@@kolins.4356 Absolutely bro, plus its likely that normal people carrie inactive x genes, so if Logan had loads of kids then they may develop new powers based on what they inherited.
That's the story that I have in my head as an alternative to the movie Logan. In a world where no new mutants are being born, Logan's children have become their own species, the Wolverines, each possessing the feral powers and near-immortality of their father as well as other unique gifts. They are being hunted down either for sport as the ultimate predators or by corporations who want to use them as weapons. When they discover Laura, a young clone of their father, she becomes their new sister as they help her and other escaped young mutants find their way to freedom. But this does not come easy for the Wolverines as though the siblings have been forced to band together, a century of old grudges and their predatory natures put them at odds with each other
@@baobobaThere are a few alternate telling of how X-23 came about now. So the answers may vary. With the comics X-23 I thought Sarah Kinney was just used to incubate the clone? That the chromosomes where the only changed DNA from Logan. If they were not then why do people keep calling X-23 the female clone of Wolverine?
Unlike reality that's the one issue of being an abscentee father no one's ever mentioned. I can remember a friend getting a back child support check when he was like 30! I guess being the bnest at what he does is not supporting his many children. Shame on you Mr. Howlett No wonder he went by "Logan" only for so long. LOL!!!
In early days some people thought that Creed was his father. In the movies canon they made him his brother. In the comic canon there is a brother name Dog. They just switch the roles around.
I am obsessed with superhero/villan origin stories. It is so exciting to know how they become. I stumbled upon your Mystique family tree, and was an instant fan. Please, please do many more.
Laura was recently revealed to be his actual child and not a clone, Raze was running around 616 for a while. As is Jimmy Jr from ultimate. And Gabrielle aka Honey Badger is the baby even though she's a clone of Laura, she counts as Logan's daughter
Fun fact: X-23 was originally from the X-men evolution animated series but she was so popular among fans Marvel made her an official comic book character
I really like Jimmy Hudson I think as a wolverine child he has the most character development and you really feel for him once you read the books that he's associated with was really happy when they introduced him to the main series and had him meet x-23,old man logan and even Dokken also the fact he join X-Men blue team was great to me
I love him, he's my second favourite Wolverine (after Logan of course). He immediately became my favourite character in the Ultimate X-Men comics, and I rather like that they brought him into 616 continuity.
Logan's brother could have had a healing factor. I'm sure that he did. My guess is that he was drowned, which has been stated to be one of the rare ways to kill Wolverine.
Gabby Kinney is the clone of his daughter Laura. On Krakoa (in Hickman's HOX/POX run) Gabby/Honey Badger goes by Scout now. And she still considers Laura a big sister.
You missed one child that Wolverine had. Her name is Reine du Rien. She is a French sorceress that is part of an old sorcery clan in France on her mother's side of the family and a mutant just like her father, who inherited her father's healing factor and bone claws that emit a bluish white glow.
So the common denominator for John Howlett Jr. and James Howlett having the same mutant abilities was not from their two different fathers, but the X-Gene was from their mother.
Have you considered Romulus might be a distant relative of Logan? Lets consider this. Bone claws genetic trait from his mothers side. Razor nails From Logans fathers side. Same feral instinct. it does seem to mesh together a bit.
i would add in old man Logan and gabby (clone of x-23) and James Hudson from the ultamates since they are all in the main 616 universe and apart of the family
He also said the wolverine comics has been around for over 50 years, the first appearance wolverine was in the incredible hulk in November 1974 then he was in the x-men for awhile but he didn't get his own series until the 1980's.
X-23 and Jimmy Hudson on my two favorites I don't really like the mystiqueI never did like mystique son with Logan and I want not mind seeing storm Logan's daughter make it into the main franchise I think it'd be interesting to see her and a616 universe
Laura Kinney aka X-23 had some clones of her own like Gabby and Bellona from the sister but people seem to forget the Symbiote Warriors who magically infused each with a symbiote. We also recently learned of the Vampire clone of Wolverine who is destined to be a vampire/mutant messiah... And no one every mentions Amiko Koboyashi, Mariko and Logan's adoptive daughter, who we don't even see during his death or return. Really wish they would dedicate a series to Wolverine family...
