I had a renegade 1000r 2016 my shiftout was 7800 and it was a monster atv when i drop the shiftout to 7500 or 7600 there was a huge performance difference the bike had duel exhaust and tuner i was running on stock holeshot tires
I watched both videos on clutching. I have stumbled across a few other camping and quadding vids. Nice work! I just bought a 1000r max and even though the power is good I thought it would have more so I’m looking into the clutching as it has a CV tech clutch. My stall is 2100rpm going to see what my shift out and adjust from there. Thanks for doing all the research and posting. Subscribe
thanks so much rob.getting info on these are like pulling teeth and a million different opinions and its nice to see it broken down to easy to understand instructions and telling us what size the sockets and tourque ratings are were a big help for me. im in the middle of solving a underrev condition on my 570 max with the cv tech clutch.im at 7100 and need it in the 7400-7500 rpm range at wide open if what i read was correct.currently a 1018 spring and 14 gram weights in there, so im going to order 12s and se where im at.got the plastics and clutch cover off waiting to get the 19 and 30 mm sockets, and order my 12s in the am.didnt like being so hard on the plastics to snap em out , but they came lol.ill let ya know how it goes.liked part 1 and 2 and subbed to your channel. thanks for these videos man.i feel less intimidated now.cheers.
How did you make out with adding the 12g weights? Did they work out for you or did you have to go with more weight? What size tires are you running, I’m in same boat now.
Great information i just installed my cvtech in my 1000r outlander xxc, it revs up to 7900 rpm on tap, i need to add pennys. Is that going to lower my engagement rpm?
Ever so slightly it will. I added 5g to each weight and my engagement wasn't affected enough to worry. There is much less centrifugal force at low rpm.
Did you ever try changing the secondary spring, or putting on a different secondary? I am told the stock secondary can't keep up with the CVtech primary.
Hi, very usefull video! Could not get the information on the yoube, what do you think of clutch kits wich are sold by some vendors (EPI, Dalton, etc) Are they any good? No significant info on youtube.... Planning to try one, changing springs and weights. Worth it? Changing the stock clutch to CV Tech or STM is very expensive as for now)
I wouldn't waste money on a kit. Just get a cvtech. Belts will still slip with a kit. Then you will be out the money you spent on a kit and shelling out more for a cvtech.
I am currently running 16 gram weights and a 0951-1016 spring. 2021 can am renegade 1000 xmr with factory “30”” cryptids. Right now my stall is 2100/2200 and my shift out appears to be 7800. Boy it rips hard. I can’t wheelie anymore but it rockets forward like a drag machine! I’d be curious what going from 16 gram to 20 gram would do…. I’d imagine it would have the same shift out as you? 7400… I may need to do that!
I know this video is a year old - have you kept the 20gram weights? Also have you change the secondary spring or reclocked it? If so what spring did you go with and what did you clock it to?
So the way I think it works, I could be wrong, is the big bad ass QSC that everyone wants gets its performance (besides a bit smaller bearing) from having a higher stall so harder launches compared to the cvtech? If thats the case I think I would rather have the cvtech due to less stress on components due to lower stall....plus all the savings on the wallet.
Only thing I know about qsc is the price was out of my range. You can tune the cvtech to launch at high rpms if that's what you want. I almost bought a qsc secondary unit until I figured out how to tune the cvtech. Thanks for watching!
When you do the shiftout test, how exactly did you do it? And what are you looking for? I know you are looking at rpms, but also at the belt, correct? Haven't quite understood that part.
Just pin it, and look to see what your rpms do. They should peak for a second and drop a bit and hold. Where it holds a steady rpm that's your shiftout.
So no real worries about watching the belt when looking for the shiftout? From there, I'm adjusting weight and primary spring to get the shiftout where the power is at right? It's the one thing i haven't adjust for as i rarely do speeds over 30-40mph.
From what I've read ts 70 to 80. Second last time itook it apart to clean it for some reason it came lose after a couple rides. But I don't remember what I torc it at that time. There is a lot of different numbers floating around online. It gets confusing for sure. Thanks for watching
@ I hear ya for a product that’s as popular as this clutch you’d think the information would be more concrete and better detailed. I also just came across a page that references it being 148 ft lbs right on the CVTECH website.. that’s quite a difference from 70 lol
@@RobMillerATV do u think its worth it to add a cvtech on stock tires? Or a clutch kit will do the necessary? I do mainly trail riding and occasional deep snow..
@@RobMillerATV Thanks. Never took notice to what mine is right now. Interested in getting a CV Tech once they are in stock again. I have a Dalton Kit now with 27s and I’m looking for a bit more performance.
@@RobMillerATV Hi Rob, can I ask about your shift out RPM. Is the initial take off jump to 7400rpm and then climb down the rpm's as the bike shifts? mine is launching and reaching 7400 and then drops to 6900-7000 as it rides out. All this is in high gear. I'd love you're feedback and sorry to be a pain. I'm riding a 650 XMR so gearing may be different and power make the difference. I appreciate any help.
