Everything About Firefly You Want to Know

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
  • In this video, Iyo discusses Everything About Firefly You Want to Know in Honkai Star Rail. He breaks down whether or not Firefly is a Top 5 DPS, needs Ruan Mei, or if she's completely F2P flexible. If you have any new questions feel free to ask in the comments down below!
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  • @omgjlmiub
    @omgjlmiub 16 дней назад +163

    Iyo try not to have a contrarian video thumbnail challenge.

  • @memetic_hazard
    @memetic_hazard 16 дней назад +25

    Ruan Mei's DMG% boost may not increase Firefly's damage, but her break efficiency certainly does. Factoring in Firefly's own 50% boost, RM's boost is a 33% net increase by itself, and this doesn't factor in the benefits of chewing through boss bars faster which may or may not save a turn. RM's ultimate Res PEN is another multiplicative 25% increase, for a net total of 66% overall damage. You could argue that most other DPS units don't take full advantage of RM's break efficiency because they don't invest in break effect. Even RM's speed boost is both a quantitative and qualitative improvement for firefly because you don't need to fish for speed substats on your relics unless you need to zero cycle.
    Could they make a dedicated support for Firefly that's better than RM without powercreeping her? Yeah, they could. But at that point it's likely to be a small improvement (a net 100% increase instead of RM's 66%, which you could get right now by just getting RM's E1) - or you just drop your sustain and run both. I think what's likely to 'complete' the break team is a 5 star Gallagher. We already have Fu Xuan for the hypercarries, HH for DoT, and Aventurine for FUA teams.

    • @neokatwastaken
      @neokatwastaken 16 дней назад +6

      I have seen "dreams" about a 5 star Break-focused healer in v2.5, but I think they will need to be quite overloaded to compete with what Gallagher can currently provide for Firefly

    • @memetic_hazard
      @memetic_hazard 15 дней назад +3

      I've seen those rumors too. I think what we're likely to get, if it is a break support abundance, is better break damage buffs in exchange for being a more traditional healing kit - something more like HH, with a buffing rather than offensive ultimate. Probably some sort of teamwide heal on break, with a buff that provides break efficiency.
      Basically, we don't get Gallagher's style on contribution in the form of his own toughness damage or super break, but the break efficiency is more universal for other elements and future break DPS, and may even outperform Gallagher's contribution.

    • @JohnDoe-si4eg
      @JohnDoe-si4eg 14 дней назад +1

      @@memetic_hazardyeah. I think they’ll probably have some toughness reducing teamwide buff along with enabling universal toughness bar shred. Like FF’s blast skill.

    • @soulfulhuman8724
      @soulfulhuman8724 12 дней назад

      I really hope whatever they give lingsha, the new healer... It should be op.
      I don't like huohuo kits and tbh lingsha is my only hope for abundance now.
      If she turns out to be huohuo 2.0 with break Shenaningans, i would be disappointed

  • @Moonnverse
    @Moonnverse 16 дней назад +129

    firefly is cute. that’s it. my reason to pull 🤠

    • @Rylai_xiv
      @Rylai_xiv 16 дней назад +3

      based af

    • @koko-hh2bq
      @koko-hh2bq 16 дней назад +1

      Based

    • @oskaripullinen4689
      @oskaripullinen4689 16 дней назад +4

      Mine is that she needs a hug...

    • @toukoenriaze9870
      @toukoenriaze9870 16 дней назад +5

      they hitting soo many demographics with her kek
      -cute anime girl
      -op mech

    • @ZakuZuko
      @ZakuZuko 16 дней назад

      U already sold me to her.

  • @sierr1302
    @sierr1302 16 дней назад +42

    the music aa bit too loud for me but great video mr iyo

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад +6

      I’ll let Strei know for the next edit. Thank you for pointing this out!

    • @KillSwitchdaGod
      @KillSwitchdaGod 12 дней назад

      Yup, I was gonna say the same thing.. suuuper distracting.

  • @AetiusUS
    @AetiusUS 16 дней назад +7

    This video was awesome, I place so much value on your insight when it comes to the technical stuff. Thanks for going so in-depth!

  • @tylerdrummond4078
    @tylerdrummond4078 16 дней назад +6

    Dmg% doesn’t boost super break dmg but Mei’s weakness effeciency boosts the super break dmg which. Is essentially the same thing. Her bloom on ult delaying break recovery then allows more super break to be dealt and then the res pen increases the dmg as well. So nothing in Mei’s kit is being wasted really because the weakness efficiency doubles as the dmg%

  • @zyestes9786
    @zyestes9786 16 дней назад +8

    Why ppl never complained if other DPS can pair up with the best 5s Harmony Unit that bring out their best potential, but when it comes to Firefly suddenly ppl complaining about her with RM as disadvantages.. HMC are already free right? so just putt one more 5s Harmony supp RM for her to unlock her full potential considering we can use Gallager as sustainer that's also available on her own banner.. Otherwise just use Asta with her still good..

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад +7

      It’s cause a ton of folks purposely skipped Mei for Sparkle or Robin, back on her initial release, and have been complaining about any team that “needs” Mei. TLDR; if they can’t easily replace Mei’s purpose on a team with some AA Harmony unit, they will doom it.

    • @JohnDoe-si4eg
      @JohnDoe-si4eg 14 дней назад +3

      @@IyoverseWild seeing people complain about needing the premium break support for the premium break team.

