Who CREATED Hip-Hop? Black Americans? Jamaicans? Puerto Ricans? (Fixed)
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- Who really created hip-hop? Was it Black Americans, Jamaicans, or Puerto Ricans? Join Doggie Diamonds as he delves into the origins of hip-hop, exploring the contributions and influences of different communities. This episode of Doggie Diamonds No Filter will take you through the historical roots and cultural impact of hip-hop, breaking down the key players and pivotal moments. Don't miss this deep dive into the true origins of one of the most influential music genres in the world. Tune in now on Doggie Diamonds TV!
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The documentary Microphone Check , The Hidden History of Hip Hop debunks all of the lies. Salute to Tariq Nasheed
Stay on those teathers back brother, we support your fight all the way from Miami from your FBA brothers. This hate and resentment towards FBA's started from those hating 🇯🇲 Jamaicans who have straight hate and jealousy for us black Americans but we are going to spank them good and public shame these ungrateful heathens
Ozone in the movie was not latino or Puerto Rican , he was born in Chicago of African lineage of east African bloodline; either Ethiopian or Eritrean decent.
Ozone was ot latino or Puerto 🇵🇷 Rican, he was born in Chicago of East African decent ; either from 🇪🇹 Ethiopia or Eritrea 🇪🇷 decent, there you have it doggy diamonds. My FBA brother we love you from Miami and we appreciate 🙏 you being on code. 🐕 doggydiamonds! I can give you many sources of musical experiences if you need it.
Also, you should do a video about the legacy of black Americans on how we impacted the world 🌎 because these west Indians aka Jamaicans keep spreading that hate toward black Americans and we need to set the record straight with with class and ethics , such as you're doing now. RESPECT 🙏
Black Americans created hip hop alone. A fact.
Alone?! Now, here is a question. How does one go about creating elements?
@@elvinsolano6177 THE TRUE FOUNDATION OF HIP HOP: Black Americans created various music genres such as Gospel, The Blues, Jubilee music, Ragtime, Jazz, Swing, Soul, R&B, Country music, Rock & Roll, Bee Bop, Doo Wop, Disco, Funk, Go Go Music, House music, Bounce, Hip Hop, Neo Soul and Techno. The breakbeats and soundscape of Hip Hop were greatly influenced by James Brown. In fact, James Brown is the most sampled artist within Hip Hop of all time. Technically, James Brown is The Godfather of Hip Hop. Respect to the legendary DJ Kool Herc. But, he was a major contributor to Hip Hop and not its creator. If a Jamaican or Puerto Rican created Hip Hop then why isn't a Jamaican or Puerto Rican artist the most sampled in Hip Hop history? Name the various phrases from Reggae, Dance hall, Jamaican patois, Salsa or Spanish lingo that were adopted by Hip Hop. Can you show any Jamaicans or Puerto Ricans rapping and break dancing in 30s and 40s prior to Hip Hop? The elements of Hip Hop started WAY before Kool Herc and WAY before 1973. Black Americans were rapping in the 1940s. Examples of this include “The Jubalaires.” Hip Hop lingo was greatly influenced by the Black American Jazz era.. Jazz terms such as Funky, Fresh, Fly, Dope, Hip, The Bomb, Boogie, Cool, Chill, Crib, Down by law, Jam, etc were adopted by Hip Hop.
It's important to note that Black Americans were holding house parties and block parties with booming systems and dancing to James Brown music back in the 1960s. Dancers would pop & lock, slide, and do splits to mimic James Brown’s style of dancing. Signature dances such as the Camel Walk, The Mash Potato, The Soul Train, The James Brown, etc were all great influences on future B-Boys and B-Girls.
DJING:
Black American DJs Disco King Mario and Grandmaster Flowers are heralded as the real founding fathers of Hip Hop. They both played James Brown & Disco breakbeats at block parties before Kool Herc. Disco King Mario got a street named after him in The Bronx by the City of New York for being one of the founding fathers of Hip Hop.
HIP HOP'S SOUTHERN ROOTS #2: Comedian Rudy Ray Moore set the precedent for mixing beats and rhymes. He is called the Godfather of Rap for helping to birth the genre. He was from Arkansas. Comedian Pigmeat Markham released the song "Here Comes The Judge" in 1968 on Chess Records. The song was a forerunner of Rap music. Mr. Markham was from Durham, North Carolina. Also, old school rapper Coke La Rock is oftentimes credited as being the first official MC in the history of Hip-hop. He was originally from North Carolina and moved to New York.
EMCING
Black American old school rapper Coke La Rock from New York City is oftentimes credited as being the first official MC in the history of Hip-hop.
GRAFFITI:
In terms of Graffiti, the 1st known modern graffiti artist went by the name of “CornBread” in the 1960s. He was a Black American from Philadelphia. "CornBread" is heralded as being the first graffiti writer.
BREAKDANCING:
Black Americans invented acrobatic dances such as Tap Dancing, The Charleston, The Lindy Hop, etc. These dances would later become major influences on breakdancing. Additionally, in 1925, Earl Tucker (aka Snake Hips), a performer at the Cotton Club, invented a dance style similar to today’s hip-hop moves. He incorporated floats and slides into his dance. Similar moves would later inspire breakdancing.
