State Of the Game: Navratilova & Evert go head-to-head
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Them picking Osaka and Kasatkina as rising stars making a breakthrough was spot on.
Kasatkina?
Both are not relevant for the past 2 years
Chris Evert is living in 2020 while us mortals still live in 2018. Called Halep AND Osaka.
she was right about Osaka
You might not like her but Martina is so honest. No knee-jerk contrarianism or posturing - just real talk.
I do like her
@@reasonrestored9116 I love her.
The two picks of "rising star" (Osaka and Kasatkina) are now disputing the final at Indian Wells. I guess these two legends knew what they were talking about...
Evert!! She predicted Halep maiden slam and Osaka breakthrough !!
she also predicted that venus would retire. Venus, meanwhile, has reaffirmed her decision to go for the 2020 Olympics....
Legends. Great talk. They know what they're talking about. Still remember their fight in Paris back in 1985.
Chris Evert: "In my 18 year career, I never went off the court once for a bathroom break."
What a legend she is !
Francesco Maliano she was the greatest
Dan------either that or maybe she didn't drink any fluids right before the matches....i mean how long where some of the matches: 1 hr.........that isn't that long
Serena is better than Chris
Your full of shit and can't hold it so it comes out of your pie hole.
Amazing! She must have hid that catheter very well!! 🤣
When I watch that it makes me sad about current tennis. These two legends have more charisma, grit and personnality than the whole of the current top 10 put together... Definitely agree with them on the "injury" thing, it has really been plaguing both the men's and women's tours this year.
This was a clinic… these two icons are a privilege to watch .
Great interview of these 2 great players. Chriss is very funny! I used to watch her practicing at Holiday Park with her father. I started playing tennis there in 1975 and played until 7 years ago. I lloved her style of playing and I tried to imitate her many years ago. I just heard Chriss has Ovarian Cancer and my heart goes out to her. I wish her all the best! She's a beautiful lady and I'm sure she will triumph in that battle too.
Evert correct on Halep's first win. Evert, as she did as a player, has great insight.
Please make more of this, this is extremely valuable content.
Make this an annual thing!!
They’re both so charming!
Love it !!!!
I love these women more than words can say! :)
agree with you
because they where ours first loves i think
Martina has the patience of a saint.
I know right?
Watch some of their matches and it was the opposite. Martina could get quite emotional whereas Evert hardly ever said a word during match. Also, this is all in fun.
Yes.Chrissie was cool and never lost her temper or showed dissent. Recall a line call which went against her, I think Wimbledon '87 against Martina on a very crucial point. She just quizzed whether the call was correct and moved on. No 'challenges' those days and she just accepted it. It was a wrong call and replays showed it should have been her point. It was toe to toe at that stage and she may well have won it as she was playing so well.
Love Christie. “Not once did I leave for a bathroom break” #bladderfordays
Dave R., Chris Evert was never diagnosed with an auto-immune illness the way amazing Venus has been. What Venus has accomplished despite that is nothing short of fantastic.
Venus doesnt do bathroom breaks repeatedly it is Serena.
@@Maitland5 Nah? Wtf are you even talking about?
They were 100% right. Osaka and Kasatkina did have a serious breakthrough this year.
Thank you for the good video!
Nice dress indeed! Professional and respectful comments from both icons here. Realistic too, considering Williams’ comeback and possible retirement. Everything’s possible in sports after all. Pleasantly surprised by flippancy on Evert’s part, whoever would have expected that from her! Tries breaking the obvious tension there, maybe. Who can tell? Let’s stick to the matter at hand. These are their ideas and opinions, considering their enormous talent and experience I’d say listen and learn! Hopefully we will enjoy their entries for a long time!
Chris Evert was right..!!!!! Simona just won her maiden Grand Slam
right i bet donaldson once on her tip
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saw Every years ago predict Agassi would find a way to win against Goran I. She noticed subtle changes in Agassi's return when McEnroe and Enberg were giving the match to Goran. Agassi won with his last return.
She just predicted Osaka too!!! Wow
Yes, the Osaka prediction was awesome!!
Great call for Chris to say Osaka is a rising star.
Evert correct on both Halep and Osaka, impressive!