    • @FiniksLP
      @FiniksLP 12 дней назад

      @@Iyoverse i laugh every time cause i got ruan mei on random early pity

    • @magmaspacer1967
      @magmaspacer1967 9 дней назад

      @@JohnDoe-si4egI mean, Boothil, Luka, and Xeuyi are break units yet you can build them for different things with various options. You can or don’t have to use hmc with them, can use Tingyun, Robin, or dot along with Mei. But Firefly really is just hmc and Mei to my knowledge. If you don’t have Mei then Firefly is not doing damage for half or more of her attacks after they recover.
      Personally I like the idea of various teams for fun purposes. I also like Xeuyi who is also a break unit, so at times Firefly can’t get both Mei and HMC. She needs to choose while my Xeuyi can make use of Tingyun or other element characters.

  • @taoboyce6412
    @taoboyce6412 16 дней назад +35

    22:17 I definitely want a follow up on that "firefly does jingliu damage with RM, blade damage without RM" thing, cause I get that her damage is cracked with RM, but how bad is it without?
    I'm thinking it's more like "firefly does acheron (or better) damage with RM, jingliu damage without RM" based on what I'm seeing so far

    • @deviant315l6
      @deviant315l6 16 дней назад +11

      That’s what I’ve seen too. Closer to boothill/acheron but jing Liu when no RM

    • @shirio45
      @shirio45 16 дней назад +1

      boothill be like "nah I'd win"

    • @toukoenriaze9870
      @toukoenriaze9870 16 дней назад

      like its probably still better than most other chars just because of the 3-4 attacks per ulti ... but probably not by much

    • @Gration_
      @Gration_ 16 дней назад +2

      @@shirio45 Unless he's E6, he probably wouldn't though, and if they're both at E6, I'm sure FF would smoke him then too. They both pretty much use the same team, but Boothill doesn't do AoE, and he's basically the only phys break on his team to boot, meaning it's going slower. Anything like Bronya you'd decide to slot in instead could be used for FF as well, and would be used to greater effect on top of that considering she just gets more turns in her ult then.

    • @shirio45
      @shirio45 16 дней назад +3

      @@Gration_ boothill is still by far the best bosskiller, and that even without the new relic set which makes him do so much damage it's not even funny. I mean it's different when you do 700k on a single target or 700k on 3 targets. With the current format in moc he one shots almost everything when he breaks

  • @CocoTea661
    @CocoTea661 16 дней назад +9

    Haven’t even checked her out yet waited for your input.

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад +1

      FF is sauuuucy!

  • @Rylai_xiv
    @Rylai_xiv 16 дней назад

    Love your takes, man. definitely gave me a lot of good food for thought ahead of this banner. i'm planning on droppin a couple bags on both FF and mei, need to decide who i get eidolons for and who get lightcones for though.

  • @orangemage9522
    @orangemage9522 16 дней назад +3

    Thank you! People saying there is a damage loss without Ruan Mei is not about Firefly being bad, but about Ruan Mei being great! Finally a character who can fully utilize Ruan Mei's amazing buffs!
    Also, Genshin should take notes! Making the MC not only viable but the best option for a team comp makes those of us who roleplay as MC during story content quite happy!

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 16 дней назад

      Yea no lol nobody wants to pull for characters they don't want only to make their favorites good

    • @orangemage9522
      @orangemage9522 14 дней назад +1

      @@Thedoorway123 Characters nobody wants to play Ruan Mei and Firefly? The community loves these characters, lol.

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 14 дней назад

      @@orangemage9522 the community does not equal everyone lol🤣

    • @orangemage9522
      @orangemage9522 13 дней назад +1

      @@Thedoorway123 No one is forcing you to pull for Firefly, relax 🙄

  • @deviant315l6
    @deviant315l6 16 дней назад +3

    isnt telos the same person that was calling firefly shit because she doesnt do as much dmg as acheron. Yes boys we are here, people are delusioned thinking acheron is the norm.

  • @forbiddensuper2369
    @forbiddensuper2369 16 дней назад +5

    Luckily I have e2s1 Ruan Mei already so all I need is firefly to finish my break teams

  • @araulen4820
    @araulen4820 16 дней назад

    Thanks again for the video! Ik the recommendation was to pull for one or the other but I REALLY like break effect so im planning on pulling firefly even though i have boothill! Ill prob just pull toll i het her and only her and then save.

  • @shadow-faye
    @shadow-faye 16 дней назад +29

    They could give firefly -100% crit rate and people would still try to run critfly

    • @Tiasung
      @Tiasung 16 дней назад +5

      Hey if Crittlesticks works, anything can work!

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад +4

      What the heck is a Crittlest- You’re talking about League of Legends?! Lol

    • @AdrianConstantin-fb6kk
      @AdrianConstantin-fb6kk 16 дней назад

      ​​@@IyoverseMaybe he is talking about DOT🙃

    • @xXzman9000Xx
      @xXzman9000Xx 16 дней назад +2

      i've seen some crazy crit kokomi's, people will force it to work lol

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 16 дней назад

      If you get 2 Crit stats on the Break effect set....Xueyi would definitely love it

  • @quineborgeslucas7059
    @quineborgeslucas7059 16 дней назад +1

    The only IDEAL break support that would be better than RM for FF would be a non-universal break-oriented support with res pen, break efficiency in place of dmg% buffs, gives speed and break effect to the team and has a very strong ST 100% action advance on ult to help getting the most from each FF ult state. It will be a while until such character is released.
    HMC is Superbreak enabler so i am not counting them, they are beyond support.
    I like that as i go commenting and watching the video, Iyo already commented everything i said. We are on the same page, unfortunately not all CCs are as thoughtful about the advice they put out as Iyo, they just copy what someone else said and keep regurgitating stuff.