@Mr420Spy , no, John Jr. would come back as White Ghost in WOLVERINE: THE END, and appeared in visions Wolverine went to Hell in the mainstream 616 universe.
@@imanrosohadi2125 nope wrong. The comic book clone logic is just messed up and straight up false. Clones are not birthed naturally but raised in the lab. Laura was born from natural birth, and has recently revealed to carry dna from Sarah Kinney, her mother. Which was always obvious Becoz in the comics Laura looks just like Sarah and nothing like Logan. Gabby on the other hand didn't had a mother, and was raised in a container in the lab. So by using that Rule, Laura is the daughter of Logan and Gabby is her sister. Making Gabby the Youngest kid of Logan.
Logans brother John didn't die. He was sent to an asylum, were he then would be recruited by weapon X. He would then later escape and become a rich man and later meet Logan again when they would both be old men
5:55 the names of the people in the "The Mongrels/Red Right Hand" super original lol "Saw Fist" "Fire Knife" lol just a tad more thought next time, like just a spec more effort in naming? Lol, also is it "The Mongrels" OR "The Red Right Hand" ???
Crazy plot idea, An alternate wolverine gets sent back in time that didn’t have adimantium bones so he’s practically immortal and gets stuck. Turns out he fathered all the mutants, including himself because it turns out he’s the grandfather that helped him lol
As James Howlett: Logan only had one brother in his life. "Victor Creed." There is no mention of a younger brother. no mention of a "Dog Logan." And the father of Logan? His last name is only mentioned as: "Creed." (Is there something we don't know? [According to this video: X-Men origins "wolverine" has rewritten Logan's entire history.] Apparently there's a lot we don't know.)
Just to count every Son and Daughter: Laura, Daken, Jimmy Hudson, Saberclaw, Raze(son of Wolverine and Mystique), wild thing(daughter of Wolverine and Elektra), Honey Badger, Rein de Reina, and the Mongrels.
I think that is what killed the x-men films, they only focused on wolverine, professor x, magneto, mystique and sometimes Jean instead of giving more characters actual development, it just felt like they were there for when the main cast needed some people to do a fight scene
I'll admit that I have a few problems with the X-men films like how they killed off Cyclops in the 3rd movie, not giving Rogue her superstrength and flying abilities, leaving Gambit out of the movies, and not letting Storm have a more commanding presence.
Hmm, aside from Laura as known kids of Logan it includes 2 iconic foster clawed heroes in Kitty Pride dawning his single adamantium blade and the vampire Jubilee
Im assuming John Jr and James were both Tomas'. John Jr probably died for retaliation for hurting Elizabeth or was seen as a freak for his claws (Im guessing maybe Elizabeth because he was a mutant or to hide the fact he isnt John Sr's, likely would have done the same to James if he didnt run away). Id assume his powers like healing, strength and what not were not fully developed due to his young age and was easier to kill.
Laura isnt really a clone. Her mom used logans dna but she used her egg to create laura. She carried laura to term. Thats as basic to child birth as you can get.
nah I think is wolverine's healing factor in Kik into he's like it is dirty so apparently they killed that kid before a kicked-in otherwise of his healing factor would have been around then you know he would have survived it
the comics just introduces a new kid of his a girl named Rien she is pretty neat and he full on claimed her and all it seems he likes his kids more if there girls
Logan can single handedly repopulate the mutants in an extinction level event.
B_A_Z_E_D V.2.0 yeah, but would his descendants mainly have abilities similar to his like claws and healing
@@kolins.4356 Good question. My first thought was yes but then I realized its comics and it's up in the air.
B_A_Z_E_D V.2.0 That’s so true, one of his descendants could probably manipulate reality or some omega level shit
@@kolins.4356 Absolutely bro, plus its likely that normal people carrie inactive x genes, so if Logan had loads of kids then they may develop new powers based on what they inherited.
