Popped 3 spokes in the first 6 months on my Marlin. Trek dealer warrantied them, no issue, but I did end up getting aftermarket wheels that never popped a spoke after that.
I had a similar noise on a previous bike and it turned out the stock chain was wrong so every few rotations is a specific gear the chain slips over a sprocket and makes the clanging sound, also hear it when changing down under tension
Loving my Roscoe 7. I’ve had it for 3 weeks and ride it 3-4 times a week. I did upgrade my pedals. I also upgraded my handle bar to PNW Gen 3 35mm along with my stem and went from a 50mm to a 45mm. I think my next upgrade will be the brakes to Shimano 6120’s. Keep the videos coming.
Great stuff man. My only complaint with mine is I should've bought a M instead of the M/L but I only felt that way after riding my wife's M Ripmo. Like you pedals and grips got upgraded but I feel like thats just going to happen on just about any bike. We did the same when the Ripmo arrived out of the box. LOL
@@matjj676 I am roughly the same and I bought the M/L I wish I would've bought the M after riding this one a whole bunch and then jumping on Gigi's M Ripmo.
I’ll second going down to a M! I’m the same, and l have to slam the seat post or else the dropper is too high for me (and I’m not getting any taller). If I had to do it again I’d go for the M.
I bought a ML R6 last year, this year I’m lucky enough to be able to upgrade to an R7. I’m going to be going with an M. I’m similar measurements as you.
my roscoe 7 2019 model use to do the same noise they built the whole back wheel again and it seems to be fine buying a $1800 bike it is a bit annoying but at least they fixed the problem
I hope yours is fixed as well i might add thing one does not expect these things to happen when buying a $1800 MTB but it is nice to see a bike shop going the extra mile to fix the problem i guess things happen and to get such great service so quick once i told them what was going on, at the time i was so annoyed in buying a $1800 MTB i was considering not buying another trek ever but there service was awesome so who knows what i will bye next i am looking at a Procaliber 9.6 not to sure yet but if i do bye another MTB it has to be a upgrade from my 2019 roscoe 7
I think I know what the clanking noise is. The chain might be slightly buckled and when the chain goes over certain clogs on the cassette it will slip and make that exact sound. Basically take the chain off and bend it over your hand like it’s going through the sprockets and you’ll find a part of the chain where the links are buckled.
let me know if it was that. Used to happen on my old bike. It made the exact same sound. It was the chain which was slightly stiff/buckled and when it was turning on the drive chain it would slip off with a lift and then push back in with a clank noise. @@graysonmtb
Congrats on the 7! I picked one up as well but have swapped out nearly everything -- except the dropper. Just about every dropper will have a slight wiggle. Keep us posted on the pinging sound from the drivetrain. The Shimano Deore 12spd is a fantastic drivetrain!
Thanks brother. It was such a weird feeling when I went on a ride and the dropper started to move as I peddled. I love the bike so far and it’s such a world of a difference from what I’ve come from. I’ll be taking it in for the first tune up and I’ll post an update of what it comes down to. Thank you!
@@graysonmtb I don't know if it's a common problem with droppers, but we put a PNW Rainier dropper on my son's Rockhopper. Exact same problem with the twisting play. Thanks for the list! I'm looking at this bike as well. Coming from a 1986 Univega mountain with a ridged fork and center pull rim brakes, I'm sure any new decent mountain bike will be a major upgrade, but can only afford one good bike, so trying to get a Jack of All Trades. Have you ridden it much on pavement? I have a 3 mile, 50/50 road/trail commute that will be a majority of my riding and wondered if the fat tires will drag a lot. Also, how well does it climb? Thanks!
Hey Robert! Yes we cruise around the neighborhood almost every day with some pretty awesome inclines. It climbs well especially with the super low gear! The fork lockout does a good job keeping energy transfer where it’s needed. I’d probably look more into an cross country (XC) bike in your specific use case. The TREK Marlin series might be a better choice but I’d still suggest you go visit your local bike shop and test ride 😀
@@graysonmtb Thank you! Yes, I was all set to get a XC bike (Marlin 7) then some people said to look at the Roscoe as well. I found a shop in my area that has an X-Caliber and Roscoe I can test ride, but thinking of trying to rent something for a whole day first to get familiar with the feel of the different frame/weight combos. I do ride a bit of trails as well when my son is home form college.
Renting is definitely the way to go! Definitely let me know what you eventually choose! I was torn between Marlin and a Roscoe as well until I talked to my guys at Trek and my use case. Either way let me know what bike you end up getting!
the chain noise is the same as my roscoe 6,i put it down to the single sprocket on the front ,the chain travel from top gear to botton gear pulls the chain off the front sprocket at an angle,example in the middle gear the noise is reduced
The noise you’re hearing might’ve been from your cassette, check if it’s tightened or lined up. I had that similar noise with my trek as well, especially on the harder gear (smaller cog)
love the video mate, its worth noting that some aspects of your review on the bike are not very relevant to the bike itself (some pros and cons). Things like good breaks or compontents acting unwise. As for the cable rubbing on the lowest gear, the pinch bolt that holds it in is meant to have the cable wrap in a U shape with a cutout but over time the cable can slip out and thats what seems to have happened, its pretty universal for derailleurs to have that system. The dropper will always have play. As for the noise its hard to tell from two short clips so I dont know. Anyway if you want one cheap upgrade to make your bike feel even better, throw an XT shifter on your Deore drivetrain, XT and XTR shifters are different mechanically from Deore and SLX and have a crisper click, reduced shifting delay and allow you to shift 4 down and 2 up which is nice.
