Saying Lamar only won MVP cause of the 49ers game is disingenuous. He also balled out against the dolphins the week after. Beat the lions by 40, had an incredible record against winning teams, etc. He started a bit slow because of a new offensive coordinator but he played lights out most of the season. Sick of people saying it was unimpressive for an MVP season...
It wasn’t the 9ers game only but it was up in the air Brock and Lamar and he beat them on the road after he spanked the Lions who were also a top team, that put him over the top for a lot of people.
good point ,,, they forget that it’s a football schedule ….just like now they hype on jayden but not taking into account who jayden played …..lamar grows up and plays in the hardest division in the nfl …..always have the toughest schedule….
They forget that he led the league in TDs and Yards against teams above .500 to put it in perspective. Josh Allen only beat 3 teams above .500 and was mostly bullying tomato cans, the same as Dak dude was losing against teams .500. Lamar might have low stats, but most of those stats came against quality teams
Lamar is going to have to overcome voter fatigue. For Lamar it's not about winning it right now it's about staying in the race until all the other contenders are eliminated. He could eliminate Jaylen with a win on Sunday, Darnold could be eliminate by coming back to Earth, and Mahomes can be eliminated if Chiefs start losing a few games and Mahomes still has pedestrian stats.
@ShooterScrappy MVP is a regular season award. Learn what the awards are before trying to move goal posts. SBs have nothing to do with regular season awards bud.
Lamar being used at the measuring stick to boost Josh Allen, Joe Borrow and now Daniel’s but they don’t want to talk how that looks for Lamar instead Shady wants to use his other teammate Mahommes as MVP cuz the original pick and friend of the show Mr September MVP already fell of the ladder.
Why do Lamar fans always find a reason to complain... It's because Lamar is already solidified as a top QB and multiple time MVP. They are saying it's Daniels prove it game, which literally isn't a dig at Lamar... Wtf are you crying about??
@@Ryan-wx1bi Learn how to read. Nobody is saying a bad thing but at the same time when Lamar comes on top of that why not give him credit instead of talking about Josh Allen or Patrick Mahommes
@@Ryan-wx1biare you slow? They praying on our QB downfall and hoping and picking against him every damn week. Went from Josh is better, to I trust Burrow more , to a Rookie is gonna beat him… it’s 31 other QBs to talk about
The Baltimore offense last year was top 2 in scoring last season. Lamar had 29 total TD 100+ passer rating, and 4500 total yards. Idk why people act like Lamar’s numbers last season weren’t very good. Lamar was so dominant that he was able to sit out the last game of the season because his play helped secure a 1 seed. The bills won down the stretch last season because they started to run the ball. They stopped Allen from throwing down the field as much.
Because Lamars numbers werent very good. You see you had to say total tds and combined yards cause his passing numbers were subpar. Lamar has much room to grow in the passing game and that’s the reason his postseasons have been disappointing because teams dare him to throw to win a game to make the SB which he so far hasn’t been able to unlike Brady, Mahomes, Stafford, Purdy, Burrow to name a few recent examples.
josh allen led the league in turnovers saying he should’ve been mvp has to be the dummest take …..but mccoy like allen because mccoy use to play for the bills
The Facility doing the bending for Josh crazy. Yall want to talk about stats and bring TD last year. But how many TO did Josh Allen had? He has 26 TO 😂. And the Bills started to come back and went on the run the min they started taking the ball away from Josh Allen. He was averaging less than 150 yards per game. Lamar Jackson put 30+ on the Lions, Seahawks, 49rs, Miami. He didn’t even play the 4thQ in 3 of those games cuz he was blowing them out. Context matter. The conflict of interest in thsi show cuz they know Josh Allen is gone back is crazy
The young man doesn't need this kind of pressure. Stop it already 😡 He's a rookie on a bad team 😁The problem is that he's so skinny one good hit will take him out of the game at the worst time😡
Right, the bills fought for a playoff spot last year. Lamar never fought for a playoff spot. Even in the 2 years he was injured, he had his team 1st in the division. Allen fans are praising how he hasn't turned it over yet 😂
@@melaninknowledge365821 players were in IR his Record was 8-3 before he got injured his numbers were disgusting 16 TDs-15 Int but he was superman with a corpse of desean as his wr1 🤣
If you play you know they don’t have to be students of the game to be good lol. It’s why i hate when people act like when they speak, it’s the gospel …Brett Favre did not know what a nickel defense was in year 3 of being an NFL starter . Some dudes just play and not watch fr …
We gotta stop this narrative “if this Qb beats this Qb” They don’t play each other!! This is not an individual sport it’s a team sport!! 22 players on the field at a time and so much goes in to play in the TEAM winning
Facts. Burrow didn't lose to Lamar or Jayden. He balled out... But lost. If Lamar or Jayden lost, I wouldn't blame either of them. When a defense gives up 35+ there is only so much a QB can do
The only way that narrative even could have any credence at all and it still doesnt is if both teams defenses are almost the exact same in stats like for example if Daniels going against Raven D and they are #1 defense and Lamar going against a close #2 Commanders D (i know they arent just for the example) then MAYBE you could use that narrative or logic but i still dont like it in that scenario either. You can only talk about who played better than who and even then the defenses they play against matters.