That's the story that I have in my head as an alternative to the movie Logan. In a world where no new mutants are being born, Logan's children have become their own species, the Wolverines, each possessing the feral powers and near-immortality of their father as well as other unique gifts. They are being hunted down either for sport as the ultimate predators or by corporations who want to use them as weapons. When they discover Laura, a young clone of their father, she becomes their new sister as they help her and other escaped young mutants find their way to freedom. But this does not come easy for the Wolverines as though the siblings have been forced to band together, a century of old grudges and their predatory natures put them at odds with each other
Logan has gone out to get a lot of cigarettes over the years.
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Out of all , Laura is the best child for Logan.
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@MG16NCP I agree. A clone relationship is closer to that of twins.
He killed a lot of his kids.
@@baobobaThere are a few alternate telling of how X-23 came about now. So the answers may vary. With the comics X-23 I thought Sarah Kinney was just used to incubate the clone? That the chromosomes where the only changed DNA from Logan. If they were not then why do people keep calling X-23 the female clone of Wolverine?
Ok so Bucky just killing everyone parents eh🤦🏾♂️
What
ye lol
Remember when Logan adopted an inbreeded baby Hulk
altertimeline
What happened to that baby?
Erikku I remember that
Old man logan
After he killed hulk and the rest of his incest hillbilly family
Wolverines most feared enemy
Child support
My dad has the same problem
He has 8 kids
I was going to say a condom
Unlike reality that's the one issue of being an abscentee father no one's ever mentioned. I can remember a friend getting a back child support check when he was like 30! I guess being the bnest at what he does is not supporting his many children. Shame on you Mr. Howlett No wonder he went by "Logan" only for so long. LOL!!!
@@attaist why wear a condom when u can't catch any disease! 😆!
why do i remember Sabertooth being related to Wolverine?
The movie twisted that
Cuz they are
@@MrMcgale22 I thought victor creed was Sabertooth damn my bad I guess I have to fresh up on him could've sworn they were
@@MrMcgale22 Graydon Creed is Sabertooth (Victor Creed) and Mystique's son.
In early days some people thought that Creed was his father. In the movies canon they made him his brother. In the comic canon there is a brother name Dog. They just switch the roles around.
I am obsessed with superhero/villan origin stories. It is so exciting to know how they become. I stumbled upon your Mystique family tree, and was an instant fan. Please, please do many more.
What about Laura's clone Gabby/Honey Badger? Or the other clones of X-23?
They're part of the Wolverine Family Tree.
That would make her his granddaughter
Mitchell Bewick HE HAS 32 KIDS
@@sixxdice586 Does that mean Laura doesn't count?
Damn it hit the wrong button
Good point. Still part of his tree
Laura was recently revealed to be his actual child and not a clone, Raze was running around 616 for a while. As is Jimmy Jr from ultimate. And Gabrielle aka Honey Badger is the baby even though she's a clone of Laura, she counts as Logan's daughter
Fun fact: X-23 was originally from the X-men evolution animated series but she was so popular among fans Marvel made her an official comic book character
I really like Jimmy Hudson I think as a wolverine child he has the most character development and you really feel for him once you read the books that he's associated with was really happy when they introduced him to the main series and had him meet x-23,old man logan and even Dokken also the fact he join X-Men blue team was great to me
I love him, he's my second favourite Wolverine (after Logan of course). He immediately became my favourite character in the Ultimate X-Men comics, and I rather like that they brought him into 616 continuity.
Wow wasn't sure which direction the channel was gonna go after GoT but absolutely love what you're doing.
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@@westmcgee9320 lol thank you
Oh so his boneclaws came from his mother and his healing factors from his father who I doubt has stronger hf since he died
Yes but did he really die?
Did the mother cheap twice with the Elder Logan
Fireborn Blu was the mother a mutant?
@@thebonecollections4478 No, the mom just had the X gene. That's why John had bone claws, but could still be killed.
John Howlett Jr. does show up eventually in a story of Wolverine. He was the first person to mention Daken.
Wolverine: The End is non-canon
@@jamessatterlee Koen wasn't canon but he was mentioned. He even mentioned alternate universe children of Logan.
