Ubiquiti Networks Unifi USW-24-POE Gen 2 Switch Review
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Hey Tom, thought I would mention, only the Pro line of switches will be getting the L3 functionality once it comes to the controller, the functionality is already in the CLI interface, however iirc it does not survive a reboot. Just thought I would clear that up. the Pro switches, have L3, more POE ports, and SFP+ support. The normal line of switches are passively cooled, with less POE headroom and ports overall, with the added LCM functionality. Just thought I would let you know.
Thanks for the clarification
Lawrence Systems / PC Pickup sure thing! Always love your content! Can’t wait to see more videos on the upcoming Ubiquiti Products that are still in EA 😉
Forgot to mention that the Pro versions not only have 10G, but also PoE++ support. As always a great video, love your content
sitte is it 10g thru copper or SFP+?
Quang Tran sfp+. Only copper 10Gbe is xg6 along with poe++.
Thx for the quick review. Have wanted to see the inside and get an idea about heat...
But I do think they missed the mark by not having SFP+ for uplink.
The Gen 1 offers more POE Ports and more POE total wattage available. I don't care if the gen 1 is louder and maybe runs a little warmer it was more flexible. The 16 port Gen 2 can only run a couple 4k cameras and AP's until it's out of capacity from a POE wattage stand point. I would only upgrade to the pro version if I needed 10gb or supposed layer 3. The standard Gen 2 switches is a huge disappointment period
Being a Cisco enthusiast myself, I have to admit Ubiquiti do have some impressive specs.
kjakobsen look at unifi switch leaf. Its EA for now, but I was surprised they came with such a thing. Maybe they will really go full enterprise finally
Would definitely like to see a why layer 3 and when to use it video.
@Jaylincry Though it doesn't make that much sense considering this device still only has 1 Gbit/s connectivity. It's not like anybody will use this as a core switch (at least I hope), it's more of a access switch.
@Jaylincry So why can't the router handle the traffic in that case? In my home network it would be a bottleneck since I have a gigabit down ISP link, one NAS and a seperate server with 9 VM's.
A switch with a SFP+ port would be ideaal for 10 Gbit/s communication from my switch(es) to my UDM Pro.
The 24port Pro version is what I'm looking at as I want the SFP+. But I would love to see a video on why L3 is important..or more like what *won't* I be able to do without it.
Tom you are the best!!
I'm happy to see The innovation ubiquiti is doing to the unifi line of gen2 products
but in the same time I hope they don't discontinue their affordable gen 1 switches
I installed my USW-Pro-24 POE last week. Absolutely love this switch. Powers all my cameras and a 3 of the 5 access points. I was running the 150w 8 port before but switched to this due to better cooling since it actually has fans. Using the SPF+ port as an uplink from my core 10GbE switch. Great review Tom.
Insane that in 2020 we can't get sfp+ on a 24 port switch. Only 1g uplink :/ one of the real killers for me when deciding on ubiquiti
They do have one, it just costs more
Is it right to think that these run cooler because they have almost 62% less PoE capacity at 95w, down from 250w? This will be the major reason why I will likely buy the gen 1 version. 95w isn't enough to run 4 access points, 5 cameras, and a cloudkey gen 2 plus.
Slight correction. Only the Pro Gen2 switches will get L3 support...so far
allegedly it will..lol
Lawrence Systems / PC Pickup but hey, this has been promised before so I'm not holding my breath 😂
I just ordered some from my company. I was waiting for your review.
Last gen was better. The old 16 port switch had POE on every port, the gen 2 only has it on 8 ports, and it costs more. To hell with that.
Q they put on a pretty screen to distract from the crappy hardware
Keeps the power down though and therfore noise.
@@zag4me Yeah but less power at the same price. Noise is not a huge concern as these are designed to be in a rack
Ubiquity, please release a 16 port POE with 10g uplinks for a reasonable price!!
Just picked up a gen. 1 a week ago and just seeing this makes me think I should have got this instead.
