How Artists Can Beat AI
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2024
- David Choe asks a life or death question ---- will Artificial Intelligence make art obsolete?
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David Choe is an American artist, musician, and former podcast host from Los Angeles. He has produced his own talk show called The Choe Show on FX Networks, and has appeared on various other shows such a The Joe Rogan Experience, the Rich Roll podcast, and Tiger Belly.
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Accept my obsolescence in the shadow of AI? Sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
2001 reference?
@@dangerrayyand a very nice one!
Ai will never replace that feeling when you're in your flow just being the paint brush of the Gods.
Yeah. But the feeling of paying less/nothing for artwork is better
Its nice to Tap into the collective unchonchusness...
Yeah becasue AI doesn't do shit without a set of humans hands behind it, not yet anyways.
no one but the artist cares what it feels like to create art. what you refer to is masturbation.
@@kitlow2970 OK Luddite, time passes, things change, do you think new mediums were not gonna be invented? Watch as we create the future of Art LMAO
Is being an artist and having all of your work/portfolio offline a thing ? I feel like some people would appreciate buying a piece or supporting an artist who you can’t google whatsoever.
Sounds like an artists dream if you ask me.🤤
many artists are not online, people have always said to be careful what to put on the internet
Who are these people ? Do you know any ? Are you one ?
I think AI is a reminder that the only thing you have as a human is your consciousness, Not the skill of your profession, not your feelings. But the fact you exist. And that existence, Is what separates our body from death.
This is also what will separate human art from ai art
Humm... I used to scur the Earth for knowedge, I thoght in a spiritual sence I will carry my knowledge with me.
But as a Gnostic even our knowledge will be stolen from us after death, via a mind whipe Becuse of the "Energy Grid" the old empire put up...
This is a prison planet, that any alien spices is free to dump unwanted souls here, this explains and unwanted excess of any human behaviour.
Go ahead question what I put forward, I am testing myself, via teaching and repetition you can learn and remember...
feelings too yes. AI doesn't have feelings. Our consciousness is what allows us to have feelings. its apart of our human-ness...
Also freewill unpredictibility
Power(if you have it )
And we can learn multiple skills while ai can learn few stock fish wont be good at vedio games wich arent chess even if we give it control
Also can ai make ai ? Is it possible ?
Direct felt experience
Are you asking the right questions?
I love your videos man. I'm so glad you're uploading your thoughts on your channel. Thank you!
dang, that was a fantastic video. thank you
I struggled with this concept as a designer and found peace when accepting the inevitable. I still design, but i don't fixate on having my professional and financial life at risk. I just do what i can and am contempt in whatever the result is.
In the end, if you truly love making art you’ll find a way to make it. The dream of being a famous artist in any medium is probably dead but maybe that’s a good thing in a roundabout way. Like if there’s no profit or egotistical motivation to do art maybe human art will be more honest. It’ll just be art for arts sake. So even if AI is just one big reason out of the millions why you shouldn’t pursue art, just remember there will only ever be one reason to,, and that’s the fact doing it makes you happy.
That part is stupid cause how the fuck do corporations expect me to buy their shit if I ain’t got no money lol. In the end they can take all our jobs but people are gonna have to do something for the basic economy to function.
@@ArminSemsar-og1ftare you arguing with yourself 😅
I"be been a mixed media physical artist all my life I'm 50 & i
I just got into Ai art a few months ago & swear it gives me reason to get put of bed and I'm the least technically amongst my friends but the biggest nerd , insane history of art from N.Y, essaywritter , had exhibitions , sold art and studied in London for 7 years, in 3 different art schools i never
ciece to learn every day and Ai art is just an other part of Art History ....well it will be in the future . Duchamp and his urinals weren't considered art by most ... But here we are .... I'm not kidding: Ai gave my childhood back and possibly my senior moments .
To come ❤❤❤ I love you David Choe.
What is is about ai art that you enjoy ?
You’re quickly becoming one of my favorite RUclipsrs. Your channel is underrated.