Thank you and I appreciate your advice, I’m trying to improve my talking points and planning with every video I put out. I had no idea the XT and txt shifters would be that large of an upgrade. It sounds like something I would want to change because I do feel like the shifting is kinda mushy and rubbish. Thank you Rex!
@@graysonmtb No problem mate, I think you should be able to find an XT shifter for a decent price and the process of swapping them is fairly easy and good practice for indexing gears, anyway if you want to try record that funky sound a bit better im sure myself or one of your other fans could tell what it is.
@rex9003 Brother! I just finished some upgrades and i took your advice with the XT shifter. It's a massive improvement over the stock Deore! I'm going to give you a shout-out in the 1-year update video that i'm currently working on. Thank you!
Debating on one of these a 7 vs an 8. I figure for only $250 more for the 8, it's a much better deal. But that's just me. And quick tip for you...always start out with the good then do the bad, not the other way around. You'll lose visitors/subscribers if you always start out a video with a negative slant as opposed to a positive one.
If I had the money I’d go with the 8 over the 7. Just the price difference makes up for the better rear hub and the fork. And a huge THANK TOU for the insight/tip! I will absolutely take that feedback and implement!
Pretty much agree with everything. I will say that I do not like the tires. I ride more technical trails rather than flow trails and the traction wasn’t great in my opinion. Constantly felt like I was losing traction on certain rough parts. Overall I’m happy with it.
@@graysonmtb maxxis minion dhf on front and rear. felt like night and day once I switched over. Granted I am still definitely a beginner so im not some expert but I felt way more stable and confident on the maxxis tires.
I have same issues with the seat post! About the noise on the drive train that could be loose cassette or something to be titen on the hub, I also have the same thing! I have a review on my 2023 rascoe 7 as well!
@@graysonmtb yes, because this kind that comes with Roscoe 7 is super cheap. I have a Syncros Duncan 2.0 dropper post that came on my 2022 Scott Genius 920 still like brand new and no play whatsoever after almost 2 years of bashing, mud and crashes! And still no signs of it in need of service.
The first thing I upgraded on my Marin San Quentin 2 were 30mm riser bar 760mm, Deity stem, grips, pedals, tubeless, and recently SHimano brake levers and brakes. Kinda suck when you can't spec out parts on a bike!
Upgrade your dropper post. I have the SDG tellis dropper has pretty much no play it's affordable and will still work at -20 degrees I know no one is riding that cold lol but I've had dropper post in 40 degrees go up so slow but no issues with this one!
The noise... maybe have the gears indexed. I could be wrong about this but if you adjust the b screw, you might get more clearance with the jockey wheel. Could be 100% wrong though. :)
It's just a feature of the pen tranzX. I had some stiction issues and after a service the play reduced quite a bit and the post is as smooth as butter.
Hey, mate. Looks like, that cable is not laid on his place. I have same deore. Looks like, that you need to untight cable fixing bolt and pit it in it's place 3:38. Regarding the fork it's the system to save your and fork.This forks designed to "unblock" in case of stong jump, etc. You need to ride a bit on unlocked fork.
Sounds like the noise is when the hub engages. There's a dead zone between coasting and the power hitting the wheel. The cheaper the vike rhe sloppier the hub engagement
Thank you!! We’re finally finding and getting into our groove lol. I haven’t brought it in yet. Hopefully sometime this month I’ll be able to get it in and get some insight into everything.
I might be extrmeley late, spoke sounded like brake support touches one of spokes 2:57 or maby just brake pad catches brake disc. More likeley the disc. But im getting bike tommorow, super stoked. My old frame has cracks and im forced to ride new bike at winter.
No worries! It turned out to be a stripped spoke and the entire rear wheel set was replaced under warranty. Congrats on the new bike though! Make sure to check the upgrade videos out. Spoiler alert: the XT shifter was totally best bang for buck upgrade!
I've got a Orbea Laufey h30 2022. This years model. SImilar to yours. in the geometry and tire width and so on. And spec. REccon to, and a mt201 breake. Somewhat cheaper then yours. I also rented a rosqoe 8 2023 prior to buying mine. Havent ridden mine mutch but we can compare our bikes.
I was sooooooo close to switching my order to a Roscoe 8 because, I love that deep blue and at the time, the 8’s were being delivered faster than the 7’s.
The rockshox recon is a budget fork it’s not surprising it’s breaking. They use it literally to save and cut money, otherwise it would have a good fork and cost $600 more. The 7 is fine to buy if you want to upgrade it, but the 8 is not worth it and you might as well get the 9.