Lamar won MVP last year when he won at San Francisco late in the season..Everyone knew he was the MVP as soon that game was over. Even the commentators were saying “Lamar is now the front runner for MVP” thats just how the award is… and always will be.
You think you can beat 10 playoff teams with ok Qb play? He had 4499 total yards and 29 touchdowns go look at how many touchdowns gus Edward’s had inside the 5 they could’ve boosted his stats like Josh Allen and had him run it or pass it but they didn’t
@@blkheart9971 2-4 in the playoffs with 6:6 td INT ratio. He’s the reason they lose in the playoffs. He can’t elevate his play in the playoffs. Can’t read defenses and is not accurate in the playoffs against playoff teams. He’s better than Josh Allen for sure though. Not burrow or mahomes
@@Gman-v9y people have this fairytale belief that the regular season is easy and in the playoffs teams suddenly wanna win more. That’s false every single time lamar has made the playoffs his coaching has failed him
Shady was claiming Josh Allen all September for his boy Josh Allen and now it’s October and his boy is back to mid season form now he wants to run to his other former teammate Patrick Mahomes. 😂
Yes but in reverse what would that do to Lamar Jackson? -Beating last year All Pro second team and second in the MVP Dak Prescott -Then beating the media darling friend of the show, Mr can’t do nothin wrong, Mr even if he goes 9/30 for whopping 130 yards we flip the script and blame everybody Josh Allen. -Then went to Joe borrow house and then end their season. Beat the dude they put top 3 player -Now beating the hottest QB in the leage. What does it say?
Nothing, Lamar win they will gloss over it, Lamar was blowing teams out last year, playoffs teams like 49ers, Lions, Seahawks, Dolphins ect but they don’t talk bout it that’s not the narrative
Lamar won the MVP against MIA by having a perfect passer rating. This show has turned into the Lamar hate show. People who say that Lamar didn’t go crazy last year watched zero games outside of prime time games.
@@bankslaw8900 2-4 in the playoffs with 6:6 td INT ratio. He’s not great in the playoffs. Only in the regular season. Play falls off a cliff when the playoffs start. 0 multiple win playoff runs. 0 afc championships. 1 afc championship appearance due to bye week and playing inferior Houston team. The dude his fools gold
@@Gman-v9y stop it. Trying to discredit his win and glaze over the fact that they are playing one of the 4 best teams in the playoffs because Lamar often has a bye. But against HOU no other QB in the reg or playoffs has ever threw 2TD and rush for 2 while rushing for more than 100 and a Qbr over 100.
@@bankslaw8900 2-4 with 6;6 td int ratio. No matter what you say he can’t escape that record or playoff woes. He’s generationally bad in the playoffs. He will go crazy all regular season and won’t win more than one game per playoff run or he would have multiple win playoff runs already with that great defense and offensive line.
Not even a Washington fan but Jayden is truly on a different level in terms of what we thought was possible for a rookie qb , if Jayden keeps balling out and even wins this Sunday… I think Lamar wins mvp
😂 if Derrick Henry stays on the same pace he's on, he and Lamar will steal votes from each other. If Jayden wins the division and wins 11-12 games then Jayden gonna be in the mix. Top 2 in mvp votes
@@drewrob262 Lamar is 2-4 in the playoffs with 6:6 td INT ratio. Sit down. Lamar isn’t even better than burrow let alone mahomes. Get out of here. Lamar is amazing regular season and then garbage in the playoffs. Difference between mahomes and Lamar is winnings reading defenses, brain, arm talent vs Lamar can run fast. Thats it
A QB who has 6 TD’s and 6 INT’s in the MvP conversation is crazy to me. The Chief’s are 5-0 because of that defense. This narrative that whichever team wins give all the credit to the QB is crazy. How can you say Mahomes is not paying well but they’re 5-0 so he needs to be the MVP? lol
Last season Ravens were dominating their opponents winning by a WIIIDE margin. Lamar sat out the 4th quarter in at least two games, possibly more. Also their strong running game and high goal-line efficiency skewed Lamar’s td numbers. They never give full context on these shows, just go straight to stats and numbers. Allen threw so many picks last year but that’s never brought up
@@jeffm1083 right just look at this season the nfl might as well say the l in nfl stands for lamar…..all the good games and prime time games this season have been the ravens ….
