I was hating Afiffe but in the end she was one of the most perfect characters. She was from being against Hurrem to saving her life. What a story of her. Rest in peace Sabina Toziya.
Not only was her character arc entirely believable, it also highlighted how every bad opinion of Hürrem can't be true within the show if she managed to convince Afiffe of the justice of her side. Much as I hate the way Daye left the show, Afiffe was a brilliant replacement for her!
In real life, Süleyman kept in touch with real Afife Hatun (but she never lived and worked in his harem), Osman 2 made his wetnurse head of harem when he ascended the throne
@@rentbuyown6480 I don’t think the wet nurses were slaves actually. They had to have had probably just lost a child so they were producing milk. I think everyone were slaves to the Sultan in a sense, and sultanas.
There is a huge difference between being a slave and being a king's subject Trying to whitewash slavery. Try being a slave for once and then maybe I will say the same line to u "everyone is a slave in some way"
-You will be punished for that commotion you've caused with your fighting. By feet whipping. -What? You can't do this to me! I am Hurrem sultan's right hand! -And I am Prince Mustafa's favourite! Nobody can touch me! Gods, the smirk on Affie Hatun's face before having both Gulsah and Fatma punished was just amazing. Rule number one when you're dealing with this formidable granny: never tell her that she can't do something 😂😂
@@jaimeedowell1383 oh yeah. Too bad she couldn't get her hands on Mahidevran and Suleiman's sisters though. Apart from entertaining, it would have been much needed.
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ his sisters were so out of line they kept going on and ok about the order of the harrem but were happy to risk poisoning Suleman just to keep Mahicrybaby in his bed.
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μshe would have punished Hürrem for her defiance towards Mahidevran Hatice and the Valide if she met her at the beginning of the series
How did I missed Suleiman and Hatice kissing Afife hatun hand like they do to elders of dynasty. It's so wholesome! I mean she's not from dynasty but they've respect for her as much as they do for their own mother. That was cute❤
Hurrem got to respect Afife quite fast and understod in she whent agenst her it was for a reson hense one of resons I love Afife she does not beat around the bush or play favoritts
@@sairapoleon3215 Actualy she did not as she did go agenst Hurrem a cuple of times but Hurrem never argued often back as she knew Afife was protecting the dynasty
@@sairapoleon3215 Actualy no she did not if you payed attension Hatice was traditionaly abouve Hurrem in rank and what she sayed was following rules of the harem so Afife was not playing favoritts just following the rules of the harem(Hatice knew them better) as she was to until
i just hate one thing about hypocrite hatice, like she wants ibrahim to loyal to her alone but if her brother do the same then it is wrong. she needs to understand that her brother is not a fool, if he loves someone then it may be she is eligible for his love and deserves his loyality. but knooo, she just want everything to be done according her whims. when hurrem is her friend then its okay for her to be his lover but if hurrem is her enemy then she cant be alone lover.
thought she was all into herself, till hurem got her under control. hatice should be concerned about her own house. was it so bad for the sultan to be in love?
If I had to guess, it's to illustrate that actual physical fighting within the harem won't be tolerated, regardless of rank. It occurred to be when Sümbül remarked on being tried with their constant bickering. While rank was important within the harem, many of the established rules were there specifically to prevent disorder of this kind. So, while I'd agree Gülşah is more in the right here (words I never thought I'd say but Fatma's a menace) the real issue is that she brawled with Fatma outright.
She got physical cause she didn’t behave. Just like this woman got physical when fatma didn’t behave. I think it was cause she said she was Hurrems person.
That’s the difference they’re both royalty and can do as they please, the Sultan can take as many women as he wants simply because he’s well…the sultan. Just as the husband of a sultana has to be completely faithful to her. It was the advantage of Royal blood.
@@Blooming_Crystals i guess that makes cats superior 😂 also was wondering because Nurbanu brought in a stray puppy into Manisa palace and one of the rival concubines killed it..head kalfa suggested that she can get her a cat..
@@20PINKluvrNurbanu wasn't a Muslim by birth. She was a Catholic girl from Italy who was taken in a raid to the palace. She wanted the dog because unlike Muslims, Christians love dogs and she couldn't help herself. In real life, Selim allowed Nurbanu to have dogs even though it wasn't allowed because he loved her that much.