I don’t disagree with you on it being a budget fork. For entry level it suits my level of riding. The Roscoe 7 has a lot of value for the money. Unfortunately this is what my budget allowed at the time and I’m pretty happy with my decision. Thankfully TREK did a full replacement under warranty.
I have the 2022 version and absolutely love the fork. Mine are Rockshox Judy Gold forks I believe. What are the differences between them and the Recon that they use now?
@yubtypin are you sure it’s a Judy fork? The Judy fork is lighter, has less adjustability and less travel. Don’t quote me but I believe Judy is more geared twards XC and light trail, where Recon is more of an all around trail fork with thicker stanchions
@yubtypin nice! Well it’s lighter and still has rebound adjustment so it’s not a major downside. The only relative “negative” is that the Judy’s have a max of 120mm travel compared to the recons 140mm. So you’re loosing 3/4 of an inch which may or may not limit you and your riding style.
the mt200's are on 90 percent of bikes in this price range. people hating on it don't realize that it is the standard for a 1900 dollar hardtail. i swapped out the levers for slx servo wave and improves the modulation and makes them more powerful. they arent necessary and are good stock
I find the mt200’s to be exactly what I need for my experience level. The loose tolerance in the rear brake lever is the only reason I discredited the mt200’s 🍻
Pedals and grips are personal preference. Every dropper has a little bit of play, every single one. The noise is your spokes. The derailer is not properly adjusted. Idk why i watched this video.
It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
I know its not xcaliber but how about speed out of trail with those tires,is it enough (btw im not a manic for crazy speed but i appriciete if i need to get little more speed ) or should i look elsewhere cause this geometry looks sick and im lookin at roscoe 8 !?
@@graysonmtb did you find out how to adjust it? I have about a month with my Roscoe 7 and I have that same annoying noise. I’ve noticed that it sounds a little bit less when it is clean and whitout any dust. It would be great if you can share a tip about how to eliminate this sound. Thank you very much in advance
Your 4-year old rides great by the way. I've a 3 year( and a couple of month) old boy and he is tagging along on the trails with his balance bike and loves it. Next step is to get a real bike for him. Do you have any suggestions? He is really tall for his age.
My kid has been rocking his precaliber 16 and it held up VERY well on a bunch of trails. He’s getting a new bike for his birthday but I think he’s going to get a different brand than Trek. He’s tall for his age too so I’m looking into a 20”
Have you had your bike shop check out all those negatives? Btw, your focus didn't seem centered on your face as it seems fuzzy. May want to go to a higher f stop or add more lighting.
Hopefully I’m going to bring the bike in soon. As for the camera, Thank you! Unfortunately for this video, I was stuck using my GoPro for the talking head portion. I definitely will be setting up something more permanent with my EOS R in future videos.
Depends on the price. The newer gen Roscoe has updated geometry, but most notably for a first bike, it has thru axles which is more future, less flex, and arguably more availability for upgrading than previous generation. With that being said it really comes down to how much your paying for an older gen Roscoe 7.
For me and my knowledge, that seems a little high unless the bike has valuable upgrades. Your best bet is asking a local bike shop what they would value the bike at.
I just bought Roscoe 7 2023 in size M and there is seat post in size 150mm that can go full down to the frame. Is that possible or they sell me wrong size?
Are your knees affected by the steep seat tupe angle? My body dosnt get along with the orbea. Knes and shoulders always creack and pop after a ride. Knees becouse of the steep STA and shoulders becouse of the 780mm handlebars. Im allmost 40...:/
It all depends on what your riding. In previous generations I think they used the same frame. Now with this generation the Roscoe has it's own frame that's slacker and geared more towards all trial use.
have you tried to lift your front wheel when your recon locking mechanism isnt doing what it should? I always lift mine up and do like a small wheelie whenever I turn the lockout on or off. Ive had a reba for like 17 years. Same old motion control tech. 1 service under all those years which I only did becouse you are sopposed to. The lockout still works like a charm. Not the gratest fork but on a hardtale,,, I feel like the stiff end is what is holding me bak anyway.
Good question and thank you! I usually do that when locking out. Lately I’ve noticed it happens every once in awhile even when I’m off the bike. Maybe it builds pressure up slowly when it’s colder and the bike is stored front wheel up on the wall?
@@graysonmtb maby it is not good for a bike to be hung like that. Im cutios and never do anything like that with my bikes. Even though this appartment actually came with a bike hanger:P
Comparing the orbea Laufey and Roscoe: the trek have larger actual tire volyme and the trekk roles worse. THe one I rented had like optimal low air pressure and it comes tublesss I belive. The trek rides mutch smother in the rear, and the frame is said to be more complient. The orbea feels more edgy and poppier, and more fun on esier smother stuff. But I bet that if I would compare them side to side on rugh stuff, the trek would come out on top by a lot. My mt201 brakes arent as good as my 18 year old Giant inhouse MPH brand brakes... Maby I broke in the mt201 brakes the wrong way... How did you breake in yours?
I’d like to take a ride on an Orbea to see the difference, it sounds like fun. All I did was bed in the pads for my MT-200’s and for my experience level they work very well. At this moment the only reason I’d upgrade is to pass them down to my wife’s bike.