Daken, Jimmy Hudson, X23, and honey badger. I think it would be cool to see all three in a story line together. Just a thought
Logan's brother could have had a healing factor. I'm sure that he did. My guess is that he was drowned, which has been stated to be one of the rare ways to kill Wolverine.
he killed his kids cuz the villain wanted him to feel bad
Raze is alive in the main universe. He’s just a baby though
Don’t forget honey badger, the clone of X-23. So the clone of his clone hahah
Adamantium Agenda proved that Laura is Logan's daughter and not a clone. Something that's been hinted at for a long time
Laura is actually his real daughter (not just a clone)
@@dirtandsilkk when did that happen?
@@jbabylucus1641 in Adamantium Agenda. Put of the return of Wolverine
Gabby Kinney is the clone of his daughter Laura.
On Krakoa (in Hickman's HOX/POX run) Gabby/Honey Badger goes by Scout now. And she still considers Laura a big sister.
You missed one child that Wolverine had. Her name is Reine du Rien.
She is a French sorceress that is part of an old sorcery clan in France on her mother's side of the family and a mutant just like her father, who inherited her father's healing factor and bone claws that emit a bluish white glow.
I like these family trees, u should do more of these.
Could Romulus be wolverine's brother that the family tried to "kill?"
Clayton Sumpter IIRC, it has been hinted that this is the very Romulus that founded Rome, and that he is actually an ancestor of Wolverine.
Robert Schmid, Jr. with all the gladiator fights that happened back then, i wouldn’t be suprised if he came up with the idea lmao
You forgot Sabretooth, he's Wolverine's half brother
Logan was before that. He was alive and fought in the Civil War
Only in the movies. Not the comics.
The video preview on Wolverine's family tree is so totally awesome and very downright fascinating.
So the common denominator for John Howlett Jr. and James Howlett having the same mutant abilities was not from their two different fathers, but the X-Gene was from their mother.
No. John Jr. was also the illegitimate son of groundskeeper Thomas Logan. Elizabeth was a very bad wife.
Yo love your family trees content make more please thank you
Bro keep up the good work . Love the comic book content . If u could do a Batman vid that would be fantastic.
Whycreate making a non-GoT video:
Me: Wait, that's illegal
(appears as blue hologram) I will *make* it legal. 🙂
Oh wow I love your X-Men content!!
your voice is so soothing, I feel like I could fall asleep to it.
Have you considered Romulus might be a distant relative of Logan? Lets consider this. Bone claws genetic trait from his mothers side. Razor nails From Logans fathers side. Same feral instinct. it does seem to mesh together a bit.
i would add in old man Logan and gabby (clone of x-23) and James Hudson from the ultamates since they are all in the main 616 universe and apart of the family
Was born in 1880's but you said 1980's Your welcome
He also said the wolverine comics has been around for over 50 years, the first appearance wolverine was in the incredible hulk in November 1974 then he was in the x-men for awhile but he didn't get his own series until the 1980's.
Alpha Omega
*You're...not your.
You're welcome.
In 1 comic I got years ago
It said mid 17 hundreds.
@@trufantom21 You... Not you.. Thank u
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Me...not you....my pleasure.
Don't forget Diamond patch the son of wolverine and Emma frost
Keep talking about X-Men. Cuz house and Powers of X just came out and they were amazing.
Who's Laura Kinney's artist on the thumnail?
Idk just look devianart if you want to do that kinda thing
X-23 and Jimmy Hudson on my two favorites I don't really like the mystiqueI never did like mystique son with Logan and I want not mind seeing storm Logan's daughter make it into the main franchise I think it'd be interesting to see her and a616 universe
WOLVERINE SMASHED MYSTIQUE?
Joe....your grammar is atrocious.
You need to up your game.
Raze and daken are my favorite of Logan's kids.
Yeah, too bad we never got any of them in movies.. I hope we'll get Daken in MCU's X-Men ;3
You missed one from the alternate timeline group. Her name is kate howlett. From the renew your vows universe.
Laura Kinney aka X-23 had some clones of her own like Gabby and Bellona from the sister but people seem to forget the Symbiote Warriors who magically infused each with a symbiote. We also recently learned of the Vampire clone of Wolverine who is destined to be a vampire/mutant messiah... And no one every mentions Amiko Koboyashi, Mariko and Logan's adoptive daughter, who we don't even see during his death or return. Really wish they would dedicate a series to Wolverine family...