  • @hazardsigns
    @hazardsigns 16 дней назад +1

    To the person asking why signature light cones, let me present my favourite: Fu Xuan's cone 👍🏻 The full team 80% heal at the start of each round feels amazing! Works for SU and PF especially, but also recent MoC and any random event where your teams are battling waves of mobs. I love this light cone and will never regret pulling it. If I ever stop using Fu (god forbid), I can what it on any other preservation and enjoy the healing benefits.

  • @kxngkem3764
    @kxngkem3764 16 дней назад +3

    In the last cn moc, fast clear is
    Kafka, B.S, Robin, ruan mei
    Hpyercarry Acheron
    Hpyercarry DHIL
    Now wait, see who makes the top 3 in this current moc.

  • @gitogal
    @gitogal 16 дней назад +4

    iyo what do you think of break effect sushang with the new firefly set?

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад +6

      I need to test it out so that will get added to the list, but I genuinely like Sushang so there’s that. 😅

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 16 дней назад +3

      As long as you add HMC to add the Superbreak, E1 or E6 Sushang can be your budget Boothill.

  • @Rix.p
    @Rix.p 16 дней назад +2

    Hi Iyo, I have the complete IPC emergency team, and I have Acheron, black swan, pela, and universal market mc. Do you think firefly would be good for PF because I struggle clearing it. Or should I pull Jade?

    • @robot7338
      @robot7338 16 дней назад

      jade supremacy

    • @shadow-faye
      @shadow-faye 16 дней назад +1

      You already have a team for jade, if you don't for firefly go with jade
      Jade being erudition can probably help you in pf enough

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад +2

      You should not be struggling with Pure Fiction using either of those teams. 😭
      FF might help you, but I’m not sure just yet since PF deals with killing enemies asap. FF still has to fulfill the break condition at all times.

    • @Rix.p
      @Rix.p 15 дней назад +1

      @@Iyoversethank you Iyo, truthfully it’s probably because my Acheron isn’t built as well as she could be. The IPC team never struggles but it’s probably my relics being sub optimal.

  • @GanYu69420
    @GanYu69420 16 дней назад +17

    She's on par with Acherussy if not better
    Definitely going for that E2

    • @groovy8368
      @groovy8368 15 дней назад +1

      Is she really though ?

    • @JohnDoe-si4eg
      @JohnDoe-si4eg 14 дней назад +2

      @@groovy8368yeah. They’re at there closest in the 0-cycle. Once you leave that range FF becomes stronger due to higher consistency. It’s why FF calcs higher.

  • @toukoenriaze9870
    @toukoenriaze9870 16 дней назад +11

    think people just dont like having to spend that 300$ in the first place

  • @tylerdrummond4078
    @tylerdrummond4078 16 дней назад

    Iyo talkin Star Rail. Feels good

  • @drkdia4872
    @drkdia4872 15 дней назад

    love that iyo is about play and enjoy the game. let me tell you how every level works so every type of player can see what they get and judge from that. the real mvp 💯 🙌

  • @jaster8857
    @jaster8857 16 дней назад

    Do you ever upload your vods anywhere? I really wanted to watch this stream, but looks like it’s muted on twitch

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  15 дней назад +1

      VODs are typically on Twitch, but this last one was messed up! That was my fault. I changed some stuff in OBS and the vod track was messed up. Future streams shouldn't be like that at all.

  • @sfzndo
    @sfzndo 15 дней назад

    ayo iyo thanks for adding the song names

  • @d0minican0milan0
    @d0minican0milan0 16 дней назад +1

    Truly a thumbnail for the ages 😂

  • @Dr_Smash
    @Dr_Smash 16 дней назад +1

    If you're relatively new, this is basically the pull value on 2.3 phase 1:
    E0 RM > E0 FF
    Then, after that:
    E1/E2 FF > E1 RM > S1 RM > S1 FF
    This is considering you've got both, but want to keep pulling. E1 RM gives a strong DEF ignore, but E1/E2 FF is absolutely monsterous compared to other dps, even E2 Acheron. The LCs are strong but can be compensated for.

  • @wolfVFV
    @wolfVFV 15 дней назад

    for whats faster then 0 cycle: the new mode that got teased will track speed value. so beeing faster ina 0 cycle will lead too a higher score

  • @cloudofclout1563
    @cloudofclout1563 16 дней назад +1

    I already have boothill and his lc, but I hope to get FF so I can run break on both sides lol.

  • @mosenguvu
    @mosenguvu 15 дней назад

    Waited for this. Now tell us master should we pull

  • @orion615
    @orion615 16 дней назад

    Current moc is heavily favoured towards firefly and boothill. I wonder how well ff will perform without ruan mei on other moc

  • @tallyhoswilly_4973
    @tallyhoswilly_4973 16 дней назад +9

    Doesn't FF have her own in-built super break? I remember they added that on her buff patch.