When new id go pretty fast and grab both brakes as hard as I could to the point of just about to lock up then release right before the bike comes to a full stop. Did this a few times to coat the rotors and bed the pads in.
I can 100% agree just with how many people reached out to me about the rear wheel noise. And even when I was sent my replacement wheel it still needed spoke adjustments.
So the bike is crap. Appears trek don't care about making customers happy, or even making a good product. Seems like they are just selling the brand name. Very disappointing. Sad sad sad.
@@graysonmtb Well let's look at this for a minute. First i watched the entire video. You said nothing positive about it even when you tried. Also, a company that sells crap and then " we will make it right ".. lmfao. How about just sell a good bike from the start. Mind blowing right? But when a company does this crap, they are simply taking advantage of their customers, most won't say a thing. They will just replace the broke part, and trek makes more money off the bike that was crap to begin with. Scandless, and I would expect more for a name brand company. So for talking trash about trek. No. They did it themselves I only stated the obvious. Make better products, better quality control, and give your customers what they pay for. When they buy it. Not in a few months or days when it breaks.. ridiculous. Rather buy a bike that is built right that I don't have to ask to replace parts they know is bad. So if they want people to not discuss or talk about how they do bad business, well, then change the way they do business.
@@graysonmtb I am. Very happy to support you. It was a great video. I watched it a couple times over. Can't wait to see more. Actually going to go watch more of your videos right now. Your down to earth and real about what you talk about. Could of said nothing but good stuff, or lies, but you were real. Thank you for that. And 2k? Holy crap, see my point?
I appreciate that and Thank you! I keep things real because that’s really how it should be. 2k is a steep entry price for certain but when I looked at value when I was breaking into the sport. A lot of bikes didn’t have the same spec level for the price. I THINK at the time I was shipping it was pretty hard to find any other bike that was sub $1,800 that had a dropper post (unless you were considering a Schwinn Auxm DP as a competitor)
The rear noise is your spokes. Check the tension on them.
I’ve had the same happen on my gravel bike, didn’t even notice the snapped spoke until the mechanic pointed it out lmao
Popped 3 spokes in the first 6 months on my Marlin. Trek dealer warrantied them, no issue, but I did end up getting aftermarket wheels that never popped a spoke after that.
Agree definitely sounds like the spokes
Appreciate this. I have been considering buying a Roscoe and this will help.
Thank you. It’s a really great bike despite my nitpicking lol
What a great review. A bloke that is stoked is a good bloke
Thank you! I’m working on the 1yr video as we speak!
I also was like this dude and went from a Walmart bike 2-3 years ago, to the Roscoe 7 and I have absolutely no complaints I love it
I had a similar noise on a previous bike and it turned out the stock chain was wrong so every few rotations is a specific gear the chain slips over a sprocket and makes the clanging sound, also hear it when changing down under tension
Great video. Shout out from the uk bro
Thanks Brother!
Loving my Roscoe 7. I’ve had it for 3 weeks and ride it 3-4 times a week. I did upgrade my pedals. I also upgraded my handle bar to PNW Gen 3 35mm along with my stem and went from a 50mm to a 45mm. I think my next upgrade will be the brakes to Shimano 6120’s. Keep the videos coming.
Great stuff man. My only complaint with mine is I should've bought a M instead of the M/L but I only felt that way after riding my wife's M Ripmo. Like you pedals and grips got upgraded but I feel like thats just going to happen on just about any bike. We did the same when the Ripmo arrived out of the box. LOL
I'm looking at a 7 now, and trying to decide between the M and ML. I'm 5'9, 32" inseam and about 190lbs. Any advice? Thanks!
@@matjj676 I am roughly the same and I bought the M/L I wish I would've bought the M after riding this one a whole bunch and then jumping on Gigi's M Ripmo.
I’ll second going down to a M! I’m the same, and l have to slam the seat post or else the dropper is too high for me (and I’m not getting any taller). If I had to do it again I’d go for the M.
Gotcha, thanks guys! 👍
I bought a ML R6 last year, this year I’m lucky enough to be able to upgrade to an R7. I’m going to be going with an M. I’m similar measurements as you.
my roscoe 7 2019 model use to do the same noise they built the whole back wheel again and it seems to be fine buying a $1800 bike it is a bit annoying but at least they fixed the problem
I hope yours is fixed as well i might add thing one does not expect these things to happen when buying a $1800 MTB but it is nice to see a bike shop going the extra mile to fix the problem i guess things happen and to get such great service so quick once i told them what was going on, at the time i was so annoyed in buying a $1800 MTB i was considering not buying another trek ever but there service was awesome so who knows what i will bye next i am looking at a Procaliber 9.6 not to sure yet but if i do bye another MTB it has to be a upgrade from my 2019 roscoe 7
I think I know what the clanking noise is. The chain might be slightly buckled and when the chain goes over certain clogs on the cassette it will slip and make that exact sound. Basically take the chain off and bend it over your hand like it’s going through the sprockets and you’ll find a part of the chain where the links are buckled.