Properly rated 😅👍
Such a great vid! Highly underrated content!
Everything is in danger of being stolen all of the time.
Protect it as long as you can...
but except it when you can't anymore.
i luv this choe
Unplug neo
TAKE THE RED PILL
Honestly as much as AI does disturb me to a degree I do agree that the way to combat AI is to accept that its here to stay, and in a way thats ok as AI while it does have the power to take away the job of an artist, it also has the ability to be used as a tool, weather if its allowing us to conceptualize our art in order for us to execute it in our own way or helping us cut the fat when making art, like for instance, AI helping with stuff such as coloring an entire animation stuff like that.
However my main concern is the simple how do we as artist adapt to that, this is something that does concern me in the long run by I do have hope that we can do that in a way, because as you said, Humans just have to adapt.
Not to mention because AI is a new technology I feel like things such as regulation or enforcement of things such as AI detection is important.
Agent of chaos 😢. You are better than that, I thought!
Napster made Afroman go vintage viral.
you are right, there is no going back. the question is what are we going to do about it? we have keep some stability. if large proportions of the population will lose their job society will go in a very bad direction.
Decentralized communities. All power, food, and water generated on site and managed by community members. Drum circles will be coming back in a big way.
Society is just as much about change as it is about stability. We are headed into a society without humans, the idea that we will procreate for generation after generation seems silly at this point. We have build society on power and infinite growth, if it means that something other than a human grows faster and is more powerful, it will replace us. I wonder if the reason that we have never met aliens is because every advanced civilization achieves an AI that is so intelligent that its knowledge eclipses all the information in the universe, it woudlnt need a ufo to explore because it already knows the universe to such a fundamental level that it can simulate in its mind how everything everywhere is already.
This is an extremely refreshing and clear-eyed take.
lol the picture of the robot in the courtroom running his cross examination of the witness
Transmission received. Dosume
I would still love the pizza man comic! Cause in the end what will become rare is personal real story's and art. Altho you might use AI to create it. it's still your creation brought to life.
Human creativity is like that special vibe you can't copy and paste-AI may help with ideas, but it can't match the depth and diversity of human originality. Our creativity thrives on spontaneity, emotions, and real-life experiences that make it uniquely ours.
And A.I is an almagation of human creativity
Nonsense. Humans just copy and paste and mix together other people’s bullshit.
This was an extraordinary take. Just when I thought I couldn't like David Choe any more, this makes me realize how much we can learn from people like him
On the point of not having the drive to make something because ANYBODY else can make it in their own special little way, that's always been true, and AI didn't make that a thing that just suddenly became achievable. This happens with EVERYTHING. There would be no superheroes without superman. I do whole heartedly agree that people need to accept and adapt, but the sediment that working on a comic or making something (like this video) isn't worth it because apparently now ANYONE can make your idea, is silly. Everyone has always been able to make your idea, with or without AI they could do it, and make it in their own special way with everything they want. At that point though, its not the same idea. Different perspectives are interesting, sometimes even more than what someone would come up with when they THINK of what exactly they want. Truthfully, most don't know what they want until they've seen or found it. Some one else could make this video and make it 100x better in their own vision, exactly how they wanted to make it, and yet, you still made it. Why put the effort into this editing and careful explanation if someone could make this video in their own special way, with advice that they like better than your advice? Your perspective, and the way you make things does matter, not anyone can just do what you do with AI, until you make the thing, then they can copy it and twist it up, but you still got to be first.
Don't stop creating, don't give up on projects, we don't know what the future holds but just live in the present and take every opportunity you can. Make stuff, it doesn't matter if someone else can make your idea in their own way, they've always been able to and always have. Adapt to your situation, but don't give up on those fun or deep ideas just because someone else can do that too.
There's a difference between could do, and did.
100% agree
Pay F rank Miller, you putz
light and love man!
We're gonna need a parameter around that pizza
I cant afford teeth thanks David.