    • @robot7338
      @robot7338 16 дней назад +1

      yup

    • @-michael2904
      @-michael2904 16 дней назад +6

      Yes but its kind of wack, adding hmc super break is where thr real dmg comes from

    • @Phiro00
      @Phiro00 14 дней назад +2

      @@-michael2904 what makes firefly's break damage so high is adding her own and hmc's together. its high because theyre added.

  • @stefancamillus5024
    @stefancamillus5024 16 дней назад +2

    About the weakness implant, does it remove the mobs' resitance to that element? (Not asking about breaking toughness, just the damage resistance)

    • @taoboyce6412
      @taoboyce6412 16 дней назад +4

      it doesn't remove the resistance, so it'll still be less damage than being naturally on element

    • @stefancamillus5024
      @stefancamillus5024 16 дней назад

      @@taoboyce6412 thanks! 👍

    • @mongrelshadow14
      @mongrelshadow14 16 дней назад +2

      It does not. Same with Bootyhill's implant. Probably a safe bet that's how it will work in the future.

    • @stefancamillus5024
      @stefancamillus5024 16 дней назад +1

      @@mongrelshadow14thanks! 👍
      I've always found implanting weakness to brute force isn't that great xD so was just curious

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 16 дней назад +1

      If you put Fire Weakness on a "Fire/Burn Immune" Enemy...It only "slightly" helps them in doing Break DMG.
      But you might as well use an Ice DPS, rather than Bruteforcing it.

  • @GhostEmblem
    @GhostEmblem 16 дней назад +1

    Can someone link me to destinys vid that explains the one turn ult pls

  • @taoboyce6412
    @taoboyce6412 16 дней назад +6

    I love this guy's thoughts and opinions, even when they're questionable since they create good discussion
    not saying that this video has bad opinions, I agree with this one at least

  • @spursamn
    @spursamn 16 дней назад +4

    I have Ruan Mei from first banner, Acheron, Aventurine... I don't know if I will be able to get enough pulls in time to pity Firefly but she is 100% a must pull for me, plus Gallagher is on the bannwr

  • @FiniksLP
    @FiniksLP 12 дней назад

    to the e2 question i would say Huohuo her e1 gives a speed boost and her e2 gives a free revive.

  • @92blim
    @92blim 15 дней назад

    great advice, have a comment for the ol algorithm

  • @BauBauS.E.E.S
    @BauBauS.E.E.S 15 дней назад

    i think that firefly is going to be super future proof like how kafka is for dot teams cuz just like dot teams the more break based characters that come out the stronger firefly gets

  • @Igloomain
    @Igloomain 16 дней назад

    I skipped Acheron for Firefly. I am ready for her. I am really curious what her full potential is. Gallagher is a 4 star so 5 star version is inevitable.

  • @dafneecastillo7581
    @dafneecastillo7581 16 дней назад +1

    Not sure if this question has been answered but here I go:
    Lightcone wise: would you recommend summoning for RM signatures lightcone over Memories of the Past for HMC if you already have RM at S1?

  • @hlonghi
    @hlonghi 16 дней назад +2

    Ok, time to check what unhinged take Iyo has on Firefly.
    obligatory NUCLEAR DRAMA!!!!!!! 🤣
    edit: nooooooo. no nuclear drama this time😢

  • @niigolover
    @niigolover 15 дней назад

    I'm pulling ruan mei's E1 (guaranteed in 25 pulls, hopefully i can get her on soft pity and save some pulls) and at least E1 sam (S1 would be nice)

  • @OGMak7
    @OGMak7 16 дней назад +1

    I need a fire DPS, plus its firefly so i pull

  • @notxendras7730
    @notxendras7730 16 дней назад

    Yooo This "Seele" Video is crazy!!😂😂😂

  • @Thisiselliz
    @Thisiselliz 16 дней назад +2

    You’re not going to stop me from
    Building star rail team Rocket

  • @zarlox48
    @zarlox48 16 дней назад

    yooooo i was on that streeam lets go nice video

  • @Yenrei
    @Yenrei 15 дней назад

    Hold on, Jiaoqiu is on the way. He may or may not have something to add to the mono fire Firefly dream team

  • @kinorobloodlust
    @kinorobloodlust 16 дней назад

    Ayo didn’t know Iyo fw Brown Dust 2. That game will shatter your perception of how generous a gacha can be.