Same here but this one has fewer poe ports and no fans. Still debateing if i should keep mine
@@email16v Yeah, I had mine already racked and was done with it. But I agree I prefer all the POE ports and fans.
I don't know... I'm still getting over losing unifi video on linux.
I updated my video few months ago. I guess that might be last update?
Me too man
The only problem with my existing Unifi switches is the heat, my units run between 50-70c and would probably appreciate a low rpm fan. :D - Love the screen functionality and promised L3 support. Can’t see myself dropping these into a production rack anytime soon but will definitely get one for my lab. I couldn’t help but notice USP-RPS mentioned on the gen2 site, I might have misunderstood but a custom UPS solution? Why reinvent the wheel, I would much prefer a second standard connector.
Thanks again for the informative video.
RPS ist not a UPS, it's designed to supply redundant power to the devices if you want it. Real enterprise hardware quite always has multiple power supplies because they like to die at some point and since downtime costs money ubiquiti decided to not equip their lineup with 2 power supplies but rather built a box to provide redundant power. It's kinda stupid tho because if the RPS system fails, there goes your redundancy for a few devices and not just single ones.
I just wanna have SFP+ in all of their switches as standard. What are they thinking???? The uplink of 16 / 24 ports is miserable with only 1GB links (even with link aggregation).
Thanks for showing us the new Gen2 switches.
The only thing I do not like is the lack of POE on all ports. I am assuming there is a model with all ports powered? I run all my home wiring through a patch panel and the POE is kinda randomly spread throughout those. Mostly for AP units and one other 8 port switch. With my first gen 250watt switch I don't have to worry about what ports I plug into and I like that.
Scan the QR code on his T-shirt. It is hilarious!
At which time code? Its never fully in picture at least my phone does no recognize it.
@@seelensand 3:05
That's fucking awesome. I didn't even realize there was a QR code on his shirt until I saw your comment.
"Layer 3 maybe someday but probably not and it's going to suck when we do release it"
Hell yeah dude, this is why I love your channel, I love the new release demos xD
I am waiting for 24x1Gbps 2xSFP+ :) Greetings from Poland.
Yes, that would make a lot more sense for sure!
Love your work as always!! Have been waiting for this vid 🙏🏻
Love all UBNT videos made by Tom! Thanks UBNT.
They promised L3 routing on 1st gen as well.... Unifi switching and routing lineup does not impress for enterprise. Seems like they’re aimed at consumers. Such a pity.
This is exactly the issue i've been running into with our new IT execs (they want to replace out Cisco/Meraki gear with these because they're cheap). It's very pro-sumer but not Enterprise grade. Maybe someday...just not in the near future. Wonder if they'll ever offer stacking?
We went the opposite direction. We have some Unifi switches and they replaced them with Cisco 3650s and 9200/9300 switches. The want a unified switches line up across-the-enterprise they manage many companies we are just one.
Definately would like the L3 switching vid
I have the gen1 24 port poe switch and I would upgrade SO fast if they had added SFP+...instead I will keep my current one
kobodey Pearson they did on the 24 pro
Looks like the only vents are front and back, not top or bottom. Can the rack ears be turned 90 degrees for wall mounting?
Three years later and still no Layer 3.
Not sure if the ears can be turned, but some models do have layer 3 routing, but it's not great.
FYI. These run very hot! I don't know how hot as they DONT have a sensor in. (Pro Model does) I wouldn't recommend using these in a enclosed rack unless you have good air flow through the cab. I will be drilling a nice hole either in the back and top and adding a fan for piece of mind. Had to do the same on 8port 150w ahhhhhh!
Thanks for your great reviews. I’m very computer tech/savvy, but a bit of a novice when it comes to any sort of sophisticated home network, but am currently upgrading & stepping up my game.
I’ve already decided on the 15U rack and the UniFi Dream Machine Pro, but am trying to decide between this UniFi 24-port POE switch or a similar Netgear POE switch that I found for about $150 less.