@@mattperry5789 and took an L ....did I say something wrong ...Burrow is 1-4 thus far regardless of his stats ...The main stat we look at is wins and losses ... 🎯
@@CoachRJ334 Lamar can only win in the regular season 2-4 in the playoffs with 6:6 td INT ratio. He’s hot garbage when the playoffs start. When things actually matter
Lamar definitely looked like an mvp the whole year… he blew out so many great teams… scored 30+ on almost everyone they played lmao… was throwing dimes. Idk what shady is talking about. Allen couldn’t get it cause he was 5-5 Purdy and CMC were splitting votes Hill was splitting votes with tua but he was amazing and was my runner up.. Lamar had the record he had the performances against the higher quality of opponents than anyone in the mvp list…
@@Gman-v9y MVP is a regular season award genius and he whooped the Texans lost to the current dynasty of the league without running the ball which is the ravens entire offensive identity
I’m not seeing the MVP numbers for Daniels, I’m sorry. His best stat line is his pass percentage, but he barely has any pass TDs and hasn’t beaten a good team/defense yet. Ravens win and breaks the media’s heart like they did last year with the 49ers. 34-20.
A QB cannot face a QB. Illogical. Leave Lamar alone, he’s not the status quo nor is any QB. A QB goes against the defensive team and leader of the opposing team. Whoever has the better defense, their opposing QB will have a tougher game than their QB regardless of what team is better. Extremely useless statistic. One QB will always out perform another and his supporting cast in weapons make his job easier. You’re a very lucky man to have Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to throw to. That will give a Super Bowl if your defense can get you on the field. You would have to give every QB the same offense and put them vs the same defense 1 to 1 scale, in order to judge QB vs QB logically… and everyone on a team is different this isn’t a video game.
Dont let this show fool you . Lamar won the MVP last year because of the toughness of the opponents he played against and him winning every game they said the ravens was the underdog. The Ravens beat every last team these guys where rooting for.
Lamar went crazy last year. People forget he beat Detroit by 30, put up 56 on the dolphins, beat Houston twice, and beat SF when they had two MVP candidates.
@@KingTayvess and they are 2-4 in the playoffs. Lamar goes 6:6 td to INT ratio in the playoffs when games actually matter. When they play playoff teams in the playoffs Lamar is 2-4. Regular season stats are fools gold just like the MVPs. He isn’t smart enough or accurate enough to be successful in the playoffs. Can’t read playoff defenses in the playoffs. When all the lights are the brightest. He chokes. Can’t ignore that
@@Gman-v9yyou can have your opinion that’s cool but none of the top guys besides mahomes under 30 has a ring. I agree he needs to play better in the playoffs but there’s context to it. Some of it on coaching & not sticking to identity, some on Lamar, some on the supporting cast not making plays (7 drops vs titans 2019). He was hurt tail end of 21’ and 22’.. also, Two 1st seed byes which some of those games could’ve possibly been wins. Definitely would have more playoff wins under his belt with 4+ more games. Takes more than Lamar though need everyone collectively to be on point to win those games.
Yeah of course this is the headline 😂 man yall just won’t stop!!!! Bet when the Commanders get blown out yall gonna have a 5 minute segment saying Jaden is a rookie and needs time to gel and move the on to the next QB to use a proxy to discredit Lamar Jackson Can’t blame yall it brings the clicks
Idk why Shady wanna die on the hill of Allen having a better season than Lamar did last year when that’s just false😂 Then he keeps brining up stats but don’t want to bring up his TURNOVER stats 😂🤦🏾♂️
Shady is a liar. The Buffalo Bills started to win at the end of last year when they ran the ball, not because of josh. Lamar at the end embarrassed the front runners after the 49ers he put up 5td on the dolphins.
What I like about Jayden Daniels is he seems to not be phased by all the hype. He shys away from the hype and downplays it whenever the media ask him about it. He’s different.
Another thing who has the commanders played? Is this week 16 or 6. The commanders lost to the only playoff team they played . Let’s pump the breaks on JD and commandos
They have played Tampa Bay, Bengals, Browns, Cardinals, and Giants. The only team they have played so far that is decent (Tampa Bay) this year the Commanders pretty much got blown out. I’m not buying into the Commanders hype. Go Ravens!!!