Not a throne actually. In the Ottoman Empire they were called divans! Couches that acted as beds and places to sit when having meals if they didn’t sit on pillows. I get what you mean though lol.
@@ΔημΣΚ I know what you mean, I was just saying the couch-like things on the edge of the Valide’s chambers are called divans, they’re used for a number of things and also act as a throne at times
I was hating Afiffe but in the end she was one of the most perfect characters. She was from being against Hurrem to saving her life. What a story of her. Rest in peace Sabina Toziya.
Not only was her character arc entirely believable, it also highlighted how every bad opinion of Hürrem can't be true within the show if she managed to convince Afiffe of the justice of her side. Much as I hate the way Daye left the show, Afiffe was a brilliant replacement for her!
She was just under the control of the dynastic princesses
Under Islam if you nurse a child you become another mother to that person. A new mother of Sultan.
In real life, Süleyman kept in touch with real Afife Hatun (but she never lived and worked in his harem), Osman 2 made his wetnurse head of harem when he ascended the throne
@@draganagavric4944 she did for the harem as a wet nurse.
And even then u don't free her from slavery. Under Islam slavery is allowed what could be more disgusting
@@rentbuyown6480 I don’t think the wet nurses were slaves actually. They had to have had probably just lost a child so they were producing milk. I think everyone were slaves to the Sultan in a sense, and sultanas.
There is a huge difference between being a slave and being a king's subject
Trying to whitewash slavery.
Try being a slave for once and then maybe I will say the same line to u "everyone is a slave in some way"
I loved the way sultan treated afife hatun like his mother
Me too. It was so sweet!
She was his milk mother.
Kinda like his surrogate mother
@@kristinesharp6286 and that's why he call yahya effendi as his brother , he was afifa's son
-You will be punished for that commotion you've caused with your fighting. By feet whipping.
-What? You can't do this to me! I am Hurrem sultan's right hand!
-And I am Prince Mustafa's favourite! Nobody can touch me!
Gods, the smirk on Affie Hatun's face before having both Gulsah and Fatma punished was just amazing. Rule number one when you're dealing with this formidable granny: never tell her that she can't do something 😂😂
@@leoswiftie Gulsah? Gods, help me.
She was everyone trash dumpster. Even Hatice was more composed and reliable than Gulsah.
Alfie is about that life 😅
@@jaimeedowell1383 oh yeah. Too bad she couldn't get her hands on Mahidevran and Suleiman's sisters though. Apart from entertaining, it would have been much needed.
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ his sisters were so out of line they kept going on and ok about the order of the harrem but were happy to risk poisoning Suleman just to keep Mahicrybaby in his bed.
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μshe would have punished Hürrem for her defiance towards Mahidevran Hatice and the Valide if she met her at the beginning of the series
How did I missed Suleiman and Hatice kissing Afife hatun hand like they do to elders of dynasty. It's so wholesome! I mean she's not from dynasty but they've respect for her as much as they do for their own mother. That was cute❤
Hurrem got to respect Afife quite fast and understod in she whent agenst her it was for a reson hense one of resons I love Afife she does not beat around the bush or play favoritts
This film is so adorable
Hmmmm she did play favorite
@@sairapoleon3215 Actualy she did not as she did go agenst Hurrem a cuple of times but Hurrem never argued often back as she knew Afife was protecting the dynasty
@@Wenchework then go watch the series again afife hatun listened to hatice sultan and played favorite
@@sairapoleon3215 Actualy no she did not if you payed attension Hatice was traditionaly abouve Hurrem in rank and what she sayed was following rules of the harem so Afife was not playing favoritts just following the rules of the harem(Hatice knew them better) as she was to until
The sultan's favorite is my favorite. Ma'am, that's his official wife!😂
i just hate one thing about hypocrite hatice, like she wants ibrahim to loyal to her alone but if her brother do the same then it is wrong. she needs to understand that her brother is not a fool, if he loves someone then it may be she is eligible for his love and deserves his loyality. but knooo, she just want everything to be done according her whims. when hurrem is her friend then its okay for her to be his lover but if hurrem is her enemy then she cant be alone lover.
thought she was all into herself, till hurem got her under control. hatice should be concerned about her own house. was it so bad for the sultan to be in love?