Layer 3 is more then welcome. We have some Cisco SG 300 switches who would melt down if layer 3 was enabled. As long as it is reliable I'm all for it. Waiting anxiously
Damnit! Now I am mentally justifying the need for a Gen2 switch! I have filled up my Gen1 24 port (non-POE) switch already on my home rack... and adding more servers this week. So I may be ordering this to pair with my Gen1.
Interesting and useful. Good to know that it could be a layer3 switch at some later stage. Passively cooled can be sketchy but looking at the case, the heat sinks and space in there it looks like a promising design.
I've been holding off buying a Unifi switch to see what the Gen2's would come with as I want a layer 3 option. Pretty tough to justify that price for "future" option when I don't need the power output.
Need to upgrade my USW-24-POE to a 48 port switch soon.. so I guess I will wait until the gen2s hit the stores
Did anyone got the chills when touching near the power supply with the screwdriver?
I've been watching Big Clive for long enough that I don't notice fingers going near big chunky mains capacitors anymore. Worst case, it bites. But in a properly designed power supply, it's safe within about 30 seconds of unplugging.
And in America, it's only sissy little 120v mains anyway.
Would like to see them give us a way to handle IPv6 - still can’t see shit when it comes to IPv6 in the GUI. Hope they will bring this in 2020 - better be late than sorry 👻
None of the Gen 2 switches support 24V passive, so that's why the option isn't there.
Removal of passive PoE is kind of a deal breaker for me right now. I don't know if they're trying to keep people from mixing AirMax devices in with Unifi or what their plan is, but it's rather annoying.
Removal of passive is actually a selling point for me.... Removes that chance of someone plugging a gigabit device into a passive port and rendering it a 100mbps only device.
Yes, I've seen it done.
@Spencer Iezzi I currently have 7 passive devices plugged in. So an extra $140 would be rather painful.
@tin2001 That is a risk. Until they get rid of all the passive devices they sell, it's a needed feature.
Yes on L3 Video please
Great! Thank you very much! ☺️ Would be interesting to hear something about the Gen2 Pro switches... 😉
Hi Tom, I follow you on youtube and have to say that I love the content. I hope you can help me a bit transitioning from my Meraki network as I do not want to keep paying for licenses. I think I have watched all your videos about Unifi devices but it looks like I have not seen anywhere detailed information about QoS. For example, prioritize traffic between subnets/vlans/etc. Is this something where Unifi fall short? what other alternative would you recommend that cover such a vast range of devices (Networking, Camera, Access) ?
Ha! Nice shirt :) "Malware installed successfully" made my day, lol
I thought the gen 2 models had active POE ports instead of passive. Which means you can use IP cameras.
Just getting into this " switch " area. It is a beautiful unit however, it only has 120w and available 95w. For a regular home with 2 ap ( unifi 6 lite ) and 3 ip cameras this should be fine correct?....with a little room to spare. I would ideally like everything to be the same with little amount of fiddling around.
All this being said would there be another solution that would work great with unifi6 lite ap's that would not cause any problems?
Like stated earlier first time into the realm of switches so just trying to get understanding - due to the variety of hardware out there. Thanks. Great videos by the way.
Cable distance and end equipment expansion (usw-flex) and PoE Splitter (to mikrotik router), should you choose USW-24-POE(95W) or US-24-250W?
Thank U for the video, have my current home network switches on Ebay to fund the purchase of these quite switches
hello mr Lawrence, love what your doing, but ive been reading a few comments and am not sure which direction to take now. im or will be setting up home, business net work , ill cut to the point, my net work will consist, usg, cloud key g2+, AP 3xnano, AP 1x uap-ac-pro v2,5-6 cameras g3 pro and it was to be us-24-250w switch, i like the sound of the usw=24-poe gen2. Mr Lawrence which way would you go ?
Any news on UniFi and WiFi6 ? (Not Alien...) THANKS !
Hey I was wondering if you have ever worked with the new Unifi WiFi BaseStation XG? If so can you tell me if it is really outdoor rated, meaning can I install it outdoors without putting it into an external enclosure? Also could you tell me what kind of range I can expect to see and if there are any deadspots?