Breakdancing itself is also thought to have been inspired by the performances of James Brown, which included splits, popping and locking. According to legendary Latino break dancer Crazy Legs, there were very few Hispanic B Boys in the beginning. He said that almost all the B Boys were Afro American. Crazy Legs stated that the Latinos in the 1970's originally referred to breakdancing as Moreno Style dancing.
BREAK BEATS/HIP HOP SOUNDSCAPE:
In 1962, James Brown recorded "Live at the Apollo." Brown’s drummer Clayton F. introduced a sound that is now known as the breakbeat. The breakbeat would later inspire the b-boy movement, as breakers danced to these beats at block parties.
More importantly, in 1969 James Brown recorded two songs that would further influence the drum programming in today’s rap music: “Sex Machine” with John Starks playing drums, and “Funky Drummer” with Clyde Stubblefield on the drums.
BATTLING:
Another early and continuing influence on Hip hop culture is the Black American competitive oral competition called “playing the dozens,” which combines humorous insults and oral skills in a battle to shock and ultimately silence one’s opponent. A famous practitioner of this oratorical contest was Muhammad Ali, who used short rhymes to belittle his opponents and stupefy pundits. In hip hop the “dozens” grew into the tradition known as “battling,” in which rappers face off against each other to see who has the best lyrics and stylistic flow.
TOASTING:
Equally important, toasting was derived from the “rapping” of black American radio DJs from the 1940s through the 1960s. These Black American Djs influenced the toasting style of the Jamaican dancehall producer Coxson Dodd. Dodd took toasting to Jamaica.
BEATBOXING:
Beatboxing is the fifth element of Hip Hop. Some of the historical influences of beatboxing include scat singing out of jazz. It's a historically Black American art form in that even the scat singing in jazz owes a lot of its roots to blues. Scat singing influenced the development of doo-wop and rap and hip-hop styles. Beatboxing is a tradition of vocal percussion which originates in 1980s Hip-Hop. The first pioneer of 1980s beatbox was Darren 'Buffy' Robinson, a member of the Hip Hop crew The Fat Boys.
CALL & RESPONSE AND HIP HOP CADENCE:
Hip Hop was greatly influenced and inspired by The Black American tradition of Call and Response. This tradition grew out of the Black churches in the deep South, whereby Baptist preachers would grunt, scream, and holler to elicit a response from the congregation. Music artists, such as James Brown, used Call and Response chants and grunts in their songs. In the deep south, Call and Response chants morphed into work chants. Singing work chants helped coordinate movements and build on collective strength in harsh working conditions. Cadence calls motivate, while ensuring unit cohesion and promoting fun. One man, known as the caller, would stand aside from the crew and sing verbal instructions. His commands were answered by the men’s lining bars rapping in rhythm in a call and response manner.
The military adopted the Call and Response Cadence songs. Black American Army Private Willie Lee Duckworth Sr. (1924-2004) made up “Sound Off”, a.k.a., the “Duckworth Chant,” which is used to this day in the U.S. Army and other branches of the military. The chant later gained fame as “Sound Off” and remains one of the most popular marching cadences in Army history. Early Black American Hip Hop DJ's used the Black American tradition of Call and Response to format the beginning cadence of Hip Hop. A cadence is a rhythm, or a flow of words or music, in a sequence that is regular or steady. The "Sound off" chant greatly influenced the cadence of early Hip Hop emcees. The pioneering Hip Hop DJs used Call and Response chants and grunts to motivate, engage, inspire, and move the crowd by instructing the audience to scream, or repeat popular phrases.
@@elvinsolano6177 simply by incorporating the things afforded to you. The things other's passed off as trash and looked at to have litte to no value and just like that, out of the ashes you have a new creation that no one else could conceive and unable to process until the value in it grew and now here you have, ( just like all other FBA creations) a host of others digging and clawing at being credited as Co-producers of a creation that they never had parts of creating. "They're slaves, you can take anything you want from them and nobody would care". This has been the ongoing mindset by all outside of the FBA lineage. We've always been forced to make due with what we had. We've always made sugar out of sht, this brought you the cotton gin, chitterlings, the dozens and all kinds of things that were born from oppression. So to my Caribbean brothers and sisters and our Latino cousin, we've given all we can give now please back up and let us have our creation, because the fact is that HIP HOP is a FBA creation PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!
What about the English language? Did you create that alone as well?
@@Topsey2000 nobody in America created English language, what’s your point?
I hate it had to come to this. But Black Americans is standing on business
Black Americans invented every genre of American music. Starting with aThe Old Negro Spirituals - HipHop!!! Black Americans are currently the trendsetters of the entire world 🌍. I have to remind myself sometimes that we, BLACK Americans, are so special the people admire and try to emulate us all over this planet. What makes us so UNIQUE !?
Brother Doggie Diamonds is 100% Correct.......FBA we are the culture....it's nothing that we can turn on or turn off.....
We're in the belly of the beast, striving to maintain an independent, identifiable culture...everybody gotta respect that!