Thank you for Acho telling the truth. QB play was down because of the match coverages and simulated pressures. Defenses adjusted with a vengeance. LJ costed his team the least in conjunction with improved/ altered defensive play and clutch plays when needed. That year was what it was. A bulked up LJ adjusted better than Josh in terms of efficiency. Acho knows how to talk a lot, but at least he can properly describe the context of why LJ’s Favre like MVP season was still special.
Damn shady lying about getting haircuts? Goofy behavior. I respect his stats and shady is funny but we not rocking with liars. Kick him off and bring back Joy
How can Jayden be the front runner if he beats Lamar but they don't even have Lamar as the front runner??? 😂😂😂 Acho's questions for these segments doesn't make any sense! Jayden needs to beat the ACTUAL front runner to be the "front runner" for MVP! Beating Lamar would only make him in second place for MVP by their assessment since Mahomes is the leading MVP candidate?😂😂😂
To the people who don't understand. Lamar mainly won MVP last year because of his record and stats vs good teams/dominant win vs purdy and the 49ers. Dak put up great stats vs garbage teams like he always does and then is mid vs good teams.
Comparing a 7 or 8 year vet in Lamar to a rookie who has only played 5 NFL games is completely unfair to Jayden Daniels. Jayden is far, far ahead of where Lamar was 5 games in. He already is an elite thrower which is incredible. Lamar wasn't even close to Daniels in his rookie year. It was 1 read and run. Of course Jayden is gonna have down times as all young players do. Let's revisit this comparison in a couple seasons. I'd take Jayden all day, everyday. We finally got our guy. HTTR!
They talk about lamar only having 26 passing tds last year but doesnt account for him getting them down the field for gus to 13+ tds. Lamar is always the best player on the field. So him winning mvp was bound to happen again.
Shadys last comment was something like, you could be the best player in the league but your team lose every game and then you’re not mvp… but MVP isn’t just asking the best player, although that’s a component, it’s the most valuable; and if you are the best player in the league but can’t will your team to victory then you may not be the most “valuable” player in the league because all though your the best at your position, it wasn’t enough to influence the outcome of the game. Record is always going to come into play because the question isn’t who’s the best in the leagues it is who was the most valuable to their team, and part of measuring impact to a team is the team record.
Shady saying josh rallied his team to the playoffs like he wasnt the reason they were losing. And when the bills went on that run the bills had the lowest percentage of pass plays in the league
Lamar 2023 season: 24TDs passes 7ints led his team to a 13-3 season finished 1st seed Josh 2023 season: 29TDs passes 18ints Put his team in a 6-6 hole and had the OC take the football out of his hands, led the team to a 10-6 record finished 2nd seed
Even if I accept Acho's crazy voting bloc, it's too early to be saying ANYONE is MVP in Week 6. Lamar has plenty of weeks to do even more crazy stuff before the season is over. Either way, I don't think Daniels will be coming up with the win on Sunday. McCoy always caping for Josh Allen. More electrifying than Lamar? FOH. McCoy "Josh shoulda won that" is complete BS. Stats are the final refuge of the loser.
Comeback player of the year should be a person who turned it around, not a person that got injured unless the player came back from a season ending injury then balled out
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Saying Lamar only won MVP cause of the 49ers game is disingenuous. He also balled out against the dolphins the week after. Beat the lions by 40, had an incredible record against winning teams, etc. He started a bit slow because of a new offensive coordinator but he played lights out most of the season. Sick of people saying it was unimpressive for an MVP season...
Dont forget the seahawks. Last season, Lamar beaten the most teams that were over 500.
It wasn’t the 9ers game only but it was up in the air Brock and Lamar and he beat them on the road after he spanked the Lions who were also a top team, that put him over the top for a lot of people.
The dolphins literally never beat a winning team last year 😭
good point ,,, they forget that it’s a football schedule ….just like now they hype on jayden but not taking into account who jayden played …..lamar grows up and plays in the hardest division in the nfl …..always have the toughest schedule….
They forget that he led the league in TDs and Yards against teams above .500 to put it in perspective. Josh Allen only beat 3 teams above .500 and was mostly bullying tomato cans, the same as Dak dude was losing against teams .500. Lamar might have low stats, but most of those stats came against quality teams
Why is Lamar always the measuring stick for every other qb? I don’t get it
Because he's the standard of what a dual threat QB should look like one of the greats 👑
It’s because he’s great and polarizing at the same time. He brings engagement. He’ll go down as the greatest dual threat of all time.