Absolutely no mention of Kerber, she's had a tough 2017 but she's a double GS champ !!
I like watching stuff like this, to learn more about tennis. I'm a new fan, and am enjoying it SO much. Would love to learn how to play one day :D
I think Maria Sharapova is more likely to retire this year than Venus.
more of these please
Amazing that 2 us open finalists, keys and stephens were not mentioned at all😂😂
That's surprising. When they were asked about who has the best forehand i actually thought they were going to say Keys. Or maybe Kvitova ;) but Venus also has a great forehand so that's ok. Perhaps Sloane deserved to be mentioned among the most improved players.
justjuice Stephens was lucky at the US Open last year. I'd be shocked if she ever won another title in her career. She has struggled to win two consecutive matches since. But at least she got her name on a major.
Yed Madison Keys has effortless power. Surprised too.
@@MrTeogaga Do you play Tennis?
I ask because no one in Tennis is going to say Madison Keys has the best forehand.
Yes, she hits hard and plenty of winners; yet also many unforced errors as her forehand is entirely too long in the back swing.
Was surprised at Venus as the best forehand, but it has definitely improved. She uses more topspin and has more control nowadays.
Wozniacki definitely was the most improved and both were correct hence the Australian Open 2018 title :)
2 legends
Chris nailed it with the Osaka prediction. That´s amazing
and witth Halep
RIP Jana Novotna
Amen!
Tom Barry What type of cancer did she die from? It was never disclosed.
Breast Cancer ! She was lovely
Amen. She will always be a Wimbledon legend and beloved for showing her heart when she lost (before she won)!
Wow Chrissie was right on Simona and Naomi Osaka! Very accurate analyst, smart cookie!
Venus backhand was deadly all year. Her backhand alone beat Mug in the round robin
Thank you!! Venuses Backhand always destroys the Comp but they couldn't give her too many points cuz Chris-topher be hating
Thank you Navratilova for discovering Maria Sharapova.
Good picks. Both Osaka and Kasatkina are top-20 seeds at this year's US Open.
The bathroom break at the beginning is actually more understandable due to nervous bladder and the fact you're not sweating yet. Once play has started there's usually no reason for a bathroom break except for changing your clothes.
i think coco made a lot of improvements this year, more consistent than years past. i would also put her up there with best forehand and backhand. she can really wind up on that backhand.
An upcoming rivalry. Why not Coco and Madi
Always love the rapport and interaction between CE and MN regardless of what they predict.
If these two are talking tennis then it would be wise to listen.
Chrissy got it correct! Halep winning her first grand slam in 2018 and Osaka rising above her below 30 ranking (she won the 2018 US open)
These two know what their talking about. In addition to being legends, they've been watching all these players very carefully, old and new. However, tennis is just so mental that anything could happen. For 2018, Serena could come back and defend her AO title or maybe even win all 4 slams and get that calendar slam. However, for all we know, she may not win any slam. She may just be too distracted with trying to come back to play AND raising her child. The main thing I agree with is the possibility (emphasis on possibility) that we could have different winners of each slam. We could have serena for one, halep for one, pliskova and muguruza for another or possibly venus, then there's svitolina or ostapenko or even an oddball who's not even in the top 30, not to mention other strong American women like Keys or Stephens.
To summarize: 2018 will be, as Chris said, a "banner year for women's tennis".
The Great Chris Evert was right with OSAKA. She beat Serena twice.And won the US OPEN over Serena . LOVED IT. And Navratilova is right to in picking Daria. These two ladies could be the best two soon. Chris and Martina are exquisite ladies.
I hope Vika comes back super strong. And I hope Sloane Halep and Kvitova get really competitive next year.
Legends
I LOVE Kasatkina, but she does NOT close out matches well. There have been so many frustrating losses where Dasha was in control, but then got passive. A lot to improve.
Agreed. Dasha has a fantastic game and a superb ATP style forehand but she loses too many matches where she was in control.