What about native americans ?
@@JaySDXSE Huh, what about them ? No seriously, educate me on how that pertains to this conversation ! I respect my Native American brothers and sisters even though that respect is often not reciprocated.
@@gerardchisolm8605 they lived in America and made music all im saying is give them there respect in that aspect.
Black Americans are owed a apology from Busta
As an Afro Caribbean brother from the UK I gotta say i definitely rock with the FBA brothers. It’s ok to delineate and give each other our respect for our achievements and still support each other as black
I agree with you hundred per cent but really I think this whole argument is ridiculous and deliberately divisive. I am also Carribbean descent and UK born and it is so obvious to me that HipHop is originated from Black Americans, I don't hear or see any Carribbean influence in it.
@@rtee8904Same im Of Jamaican descent and I’ve never questioned who originated Hip Hop it’s just so obvious I’m surprised this is something that has become a thing
@@444BAKARI Lack of respect got us here, not educating themselves on American History on arrival.. Sometimes years pass and Ones & Ones still willfully remain ignorant.. They're our Kindred But..Truth is Truth
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A lot of Jamaicans say Jamaicans created hip-hop and they say with pride even Spice said it
Agreed
As a proud Puerto Rican I give my FBA brothas all their praise and credit for creating something so wonderful and allowing my people to be a part of it. And to my fellow Latinos let’s stop it with trying to rewrite these people history bro. That’s not he we get down.
‘how’
Salute to you bro
Let's be real out of all of the Latin community black Americans F with ricians like family .
I have to disagree...I have to say Puerto Ricans did play a vital role in Hip Hop..I am Black from NYC...
@knos360 What was the vital role that they played? Would it have changed the direction of hip-hop as we know it today, I doubt it.
Brother Doggie Diamonds is 100% Correct.......FBA we are the culture....it's nothing that we can turn on or turn off.....
Black American culture was not invented, hip-hop is simply who we are as a people. Hip-hop is a evolution of black American culture that began long before the arrival of Caucasians on our American soil.
Hmm sorry bit Caucasians brought you to this soil, you was mr here before them.. the native Indigenous were.
omg stop with the bs krs1 quotes, think for yourself!
That's not true. If you're black in America your roots are in Africa. There were no black people here prior to colonization. That's just a fact. Hip hop is a 100% black music but you can't cry about Hip hop then claim to be native american or indigenous.
@@LuisRamirez-vv4dk exactly they are in denial of their roots, they are not indigenous.. it began in africa
@@LuisRamirez-vv4dk who told you that? The white man? The original Indians are black. Black Americans are not African. You immigrants are African.
Blacks created hip hop and breakdancing during slavery. Us puerto ricans are just "The first students " that gave way too legends like Pun and company "
Now that's an odd chronology for the origin of "Black music."
Thank you for keeping it a buck
Thanks for keeping it a buck
@@B1Bidness absolutely 💯
We not no haters..We just getting everything straight...We would never try to take credit for anything in your culture.we just asking for the same respect
The elephant in the room is that we're the most musically creatve people on the planet. Everybody knows it, but dare to say it. And we have been humble about it for so long. Now we have to speak on our achievements before people start claiming them
Musically creative, you obviously don't travel the world, you have never left the country, you're talking pure ignorance
used to be
@@emmetttill148 , WE STILL ARE. STOP IT. EVERY TREND WE SET TRENDS GLOBALLY.....WE ARE THE WORLD'S GREATEST TRENDSETTERS RIGHT NOW & HAVE ALWAYS BEEN.
@@sslyshalom333 learn the difference between trend setting and musical creativity, they're 2 completely different things. droopin your pants and showin your azz is a trend, but creating music takes musical knowledge... and that's something hip hoppers know absolutely nothing about!
Doggie the movie is here! Microphone Check. The pioneers have ended the debate.
@@NFRMRY who was the debate between?
Foundational Black Americans period end of discussion. My comment is in direct alignment with the empirical data and the historical record. Blessings
That racist “Dr” Colon gonna see this and have a stroke 😂😂😂
I seen his own people tell him blacks created hiphop.
@@eruss4373I have too but he always says anyone(even his own people) who doesn’t agree with him are wrong. Did you see what he said about Charlie Chase after Chase told the truth and said us black Americans made hip hop?
Actually the guy called Ozone from the movie Breaking was a street dancer from Chicago that moved to LA and was part of the original lockers. We was doing the moon walk in the 70s. But we called it the back slide, because the moon walk was to walk forward. So in the 70s we was locking doing the robot and strutting
I've seen some black & white video footage of the MOONWALK, too. As U said, we have a lot of the same dance moves as our ancestors, just going by different names.
His name was Adolfo “Shabba Doo” Quinones. He was a proud Afro/Latino brother. He danced on Soul Train with his sister. Danced with the LA Lockers. Was a choreographer with Tony Basil famed dancer & musical artist. Starred in the movie Breakin. He was also a close mentor & choreographer for Madonna.