Right! Why keep measuring QBs to a losing qb that always chokes in the playoffs
@@ZsucioDid he choke vs the Texans in the Divisional Round?
@@Zsucio name a quarterback other than Patrick mahomes that is better or has better accolades than lamar right now
They say Jayden Daniel's is the front runner if he beats Lamar but don't have Lamar as the front runner right now is crazy work
They do have Lamar as the front runner. Shady is the one that said Mahomes
Lamar is going to have to overcome voter fatigue. For Lamar it's not about winning it right now it's about staying in the race until all the other contenders are eliminated. He could eliminate Jaylen with a win on Sunday, Darnold could be eliminate by coming back to Earth, and Mahomes can be eliminated if Chiefs start losing a few games and Mahomes still has pedestrian stats.
@@truthbearer7891na lol it’s about winning the SB atp. Lamar with a 3rd mvp is amazing but he doesn’t need it
@@anthonykelly6524 He beat Burrow the golden boy that they all love ....
@ShooterScrappy MVP is a regular season award. Learn what the awards are before trying to move goal posts. SBs have nothing to do with regular season awards bud.
Lamar being used at the measuring stick to boost Josh Allen, Joe Borrow and now Daniel’s but they don’t want to talk how that looks for Lamar instead Shady wants to use his other teammate Mahommes as MVP cuz the original pick and friend of the show Mr September MVP already fell of the ladder.
Bro it’s getting sickening
Why do Lamar fans always find a reason to complain... It's because Lamar is already solidified as a top QB and multiple time MVP.
They are saying it's Daniels prove it game, which literally isn't a dig at Lamar... Wtf are you crying about??
@@Ryan-wx1bi Learn how to read. Nobody is saying a bad thing but at the same time when Lamar comes on top of that why not give him credit instead of talking about Josh Allen or Patrick Mahommes
@@Ryan-wx1bihe talking about Shady brining up mvp for last year. Basically like he harping that Lamar didn’t deserve it
@@Ryan-wx1biare you slow? They praying on our QB downfall and hoping and picking against him every damn week. Went from Josh is better, to I trust Burrow more , to a Rookie is gonna beat him… it’s 31 other QBs to talk about
The Baltimore offense last year was top 2 in scoring last season. Lamar had 29 total TD 100+ passer rating, and 4500 total yards. Idk why people act like Lamar’s numbers last season weren’t very good. Lamar was so dominant that he was able to sit out the last game of the season because his play helped secure a 1 seed. The bills won down the stretch last season because they started to run the ball. They stopped Allen from throwing down the field as much.
🤫They dont want type of narrative to get out there
Because Lamars numbers werent very good. You see you had to say total tds and combined yards cause his passing numbers were subpar. Lamar has much room to grow in the passing game and that’s the reason his postseasons have been disappointing because teams dare him to throw to win a game to make the SB which he so far hasn’t been able to unlike Brady, Mahomes, Stafford, Purdy, Burrow to name a few recent examples.
@@WellWhyNot-lj8uf just say you don't know what you're talking about...
@@ezekwu nope cause so far I’ve been right.
josh allen led the league in turnovers saying he should’ve been mvp has to be the dummest take …..but mccoy like allen because mccoy use to play for the bills
Every time Lamar goes up against a QB that they like, they always pick against Lamar.😂
It’s the narrative. Gotta have something to talk about even if you are dead wrong💀💀
@@laudymadecam9467No because lamar is a regular king
@@lososcotti926everyone is except Mahomes
@@lososcotti926but we in the regular season so that still doesnt explain it
@@criminalle88Ago
The Facility doing the bending for Josh crazy. Yall want to talk about stats and bring TD last year. But how many TO did Josh Allen had? He has 26 TO 😂. And the Bills started to come back and went on the run the min they started taking the ball away from Josh Allen. He was averaging less than 150 yards per game. Lamar Jackson put 30+ on the Lions, Seahawks, 49rs, Miami. He didn’t even play the 4thQ in 3 of those games cuz he was blowing them out. Context matter. The conflict of interest in thsi show cuz they know Josh Allen is gone back is crazy
The young man doesn't need this kind of pressure. Stop it already 😡 He's a rookie on a bad team 😁The problem is that he's so skinny one good hit will take him out of the game at the worst time😡
Right, the bills fought for a playoff spot last year. Lamar never fought for a playoff spot. Even in the 2 years he was injured, he had his team 1st in the division. Allen fans are praising how he hasn't turned it over yet 😂
@@melaninknowledge365821 players were in IR his Record was 8-3 before he got injured his numbers were disgusting 16 TDs-15 Int but he was superman with a corpse of desean as his wr1 🤣
Don’t do that 😂😂😂
Even if you don’t count the fumbles, Josh Allen still had 18 interceptions
These 4 athletes are an outstanding example of how, just because you Played the game, doesn't mean you're an expert on it.