Thank you!
let me know if it was that. Used to happen on my old bike. It made the exact same sound. It was the chain which was slightly stiff/buckled and when it was turning on the drive chain it would slip off with a lift and then push back in with a clank noise. @@graysonmtb
100% after months, I'm hearing it again. I'll probably rip into it this weekend. I really appreciate you reaching out!
That noise is a bottom bracket. I have a marlin 7 and was hearing the same noise on mine
Congrats on the 7! I picked one up as well but have swapped out nearly everything -- except the dropper. Just about every dropper will have a slight wiggle. Keep us posted on the pinging sound from the drivetrain. The Shimano Deore 12spd is a fantastic drivetrain!
Thanks brother. It was such a weird feeling when I went on a ride and the dropper started to move as I peddled. I love the bike so far and it’s such a world of a difference from what I’ve come from. I’ll be taking it in for the first tune up and I’ll post an update of what it comes down to. Thank you!
@@graysonmtb I don't know if it's a common problem with droppers, but we put a PNW Rainier dropper on my son's Rockhopper. Exact same problem with the twisting play.
Thanks for the list! I'm looking at this bike as well. Coming from a 1986 Univega mountain with a ridged fork and center pull rim brakes, I'm sure any new decent mountain bike will be a major upgrade, but can only afford one good bike, so trying to get a Jack of All Trades. Have you ridden it much on pavement? I have a 3 mile, 50/50 road/trail commute that will be a majority of my riding and wondered if the fat tires will drag a lot. Also, how well does it climb?
Thanks!
Hey Robert! Yes we cruise around the neighborhood almost every day with some pretty awesome inclines. It climbs well especially with the super low gear! The fork lockout does a good job keeping energy transfer where it’s needed. I’d probably look more into an cross country (XC) bike in your specific use case. The TREK Marlin series might be a better choice but I’d still suggest you go visit your local bike shop and test ride 😀
@@graysonmtb Thank you! Yes, I was all set to get a XC bike (Marlin 7) then some people said to look at the Roscoe as well. I found a shop in my area that has an X-Caliber and Roscoe I can test ride, but thinking of trying to rent something for a whole day first to get familiar with the feel of the different frame/weight combos. I do ride a bit of trails as well when my son is home form college.
Renting is definitely the way to go! Definitely let me know what you eventually choose! I was torn between Marlin and a Roscoe as well until I talked to my guys at Trek and my use case. Either way let me know what bike you end up getting!
The noise you are getting is likely coming from freehub- you might want to clean it and add some light grease to the pawl area.
the chain noise is the same as my roscoe 6,i put it down to the single sprocket on the front ,the chain travel from top gear to botton gear pulls the chain off the front sprocket at an angle,example in the middle gear the noise is reduced
I have a Trek marlin 8 2022 , i upgraded tires pedals handelbars stem grips and brake discs
The noise you’re hearing might’ve been from your cassette, check if it’s tightened or lined up. I had that similar noise with my trek as well, especially on the harder gear (smaller cog)
Thank you for that advice! In this instance, It turned out tone a defective spoke and TREK wound up replacing the entire rear wheel.
A few people have commented asking if you figured out that noise yet. Have you figured it out?
the lock out is also an issue I have. Apparently its to do with the lockout and that it can be fixed when you get a service
Ah ha! Thank you!!!
love the video mate, its worth noting that some aspects of your review on the bike are not very relevant to the bike itself (some pros and cons). Things like good breaks or compontents acting unwise. As for the cable rubbing on the lowest gear, the pinch bolt that holds it in is meant to have the cable wrap in a U shape with a cutout but over time the cable can slip out and thats what seems to have happened, its pretty universal for derailleurs to have that system. The dropper will always have play. As for the noise its hard to tell from two short clips so I dont know. Anyway if you want one cheap upgrade to make your bike feel even better, throw an XT shifter on your Deore drivetrain, XT and XTR shifters are different mechanically from Deore and SLX and have a crisper click, reduced shifting delay and allow you to shift 4 down and 2 up which is nice.
Thank you and I appreciate your advice, I’m trying to improve my talking points and planning with every video I put out. I had no idea the XT and txt shifters would be that large of an upgrade. It sounds like something I would want to change because I do feel like the shifting is kinda mushy and rubbish. Thank you Rex!
@@graysonmtb No problem mate, I think you should be able to find an XT shifter for a decent price and the process of swapping them is fairly easy and good practice for indexing gears, anyway if you want to try record that funky sound a bit better im sure myself or one of your other fans could tell what it is.
The noise could be spokes tension is the key
@rex9003 Brother! I just finished some upgrades and i took your advice with the XT shifter. It's a massive improvement over the stock Deore! I'm going to give you a shout-out in the 1-year update video that i'm currently working on. Thank you!
@@graysonmtb love to the XT worked out well for you mate, definitely interested to see what you thought of the bike after a whole year of usage.
Debating on one of these a 7 vs an 8. I figure for only $250 more for the 8, it's a much better deal. But that's just me. And quick tip for you...always start out with the good then do the bad, not the other way around. You'll lose visitors/subscribers if you always start out a video with a negative slant as opposed to a positive one.