Are they phasing out the old switches? Or are these ones going to be out there in addition to the old ones?
Random question, but has anyone done more of a tear down? I want to know how easy it would be to remove the power supply and run it off a 12v supply.
You did good vid man really Nice review make Layer 3 switching Review tom
Do they still do passive POE or has that been dropped? I'm keen to move to POE, but after an incident that killed a laptop with passive POE (it wasn't my doing, and the port was set to disabled but was still applying power for some reason), I've decided I only want 802.3af (or better).
Hey great video, can you make some reviews for Cisco switch and routers? Thanks.
Hey, I know you don't do reviews of things you don't use, but have you ever looked at clearOs?
i like the switches but without layer 3 support i simply couldnt deploy them ill stick with my edge switches and unms for now
Our factory product it for the byer and try to best to help other can join wifi and share their life
Can you do a Unifi VOIP review?
Does anyone know what the power consumption of these things is? the old switches used quite a lot power for their own and ran very hot. Or did i miss anything here?
Quick question on these new switches from unifi, regarding 24v passive poe for access points and g3 cameras do they support these items at all specifically 6x g3 cameras, cloud key gen 2 plus and 3x ap ac lrs.?
They have a support by model list here help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/360037335694-UniFi-Switch-Model-Comparison
That switch boot light indicator is sexy
Great video, thanks for posting!
Nice new Products, but i think the Price is too much
Greetings from Germany
I am watching this 3 years later, and I still am not sure of the benefit of the display in most use cases. Most switches are in a rack in a server room or remote and not really somewhere that is being watched during normal day to day operations. Opening the software, to me, seems to be something more likely to be done than physically looking at a swtich. It might not be significant, but make the unit $30 cheaper and go back to just the blue/white LED.
In case someone is watching this now, the reason there is no force on PoE is because these switches do not do Passive PoE as far as I have been told.
Does the big heatsink need thermal paste?
Weren’t the old switches poe on every port?
Exactly this. Looks like a downgrade to me - compared with the previous generation.
@@_Steven_S looks like pretty unimpressive internals also, looks like they pulled parts from china generic market and put it in a fancy case. [look sloppy]. Curious what older gen looks like underneath.
Yes but that needs much more power therefor wouldn't be able to be passive.
@@_Steven_S Also power budget is embarrassing for a switch at this price. As sexy as the look they are over priced and under spec'd. Who do they think they are, Apple?!
I've always avoided UniFi switches because they only carry a 1yr warranty. My thinking is for something as critical as a network switch, if they don't trust it I don't trust it.
We switched exclusively to them about 5 years ago. We've had maybe 1% fail during that time. Overall if you're using unifi AP in conjunction with the switches the time savings when remote managing them alone is worth it.
I just updated the firmware and now the "star field" screen saver is constantly on. Is this a bug? I don't mind it timing out to the screen saver but it should completely turn off after no input from the user after so many minutes. Anyone know if this is being worked on? This is putting unnecessary wear on the screen.
So 3 years later - what have they upgraded on this switch - any extra functionality? Any heat issues?
We still use them, no heat issues.
@@LAWRENCESYSTEMS thanks for answering - did they ever improve the functionality with firmware updates? Competitive L2 "smart" switches have so much more than they list for this (officially). A simple TP-Link equivalent L2 switch has things like DHCP relay and ACL filtering - they border on L3 functionality at a cheaper price-point. The ONLY advantage I see with this switch is the size (depth-wise) and fanless-design if that is a requirement. Functionality-wise they are way behind competitive products it seems
OK, where is the (Amazon) link to buy this?
Can the small display be forced to stay on...So that when walking a hallway you could look and see the bandwidth at a glance?
Iirc the screens can be set from the site settings in the unifi controller.
Are the 10GB switches also passively cooled?
Would this switch and the UDM Pro be good for a small home network with three unifi AC Pro's and 4-6 Unifi G3 Pro cameras?
The Rock Cop I run this switch with the UDM PRO, 5 G3 cameras, and a AP on my home network just fine.