If you play you know they don’t have to be students of the game to be good lol. It’s why i hate when people act like when they speak, it’s the gospel …Brett Favre did not know what a nickel defense was in year 3 of being an NFL starter . Some dudes just play and not watch fr …
They can be experts unless they are not being biased or trying to push an agenda!
Yall really use Lamar to hype up every other Qb its sad
Arguing about the MVP in week 6 is sooooooo dumb. Lmao
I said the same thing!!! Crazy!! Ain't even half way through yet!
It's better than talking about the Cowboys and KC Kelce and Taylor Swift for 70% of every show all day
😂😂James pointing out Shadys haircut was HILARIOUS 🤣 1:30
We gotta stop this narrative “if this Qb beats this Qb” They don’t play each other!! This is not an individual sport it’s a team sport!! 22 players on the field at a time and so much goes in to play in the TEAM winning
Facts. Burrow didn't lose to Lamar or Jayden. He balled out... But lost. If Lamar or Jayden lost, I wouldn't blame either of them. When a defense gives up 35+ there is only so much a QB can do
@@Ryan-wx1biit’s was more so chase who balled out vs the ravens than burrow
The only way that narrative even could have any credence at all and it still doesnt is if both teams defenses are almost the exact same in stats like for example if Daniels going against Raven D and they are #1 defense and Lamar going against a close #2 Commanders D (i know they arent just for the example) then MAYBE you could use that narrative or logic but i still dont like it in that scenario either. You can only talk about who played better than who and even then the defenses they play against matters.
MVP is an individual award in a sense, but obviously when QB’s win MVP 99% of the time they ALL thank their O Line 🤣
Lamar won MVP last year when he won at San Francisco late in the season..Everyone knew he was the MVP as soon that game was over. Even the commentators were saying “Lamar is now the front runner for MVP” thats just how the award is… and always will be.
That man said Joe Flacco came back from being Sorry, Joe was never sorry he just came back from his couch
Ravens missed the playoffs for 6 years straight with Joe and he did not play well on the Jets
I feel like people forget Lamar won unanimous MVP his FIRST year as a starer with some sorry offensive players
You think you can beat 10 playoff teams with ok Qb play? He had 4499 total yards and 29 touchdowns go look at how many touchdowns gus Edward’s had inside the 5 they could’ve boosted his stats like Josh Allen and had him run it or pass it but they didn’t
@@blkheart9971 2-4 in the playoffs with 6:6 td INT ratio. He’s the reason they lose in the playoffs. He can’t elevate his play in the playoffs. Can’t read defenses and is not accurate in the playoffs against playoff teams. He’s better than Josh Allen for sure though. Not burrow or mahomes
@@Gman-v9y people have this fairytale belief that the regular season is easy and in the playoffs teams suddenly wanna win more. That’s false every single time lamar has made the playoffs his coaching has failed him
Exactly!!!!! And Josh Allen had toooo many turnovers!!!
@@Gman-v9yWhat does that have to do with Lamar’s MVP season?
Why they keep doing this with Lamar?
What they do? They just said if Jayden wins he’s the front runner. They literally said Lamar is on God mode rn. I don’t see nun wrong
I’m surprised the NFL doesn’t try to push Lamar as their golden boy instead of Mahomes considering how much media outlets use his name for clicks.
Facts😂
@@greycloudnine he doesn’t win enough in the playoffs. 2-4 6:6 td INT ratio when the whole world is watching. He’s not that guy in the playoffs.
He didnt stay for the after party.
Shady was claiming Josh Allen all September for his boy Josh Allen and now it’s October and his boy is back to mid season form now he wants to run to his other former teammate Patrick Mahomes. 😂
Shady Lamar missed ONE VOTE from being an UNANIMOUS MVP AGAIN.😮
He a Lamar hater bro
Luckily for Shady, Mahomes owns Lamar😂🤣
Josh Allen back to default settings after diggs 😂😂
Yes but in reverse what would that do to Lamar Jackson?
-Beating last year All Pro second team and second in the MVP Dak Prescott
-Then beating the media darling friend of the show, Mr can’t do nothin wrong, Mr even if he goes 9/30 for whopping 130 yards we flip the script and blame everybody Josh Allen.