If I had the money I’d go with the 8 over the 7. Just the price difference makes up for the better rear hub and the fork. And a huge THANK TOU for the insight/tip! I will absolutely take that feedback and implement!
Pretty much agree with everything. I will say that I do not like the tires. I ride more technical trails rather than flow trails and the traction wasn’t great in my opinion. Constantly felt like I was losing traction on certain rough parts. Overall I’m happy with it.
What tires did you end up with?
@@graysonmtb maxxis minion dhf on front and rear. felt like night and day once I switched over. Granted I am still definitely a beginner so im not some expert but I felt way more stable and confident on the maxxis tires.
Nice! Im getting close to needing tires. Been wondering which way I wanna go with them.
I have same issues with the seat post! About the noise on the drive train that could be loose cassette or something to be titen on the hub, I also have the same thing! I have a review on my 2023 rascoe 7 as well!
I’ve noticed all droppers (that I’ve come across) have radial play so I suppose a little tolerance is normal and trek confirmed when I brought it in.
@@graysonmtb yes, because this kind that comes with Roscoe 7 is super cheap. I have a Syncros Duncan 2.0 dropper post that came on my 2022 Scott Genius 920 still like brand new and no play whatsoever after almost 2 years of bashing, mud and crashes! And still no signs of it in need of service.
I have that same dropper on my Salsa and it definitely wobbles more than my Fox Transfer that’s on my Santa Cruz.
Yeah some friends have PNW droppers and they didn’t have any wobble!
The first thing I upgraded on my Marin San Quentin 2 were 30mm riser bar 760mm, Deity stem, grips, pedals, tubeless, and recently SHimano brake levers and brakes. Kinda suck when you can't spec out parts on a bike!
I think my next upgrade will be a stem and changing out the shift level for a better more solid feel.
dropper post is a key neccesaty for any type of rding but mroe or less for trails and stuff lke that, enduro.
You are 100% spot on! I didn’t think much of it at first but now I don’t know how I would do without one.
I get that noise 2:57 too, usually after coasting then putting power down again.
Yes I’ve noticed it then as well!
That's just an adjustment you need to get ride of the chain noise.
Upgrade your dropper post. I have the SDG tellis dropper has pretty much no play it's affordable and will still work at -20 degrees I know no one is riding that cold lol but I've had dropper post in 40 degrees go up so slow but no issues with this one!
The noise... maybe have the gears indexed. I could be wrong about this but if you adjust the b screw, you might get more clearance with the jockey wheel. Could be 100% wrong though. :)
Thank you!
I've read that it is normal for a droper to have a little play. Mine which is orbeas own brand has a little play too. Dosnt really bother me.
It's just a feature of the pen tranzX. I had some stiction issues and after a service the play reduced quite a bit and the post is as smooth as butter.
Hey, mate. Looks like, that cable is not laid on his place. I have same deore. Looks like, that you need to untight cable fixing bolt and pit it in it's place 3:38. Regarding the fork it's the system to save your and fork.This forks designed to "unblock" in case of stong jump, etc. You need to ride a bit on unlocked fork.
Sounds like the noise is when the hub engages. There's a dead zone between coasting and the power hitting the wheel. The cheaper the vike rhe sloppier the hub engagement
I usually hear the noice after coasting and then just as I’m starting to pedal
good video, have you gotten the tune up yet with trek?
Thank you!! We’re finally finding and getting into our groove lol. I haven’t brought it in yet. Hopefully sometime this month I’ll be able to get it in and get some insight into everything.
I might be extrmeley late, spoke sounded like brake support touches one of spokes 2:57 or maby just brake pad catches brake disc. More likeley the disc. But im getting bike tommorow, super stoked. My old frame has cracks and im forced to ride new bike at winter.
No worries! It turned out to be a stripped spoke and the entire rear wheel set was replaced under warranty. Congrats on the new bike though! Make sure to check the upgrade videos out. Spoiler alert: the XT shifter was totally best bang for buck upgrade!
I've got a Orbea Laufey h30 2022. This years model. SImilar to yours. in the geometry and tire width and so on. And spec. REccon to, and a mt201 breake. Somewhat cheaper then yours. I also rented a rosqoe 8 2023 prior to buying mine. Havent ridden mine mutch but we can compare our bikes.
I was sooooooo close to switching my order to a Roscoe 8 because, I love that deep blue and at the time, the 8’s were being delivered faster than the 7’s.
The sound is your dork disk on your spokes
I wish it was! The dork disk was removed within the first week of ownership
The rockshox recon is a budget fork it’s not surprising it’s breaking. They use it literally to save and cut money, otherwise it would have a good fork and cost $600 more. The 7 is fine to buy if you want to upgrade it, but the 8 is not worth it and you might as well get the 9.
I don’t disagree with you on it being a budget fork. For entry level it suits my level of riding. The Roscoe 7 has a lot of value for the money. Unfortunately this is what my budget allowed at the time and I’m pretty happy with my decision. Thankfully TREK did a full replacement under warranty.
I have the 2022 version and absolutely love the fork. Mine are Rockshox Judy Gold forks I believe. What are the differences between them and the Recon that they use now?