Can't wait to watch this video at the end of 2018 to see how much they were right here ;)
2018: Eugenie Bouchard and Angie Kerber back at the top of the game, Serena wins Wimbledon, Caro Wozniacki wins 1st slam
Jack Bistritz Bouchard is gone
Jack Bistritz you were right about kerber and caro
It's either going two ways next year, their predictions or Serena, Maria, and Victoria will dominate.
Well, that would be like the good old 2012/13 years! I wouldn't mind seeing those 3 at the top of the table!
I love Serena and been a fan of her fans all this years. But i feel like enough is enough. i hope sharapova and azarenka will rule the court
?! fix, how can you say that when records remain to be broken? I fervently hope Serena wins Everything!
Garbine "Mugsy" Muguruza
Caroline "Wozzy Bear" Wozniacki
Karolina "Pliskobot" Pliskova
Gotta love the nicknames
4:02 is amazing
That's crazy. They picked the two that wad in the bnp final. They were right about them
i'm looking forward seeing Venus to win the last Grand Slam tittle in her career because she deserves it.
MI HO Venus can win multiple
I would love to see Venus win all 4 and shut Chrissie up.
me too! She had so many chances this year, but she couldnt capiltilize on it smh
It’s so amazing to know how right Chris has said!!!
1) Pliskova wasn’t on with her serve and not really had an amazing year.
2) Simona won her maiden Grand Slam!
3) Most breakthrough: Naomi Osaka!!! (It’s soooo right!!!)
4) Venus hasn’t a great year as last year.
(Only Bad stuff: Muguruza has a bad year :( )
Venus IS NOT retiring. She will return November 2020! Remember, she wants to play in 2020 Olympics!
oops
qu'est ce que j"ai pu en passer des heures devant la tv à les regarder toutes les deux ! à l'époque quand elles étaient toutes les deux au sommet de leur carrière ...il est vrai que nous avions une fois de plus le tableau "Borg Mac Enroe" Evert était la borg avec ses superbes passings du fond du court et Navra osait attaquée à n'importe quel moment et physiquement avait vraiment le pied léger comme Mac , physiquement Navra était au dessus de toutes !
C'est vrai-absolument -ce que vous avez dit ici.
Evert prediction came true, Halep won French Open.
Chris evert was right..Naomi Osaka did a captivating job this year winning the US Open and other incredible performances.
well well well Did Chrissie get it right or what???
Martina looking at Chris like she is crazy at the end there, she did the eyebrow raise and smirk to the camera/audience like "there you go folks, the queen has spoken"...
TENNIS IS JUST AMAZING.
Chrissie hates the mind games of the bathroom breakers , injury time outers , and the bum serve tossers! Lol good for her !
I always wondered if it was just me about the rising trend of these timeouts for bathroom and " injuries ". Seems to occur moreso when those who perceive themselves as the victor before the match starts to find themselves behind. Are the breaks justified because the science of the evolving game of tennis says that the demands on the athletes' bodies have increased exponentially or is it that negotiated sponsors' contracts are in the hanging....and ' we ' don't want to lose? Awwww...... There are rules yes but what is the criteria for making them? Too many times and ad nauseam do we see referees taking THEIR time to decide how to apply the rules of ITF to a timeout situation.
Venus retiring has to be a joke to me💯V has consistently played top tennis for years and I don't see that stopping soon. I'm here to say she will win a major in 2018! Let's go Venus😘❤️🏆
Good luck with that! Venus has not won a Slam in singles in nearly 10 years! If Wimbledon 2018 comes and goes without her winning, she will have gone winless in the last 40 Grand Slam tournaments! No offense to her (hope she does win); I'm just being realistic.
F Joseph Gonzales she getting close , FYI she was not playing gud the better part of that 10 years but she is now and will shut down your mouth
Venus is 38 years old. Saying 2018 will be her last is more likely than not.
It's a group discussion. Why do you have to be so vile?
Love both of these legends!! chrissie has maintained her figure greatly and Martina looks great too! Tennis was much more interesting during their reign and today's players pale in comparison!!
Serena and Venus don't look pale at all; look I respect your feeling: for 20 years black women have dominated the WTA. Serena and Venus and Richard Williams have beaten your: sisters, aunts, mothers, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th cousins for 20 years; you have a right to disliked the WTA ; these lower middle class black women have destroyed your families careers. I have loved ladies tennis since King, Martina N., Chrissy, Grafi,, Selles, Davenport, Martina Hin. all Europeans...why because I love the game..race is secondary to real sports fans; but you are excused because you are probably a European; racial hate may be in your DNA,.