Do a L3 video !
Laws protect us from those taper warranty stickers
Not everywhere.... And even when the law says you can open it, the sticker is a clue that they might need to check for damage internally. If there's a big scrape mark, or missing components, warranty might be void still.
In the US the law protects us. Obviously there are some limits.
Do you know if the gen2 16 port is powerfull enough (POE wise) to run 3 AC PRO and a gen2 key plus?
Drax Mordante Even the 8-60W does that. So yes.
I can't trust Ubiquiti as a company after it pushed the recent telemetry changes to it's AP software.
I want to decide what updates do to my hardware, I don't want someone else to decide for me or to assume they know best.
I think I'll stick to my goal of using scratch built switches for my needs, something which I can control at every level, I know I'm probably a niche customer in this regard, but I value my ability to choose.
I've been thinking about switching over to the Ubiquity ecosystem. Can you give me a link to the change(s) you are talking about? That may sway my decision. Thanks.
@@turbo2ltr I believe that Lawrence Systems has actually covered such a topic, not fully in-depth, but enough to give you a rough idea of how Ubiquiti seem to be operating as a business going forwards
Edit: I will grab a link for you :)
I may just provide you with a "Paste Bin" link, that way I can offer multiple sources for the information, and you can then make your own decisions based on that & any further information that you find yourself :)
Always trying to keep people informed of what's going on, and provide feedback on how various businesses operate.
@@turbo2ltr Here is a link to a pastebin document I have created, no downloading needed, it just opens in the browser:
pastebin.com/SWNhWZDG
$400 really? Mikrotik has a 24x 10G and 2x 40G switch for $500
Wow, also PoE? Maybe I should change from UBNT to Micro then.... But I love the Control Center of UBNT
Soooooo None of this gen2 supports passive poe, right?
what do you think of Ubiquiti stuff not being UL listed?
@@unxformat5745 Still it can be a problem in some states if you get inspected. I've had to remove non-UL installs before
Is this switch capable of assigning vlans to a port or do trunking?
yes
Personally, I think they are still behind with the switches. Over 5 yrs ago I had purchased 48 ports PoE+, SFP+, stacking, L3 switches for $500 on the used market (Cisco switches, still under warranty, barely used). This isn't going to shake up the market at all.
Hope you love it. I am a worker in the factory product ubiquiti wifi
still can't purchase this anywhere....
What version of linux are you using
POP_OS!
what is the different with dlink unmanaged switch, both have huge different price
Great video ...... tks
Shit! To late. We have bought over 20 switches gen1 4 weeks ago. Most of them 48-port poe...
I'll buy one from you!
Uhhh.. he said "thorough-put"
I'd like to love UBNT, but they have abysmal follow through.
Too many products and product lines that are little more than proof of concept and never reach maturity.
I have two edgerouter8's gathering dust in the closet.
About twice a year, I load the latest version of their half assed OS, confirm that it still sucks, because the cli is awkward and the gui doesn't do enough on its own.
Its definitely not robust enough for anything beyond basic consumer level, but the average consumer can't make use of it.
Nor can it be managed by the consumer level nms software - it requires the carrier type software that can't manage ap's, so it's essentially orphaned from the single pane of glass model.
Started implementing their environmental monitoring products years ago, but they abruptly retired that line without ever bringing to market the upgrades buyers wanted - just more ports really.
Without a decent firewall appliance, I don't see much of a place for them in the consumer area, though for strictly a large scale wifi implementation, they are 'good enough' though they do require more babysitting than a hw controller platform like Cisco.
For now, I'm sticking with pfsense in a vm under esxi.
I can scale it up if I ever need to, but it handles a gig Wan connection with ids/ips at line rate on a single vcpu.
I have a couple of original ap's, but they're gathering dust as well as they aren't fast enough anymore.
I'm on a budget, so it makes more sense for me to buy trailing edge enterprise gear from eBay.
Really nit-picky but still: 4:20 Not Proof, its tamper evident :)
Want!!!
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Too lamer's vidio... Sorry