@yubtypin are you sure it’s a Judy fork? The Judy fork is lighter, has less adjustability and less travel. Don’t quote me but I believe Judy is more geared twards XC and light trail, where Recon is more of an all around trail fork with thicker stanchions
@@graysonmtb well I purchased it used but it does say Judy and it's an air fork.
@yubtypin nice! Well it’s lighter and still has rebound adjustment so it’s not a major downside. The only relative “negative” is that the Judy’s have a max of 120mm travel compared to the recons 140mm. So you’re loosing 3/4 of an inch which may or may not limit you and your riding style.
the mt200's are on 90 percent of bikes in this price range. people hating on it don't realize that it is the standard for a 1900 dollar hardtail. i swapped out the levers for slx servo wave and improves the modulation and makes them more powerful. they arent necessary and are good stock
I find the mt200’s to be exactly what I need for my experience level. The loose tolerance in the rear brake lever is the only reason I discredited the mt200’s 🍻
Pedals and grips are personal preference.
Every dropper has a little bit of play, every single one.
The noise is your spokes.
The derailer is not properly adjusted.
Idk why i watched this video.
did you figure out that noise?
It went together easily in less than an hour. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
I know its not xcaliber but how about speed out of trail with those tires,is it enough (btw im not a manic for crazy speed but i appriciete if i need to get little more speed ) or should i look elsewhere cause this geometry looks sick and im lookin at roscoe 8 !?
With the stock gearing, right around 25 mph is it’s limitation
@@graysonmtb thats enough, thx
Sure thing!
Man if you figure out what that sound is let me know because my 2023 roscoe 6 makes the same noise
I’ll keep you in the loop. It’s going in for its first service next week(ish)
That random noise comes from hub flexing and messing with the engagement mechanism.
Thank you!!
No problem, BTW, mt200 brakes can be set up as single finger by moving them inward
@@graysonmtb did you find out how to adjust it? I have about a month with my Roscoe 7 and I have that same annoying noise. I’ve noticed that it sounds a little bit less when it is clean and whitout any dust. It would be great if you can share a tip about how to eliminate this sound. Thank you very much in advance
Your 4-year old rides great by the way. I've a 3 year( and a couple of month) old boy and he is tagging along on the trails with his balance bike and loves it. Next step is to get a real bike for him. Do you have any suggestions? He is really tall for his age.
My kid has been rocking his precaliber 16 and it held up VERY well on a bunch of trails. He’s getting a new bike for his birthday but I think he’s going to get a different brand than Trek. He’s tall for his age too so I’m looking into a 20”
@@graysonmtb good kids MTBs are expensive.
Have you had your bike shop check out all those negatives? Btw, your focus didn't seem centered on your face as it seems fuzzy. May want to go to a higher f stop or add more lighting.
Hopefully I’m going to bring the bike in soon. As for the camera, Thank you! Unfortunately for this video, I was stuck using my GoPro for the talking head portion. I definitely will be setting up something more permanent with my EOS R in future videos.
Did you figure out the clicking sound?
We sure did! I’ll be making an upcoming video talking about it
I am newbie to Biking. Planning to buy Roscoe 7 2021 model preowned as a bike for a Daily Commute. Whats your take on it ?
Depends on the price. The newer gen Roscoe has updated geometry, but most notably for a first bike, it has thru axles which is more future, less flex, and arguably more availability for upgrading than previous generation. With that being said it really comes down to how much your paying for an older gen Roscoe 7.
@@graysonmtb around 800dollars and 65k in Indian currency
For me and my knowledge, that seems a little high unless the bike has valuable upgrades. Your best bet is asking a local bike shop what they would value the bike at.
I was the same with the dropper. Now I wouldn't ride without it
It was so funny! Day 1: “eh it’s cool, don’t feel like I need it for my experience level. Day 3: “adding this to my must-have list”
Its the freehub, i think the sound
And the fork need a service, sometimes its no good with oil and butter in it or too much in the wrong place...
Thank you! I’ll be bringing it in for the first service in a few weeks and I’ll throw an update together! 🤟🏻
I just bought Roscoe 7 2023 in size M and there is seat post in size 150mm that can go full down to the frame. Is that possible or they sell me wrong size?
For reference, I have a M/L and I can lower my dropper post all the way down to the collar.
Are your knees affected by the steep seat tupe angle? My body dosnt get along with the orbea. Knes and shoulders always creack and pop after a ride. Knees becouse of the steep STA and shoulders becouse of the 780mm handlebars. Im allmost 40...:/
So far the only thing I’ve noticed has been that the Roscoe is more comfortable on my back than the Schwin Axum. Knees and shoulders feel ok so far.
@@graysonmtb Im glad to hear it. I think it is importent to not set the saddle too high when the seat tube angle is modern and steep.
how tall are you and what size is your Roscoe? Im 6´ (182cm) and rented a M/L frame. I think it is 455mm in reach.
5’8” and I’m right inbetween M and M/L so I went by feel and the M/L felt like the sweet spot when I rode
I'm 182 as well but ride a L Def wouldn't want a size down. You should have got a L my man
@@brabbit3873 i like smaller frames. My own hardcore hardtale is a orbea Laufey Large. 459mm reach.