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад

      I’ve lost every pity pull since Christmas in BD2. 😭

  • @quineborgeslucas7059
    @quineborgeslucas7059 16 дней назад

    My opinion on Pulling for FF or RM:
    When i'm making this assessment, i am assuming that the rumors that down the line the devs will increase enemy off-element resistance are true and i'm preparing for that. This means that fighting on-element will become more important than ever.
    That said, FF DOES have additional value being the only limited 5* DPS we have (i am ignoring Himeko and i won't put Topaz as a main dps).
    So i'll present three cases for newer accounts and i'm assuming acheron haver:
    No Robin
    RM>FF>FFE1. E1 gives you a lot of teambuilding flexibility. FF premium team can be very sp positive with gallagher being practically +2 and RM being +2, it all depends on if you will use HMC skill every single turn. The same can't be said for other teams except FF + Sparkle but this one is a bit weird.
    With Robin/E1/Lots of limited supports.
    There are a lot of wasted stats with robin but she does give supplemental damage and superbreak teams do act a lot and are easier to optimize for SPD due to the nature of superbreak. With E1, Robin also gets the second most valuable thing RM can give to FF teams, universal penetration.
    So,
    Robin E0:
    FF>RM>FF/RM E1 (again, going for flexibility)
    Robin E1
    FF>FFE1>RM (You want to free that robin for other teams, but if you have the worst luck, you can still improv with her or asta).
    Many DPS (Literally skipped every support for the DPS of each banner)
    If you have a lot of DPS, FF will be your "Fire DPS". But RM can benefit more teams and you will get way more flexibility with an E0 RM than you would get with an E1 FF. Plus, i am assuming you are broke on resources from building too many DPS,
    So
    RM>RME1/S1>RMS1/E1> FF. You REALLY can wait for a rerun unless you really love Superbreak, in that case, replace the first RME1 with FFE0.
    Also, FFE2 is BUSTED, if my reading is correct, it can basically double the number of e.skills she does from 4 to 8 in a single ult cycle. I am thinking Skill>Break>AA>turn>skill>kill>AA>turn> cycle, it seems she can't act again into act again like seele does, but if the act again does count as a turn, then it goes from 4 to 8. If it doesn't, then it goes from 4 to 6 which is still pretty strong.
    Also, fellas, remember: Jiaoqiu exists and he will be the 5* Pela.

  • @wubba3019
    @wubba3019 15 дней назад

    Hope i get lucky and get her after pulling ruan mei

  • @friendlygiant1507
    @friendlygiant1507 16 дней назад +5

    Clickbait thumbnail?

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад +2

      No. It’s a question from the Twitch chat.

  • @MostafaEsk-sb5bo
    @MostafaEsk-sb5bo 16 дней назад +1

    Ah yes I don't have hsr but i fallow this guy

  • @JorgeHenrique-mz8qy
    @JorgeHenrique-mz8qy 16 дней назад

    Im already have E1 S1 RM and a guaranteed LC, FF will be the best option for me RN.

    • @1-hritayandebnath807
      @1-hritayandebnath807 16 дней назад

      Do make sure to get Eidolons over her signature... her signature lc is only 10-12 better than the herta store weapon... but her Eidolons easily give her 20 percent or higher dps increase... if you really want to increase your firefly and if that matters to you more than go for her Eidolons first after that get the lc..

    • @JorgeHenrique-mz8qy
      @JorgeHenrique-mz8qy 16 дней назад

      ​@@1-hritayandebnath807 Sure, i will try to get her E1, but the LC is already guaranteed and on pity

    • @Fractural
      @Fractural 16 дней назад

      ​@@1-hritayandebnath80719% better you mean

  • @doublevalentine5970
    @doublevalentine5970 15 дней назад

    Of course she's too 2. She's a most pull for me as well. She literally gives everyone fire weakness so I could bring her everywhere

  • @Zolwiol
    @Zolwiol 15 дней назад

    I got E1 boothill in 30 pulls. I will be getting Firefly. Why? Because. I. Want. Firefly.

  • @someoneidkwho860
    @someoneidkwho860 15 дней назад

    brake Kafka with er rope is the best build this moc cycle and apocaliptic shadows

  • @skych.1877
    @skych.1877 16 дней назад

    i dont have sustain like FuXuan, Adventurine or even healer like Huohuo so i gladly take firefly as my dps.

  • @NARUTOnemesis
    @NARUTOnemesis 16 дней назад

    If only you could be community noted for engagement farming due to mislead thumbnail bro..... jk. Great vid and great discussion about our beloved Kamen Rider/ Iron Women/ Rei Ayanami.

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  15 дней назад +1

      If only you could use your brain for common sense.

    • @NARUTOnemesis
      @NARUTOnemesis 15 дней назад

      @@Iyoverse It was a joke 😆 and it worked! It's a great discussion on a character everyone is excited about. Should added that disclaimer. Edited og post.

  • @DTVenom
    @DTVenom 16 дней назад

    I was at Stream Yatta

  • @pilu4242
    @pilu4242 6 часов назад

    1 turn ult?? where can i get that?

  • @JohnPaulGarcia-fi3pg
    @JohnPaulGarcia-fi3pg 16 дней назад +1

    I learned my lessons from building Acheron.
    I'm pulling for Firefly because funnily enough, I have Ruan Mei and Gallagher built up, just unlocked HMC, so I might as well do it, being a Firefly fan is the cherry on top.

  • @opietaylorpiano
    @opietaylorpiano 16 дней назад +2

    Anybody got that destiny link for one turn ultimate he refers to?

    • @Dragonology99
      @Dragonology99 16 дней назад

      This!

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад

      It’s in her guide, but if she hasn’t highlighted it, then I’ll just upload me doing it myself. I already have the raw recording, it’s just not made into a video.

    • @neanahidden
      @neanahidden 16 дней назад

      If she’s not familiar to you, her channel name is Moon @moonverse. She goes both by Destiny and Moon :)

    • @opietaylorpiano
      @opietaylorpiano 16 дней назад +1

      @@neanahidden oh I know where to look now thank you!