Got put down by Fred Berry (ReRun from What's Happening) to be a locker..@@savagelychill2858
Sad to say but we allowed others to come in and make our culture their own and write us out of it. Just look at Hip Hop and the music industry.
That is why the documentary MICROPHONE CHECK was released.....TARIQ NASHEED is RE-RELEASING it AGAIN in theaters very soon. He already has the BLUE RAY SELLING like HOT CAKES.......so its OUT IN THE WORLD. They can try all they want, they AIN'T writing US out of SHIT.
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So why the Father of Black history in Harlem is a Boricua🇵🇷 by the name of Arturo Alfonso Schomberg and the Boricuas🇵🇷 were drafted together with the AA✊🏾 in the Harlemhellfighters in 1917???
Make it make sense
Others do you have your own language, you still speak the others tongue... 😂😂
Black Americans definitely created Hip Hop and others came along after!
PERIOD.
I refuse to believe i'm the only Gen-X'r that remembers Power-Rules (puerto ricans) sticking to themselves. When I used to visit my people up top (Bx), all I heard them listening to was salsa, merengue and Joe Bataan.
lol this narrative we are one big family is a little crazy.
Most Puerto Ricans I knew growing up barely listened to Hip hop besides the main stream records. Even till this day
Growing up in Harlem NYC Born and raised 1972 Spanish and Caribbean people ostracized us black Americans true story!!!
@@444BAKARIIndeed 💯
@@jazo85Selective memory on the part of some.
Fba’s cant have nothing ..🤦🏿♂️
Yes we can and WILL..
WE TAKING BY FORCE FROM HERE ON OUT✊🏿✊🏿🖤🖤💯💯
Then we must take it my brother!
Because most times, we're giving it way to conform with other groups. Kumbaya shyt.... it's a one-way street.
Let's take financial freedom and fatherhood!!!!
Black Americans create every music genre
The most swagger-jacked people of all time...Black America is litty 🔥
Strong Message from Doggie. Respect ❤
Yo Doggie u went crazy wit the facts on this one. Great broadcast today!👏🏿✊🏿✌🏿
RUclips "The Boostedo." The facts are the facts 💯 FBA'S invented Hip-hop first. This isn't really a debate at all.
PS. Busta Rhymes is named after a Football Player named Buster Rhymes 🤣🤣🤣
We need all the Black media platforms doing this type of A1 journalism.
Tariq NASHEED covered this very well with facts and evidence!!!!
FBA STARTED HIPHOP!!!!!!!!!!!
This isn’t different from any other time an outside group either completely stole, or appropriated something we BLACK Americans created. Hip hop, Jazz, Blues, R&B, Rock n Roll, Country, techno, House, soul, etc etc. We created Hip Hop and PR/Jamaicans are just trying to appropriate and steal it. My questions are these…….. if Jamaicans mysteriously made hip hop, why haven’t they made other world renowned genres(because Reggae actually has its roots from outside of Jamaica)? If PR mysteriously made Hip Hop why haven’t they also made the same amount of world renowned genres us black Americans have made? So they just magically popped up, formed a magical coalition with us black Americans(even though both groups have always had anti black American ideologies) and made Hip hop then that was it? Also why aren’t there any traces of their culture from PR or Jamaica infused in our Hip Hop culture? From the lingo, swag, dress etc etc. Yet BLACK American culture is ALL OVER Hip Hop
be honest . did hip hop spread because it was fbas or because there was white investment ? because reggae wouldnt have went worldwide without white investment
@@ra-neter6662 you’re a TETHER and not even from America. So be honest…. Are you concerned with what’s going on in OUR country, regarding OUR history, or are you just envious and that’s why you have totally ignored worrying about YOUR history, in YOUR homeland ?
@@ra-neter6662 White investment benefited White people. The creativity and genius belong to the culture. Besides, it remains to be seen what the art form would do without that investment. Also, not everything with that investment prospered as did all the genres of FBA music. In addition, White investment typically has worked to appropriate Black Culture and put a white face on it. Nah, no credit goes to white people for Black genius.
@@ra-neter6662WTF Does that have to do with the subject matter at hand 🧐 ⁉️ Were talk'N about CREATION 😤‼️ Where's the RELEVANCE to the topic ??? But you wanna throw that out . As some stupid@$$ curve ball 😏 ! To deflect from the REAL subject matter 🙄🤦♂️😮💨 . . . . NICE TRY TETHER 🤨 ! But what else ya got 🤔❓️
Microphone check breaks all this down
Didn’t see it
Im glad you made this bro I had no idea of some of this history
Bro I appreciate your research. I believe the trending question is "who started the hip-hop culture" like I said I appreciate your research. Culture is one's way of life.
Tariq already cleared this up.
Weren't Gill Scott Herron / The Last Poets Hip Hop artist ! I would like to think so.
Also , we black Americans are so cool we invent new ways to speak. Whether it be Rhyming alla Muhammad Ali or even Rudy Ray Moore or just slang or jive talk. We are just different, in a very special and unique way !
Nope.
@@mbp333 They were Poets ! Poetry tends to have a rhyme scheme. They recited poetry to music. Now what the hell does that remind you of... sheesh....SMDH !