Where is Romulus? I think he said he is Logan's great great 8 times over grandfather.
Ehhhhh....given is habit of messing with Wolverine's head I'm not sure how much we should believe that.
Romulus healing factor is at a higher level.
@Mr420Spy , no, John Jr. would come back as White Ghost in WOLVERINE: THE END, and appeared in visions Wolverine went to Hell in the mainstream 616 universe.
Romulus is a freakin beast
Really surprised that the kid from the Savage Land has not come into play
Would Gabby count? I mean, she is X-23's clone and Laura is Logan's clone.
*daughter
I think gabby is practically laura's daughter since she was clone straight from her, if we applied the same rule between logan and laura
@@imanrosohadi2125 why would you apply that rule lara isn't a clone she has Sara dna as well
Gibbs is the cute and better prepared Wolverine. She got Deadpool as a role model and teacher
@@imanrosohadi2125 nope wrong. The comic book clone logic is just messed up and straight up false. Clones are not birthed naturally but raised in the lab. Laura was born from natural birth, and has recently revealed to carry dna from Sarah Kinney, her mother. Which was always obvious Becoz in the comics Laura looks just like Sarah and nothing like Logan. Gabby on the other hand didn't had a mother, and was raised in a container in the lab. So by using that Rule, Laura is the daughter of Logan and Gabby is her sister. Making Gabby the Youngest kid of Logan.
Alright my man you got my sub simply because your doing what you want.
Seriously...
Logans brother John didn't die. He was sent to an asylum, were he then would be recruited by weapon X. He would then later escape and become a rich man and later meet Logan again when they would both be old men
Honestly a very informative video, as a longtime xmen fan I learnt a lot, but you missed out on honey badger ;)
Thanks for the video
5:55 the names of the people in the "The Mongrels/Red Right Hand" super original lol "Saw Fist" "Fire Knife" lol just a tad more thought next time, like just a spec more effort in naming? Lol, also is it "The Mongrels" OR "The Red Right Hand" ???
It was both. The red right hand hired the mongrels. And names aren't important when the characters would be dead before story's end
Does anyone know where I can read about Kendall Logan? I never knew Storm and Logan had a kid.
What If? Vol. 2, #114
Tommy Oliver thanks!
What about Raze, Lady Deathstrike and Sabertooth? why I don't see them here?
I actually really like the Wolverine Origins movie
You're not alone.
Jason Garcia same
i didnt love it, but it was at least very entertaining. Unlike BVS of Man of Steel.
Crazy plot idea, An alternate wolverine gets sent back in time that didn’t have adimantium bones so he’s practically immortal and gets stuck. Turns out he fathered all the mutants, including himself because it turns out he’s the grandfather that helped him lol
Who did the art at 03:30 ?
Thank you! This was really interesting!
How much is your butter worth baby?
He gives Goku a run for worst super hero father.
Dang, wolverine. I didn't know you were a player. Thanksgiving must be really awkward.
I've never been this early to a video before
Lol this was a surprise, and I like it
Wolverine is like Batman who leaves his genetic material throughout the multiverse with the difference that he does it in the traditional way
Is it possible that talogan direct descendants from laura or talogan may have come from daken?
You forgot to mention the Ultimate Universe where Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were Logan's kids too
lol
This is true. He had an affair with Magneto's wife
Damn dude gets around spreading his seed like a dandelion in the wind
*Grabs popcorn*
You said 1980 not 1880 just to let you know. But yea I enjoy your channel keep it up bro.
Oh gosh. A mixture between Mystique and Wolverine, that's going to be one interesting child.
can you do a game of thrones video about the full history of the book and shows? and how do you get all of this information for your videos?
He gets his info from the main books and from the 2 side books the world of ice and fire and fire and blood
DAMN LOGAN 17 kids
You included X-23 but not deadpool?
As James Howlett: Logan only had one brother in his life.
"Victor Creed." There is no mention of a younger brother. no mention of a "Dog Logan." And the father of
Logan? His last name is only mentioned as: "Creed."
(Is there something we don't know?
[According to this video: X-Men origins "wolverine" has rewritten Logan's entire history.] Apparently there's a lot we don't know.)