The question was.. could he be in love with more than one person? Polyamory was encouraged back then but was it actually feasible?
2:28 Continuity error. Her tattoo is above the neckline when seen later.
The woman was not my favorite but Fatma was not doing what she was told and she was the overseer. Don’t know why she was barbaric with the other one.
If I had to guess, it's to illustrate that actual physical fighting within the harem won't be tolerated, regardless of rank. It occurred to be when Sümbül remarked on being tried with their constant bickering. While rank was important within the harem, many of the established rules were there specifically to prevent disorder of this kind. So, while I'd agree Gülşah is more in the right here (words I never thought I'd say but Fatma's a menace) the real issue is that she brawled with Fatma outright.
She got physical cause she didn’t behave. Just like this woman got physical when fatma didn’t behave. I think it was cause she said she was Hurrems person.
@@Redluna32 but she was being physical with the both of them.
Hatice is truly a hypocrite, her brother shouldn't stay loyal to one woman but her beloved husband should..smh
That’s the difference they’re both royalty and can do as they please, the Sultan can take as many women as he wants simply because he’s well…the sultan. Just as the husband of a sultana has to be completely faithful to her. It was the advantage of Royal blood.
@@Lucy_Heartfilia822 yes it makes sense lucy
So cats are allowed to be kept in the palace as pets but not dogs? Saw a brief scene of a concubine with a pet cat 1:39
Dogs are forbidden in Islam
@@Blooming_Crystals i guess that makes cats superior 😂 also was wondering because Nurbanu brought in a stray puppy into Manisa palace and one of the rival concubines killed it..head kalfa suggested that she can get her a cat..
@@20PINKluvrNurbanu wasn't a Muslim by birth. She was a Catholic girl from Italy who was taken in a raid to the palace. She wanted the dog because unlike Muslims, Christians love dogs and she couldn't help herself. In real life, Selim allowed Nurbanu to have dogs even though it wasn't allowed because he loved her that much.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirli knew that but her rival Muslim concubine killed it and the Kalfa suggested that they get her a cat
Afifes face when she notices hurrem sultana in valide sultan apartnment! Lol!
Okay but Hurrem in the thumbnail looks gorgeous.
I love how both Suleiman and hatice kissed afife's hands
Afife later will realize shes on the wrong side and will follow hurrem sultana till the end and apologize.
😂😂 No she will go on the wrong side later now she is on right side
@@gordanaterzic4121 nop she will go later to the right side which is hurrem sultan
@@ΔημΣΚ nope that's a bad side the right side is Hatice and Mahidevran team
@@gordanaterzic4121 the right side is Hurrem sultan not mahidevil and hatice
LOVE this series.
Ah its so nice to finally see hurrem sultan sit on the valide sultan throne!
Not a throne actually. In the Ottoman Empire they were called divans! Couches that acted as beds and places to sit when having meals if they didn’t sit on pillows. I get what you mean though lol.
@@Lucy_Heartfilia822 but it's the valide sultan apartment so it's her throne there
@@ΔημΣΚ I know what you mean, I was just saying the couch-like things on the edge of the Valide’s chambers are called divans, they’re used for a number of things and also act as a throne at times
@@Lucy_Heartfilia822 yes
Someone needs to remind fatma that she is the saltuns sons concubine not his daughter
Sulaymon va xaticaning afifa xatunga olgan iwki ne guzel.
Now its Kiraz Agha vs Sumbul 😂
“yapping” well done, admin
I can’t stand seeing Hurrum so upset it breaks my heart seriously
Fatma wasn't polite as Firuze
16 sopa
😂😂HURRWITCH FINALLY GOT WHAT SHE DESERVED
Mahidevil did and more wait her
@@ΔημΣΚ no Hurrdevil got a karma
@@gordanaterzic4121 nop mahidevil got it
@@ΔημΣΚ no Hurrdevil got it
@@gordanaterzic4121 nop mahidevil did