They are POETS; the difference between poetry & rap is that you don't necessarily have to RHYME when doing POETRY. In RAP, U DO, & U have to FLOW TO THE BEAT.
@@sslyshalom333 Yo , you're arguing semantics . I'm done, if you don't get it now hopefully you will later.
@@gerardchisolm8605 , the LAST POETS & GIL SCOTT HERON are PROGENITORS to EMCEEIN as WE know it.
I love that Doggie is providing receipts!!!! Going way back! Back in to time!
If you’ve heard that song by The Jubilaires then you know homie was SPITTING spitting
Doggie you are so absolutely right because my Mother had the record Here Comes The Judge by Pigmeat Markham. And you are correct about the Gospel group the Jubalaires!!! Black Americans created Hip-Hop and the others contributed Facts💯💯💯💯💯💯
THE TRUE FOUNDATION OF HIP HOP: Black Americans created various music genres such as Gospel, The Blues, Jubilee music, Ragtime, Jazz, Swing, Soul, R&B, Country music, Rock & Roll, Bee Bop, Doo Wop, Disco, Funk, Go Go Music, House music, Bounce, Hip Hop, Neo Soul and Techno. The breakbeats and soundscape of Hip Hop were greatly influenced by James Brown. In fact, James Brown is the most sampled artist within Hip Hop of all time. Technically, James Brown is The Godfather of Hip Hop. Respect to the legendary DJ Kool Herc. But, he was a major contributor to Hip Hop and not its creator. If a Jamaican or Puerto Rican created Hip Hop then why isn't a Jamaican or Puerto Rican artist the most sampled in Hip Hop history? Name the various phrases from Reggae, Dance hall, Jamaican patois, Salsa or Spanish lingo that were adopted by Hip Hop. Can you show any Jamaicans or Puerto Ricans rapping and break dancing in 30s and 40s prior to Hip Hop? The elements of Hip Hop started WAY before Kool Herc and WAY before 1973. Black Americans were rapping in the 1940s. Examples of this include “The Jubalaires.” Hip Hop lingo was greatly influenced by the Black American Jazz era.. Jazz terms such as Funky, Fresh, Fly, Dope, Hip, The Bomb, Boogie, Cool, Chill, Crib, Down by law, Jam, etc were adopted by Hip Hop.
It's important to note that Black Americans were holding house parties and block parties with booming systems and dancing to James Brown music back in the 1960s. Dancers would pop & lock, slide, and do splits to mimic James Brown’s style of dancing. Signature dances such as the Camel Walk, The Mash Potato, The Soul Train, The James Brown, etc were all great influences on future B-Boys and B-Girls.
DJING:
Black American DJs Disco King Mario and Grandmaster Flowers are heralded as the real founding fathers of Hip Hop. They both played James Brown & Disco breakbeats at block parties before Kool Herc. Disco King Mario got a street named after him in The Bronx by the City of New York for being one of the founding fathers of Hip Hop.
HIP HOP'S SOUTHERN ROOTS #2: Comedian Rudy Ray Moore set the precedent for mixing beats and rhymes. He is called the Godfather of Rap for helping to birth the genre. He was from Arkansas. Comedian Pigmeat Markham released the song "Here Comes The Judge" in 1968 on Chess Records. The song was a forerunner of Rap music. Mr. Markham was from Durham, North Carolina. Also, old school rapper Coke La Rock is oftentimes credited as being the first official MC in the history of Hip-hop. He was originally from North Carolina and moved to New York.
EMCING
Black American old school rapper Coke La Rock from New York City is oftentimes credited as being the first official MC in the history of Hip-hop.
GRAFFITI:
In terms of Graffiti, the 1st known modern graffiti artist went by the name of “CornBread” in the 1960s. He was a Black American from Philadelphia. "CornBread" is heralded as being the first graffiti writer.
BREAKDANCING:
Black Americans invented acrobatic dances such as Tap Dancing, The Charleston, The Lindy Hop, etc. These dances would later become major influences on breakdancing. Additionally, in 1925, Earl Tucker (aka Snake Hips), a performer at the Cotton Club, invented a dance style similar to today’s hip-hop moves. He incorporated floats and slides into his dance. Similar moves would later inspire breakdancing.
Breakdancing itself is also thought to have been inspired by the performances of James Brown, which included splits, popping and locking. According to legendary Latino break dancer Crazy Legs, there were very few Hispanic B Boys in the beginning. He said that almost all the B Boys were Afro American. Crazy Legs stated that the Latinos in the 1970's originally referred to breakdancing as Moreno Style dancing.
BREAK BEATS/HIP HOP SOUNDSCAPE:
In 1962, James Brown recorded "Live at the Apollo." Brown’s drummer Clayton F. introduced a sound that is now known as the breakbeat. The breakbeat would later inspire the b-boy movement, as breakers danced to these beats at block parties.
More importantly, in 1969 James Brown recorded two songs that would further influence the drum programming in today’s rap music: “Sex Machine” with John Starks playing drums, and “Funky Drummer” with Clyde Stubblefield on the drums.