    • @hughl33
      @hughl33 16 дней назад

      I believe they use quid pro quo o Gallagher

  • @ckwi2245
    @ckwi2245 15 дней назад +1

    Since after this the build up for Jade should be starting soon, I have a question for her.
    Jade's skill interaction with Blade, does it count as a separate damage instance per attack in relation to his talent? i.e. Blade uses his Enhanced Attack with Jade's Acquisition Surety Buff/Debuff does he get 2 Stacks instead of 1?
    I wonder if Jade can make Jing Liu/Blade dual-dps comp pump out his follow up even faster.
    Also feel much better about having to pass on Ruan Mei S1 after this video, since I lost the 50/50 on Fu Xuan S1 so have to rebuild tickets again. I'll probably be paying for my pull decisions as the year goes on anyways. Passed Adventurine, passing Boothill and Firefly, probably passing on Jiaoqiu. Hopefully 2.5/2.6 brings some BS level Abundance character I can grab, or finally a new 4* Preservation. Destruction/Nihility/Harmony have been getting slammed with chars past year.

    • @soulfulhuman8724
      @soulfulhuman8724 12 дней назад

      Bro same situation here.
      Went for acheron banner, lost 50/50.
      Went for jingliu(guaranteed) then got her at 76 pity.
      Went for her lc, got at 67 . (50/50)
      Went for aventurine but time got over.
      Been saving Till now to get ruan mei & probably FF & 1 Memories of the past LC.
      Have no limited 5 star preservation or abundance.
      My team does high dmg but fail to sustain and dies in 2 cycles.

  • @Xilibrius
    @Xilibrius 15 дней назад

    I wanted Firefly but it's Sam (yes I know they're the same person but i wanted her to actually be on the field and have her own mechanics). The initially release of her kit before they buffed her turned me off of pulling on her, going all in on Jade.

  • @toukoenriaze9870
    @toukoenriaze9870 16 дней назад

    i mean technically its not locked behind his superbreak? Cuz doesnt she have a weaker superbreak? You would just be insane for not using harmony superbreak since everyone has him xD

  • @OshinoReed
    @OshinoReed 15 дней назад

    Watch Firefly new animated short.

  • @UniHSR
    @UniHSR 15 дней назад +1

    Pls don’t call my wife mid 😡💢

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  15 дней назад +2

      I did not. Someone else did. 😤

  • @The_CodFish69
    @The_CodFish69 16 дней назад +1

    18:02 I think what they mean is RMs Damage% doesn’t do anything *However* weakness Break efficiency dose.
    Not only does it help with breaking but as well directly buffs SB Damage by increasing the *Toughness Break* damage because that is the main factor when determining SB damage of course then add in Lvl and Def down Etc to get the final numbers.
    As for 21:15 the RM signature Lc actually works best on HMC because they Ult faster so you get that one SP more often and you could then run the slow Mai build for exp.

  • @r.r.pharaoh6501
    @r.r.pharaoh6501 16 дней назад

    How do you feel about a dual dps Firefly Boothill team.
    With Ruan mei and maybe HMC?

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  15 дней назад

      The idea on paper sounds bad, but I'm curious how it would perform as well. It feels like one of them would completely outshine the other.

  • @rosalynvt
    @rosalynvt 15 дней назад

    I’m gunning for jade since I want something better than qq (4 star) I don’t hav seele. Sam upset me I wanted a male not female 😢 so I’m passing.

  • @neilbondoc2984
    @neilbondoc2984 16 дней назад

    Since I'm F2P, Looking for your opinion on Jade if I should pick up her or Firefly.

    • @giovanniford123
      @giovanniford123 15 дней назад +1

      Jade is for pf and might be aoe topaz

  • @fullvoid6663
    @fullvoid6663 16 дней назад

    I've got Boothill but will still throw a 50/50 at Firefly. If I get her then another 50/50 at her LC.

  • @KDM0X7
    @KDM0X7 16 дней назад

    16:22 uh instead of himeko, couldnt you use gui instead?

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  15 дней назад

      Lil' Gui doesn't have a Robot Jones talent.

    • @KDM0X7
      @KDM0X7 15 дней назад

      True but that robot aint moving much with over 360% BE firefly, the delay would take a while

  • @thecybervoid436
    @thecybervoid436 16 дней назад

    Im still bronyaless, well Firefly it is

  • @grammysworld5449
    @grammysworld5449 16 дней назад

    Every since Robin came out, Ruan Mei has been taking strays left and right.. People put their personal bias over common sense

  • @scath1465
    @scath1465 16 дней назад

    okay, now imma E2S1 ruan mei. just need 1 copy of her and her LC

  • @sdfasdfgdfghfgh
    @sdfasdfgdfghfgh 15 дней назад

    love the video but the music is very weird and too loud

  • @Xill926
    @Xill926 15 дней назад

    I would get firefly but i dont want her and boothill fighting over ruan mei and i perfer boothill so idk

    • @soulfulhuman8724
      @soulfulhuman8724 12 дней назад

      Very difficult situation.
      May hoyo give u 2 HTB & Ruan mei

  • @Cara_Veil
    @Cara_Veil 16 дней назад

    Firefly, Asta, Guinaifen, Gallagher would make a decent full fire break team

    • @FireflyIsSamusAranSister
      @FireflyIsSamusAranSister 16 дней назад

      If you don't care about damage sure 😅

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 16 дней назад

      Need HMC for them After Initial Break DMGs/Superbreak.

    • @user-eo2db5il3x
      @user-eo2db5il3x 15 дней назад

      FF without MC - just not going to work sorry. RM - whatever, help for casuals who can't play without her, but MC is mandatory.