-Then went to Joe borrow house and then end their season. Beat the dude they put top 3 player
-Now beating the hottest QB in the leage. What does it say?
Nothing, Lamar win they will gloss over it, Lamar was blowing teams out last year, playoffs teams like 49ers, Lions, Seahawks, Dolphins ect but they don’t talk bout it that’s not the narrative
It would say about as much as if he got beat and outplayed by a bad qb that was then Benched 2 weeks later
@@600flo4 What did he do in the playoffs? Thats the issue, no one said Lamar is a bad QB. He underperforms in the playoffs.
@@600flo4bro they damn near didn’t wanna give him the MVP after dog walking the 49ers AND dolphins
@AilmanF2P Are we in the playoffs though? No. This is the regular season. What does the playoffs have to do with right now?
Lamar won the MVP against MIA by having a perfect passer rating.
This show has turned into the Lamar hate show. People who say that Lamar didn’t go crazy last year watched zero games outside of prime time games.
@@bankslaw8900 2-4 in the playoffs with 6:6 td INT ratio. He’s not great in the playoffs. Only in the regular season. Play falls off a cliff when the playoffs start. 0 multiple win playoff runs. 0 afc championships. 1 afc championship appearance due to bye week and playing inferior Houston team. The dude his fools gold
@@Gman-v9yidk if you know this or not but… mvp is a regular season award buddy.
@@dejuanamcarthur8520but lamar plays both and they are discussing lamar as a player not just as a regular season player
@@Gman-v9y stop it. Trying to discredit his win and glaze over the fact that they are playing one of the 4 best teams in the playoffs because Lamar often has a bye.
But against HOU no other QB in the reg or playoffs has ever threw 2TD and rush for 2 while rushing for more than 100 and a Qbr over 100.
@@bankslaw8900 2-4 with 6;6 td int ratio. No matter what you say he can’t escape that record or playoff woes. He’s generationally bad in the playoffs. He will go crazy all regular season and won’t win more than one game per playoff run or he would have multiple win playoff runs already with that great defense and offensive line.
Acho picking somebody over Lamar how surprising😂
Not even a Washington fan but Jayden is truly on a different level in terms of what we thought was possible for a rookie qb , if Jayden keeps balling out and even wins this Sunday… I think Lamar wins mvp
😂 if Derrick Henry stays on the same pace he's on, he and Lamar will steal votes from each other. If Jayden wins the division and wins 11-12 games then Jayden gonna be in the mix. Top 2 in mvp votes
The difference between Lamar and Patrick is a toe literally
Pat always wins..difference is hes better. Doesnt play for greatness jus to do 1 more than lamar
Lamar also lost to the Ravens. I'd be trying to forget and never mention it too
@@drewrob262 Lamar is 2-4 in the playoffs with 6:6 td INT ratio. Sit down. Lamar isn’t even better than burrow let alone mahomes. Get out of here.
Lamar is amazing regular season and then garbage in the playoffs. Difference between mahomes and Lamar is winnings reading defenses, brain, arm talent vs Lamar can run fast. Thats it
@@Gman-v9yterminate your account
Lamar wont have 15 playoff wins in his career. He’d be lucky to reach 10. Lamar mahomes is like comparing curry and westbrook.
A QB who has 6 TD’s and 6 INT’s in the MvP conversation is crazy to me. The Chief’s are 5-0 because of that defense. This narrative that whichever team wins give all the credit to the QB is crazy. How can you say Mahomes is not paying well but they’re 5-0 so he needs to be the MVP? lol
Exactly! If that was Lamar’s stats they’d say that the team was winning despite Lamar!
Last season Ravens were dominating their opponents winning by a WIIIDE margin. Lamar sat out the 4th quarter in at least two games, possibly more. Also their strong running game and high goal-line efficiency skewed Lamar’s td numbers. They never give full context on these shows, just go straight to stats and numbers. Allen threw so many picks last year but that’s never brought up
Lamar has always been more electrifying then Josh Allen hence 2 MVPs to his zero
Stats wise Allen is better. However lamar knows how to lead his team to victory. That's the difference
@@RD-mq8ocJosh consistently leads and is anong the top 3 in the league in Turnovers. 21 last year
@@RD-mq8ocwhat what stats? Interceptions? Do you need me to post the accolades, kid? It's a reason lamar has 2 mvps to Allen 0 😂
POSTSEASON STATS
Josh Allen: 64.6% 2723 yds 21 tds 4 ints.
Lamar Jackson: 57.4% 1324 yds 6 tds 6 ints.