BATTLING:
Another early and continuing influence on Hip hop culture is the Black American competitive oral competition called “playing the dozens,” which combines humorous insults and oral skills in a battle to shock and ultimately silence one’s opponent. A famous practitioner of this oratorical contest was Muhammad Ali, who used short rhymes to belittle his opponents and stupefy pundits. In hip hop the “dozens” grew into the tradition known as “battling,” in which rappers face off against each other to see who has the best lyrics and stylistic flow.
TOASTING:
Equally important, toasting was derived from the “rapping” of black American radio DJs from the 1940s through the 1960s. These Black American Djs influenced the toasting style of the Jamaican dancehall producer Coxson Dodd. Dodd took toasting to Jamaica.
BEATBOXING:
Beatboxing is the fifth element of Hip Hop. Some of the historical influences of beatboxing include scat singing out of jazz. It's a historically Black American art form in that even the scat singing in jazz owes a lot of its roots to blues. Scat singing influenced the development of doo-wop and rap and hip-hop styles. Beatboxing is a tradition of vocal percussion which originates in 1980s Hip-Hop. The first pioneer of 1980s beatbox was Darren 'Buffy' Robinson, a member of the Hip Hop crew The Fat Boys.
CALL & RESPONSE AND HIP HOP CADENCE:
Hip Hop was greatly influenced and inspired by The Black American tradition of Call and Response. This tradition grew out of the Black churches in the deep South, whereby Baptist preachers would grunt, scream, and holler to elicit a response from the congregation. Music artists, such as James Brown, used Call and Response chants and grunts in their songs. In the deep south, Call and Response chants morphed into work chants. Singing work chants helped coordinate movements and build on collective strength in harsh working conditions. Cadence calls motivate, while ensuring unit cohesion and promoting fun. One man, known as the caller, would stand aside from the crew and sing verbal instructions. His commands were answered by the men’s lining bars rapping in rhythm in a call and response manner.
The military adopted the Call and Response Cadence songs. Black American Army Private Willie Lee Duckworth Sr. (1924-2004) made up “Sound Off”, a.k.a., the “Duckworth Chant,” which is used to this day in the U.S. Army and other branches of the military. The chant later gained fame as “Sound Off” and remains one of the most popular marching cadences in Army history. Early Black American Hip Hop DJ's used the Black American tradition of Call and Response to format the beginning cadence of Hip Hop. A cadence is a rhythm, or a flow of words or music, in a sequence that is regular or steady. The "Sound off" chant greatly influenced the cadence of early Hip Hop emcees. The pioneering Hip Hop DJs used Call and Response chants and grunts to motivate, engage, inspire, and move the crowd by instructing the audience to scream, or repeat popular phrases.
The Black radio DJ is essential to the timeline. You would have to explain away DJ's like Balance Paul Faddy Johnson who also played outside in the 1960's. He has a self-titled song where he raps over the song Great Googa Mooga. You have DJ Georgie Woods who took Lionel Hampton's 1967 hit song Greasy Greens and rapped over it in 1968 called Potato Salad. You got DJ Bernie Hayes with a slew of rap records in the 1960's. You have DJ Jocko Henderson with one of his 1961 songscalled "A little bit of Everything. You got Hot Rod Hubbard and DJ Daddy Oh on the Patio from the 50's and 60's playing outdoors every day on the radio station in Winston Salem, NC. This is just some of the DJ's around the country in the 50's and 60's. I haven't even named artist like Louis Jordan. Just look on RUclips and check out his video in the 50's called It's Gotta Have a Beat. Nuff said!
*DJ Paul "Fat Daddy" Johnson
These other groups are showing there contempt for, Foundational Black Americans, that's why they can't except the truth.
This shouldn't be a conversation. Black Americans 1 Million Percent are the creators . Knock it off
you mean who created the title "hip hop" because any black person who knows anything about our past knows all the ingredients were created by black americans!
We created the title too - KEITH COWBOY & LOVEBUG STARSKI.
💯 percent agree. There is no hate, its' all love but we must get the story correct and protect the history of our Culture. It's only divisive when we do it for some odd reason. That KRS impression was on point too 😆 "Hip Hop" Peace.
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Look up buck dancing 1894. Buddy was dancing on his shoulders
Insightful video!!! Much needed
Thanks, Doggie, for speaking out about this, who created hip-hop scandal. I will be tuning in for more on this topic.
Great build! And with receipts.. this was needed.
Brother Doggie Diamonds…your thesis and presentation are spot on. Well done, Sir. 👍🏾
Keep bringing it out diamonds actual factual king!.
Very important topic❤
Enlightening thanks for sharing !
Great show
I’ve been watching a lot of platforms and I’ve concluded that most do not know the difference between RACE…ETHNICITY…..& NATIONALITY.
They know, they're just beinb obtuse. The AA ethnic group also combines all three out of necessity. This confuses people from hyperdescent cultures with static identity
🗣YOOOOO U R APPRECIATED N NEEDED THANK U BROGOD!🙌🏾🌍❤️🔥♾️
Great break down
Busta Rhymes really messed up he is a fool.