@mattgardner7869 my rpms on my 1000 hold the same through to top speed. U can try the penny trick. Might help. Try to find out where the 650 peaks for hp in the rpms. You want your shift out at that or a tad over.
@@RobMillerATV im very outdoor type of guy.. love all seasons, goin to my cottage may 24.. i spend alot of time up there.. not too much places to ride in kitchener
Please watch the first video for more information. Thanks for watching!
Thanks Rob....great info cheers
I know it's an old video but wanted to say thank you for taking the time to make these videos!!
Your welcome bud. Thanks for watching!
I had a renegade 1000r 2016 my shiftout was 7800 and it was a monster atv when i drop the shiftout to 7500 or 7600 there was a huge performance difference the bike had duel exhaust and tuner i was running on stock holeshot tires
I watched both videos on clutching. I have stumbled across a few other camping and quadding vids. Nice work!
I just bought a 1000r max and even though the power is good I thought it would have more so I’m looking into the clutching as it has a CV tech clutch. My stall is 2100rpm going to see what my shift out and adjust from there. Thanks for doing all the research and posting.
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Hey thanks a lot!! I'm glad to get positive feedback on these videos. Cheers 🍻
just ordered and have delt with them ty for telling us about them.... great service
thanks so much rob.getting info on these are like pulling teeth and a million different opinions and its nice to see it broken down to easy to understand instructions and telling us what size the sockets and tourque ratings are were a big help for me. im in the middle of solving a underrev condition on my 570 max with the cv tech clutch.im at 7100 and need it in the 7400-7500 rpm range at wide open if what i read was correct.currently a 1018 spring and 14 gram weights in there, so im going to order 12s and se where im at.got the plastics and clutch cover off waiting to get the 19 and 30 mm sockets, and order my 12s in the am.didnt like being so hard on the plastics to snap em out , but they came lol.ill let ya know how it goes.liked part 1 and 2 and subbed to your channel. thanks for these videos man.i feel less intimidated now.cheers.
That's awesome man! Good luck and thanks for watching.
How did you make out with adding the 12g weights? Did they work out for you or did you have to go with more weight? What size tires are you running, I’m in same boat now.
Ya it worked out. 30 inch tires. There is a second video on the results if you look on my channel . Good luck with yours and thanks for watching Brad.
Thanks Rob for a great content and simple, most importantly.
Did my part, subscribed 🛠️
Thanks bud, it is much appreciated for sure.
Great information I can use and love the humor. Appreciate the video. Another subscriber here.
Thanks for watching and subscribing
Glad you’re happy with it. Definitely going to be my next mod for my max xt
Good video 🙌🏻, can’t wait to see what happens after a few rides , I think you got it set up pretty nice 👍🏻
Great information i just installed my cvtech in my 1000r outlander xxc, it revs up to 7900 rpm on tap, i need to add pennys. Is that going to lower my engagement rpm?
Ever so slightly it will. I added 5g to each weight and my engagement wasn't affected enough to worry. There is much less centrifugal force at low rpm.
Did you ever try changing the secondary spring, or putting on a different secondary? I am told the stock secondary can't keep up with the CVtech primary.
No it shifts good. Cvtech will work good with stock secondary. Qsc or stm I hear don't get along well with the stock secondary.
amazing brother ,, i live in kitchener
Hi, very usefull video! Could not get the information on the yoube, what do you think of clutch kits wich are sold by some vendors (EPI, Dalton, etc) Are they any good? No significant info on youtube.... Planning to try one, changing springs and weights. Worth it? Changing the stock clutch to CV Tech or STM is very expensive as for now)
I wouldn't waste money on a kit. Just get a cvtech. Belts will still slip with a kit. Then you will be out the money you spent on a kit and shelling out more for a cvtech.
@@RobMillerATV do you recommend to install both cvtech or just primary? Which is better stm or cvtech ?
I just did the primary. I'd say by the price stm is better. Just depends on how deep your pocket is.
@@RobMillerATV The problem is that you have to check CVtech right after every mud ridding, it does not really made for mudding
@@ОлегЛизун and what are you checking for?
thanks great vid
So are you still happy with the 1016 spring and 20gram weights?
Ya it works great. I haven't changed anything since the video.
I am currently running 16 gram weights and a 0951-1016 spring. 2021 can am renegade 1000 xmr with factory “30”” cryptids. Right now my stall is 2100/2200 and my shift out appears to be 7800. Boy it rips hard. I can’t wheelie anymore but it rockets forward like a drag machine! I’d be curious what going from 16 gram to 20 gram would do…. I’d imagine it would have the same shift out as you? 7400… I may need to do that!
Yes add weight. It will rip even better.