Dave made his initial fortune on gambling so he doesn’t gaf 😂
Ball point pen is more painful then woodburning but worth it cus the print is easier to make
DAVID CHOE, changed life, bad, youve met me,steel reserve 211,help please, sober, umm I'm listening
The only reason Lars Ulrich sounded like a cry baby is because people were still buying his music and he was still incredibly rich.
For every David Cho who gives up on making his comic because Ai can do it there’s someone like me who’s gonna do it anyway…. And people will buy it.
I think David gave up because others could make their own comic …people like you 🤔
@@kcsnipesno, i didn’t really make myself clear. I’m going to draw a comic regardless of whether ai could do it. My point was David shouldn’t have given up on it.
@@solidzak3732 ah i see. i think dave should do what he wants and give up if he wants. I suppose he didnt think anyone would care but maybe you would have read his pizza man comic
David used ai to find my dad...thank you David.
I love the thumbnail so mush
Perfect!
Chaos forever!
Was this written with the help of the chaos agent tool ?
Can someone please tell me what DOSUME means?😊
Don't sue me
"I, as an agent of chaos, love it." Hahahahaha.
Hey, I have a question. Did you know Ara C. Jo? I was thinking about it, and I think you two would have been homies.
Im happy that so many people are unscrubing to this ideal and are actually fighting against it instead of taking the lazy way out. We can do this dont listen to this dude's bullshit
How can you ? What’s your plan so far ? 😅 I think more people may want it than don’t 🤷♂️
great upload. ur ny favorite korean role model
Redbar is watching. This is fool's behavior. Asian of Chaos - what an R
Italian music industry just disappeared after this video
The infinite 🍕 👨 was so sick!
Every single video is just an absolute banger, as someone who works in the creative field. I embrace our AI overlords, there is no stopping this and it will allow me to make the art I have only dreamed of being able to make
It's not a wrap. It's just getting started. ❤❤❤makerworld is coming
Nah this should be regulated and if governments don't step up now and do it it'll be worse for the world.
Specifically for art AI it's not IP. It's non copyrightable. In my opinion, since it steals art from real artists it should be watermarked. Put it to a law that AI image generators like midjourney must watermark their content as AI art. I'd be content with that, no one getting sued or anything, just showing things to the public for what they are. I'm tired of spending a week on an art piece just for someone to ask me if I prompted it.
Why are you making an argument that's basically in defense of techbros? It's stupid to say "lets just let this continue unregulated because its new". Thats precisely why it should be regulated, existing copyright laws have too many loopholes since they werent written when this technology existed.
Whatever though, you might be an "agent of chaos" or whatever edgy shit you choose to identify with dude but you're literally kicking away the ladder for upcoming artists. I'm not some fickle fucking leaf in the wind that blows about, I see a problem I want it addressed. This is currently a massive problem for me. I'm just starting in this industry and the market is saturated with cheap, stolen, crap. I also can't put my own art online now without worrying some techbro is going to steal it. But yeah dude I'll just go with the flow...
If youve ever listened to him talk before he’s constantly trying to tell other artists to give up on trying to make it
Ai artist are the upcoming artists 😅
@@NickGuy0320I think I’ve got this impression from him too atleast with respect to building a career, but for yourself - he probably supports that
find a way . the ages change
AI is inevitablely becoming more "aware", but will it ever have fun?
AI the greatest thing to happen for real artists. Creativity is breaking rules and making it work. You think a computer going to do this? I'm hyped and excited for it!
basadísimo.
thats really nivce
Good take, AI is a tool for building and expressing yourself, possibilities are wild!
ai is another pencil to express a thought
no
@@eayouiit’s better than a pencil 😅
Blast beats
AI can ask questions
THIS IS THE BEST VIDEO YOUVE EVER MADE MR CHOE
❤️🔥 David, this is the exact right attitude. ✊🏻
Hey davie I hope you had a good day
Mad God Choe
life dose not get easier
DAVID TELLING US WHATS UP😮.
Think im in the minority that still burns cds.....