Good video and info…
WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CHRONOLOGICAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURAL HISTORY: Hip hop came directly out of The Black Power/Black Is Beautiful/ Black Arts Movement of the 1960's &1970's. This was the most culturally and politically active era in African American history. The teen contingent of the movement played out as presented on Soul Train produced by Don Cornelius beginning 1970 when the show was nationally broadcast from Chicago from 1970 to the end of 1971. He moved the show to LA, but he took several of his teen dancers with him to ensure the dance quality of the show would remain the same after the move. The TV show became our most powerful Black teen cultural influence for 36 years. Soul Train hit American popular culture like a cultural tsunami. It instantly eclipsed Dick Clark's American Bandstand in international popularity. Chicago is the capitol of African American Blues and Gospel Music. Chicago due to The Great Migration is Mississippi once removed. Chicago developed the best social dancers in Black America. Michael Jackson comes from that dance enclave. Because break dancing had been a part of the Chicago dance lexicon since the 1950's, most likely influenced by the Black dance crews seen on TV variety shows in the 1950's, the Chicago teens on Soul Train showcased break dancing as part of their dance repertoire. For the first time in or cultural history we had a national stage to spotlight Black music stars, show-off old and new Black dances, and to premiere new Black talent. Teens across this nation copied the break dancing seen on Soul Train, including The Black Spades. They sang James Brown's (who was a frequent guest on ST) "Soul Power." They personalized it by singing "Spade Power! They put their influence on break dancing to make it uniquely their own. James Brown's "Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud" was the Black teen national anthem. Those who recognize James Brown as the Godfather of hip hop, rarely mention the Black Power aspect of what he was promoting, along with other Black Protest stars like Curtis Mayfield (Movin' On Up), Nina Simone (To Be Young Gifted and Black), and Marvin Gaye (What's Goin' On album sold 2M albums in 30 days) among many others, that sparked the impetus for Black teen heightened involvement. The Black Arts Movement elevated rhyming Black Protest poets like H Rap Brown, Amiri Baraka, Sonia Sanchez, Don L. Lee aka Haki Madhubuti, The Last Poets, and Mari Evans, and Oscar Brown Jr. among others, to the forefront as the rapping voices of Black Power that politicized Black American teens. This Black teen cultural revolution was televised. Neither Puerto Ricans nor Jamaicans were singing, dancing, rapping about, nor identifying with our Black Is Beautiful/Black Power/Black Arts Movement. They still don't. Their great jealousy grew out of the international excitement generated by Black American teens dancing on national TV that did not include them. Because the broadcast came out of Chicago, not NYC, it singularly showcased Black American teens only. Soul Train is the genesis of the NYC PR and Jamaican great cultural jealousy. The emergence of The Black Spades Black Power gang culture gave PRs in the Bronx a local Black cultural expression they could cosplay in their jealous quest to leech the Black American teen international pop culture spotlight. Their desire for the same fame that Black teens had, is the reason NYC PRs in mass set aside their long-standing antipathy towards NYC African Americans in order to surreptitiously enter their ranks to gain acceptance so they could cosplay Black American dance, music and style. Five plus decades later Latinos have delusionally convinced themselves that they actually created what they effetely copied.
You spoke nothing but facts
thanks for standing up and being fearless, dd
Tried to watch the live but had too much work. But I’m here for the playback! Salute Doggie Diamonds
Thank you!! ✊🏾Salute!
Awsome video...frfr
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100% Facts!
Invention and Contribution are 2 different things. I like that old dance footage he showed. What else was before Breaking (B Boy)?
Before Hip Hop? Adolfo(Ozone) and the dance group Electric Boogaloos , Poppin and Lockin . They was on early Soul Train and SNL. Adolfo was Latino and I thought he was Black. We can't forget there are Dark Skin Latinos. We gotta stop being so divided . Brown and Black. We all speaking the Colonizer language not just Latinos. HERE COMES THE JUDGE was rappin but they wouldn't have called it Hip Hop. The Jubalaires was Gospel. Still Rappin. Hip Hop didnt invent rapping. RAPPIN Pre dates Hip Hop. But its still official. We got it from them. American Black Music.
Beat Sick.. keep it Going 💪 💪💪 Freestyle..ish
Thanks for speaking the truth
That beat is 💣💥
Yo Doggie That Intro Beat Is 🔥🔥🔥 bro i would love to hear more from you💯🫡🪖
Doggie you getting to our essence
Bless you
Watching on the playback doggie you know I gotchu 🫡
Preach Doggie Preach 💯 % agree with you..
There was a rapper on the West Coast in the 80's called Mix Master Spade his style sounded like the Jubalaires
Jus Google a song by Mix Master Spade called Jus Say No & listen to the jubalaires Noah and tell me that Mix Master Spade didnt sound like Them? And their both Black Americans...
Cuz Mexicans on the West are starting to lie to & make claims that they created West Coast Hip-Hop 😂🤣😅
Yo I remember he had a joint with King T called ya better bring a gun
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Yeah I heard it before They use to play that on 1580 K-Day back in the days....