    • @electrickzy
      @electrickzy 14 дней назад

      That team sounds horrible

  • @jaster8857
    @jaster8857 16 дней назад

    Is it still worth pulling RM over FF even if you don’t have a 2nd dps? Kind of answered in the video, but I’m even newer, and only have Ratio

    • @gpgmynos
      @gpgmynos 15 дней назад

      Yeah

    • @nfu2174
      @nfu2174 14 дней назад

      Get both if u can

    • @soulfulhuman8724
      @soulfulhuman8724 12 дней назад

      RM > FF anyday.
      Get both if u can but start with RM.
      Always remember dps will keep coming but supports/sustains are universal and better investment anyday.

  • @skullkrusher-dx4kg
    @skullkrusher-dx4kg 16 дней назад

    Is fireflys lightcone better for xuyei than firefly?

    • @foxiki387
      @foxiki387 16 дней назад

      No because xueyi is more focused on talent dmg unless you’re hyperbatting but then you can just run indelible

    • @Cuddle_with_Furina
      @Cuddle_with_Furina 15 дней назад

      Player that need to learn Signature 3 type effect is only work great for it's intended 5 star user . But some is still usable on other characters . Like Topaz lightcone for Dr Ratio & Ruan Mei LC for Harmony Trailblazer .

    • @crashsparrow6943
      @crashsparrow6943 15 дней назад

      @@Cuddle_with_Furina Harmony MC can make better use of Ruan Mei's own LC, believe it or not. They can spam more ults for more SP and it won't be at the cost of getting more ults like in Ruan Mei's case, because you can't get a 3 turn ult with S1 RM like you can with S5 memories.

    • @Cuddle_with_Furina
      @Cuddle_with_Furina 15 дней назад

      @@crashsparrow6943 yeah 2.3 banner is worth for me . If I fail to get it . 2 S5 4 star is still good

  • @KuroTheDesigner
    @KuroTheDesigner 16 дней назад

    song choice was a bit rough for the first part of the vid, got exhausting trying to listen to your voice through the extremely upbeat energetic music

  • @MeiEnjoyer
    @MeiEnjoyer 16 дней назад +1

    Here he comes. Crawling back.

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад +5

      Here you go. Getting that ass banned. 💀

  • @marcusbullock2753
    @marcusbullock2753 16 дней назад

    I’m just curious how long is break gonna be viable and is it future proof.

    • @crashsparrow6943
      @crashsparrow6943 15 дней назад

      The toughness bar and anything related to it is a core combat mechanic, so break teams won't go away unless the devs start spamming us with bosses that are immune to toughness damage or something.

  • @katsunakamura1644
    @katsunakamura1644 15 дней назад

    without rm delay it is painfull to play ff

  • @slasherzone
    @slasherzone 16 дней назад

    Top 2 and it's not 2

  • @LordStrell
    @LordStrell 16 дней назад +1

    Jiaoqui going to bring mono fire to life 🔥

  • @loow03
    @loow03 16 дней назад +2

    I want sam also in overworld but can't so skip I'd rather have ruan mei

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад

      Sam in overworld would’ve been so fire!

  • @zephyreagle
    @zephyreagle 15 дней назад

    Wouldn't Ruan Mei S1 be better so that you can put MotP on Harmony MC?

    • @vylet8270
      @vylet8270 15 дней назад

      I think both are great options for both. I've seen discussions about giving RM LC to HMC instead but like MotP at s5 is just as good with better energy gain.

  • @Burix1337
    @Burix1337 16 дней назад +1

    40m video bruh...

    • @Iyoverse
      @Iyoverse  16 дней назад

      Watch it in parts or just don’t finish it. No biggie, just good conversation.

  • @blacksongoku312
    @blacksongoku312 15 дней назад +1

    Undertale gang ❤❤

  • @silvercloud5344
    @silvercloud5344 16 дней назад

    5:15 The problem people have regarding this issue is if a player doesn't have HMC or RM built would FF still be a good pickup or top 5 DPS in the game? And that answer is no.

    • @tanjiroxart1301
      @tanjiroxart1301 16 дней назад +5

      Bro that's basicaly saying "what if I don't have tingyun or bronya or sparkle built ,is jingliu top 5 dps??"

    • @silvercloud5344
      @silvercloud5344 16 дней назад

      @@tanjiroxart1301 you have Pela, you have Blade, you have rm, you have Robin…. All of which work super well with JL.

    • @solomonwatson9401
      @solomonwatson9401 16 дней назад +1

      He's saying that FF team building options are very restricted, more than others.

    • @silvercloud5344
      @silvercloud5344 16 дней назад

      And to be fair, if you don't have Ty, bronya, sparkle, pela and rm then yes, skipping JL would be ways smarter for your account. It literally doesn't change my point. If you don't have 80% of the unit to make the dps work, you should just logically skip the dps.

    • @zyestes9786
      @zyestes9786 16 дней назад

      Dont have HMC build just lazy excuses lol.. They are literally free 😂 Every dps need their Harmony unit to shine, but complaining about free 5s Harmony unit not built enuff as one of the reason just pure laziness imo.. We've seen FF with HMC & Asta still doing good dmg tho.. But if others DPS deserved 5s Harmony unit, why being biased not allowing FF deserved a good 5s like RM then? since HMC is already free rite?