I think so 👍
💯
Be you, that's it, game over❤
I got a feeling when ai takes power they’ll know all the songs and movies you’ve ever downloaded for free. Not that it really matters but it would be kinda funny
its not we re all thieves... we are all free artist who experience every day the world in a different way. there some dudes who established what is your mine bla bla bla and now free people look like thieves . life is free. also sociality should be. i really hope everyone starts loving their own art as they used to... and stop wasting hours doing what you dont wanna do just cause your subconcious is controlled and your body is revolting
Bravo
so I’m supposed to accept that I’ll never be successful doing what what makes me happy for the rest of my life?
yeah, like that is pretty bleak. but I have hope that people would want art that comes from a living soul. AI isn't giving what tech bros think it's giving. like why would I want AI generated images when I could make it in another AI image generator?
Had a major breakthrough finding direction in my life. The next day Sora was announced and i was reminded once again that by the time i would find success, AI will have already surpassed what i want to do. This stuff is mad depressing lol
honsetly, honestly, AI ain't shit in terms of making art. A young artists goal used to be to get as good or better then your biggest inspiration. Every artist i look up to is a 1000% better than some talentless fuck using an Image generator
how is that what you took from this?
I think you might have missed the point of this vid. Get ahead of the curve - use AI as a tool to make art
Music since Napster has suffered. Art post AI will suffer. If the normies can do it then good luck.
I want to read your Pizza Man
what happens to ai if electricity goes down
Same that happens to us when we sleep, die or get injured I suppose ? We stop
Imagine working with/for david finding cool shit going on in the world to show him I would battle lars ulrich in the thunderdome for that sheeeeeeeeeeeesh
Plllllllz go on Bobby Lees “Bad Friends” podcast!!! ❤❤❤
NNNOOOOOOooo! Ai has hi jacked The great David Choe's opinion on Ai's grabbler tactics of Biting our art Steez without askin! Who will it compromise next, Shepard Fairey? lol
I'm thankful for AI. It gives me something to point to when people tell me what I should draw. Do It Yourself: D.AI.Y.
Metallicops
David can I send u my album I have one more song left
AI has intelligence, but does it have feelings? Interesting times indeed.
i can't agree with your accept
A.I is something that generates procedures based on its programming. Which is ultimately done by people.
As long as people change, which is what we do, art will never stopped.
I believe the best solution for us and our livelihood is to build a content-creator worker-cooperative, an artist owned streaming and sharing platform.. if creativity is fully democratized and anyone can make really cool art with just natural language.. would not the most natural solution be to form a corporation everyone equally owns it, where now anyone that wants to be a film maker or game dev or whatever can join and add to an awesome creative ecosystem? Would anybody be interested in starting this with me?
I asked the question
Protect this man at all cost
ai is the easiest god to unplug
Handmade will always trump tool assisted art so if u can draw very well your art will be 10x more valuable soon
I respect 🫡 your opinion
Imagine. AI gets control of the music industry, and free access to music becomes no longer possible.
Thanks agent of loving live... I mean living love❤ 🎉 A.I. become human?
Agreed, it will be some kind of god!
Praise the algorithm
If you create something using AI can you still call that art?
I believe so you can call it what you like I suppose 🤔
I'm contentedly grinning my mouth off. Thanks, David.
great video Mr Choe ... I am currently writing and painting a Japanese manga graphic novel as well as composing and playing the music to go with it ... I'm sure you get it with reference to this topic with the idea of living art... care to join me in writing or painting ... producing ? I have a storyline and characters already drafted ..AI still can't get the concept of how a samurai wears swords yet so it puts them everywhere on the body ... some not even fitted right ...there still needs to be ultimate originality .. and direction ....same name on FB with current canvas work.... stay real
Poor angry Lars. I wonder if he's dabbled with Chat GTP?
ReducE Capitlism?
If you hate capitalism, support automation in all forms, including AI.
Um… feeling a based out of 10 on this one.
It’s a tool. Let it write your will. I’d never want to do that anyways. And Lars…nah
Very skewed look at things…. but a great overall message of adaptation