead to shut her up.
While working at the university of Tulsa, this was still a hot topic in the early 1980's.
I bet so. The case finally settled in 1979 and then the movie in 1983. I could see why it would be.
This is so different for you.Very interesting sad scary but fascinating Very well done Thank you
It is different. It's a story that I knew nothing about until just a couple weeks ago. I definitely thought it need to be told. Thanks for watching Candy.
Nice complete documentary. Very sad what happened to her. Thanks for sharing as I've never heard of this
Thank you Harmin. I appreciate you watching!
Thank you for making & sharing your video.
I Remember the movie. I was a kid so it was just a movie, to me.
Now I am a adult and I have experienced, witnessed the horrible things companies/corporations/governments do to to people, all because of GREED.
I am interested in learning more about Karen Silkwood and the story of the Kerr-McGee Cimarron Facility.
You're welcome and thanks for watching. There is a lot of stuff you can check out on her. It's pretty interesting.
Thanks for taking the time to put this video together. Seeing the actual locations is quite eye opening. Rest in peace Karen..
You're welcome Dale and thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. I wanted to help keep her memory and story going so I feel like that's happening.
Thanks for showing all these places and telling people
You're welcome. I don't want her story forgotten. Thanks for watching and commenting.
People with large amounts of money live by a different set of laws. Then the rest of us. Life is cheap if you are wealthy.
I remember watching the movie "Silkwood" in the 80's with Meryl Streep, and Kurt Russell and Cher. It was actually pretty scary!
I never knew this sadly story before but is good to know who was Karen after all these years. You did a wonderful job by remembering Karen and her legacy. Great job!
Thank you. I appreciate you watching.
I feel she was set up. Period! It's all about the money$$$. God rest her soul.
Betty Johnson it always is!!!! Sad. Incredibly heartbreakingly sad.
Betty Johnson no doubt about it, she knew too much..
@@gwag8410 you are right!
Betty Johnson When I saw the movie I always felt Cher’s character was a bit suss.
@@barbarahope1934 I'm going to go look at the movie again.
Wish they would make a new movie about this i think a lot of people would watch it
I do feel that there were other things that could be told.
Renee,
It is a classic masterpiece.
A movie like that, telling HER story, and how it WAS back then, during that era,
hum, yeah NO !
I am surprised the police officer didn't say jack, about putting the papers, into her car ! The lady at the cafe, held the paper's, and watched as Karen got
Into her car, and less then
5 miles "" fall's asleep"" hum, yeah, NO WAY. ! ! !
I BELIEVE, the roommate
Sharri, had something to do with it, giving them tips,
and Karen knew it ! jsol
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Iagree
@@chella3776 yeah that could explain a lot. How did they always seem to know what Karen had, where she was going and so on. But, that's just a thought.
@@chella3776 & @Talinda Kelley, Drew made out pretty good, went from working in a plant to piloting?, I'd like to hear more about that, did he go to piloting school?, and, if so, where's he get the money?, I mean, let's not rule out, her other roommate(Drew) as well.
This was really interesting! I remember seeing the movie Silkwood when it came out.
Thank you
I saw the movie “Silkwood.” That is how I learned of her whistle blowing and her murder. She was clearly murdered. Awesome video.
Thank you Michelle!
I worked with Karen in 74 .She was A very focused woman at our weekly safety meetings I could feel the tension in the meetings as she would point out some of the safety issues.Working with a dangerous mineral has it' danger's .
Yes it does. Not something you would want to fool around with.
She sounds like a very courageous woman
I had never heard of her until i moved to the small town of Howe Tx and was looking up its history and found out that part of the movie "silkwood" was filmed here so I watched the movie. It was a sad deal. I think she was murdered.
Do you know what part was filmed there? I'm guessing maybe the house?
@@RhettyforHistory Yes the house was right outside of town but im not sure that its still there. I have looked where i thought it should've been but haven't found it yet. And also the cafe scenes were filmed on Haning street which is our Main St here in Howe in an old bank across from the City Hall. 111 E. Haning street to be exact. Here is the link to the Howe paper that tells the locations.
howeenterprise.com/35-years-ago-week-howe-became-movie-set/
The house was still there about 10 years ago, now I'm going to have to go take a ride later and see if it still stands. I have a picture of it with my brothers car parked in front of it somewhere in my collection. I was also told that parts were filmed in Tom Bean too, town east of Howe on 902
As always a very good job friend! Karen Silkwood's story has always intrigued me. I live fairly close to where she is buried. I believe she is buried in her ex husband's family's plot, in Kilgore Tx. It is very sad yet mysterious what happened to her. Especially for her children. Thank you for showing Drew Stephens grave site. I have tried looking it up online and couldn't find it. Thanks again for all your amazing videos. 😊
Thank you Tiger! I appreciate you watching and commenting. I wasn't really sure why she was buried in Kilgore. I thought maybe her parents had moved there during the time period. But I had no idea.
@@RhettyforHistory I'm not sure why she was buried there either. I do know that she was born in Longview Tx. and would sometimes go and visit her grandparents there. It does seem odd though that she wouldn't be buried next to her parents. Of course she died quite a few years before they did. Could it have something to do with her children? A mystery to say the least.
I really figured that her parents would have chosen to be buried next to her or at least near her.
@@RhettyforHistory Yes it would make sense for them to be buried near her instead of the other way around. Lol. I didn't think of that. I believe they were living near Houston for a time. They are buried in Port Neches Tx. in the same cemetery as Tex Ritter.
Brilliant video! Let's hope that justice can be served....
Thank you! I appreciate you watching.
This was cool to see. I remember watching the movie a couple of times and yes I think something went wrong and it wasn’t Karen’s fault!!
There are sure a lot of things that point that way. It's such a sad and tragic story. Thanks for watching.
Hey Rhett! I'm so glad you did this!! Sorry I wasn't able to be there! You did a great job on it! Talk to you soon!!!
You're fine. I hope everything is going ok. I wished you could have made it though. I really put in the research and was ready for it! It was a crash course deluxe! Thanks again for the tip. Also I wasn't sure if you filmed anything at the Skirvin or not. If you need me to go capture the grave with no audio I would be more than happy to do that for you.
I found this quote on the movie, Another Mother's Son: "The value of life is not measured in length but in deeds.". Karen Silkwood's life will be remembered.
Thank you for watching.
When I lived in Oklahoma my mom was good friends with a couple who knew Karen. The husband worked with her at Kerr McGhee. He said she was so sweet and that all the things she was saying about Kerr Mcghee were true. They cared more about making money and making production than thier employees. They all believed the higjer ups had her taken out for talking. It's sad that those kids had to grow up without thier mother. But thier mother did the right thing and is a hero that should never be forgotten.
There have been other people that worked there and have spoken about what Karen said and they have stated that many of the things she found were true.
Great report. I remember this happening. Evil, evil people killed her. May she rest in peace.
Thank you Georgiana.
That was a good movie, very sad story, thank you for this video..
You're welcome. I appreciate you watching.
Your Very Welcome..
I hope all of your views make the effort to get the movie about her,Silkwood. It is a shocking, touching, portrayal of this brave young woman. Kerr McGee-SHAME ON YOU!
She certainly was a thorn inn the side of that company and rightfully so. The idea that a company can just "doctor" up xrays of plutonium rods so they can save a few bucks is INSANE! I hope you are at peace, Karen. Thanks for the "rest of the story".