RIP Mix Master Spade
I am from Jamaica, I grew up hearing people rhyming over the instrumentals the B sides ,but the when I heard George Clinton on a record called Tales of Kidd Funkadelic ,he was Rapping, 16 bars twice in the song .
Peace Dog 💯✌
All of the Hip Hop hits were sampled from Black America people James Brown ect and list goes on. We the Africa American people tribe of Judah started Hip Hop that’s a fact
That intro beat is 🔥
THANK YOU
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Dont forget we also created that Go Go music, Jazz and Hip-Hop music we are the trend setters for the world💯
I saw that video of the Jubalaires a few years ago and dude was spitting
You broke it down bruh!
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Crazy legs took that whole break move. W0w 💯
Do you honestly think as a young teen he saw that country bumpkin film, come on use some intelligence
U have to go south and north bronx..an get some interviews in the projects from the old cats there..they know ..PLUS QUEENS AND BROOKLYN TOO..THEY SAY KOOL HERC STORY IS MADE UP SOME OF IT..THE FLYERS AN POSTERS
I'm from the Bronx and what your saying is totally false
@@adversarytfc9864 if u say so..PROVE IT
Made up? Why?
@@kingstonson9627 CAUSE HERC KNOWS NO BODY IN AMERIKKKA WAS PLAYING JAMAICAN MUSIC LIKE THAT ONLY THEM..BLACK PEOPLE WAS PLAYING THEY MUSIC AN ROCK AN ROLL..ETC..SO HERC HAD TO FIT IN BY PLAYING AMERICAN MUSIC..
@@rasmarcusdubwise1242 I never said the music that made hip hop was Jamaican music and YES OF COURSE if your a dj your gonna play music that appeals to a particular crowd...if dj clue or flex plays a club in Memphis their gonna play SOUTHERN music..that has nothing to do with the point sir..people like cocaine dodd,king tubby,Lee "scratch" perry,etc, we're playing with electrical components and sound system equipment before ANY other DJs...that's what HERC applied from his youth in TRENCTOWN....YES when he came to the US he learned to appeal to the listener HERE..the SLANG ,dress code, etc... BUT ELEMENTS of music from all over the GLOBE were used that is a FACT..as a matter of fact if u ho back and listen to a set from any of those early hip hop djs you'll HEAR music from almost EVERY CONTINENT.....OF COURSE James Brown and funk and soul were. HUGE PART u just CANT deny the FACT other sounds were used
Black Americans with huge contributions from Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans, if it’s percentage hip hop is 15% Puerto Rican, 30% Jamaican, and 55% African American, to many Africans Americans not from NYC speaking on what they don’t know , country, southern and suburban African Americans helping destroyed it
It’s so sad that people have to go through all of this just to Speak Truth To Power to a bunch of 🤡 who can’t seem to comprehend the truth and history smh
That song just blew my mind
Thanks for the video. You were on code, bro. ✊🏿
Brother Doggie Diamonds is 100% Correct.......FBA we are the culture....it's nothing that we can turn on or turn off.....
i am absolutely disgusted by Busta's comments, thank you for clarifying and informing.
Pigmeat Markham is the Father of Rap...
Not but it definitely was a subconscious influence.
@@mbp333subconscious or not. actually I made this comment before Doggie mention the Jubilaires... The light skinned brother that's rapping. He's the father😂
Doggy you smashing it right now I would go about it exactly the same manner cuz I work with these types of people and I be on them showing them who invented and who built everything here I been on pigment
Fat Joe said "WE WERE THERE". Jus because you were there doesn't mean that you created Hip-Hop. My Wife made bl
Ulreakfast this morning French Toast, turkey sausage & scrambled eggs)
that don't mean that I helped make breakfast because I WAS THERE.Naw my wife made breakfast I was there and watched but I didnt create one dish that she made..Same thing with Hip-Hop This is why black people are gate keeping our culture and its not divisive because we won't let people lie and erase us and add themselves to something that we created..
Thats what colonizers & culture vultures do. Its very disrespectful & conniving..SMH
Cuz if we don't gate keep our culture it'll go from WE WERE THERE to Blacks & Puerto Ricans created Hip Hop 50/50 to Puerto Ricans just created Hip-Hop solo-dolo..
Black Americans dont say we created Mofongo or Jerk Chicken😂🤣😅.
I'm Cool on Fat Joe & Busta Rhymes They won't ever have to worry about me buying another thing from them...
Without a doubt, FBAs created HIPHOP. Now was HipHop created in NY by(Black Americans) or in the South by(Southern Black Americans). I'm genuinely curious.
Thank you for doing this video. We need to correct the historical record on who innovated the foundation of hip-hop
Doggy I’m from Bx River and how you started your story with Your understanding about Bam is accurate that’s how I would’ve told the story verbatim! I know Bam well
That crazy leg move is called Swipes today.. lol
Its looking like a Combination of young People from The US and The Caribbean, "In New York " invented Hip Hop .
*HIPHOP DIDN'T INVENT ANYTHING. HIPHOP REINVENTED EVERYTHING. * - GRANDMASTER CAZ
I would love to come on your platform and state my case.
You don't have a case, give it up already!!