“Pale in comparison” is an expression. I don’t think he was talking about the Williams sisters skin color. Tennis is more of a power game now but back in Chris and Martina’s hey day it was more about strategy and finesse. Plain and simple. Matches were much more suspenseful to watch. Chill on the racism crap. It gets really old.
@@SunflowerChild82 after all these years just saw this! Pale in comparison meant NOTHING a out race. Its just an old expression meaning doesn't match up to the best
Chris is spot on, three years on
Like the way Martina was nice about Conchita.
It will be a sad day in the tennis world when the Williams sisters retire, I pray Venus gets that 8th slam this year, 3 finals in 2017 😉
I'll be rejoicing.
And it will free up the steroid supply in the United States.
That's why she locked herself up in a panic room when a drug enforcement wta official knocked at her door? She's a man, man.
Ha ha ha. It always ends in name calling and profanity when an argument is lost. And I'm not a "yank".
Electone_Guy bigger idiot for arguing with an idiot, stop talking to yourself
Omg oracle evert
Pretty dress Chris
Beautiful gowns.
Chris is so argumentative. It is an interesting contrast to her beauty. I love watching her play but it is always an argument.
Funny - even these two experts did not mention once Angelique Kerber - they, like all of us, did not expect what happend for Kerber in the first 7 month of 2018...
Top 10 tennis rivalries in Open Era : Evert - Naratilova, Borg - McEnroe, McEnroe - Lendl, Becker - Edberg, Agassi - Sampras, Williams sisters, Henin - Clijsters, Federer -Nadal, Djokovic - Federer, Djokovic - Nadal
Where is Jimmy Connors? His rivalries with Borg, and later McEnroe, and later Lendl, were legendary. After Evert-Navratilova, Federer-Nadal, and Borg McEnroe, I'd put Connors-Borg and Connors-McEnroe.
Graf - Seles, Graf - Sabatini
Maybe Sharapova has one more slam title in her, but the doping scandal has really taken an emotional strain on her. Also other players are openly calling Sharapova a liar.
Chris was right. Halep won her first slam with the French Open.
I just hope that the shitty WTA web site will be more user friendly next year. Then I'll come back.
OMG!! Seriously! Why did they change it? It's awful
AM i couldn't agree more!! The ATP website/highlights are so much better!!!
I wish they would hire the same designer team which made an ATP site (although it also has its issues). As of now WTA's is probably the worst sports site ever.
Gooooooo, Serena!
I think they're confused on what active means. Serena has best serve and best forehand. Venus or Muguruza has best backhand. Halep best athleticism.
Serena, Maria and Vika rulling the whole season, of course if they play enough. They usually never play the whole schedule, but always come to play ready. I would like to see Serena-Vika-Maria rivalries spread out in 2018. That would be most exciting. 😀
That would be a banner year
I love Chrissy's sassiness and the way her and Martina go back and forth. Martina was way off on her predictions and Chris was spot on, other than playing up Muguruza too much. She turned out to be a super talented, but streaky player.
I think the predictions are great but I do feel that Simona is going to come back even stronger. Garbine is going to continue to be a head case and I think Wozniacki is going to win her maiden slam next year. Getting rid of the lets would be great, ball toss regardless is problematic, bathroom breaks should never be announced and they should do it immediately that way, the viewing tv audience isn't aware and there's no loss of interest.
Svit for slam in 2018. she lost a lot of close three setters. If she can elevate her game just a little she can vastly improve her results in 2018.
Madison Keys for her first slam title next year. Australian open or Wimbledon.
What is it with Narva and Pliskova? She hasn't done anything. Evert nailed it and was right about so many things. Osaka 100%, Mugu has the size and shots to become anything she wants. Should get Conchita's help. Time's is ticking.
Chris got the Halep pick right !