@@RobMillerATV sounds like I’ll be ordering weights 🤣 thanks!!
if you don't mind me asking, what spring are you running on your primary clutch?
I don't remember. But I do mention that in the first video I did.
0951 1016
I know this video is a year old - have you kept the 20gram weights? Also have you change the secondary spring or reclocked it? If so what spring did you go with and what did you clock it to?
I haven't changed anything. It's working great.
So the way I think it works, I could be wrong, is the big bad ass QSC that everyone wants gets its performance (besides a bit smaller bearing) from having a higher stall so harder launches compared to the cvtech? If thats the case I think I would rather have the cvtech due to less stress on components due to lower stall....plus all the savings on the wallet.
Only thing I know about qsc is the price was out of my range. You can tune the cvtech to launch at high rpms if that's what you want. I almost bought a qsc secondary unit until I figured out how to tune the cvtech. Thanks for watching!
@@RobMillerATV The boys at LetDirtFly run CVTech as well and love the gains. At over $1000 savings, I think I would run one too.
When you do the shiftout test, how exactly did you do it? And what are you looking for? I know you are looking at rpms, but also at the belt, correct? Haven't quite understood that part.
Just pin it, and look to see what your rpms do. They should peak for a second and drop a bit and hold. Where it holds a steady rpm that's your shiftout.
So no real worries about watching the belt when looking for the shiftout? From there, I'm adjusting weight and primary spring to get the shiftout where the power is at right? It's the one thing i haven't adjust for as i rarely do speeds over 30-40mph.
@@eighty6ramam ya mine never bothered me on the trails. But I was frustrated with its performance on the road. I never touched my spring. Just weights
@@eighty6ramam did you watch my fist video of the tune?
I think so. Watched 2 of them when you were adjusting it.
Can you explain shift out.
If you watch the first video I explain it there.
Is the m22 nut really 80 ft lbs? I thought the cvtech says 35 ft lbs.. while the main bolt that holds it is 90 ft lbs..
From what I've read ts 70 to 80. Second last time itook it apart to clean it for some reason it came lose after a couple rides. But I don't remember what I torc it at that time. There is a lot of different numbers floating around online. It gets confusing for sure. Thanks for watching
@ I hear ya for a product that’s as popular as this clutch you’d think the information would be more concrete and better detailed. I also just came across a page that references it being 148 ft lbs right on the CVTECH website.. that’s quite a difference from 70 lol
love the video man
Hey thanks a lot man!! And thanks for watching.
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Where did you buy it from all “set up”?
It was far from set up. I won't throw the company under the bus tho.
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Mine is slipping when I hit the throttle at 30 or 40 mph I thought this clutch was supposed to grab better , my stock one didn’t slip
You got something wrong then. Are u sure it's slipping? Or is it so out of tune you hit rev limiter?
How do I know my shift out?
Watch the first video
What improvements did the cvtech make?
No more belt slip. Harder launch and better shifting and better engine breaking. Runs way way cooler as well.
@@RobMillerATV what tire size are u running?
@Mishaal Salha they are 30 inch by 10. Outbacks measure true to size.
@@RobMillerATV do u think its worth it to add a cvtech on stock tires? Or a clutch kit will do the necessary? I do mainly trail riding and occasional deep snow..
@Mishaal Salha stock tires are fine with stock clutch.
What spring did you end up finalizing on
I only changed the weights
@@RobMillerATV did you look at the spring number your running?
The spring number was mentioned in my first video. I don't remember what it was.
What RPM are you looking at reaching?
I was searching for 7400. And I got it.
@@RobMillerATV Thanks. Never took notice to what mine is right now. Interested in getting a CV Tech once they are in stock again. I have a Dalton Kit now with 27s and I’m looking for a bit more performance.
@@RobMillerATV Hi Rob, can I ask about your shift out RPM. Is the initial take off jump to 7400rpm and then climb down the rpm's as the bike shifts? mine is launching and reaching 7400 and then drops to 6900-7000 as it rides out. All this is in high gear. I'd love you're feedback and sorry to be a pain. I'm riding a 650 XMR so gearing may be different and power make the difference. I appreciate any help.
@mattgardner7869 my rpms on my 1000 hold the same through to top speed. U can try the penny trick. Might help. Try to find out where the 650 peaks for hp in the rpms. You want your shift out at that or a tad over.
are you running a completely stock secondary clutch or have you installed a new spring in there
Its stock
@@RobMillerATV thanks
what was the top speed brother
I never wound it out that day. But it's a 125km ph machine.
@@RobMillerATV ty you have given me alot of info.. and i did subscribe .. maybe we could ride one day
Your welcome. Thanks for watching. I belong to the Huron shore atv club. I'm on those trails at least once a month.
@@RobMillerATV im very outdoor type of guy.. love all seasons, goin to my cottage may 24.. i spend alot of time up there.. not too much places to ride in kitchener