I bought the same bike! How are you liking the bike still?
Still love it! It’s an amazing starting point for my experience level.
Shall i get this or the X Caliber 8?
It all depends on what your riding. In previous generations I think they used the same frame. Now with this generation the Roscoe has it's own frame that's slacker and geared more towards all trial use.
that noise sounds like a spoke slightly torquing and turning in its nipple. Should go away as your spokes settle in.
I got a PNW sticker with my dropper but not my lever
Lol it’s such a small thing for them to do but i was definitely looking to add a PNW sticker to the bike tool box. Disappointed. Lol
have you tried to lift your front wheel when your recon locking mechanism isnt doing what it should? I always lift mine up and do like a small wheelie whenever I turn the lockout on or off. Ive had a reba for like 17 years. Same old motion control tech. 1 service under all those years which I only did becouse you are sopposed to. The lockout still works like a charm. Not the gratest fork but on a hardtale,,, I feel like the stiff end is what is holding me bak anyway.
Good question and thank you! I usually do that when locking out. Lately I’ve noticed it happens every once in awhile even when I’m off the bike. Maybe it builds pressure up slowly when it’s colder and the bike is stored front wheel up on the wall?
@@graysonmtb maby it is not good for a bike to be hung like that. Im cutios and never do anything like that with my bikes. Even though this appartment actually came with a bike hanger:P
....Stickers? really? how old are you?
Awesome info! I just got the same exact bike a couple of days ago. Coming from a Dick's lol
Yeah man! That’s awesome! Isn’t it crazy how night and day different it feels?
Comparing the orbea Laufey and Roscoe: the trek have larger actual tire volyme and the trekk roles worse. THe one I rented had like optimal low air pressure and it comes tublesss I belive. The trek rides mutch smother in the rear, and the frame is said to be more complient. The orbea feels more edgy and poppier, and more fun on esier smother stuff. But I bet that if I would compare them side to side on rugh stuff, the trek would come out on top by a lot. My mt201 brakes arent as good as my 18 year old Giant inhouse MPH brand brakes... Maby I broke in the mt201 brakes the wrong way... How did you breake in yours?
I’d like to take a ride on an Orbea to see the difference, it sounds like fun. All I did was bed in the pads for my MT-200’s and for my experience level they work very well. At this moment the only reason I’d upgrade is to pass them down to my wife’s bike.
@@graysonmtb how did you bed them in? Im a little confused how you do it.
When new id go pretty fast and grab both brakes as hard as I could to the point of just about to lock up then release right before the bike comes to a full stop. Did this a few times to coat the rotors and bed the pads in.
@@graysonmtb I did the opposite sort of. Rode it indors and hardly sqused the brakes. Maby not the smartest thing to do.
Trek lacks the QC it once had.
I can 100% agree just with how many people reached out to me about the rear wheel noise. And even when I was sent my replacement wheel it still needed spoke adjustments.
That noise is your spokes
I thought so too at first but it happens as a very particular time no they’re all tight.
2:57 probably it's from the Rd hanger hit on the spokes
😲 I just looked at my RD and I think your right! There’s scrape marks on the inside of the pivot point! Is that normal?
lol yeah your thumbs are actually quite short.
🤣🤣 they are
So the bike is crap. Appears trek don't care about making customers happy, or even making a good product. Seems like they are just selling the brand name. Very disappointing. Sad sad sad.
lol make sure you see the long term video before trashing TREK. Their business has always revolved around their motto “We’ll make it right”
@@graysonmtb Well let's look at this for a minute. First i watched the entire video. You said nothing positive about it even when you tried. Also, a company that sells crap and then " we will make it right ".. lmfao. How about just sell a good bike from the start. Mind blowing right? But when a company does this crap, they are simply taking advantage of their customers, most won't say a thing. They will just replace the broke part, and trek makes more money off the bike that was crap to begin with. Scandless, and I would expect more for a name brand company.
So for talking trash about trek. No. They did it themselves I only stated the obvious.
Make better products, better quality control, and give your customers what they pay for. When they buy it. Not in a few months or days when it breaks.. ridiculous. Rather buy a bike that is built right that I don't have to ask to replace parts they know is bad.
So if they want people to not discuss or talk about how they do bad business, well, then change the way they do business.
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. I’m very happy with my sub $2,000 MTB. Thanks for your support.
@@graysonmtb I am. Very happy to support you. It was a great video. I watched it a couple times over. Can't wait to see more. Actually going to go watch more of your videos right now. Your down to earth and real about what you talk about. Could of said nothing but good stuff, or lies, but you were real. Thank you for that. And 2k? Holy crap, see my point?
I appreciate that and Thank you! I keep things real because that’s really how it should be. 2k is a steep entry price for certain but when I looked at value when I was breaking into the sport. A lot of bikes didn’t have the same spec level for the price. I THINK at the time I was shipping it was pretty hard to find any other bike that was sub $1,800 that had a dropper post (unless you were considering a Schwinn Auxm DP as a competitor)