No mention of Angelique Kerber? Wimbledon 2018 champion
why not every year????! cmon
How right was Chris on Naomi Osaka! I'm in 2021 and so I know
2018 will be sooooo interesting. Cant wait a slam with the top ten and the goats: serena, maria and azarenka.
Goats?! I see 1 Goat, a lamb...chop and....A Screaming bird of a sheep you've named...Venus is the only other active Goat
Venus still playing in 2023,chris said she will retire in 2018
right about osaka
Naomi Osaka - not a bad pick by Chris!
Wow! Really Chris going after Venus's bathroom breaks before a match,Venus has an illness where dry mouth is a symptom so she may hydrate herself before a match then needs to use the restroom right before it starts. Or her medication or diet that she uses to combat her illness could be the cause(plus this isn't something Venus has done from my recollection through her career it's something that started recently so it could be connected to her physical issues) so why take shots with out all the proper info? And anyway as a tennis fan using the RR before a match seems 100 times more respectful than during the match as others due between sets then sometimes taking their sweet time coming out. Even Martina's ball toss issue may have been about Venus,she does that often as due others BTW to me Screaming/screeching on the court like Maria Sharapova does is worse than before match RR breaks. Bottom line is CE you should inquire before you try to make something an issue reminds me of years ago when an L.A. Times sports writer went after Venus (before she was diagnosed) because she said after losing a close match that during the match she began to feel very tired(one of the symptoms of her illness) and acted as if Venus was making unsportsman like excuses(Venus is not in the habit of making excuses)when Venus was just being honest,that's an example of why having all the facts is a good thing.
If Osaka gets rid of her coach (the worst on wta by far), she indeed could make a big impact.
Sasha(ex Serena hitting partner) is her coach or is working with her
Osaka beat Serena
Venus! ❤️
Serve: Serena
Forehand: On a good day i think Keys has a huge forehand. But overall probably Venus or Halep. Maybe Pliskova. Love me some Sania Mirza forehand though.
Backhand: Id say Wozniacki but i can understand people saying muguruza.
Most improved: Although Wozniacki had a great year, she has already been no1. So id say Coco V most improved. Not a fan of ostapenko.
Maiden Slam: I'd say it's more likely to see Pliskova win one. But i really want Halep, Wozniacki or Radwanska to get one. Pliskova will get more than one eventually.
Rivalry: I enjoyed Pliskova vs Wozniacki this year. But my favourite rekindled rivalry this year was Venus vs Petra at US open.
Predictions. Serena will win a slam. Maybe wimbledon. but i think if she does comeback, she will be trying her absolute hardest to win Aus Open again and prove to people that she is still the greatest.
Id be ok with a shot clock, but maybe give an extra 10 seconds for rallies over a certain amount of hits. I dont mind the bung toss (mainly cause i dont want venus to be screwed).
sk8ingcoach1 your comment deserves a like without a second thought. Very good insights.
I think Serena will at LEAST win one slam. Maybe 2, maybe 3, hell maybe 4 because she's Serena. But she's hardly EVER had a year without winning a slam and I don't see that starting soon especially when Venus was extremely close 2 times at 37.
Yeah i mean i don't think she'll win the french. Her game is amazing but not as suited to Clay and i think she is less inspired there. And i think coming back and trying to win the Australian Open is a big ask, not impossible cause it's Serena, but definitely a big challenge. But i think wimbledon or Us open is far more likely.
14:14 who was she talking about? Was it Maria Sharapova?
Venus Williams
Sharapova. Bc she has to take that meldonium before matches
Evert's predictions were more spot on than Navratilova's. Though Venus didn't retire in 2019 and Serena never won another GS after 2017.
I like the idea of getting rid of the let rule, and getting a fault call for a fake ball toss. As for leaving the tennis court during a match It should be disallowed except when climate conditions are extreme. Injury time outs should be disallowed - if a player gets dizzy or gets muscle cramps or blisters...etc those should be considered "loss of condition" and at the point if the player is unable to play within the time guidelines it should be considered a walk over. I would love to see something done about the outrageous vocalizations during play...also would like to see them either enforce the no coaching rule or do away with it altogether.
Evert was spot on with Osaka.....and now she is No.1!
Evert right about Osaka
Chris she's ok I don't know about navratilova