  • @MineMineMineMineMineMineMine
    @MineMineMineMineMineMineMine 16 дней назад

    I already have Boothill e6s5 so I'm going to skip Firefly. I will probably go for Jade coming up after because I need more Pure Fiction Erudition character help. I don't have Argenti, though I do have Himeko (I need to get her better Relics), but I have yet to ever 4 star the 4th PF stage (I'm always missing just that last little star)! I can always max out MOC, but I still struggle on PF. Also thinking of going Jade over Argenti cause I have Clara e2s1 that I can use for physical if I really need to and stick her on a FUA team.

  • @DamienCloud
    @DamienCloud 16 дней назад +2

    To be clear i'm not one of those people complaining but the argument of getting the premium damage without premium stuff is probably a little more nuanced than that. The playerbase most likely wants to get results achievable for f2p ( with smart use of ressources)/dolphins, that are 𝙘𝙡𝙤𝙨𝙚 to the premium options, IMO if you lose more than 20% dps from the first to second best in slot light cone it's an automatic skip for me because it's shameless purchase-enticing greed. It's a little more complicated when it comes to character but it still applies, Miyoho knows their numbers and the other options avaiable for this character, it's on purpose if you feel pressured to pull on weapons or other characters only relevant on a niche, because you are.
    The character should be complete without any more constellations or premium light cones or another very specific character, and not have a 50% damage difference it's just crazy to argue against that

  • @b1ckdrgn
    @b1ckdrgn 16 дней назад +15

    I'm definitely skipping her, I went all in on Boothill for my break meta team - E2S1 even, I went ALL IN

    • @Trollipop
      @Trollipop 16 дней назад +1

      Yea me too, I got E1S1 by accident I need ruan mei badly

    • @GanYu69420
      @GanYu69420 16 дней назад +11

      Dumb people who bricked their accounts above 🥴

    • @blueblazedemon
      @blueblazedemon 16 дней назад

      Going all in is going to E6 ☠️ firefly is still a better option for break

    • @cloudofclout1563
      @cloudofclout1563 16 дней назад +8

      @@GanYu69420 just because FF is like slightly better and more comfortable doesn't mean getting Boothill is bricking your account lol. Hes still really strong. Mine consistently 1 cycles when my acheron 3 - 5 cycles.

    • @vegitoblue6969
      @vegitoblue6969 16 дней назад +1

      ​@@cloudofclout1563your acheron 3 cycles bruh what is even your crit ratio I bet your crit rate is below 95%

  • @PixelMin
    @PixelMin 16 дней назад +3

    Firefly being a break meta unit makes it so that any enemy at present or in future that can halt toughness reduction their counter. Meaning Firefly like many other dps is not futureproof. So if someone is trying to get her for fomo sorry but she is an ez skip..... For somebody else my jades about to be 0 by the end of Firefly banner we pull till e2 s1 😤. (Fyi i paused the video after clicking on it reading the thumbnail).

    • @koko-hh2bq
      @koko-hh2bq 16 дней назад +4

      If they will add more bosses that lock weaknesses, they will also most likely add gameplay elements that will help unlock them.
      Yanqing, for instance, has this mechanic, but in order to unlock it, you can break the swords beside him which Firefly can easily do because of her weakness implant + colourless breaking.
      Even the SAM boss unlocks her toughness bar after a short period.

    • @user-eo2db5il3x
      @user-eo2db5il3x 15 дней назад

      Or they can just add 5* break support who can give the team ability to break locked enemies. Problem solved, forever, bruh.

  • @Zoeila
    @Zoeila 16 дней назад

    I'm still a DoT player ride or die. Waiting for more DoT chars

  • @Shiwayari
    @Shiwayari 16 дней назад +1

    This whole pure break playstyle really irks me. I do not like being "gated" by a bar to do more than effectively zero damage.
    Imagine a really bad matchup vs a crit dps, well maybe now you're not doing 3 cycles, but 6 cycles - chance for your other team to get you out of the pit.
    Now imagine a break resistant enemy. Firefly is gonna sit there and wait doing absolutely nothing.
    Am I going to wait for 2 cycles, 5 cycles, 20 cycles, is this every going to happen at all? Idk, but I certainly don't like the "open door" to completly disabling the entire character.
    Tbf, Acheron is almost in the same boat, if enemies are very or completely debuff resistant. But I guess she can at least get her own stacks so maybe Sparkle and/or Bronya to get her faster stacks could still make her clear a slow and painful fight.
    A counter at that level to Firefly she'd be hitting the maximum cycle count lol.
    I'm almost certainly doing at most maybe 20 pulls cause I skipped Gallagher. Hopefully Yunli isn't superbreak too, then I'm grabbing myself the next giant ass sword character instead.
    Plus Jiaoqiu for Acheron *if* he is really insane for her - don't like his design so otherwise I might skip him too.

    • @koko-hh2bq
      @koko-hh2bq 16 дней назад

      Most bosses who do lock their toughness bars have a few gameplay elements that help unlock them. For instance, with Yanqing, you can break his swords to unlock his bar. With Bronya, you can quickly kill the other elite she's boosting.
      SAM is really the only boss who starts off with a locked bar and doesn't have a gameplay element that unlocks it, but she spends such little time in the locked form that it doesn't hinder the gameplay too much.
      Elites like the Aurumaton and the Penacony gorilla do lock their weaknesses with no way to unlock either, but it's usually later in the fight and you'd most likely break them with Firefly/Boothill before they get to that point.