Just to count every Son and Daughter: Laura, Daken, Jimmy Hudson, Saberclaw, Raze(son of Wolverine and Mystique), wild thing(daughter of Wolverine and Elektra), Honey Badger, Rein de Reina, and the Mongrels.
He also adopted amiko
GotDamn! Wolverine doesn't play when it comes to spreading his seed! He really follows the concept of be fruitful and multiply lol.
I may be the only person that doesn’t hate Wolverine Origins
I don’t hate it
I don't, either. I would've made a few minor changes, though. 🙂
I really liked Sabertooth in Origins
I liked it a lot.
I think that is what killed the x-men films, they only focused on wolverine, professor x, magneto, mystique and sometimes Jean instead of giving more characters actual development, it just felt like they were there for when the main cast needed some people to do a fight scene
I'll admit that I have a few problems with the X-men films like how they killed off Cyclops in the 3rd movie, not giving Rogue her superstrength and flying abilities, leaving Gambit out of the movies, and not letting Storm have a more commanding presence.
I feel like im watching a very gruesome crime documentary because of the way you narrate it.
It's hard for me to believe that he didn't know those kids where not his. His senses would have told him they were his.
Hmm, aside from Laura as known kids of Logan it includes 2 iconic foster clawed heroes in Kitty Pride dawning his single adamantium blade and the vampire Jubilee
And some people think that Scarlet witch might be his daughter
ball guy no her father is magneto
RJ Gonzales.....your grammar is atrocious.
You need to up your game.
That in ultimate comics series
So was John Jr also Thomas Logan's son? Was she having an affair before James?
Good question
No. The X-Gene comes from his motherside of the family
Im assuming John Jr and James were both Tomas'. John Jr probably died for retaliation for hurting Elizabeth or was seen as a freak for his claws (Im guessing maybe Elizabeth because he was a mutant or to hide the fact he isnt John Sr's, likely would have done the same to James if he didnt run away). Id assume his powers like healing, strength and what not were not fully developed due to his young age and was easier to kill.
@@pwlpc, no. John Jr. was also the illegitimate son of groundskeeper Thomas Logan. Elizabeth was a very bad wife.
@@Epic_Amir_Hamza wolverine is the one who caused John jr.'s death much later
Wasn't Laura kind of hinted to be not a clone by Jean Grey in X-Men Red before being interrupted by an attack, I think?
thanks
I enjoy Family Tree gossip.
I love Logan he is a beast and hands down a true bad ass
What about John howlet junior is he Thomas Logan’s son or what how did he get bone claws
The character's first appearance was in late 1974 and he didn't get his own series until the 1980's. He has not been around for over 50 years!!
X-23 has been retconned. She is his daughter, after all, not a clone. (+)
Not really a retcon. Since her first showed up in Uncanny, it was hinted that she was his daughter
Laura isnt really a clone. Her mom used logans dna but she used her egg to create laura. She carried laura to term. Thats as basic to child birth as you can get.
Not to be that person but you miss Ríen she’s canon and still alive, she’s the daughter of a witch and has glowing magical bone claws
nah I think is wolverine's healing factor in Kik into he's like it is dirty so apparently they killed that kid before a kicked-in otherwise of his healing factor would have been around then you know he would have survived it
the comics just introduces a new kid of his a girl named Rien she is pretty neat and he full on claimed her and all it seems he likes his kids more if there girls
probaly because daughters are less troublemaking than sons lol
Well any tough male figure along with a adorable daughter figure goes well in comics and even shows.
That's not true at all. He loves his sons or more in point son Daken more than anything. Definitely more than his Clone not actually daughter X-23.
No mention of Akiko/Amiko his adopted daughter?
Bro Please make a video on Deadpool family tree
You forgot all the emotional children
So bishop didn’t exist? Isn’t he storm and wolverine kid? @whycreate
Sauce for the laura kinney pic in the thumbnail?
Don't know if you realize you said 1980s 26 seconds in not 1880s
This family tree left out X-23's clone Gabrielle "Gabby" Kinney aka Honey Badger, and Logan's witch daughter La Reine Du Rien D’Arqueness aka Rien
"Poppa was a rolling stone..."