These are just the passing stats btw josh also has him in rushing in the playoffs too
Y’all know damn well they’re not allowing a rookie to win MVP
If he keeps winning it’s nothing “they” can do
First time for everything
Lamar was 1 vote from being unanimous... even had the vote of the goat. Shady questioning the voting explains why he shouldnt be a voter at all
Josh was playing so good last year he got his oc fired mid season
9:05 Allen was more electrifying than Lamar last year? He’s smoking dust
@@jeffm1083 right just look at this season the nfl might as well say the l in nfl stands for lamar…..all the good games and prime time games this season have been the ravens ….
He beat Burrow your Golden Boy so he doesn't gain anything beating Lamar the other QB y'all constantly bash each week ...🎯
On Me ! This the third straight week they praying for somebody to beat Lamar
Burrow had 5 TDs. Ppl need to stop making wins and losses an individual stat
@@mattperry5789 and took an L ....did I say something wrong ...Burrow is 1-4 thus far regardless of his stats ...The main stat we look at is wins and losses ... 🎯
@@CoachRJ334 Lamar can only win in the regular season 2-4 in the playoffs with 6:6 td INT ratio. He’s hot garbage when the playoffs start. When things actually matter
@@Gman-v9y Make sure you have that same energy when Burrow doesn't make the playoffs 🎯
Shady hate on Lamar so much than his favorite line is “Imma Lamar Jackson Fan “ shut up ‼️‼️
I was just saying that. Bruh has never said anything great about Lamar on camera other than “I’m a fan BUT”
These dudes have a different energy on Friday 😂
Probably the best segment this show has done so far. Props.
Lamar definitely looked like an mvp the whole year… he blew out so many great teams… scored 30+ on almost everyone they played lmao… was throwing dimes. Idk what shady is talking about.
Allen couldn’t get it cause he was 5-5
Purdy and CMC were splitting votes
Hill was splitting votes with tua but he was amazing and was my runner up..
Lamar had the record he had the performances against the higher quality of opponents than anyone in the mvp list…
@@unknownmlg4041 what happened in the playoffs to justify that mvp? 2-4 record 6:6 td INT ratio
@@Gman-v9y MVP is a regular season award genius and he whooped the Texans lost to the current dynasty of the league without running the ball which is the ravens entire offensive identity
I’m not seeing the MVP numbers for Daniels, I’m sorry. His best stat line is his pass percentage, but he barely has any pass TDs and hasn’t beaten a good team/defense yet. Ravens win and breaks the media’s heart like they did last year with the 49ers. 34-20.
A QB cannot face a QB. Illogical. Leave Lamar alone, he’s not the status quo nor is any QB.
A QB goes against the defensive team and leader of the opposing team. Whoever has the better defense, their opposing QB will have a tougher game than their QB regardless of what team is better.
Extremely useless statistic. One QB will always out perform another and his supporting cast in weapons make his job easier. You’re a very lucky man to have Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to throw to.
That will give a Super Bowl if your defense can get you on the field. You would have to give every QB the same offense and put them vs the same defense 1 to 1 scale, in order to judge QB vs QB logically…
and everyone on a team is different this isn’t a video game.
They always try to find ways to discredit lamar
Dont let this show fool you . Lamar won the MVP last year because of the toughness of the opponents he played against and him winning every game they said the ravens was the underdog. The Ravens beat every last team these guys where rooting for.
Lamar went crazy last year. People forget he beat Detroit by 30, put up 56 on the dolphins, beat Houston twice, and beat SF when they had two MVP candidates.
Josh lead the league in INT’s last ur
Hey I’m sure you guys looked it up and purposely did not mention but JOSH ALLEN HAD 21 TURNOVERS LAST YEAR…. 21.. 18 being INTERCEPTIONS
Honestly i think Acho defended his voting process pretty well, and the rest of the guys even agreed.
LAMAR AND THE RAVENS WHERE 10-0 vs playoff teams LAMAR OFFENSE IS ALWAYS TOP FIVE IN SCORING
@@KingTayvess and they are 2-4 in the playoffs. Lamar goes 6:6 td to INT ratio in the playoffs when games actually matter. When they play playoff teams in the playoffs Lamar is 2-4. Regular season stats are fools gold just like the MVPs. He isn’t smart enough or accurate enough to be successful in the playoffs. Can’t read playoff defenses in the playoffs. When all the lights are the brightest. He chokes. Can’t ignore that
@@Gman-v9yyou can have your opinion that’s cool but none of the top guys besides mahomes under 30 has a ring. I agree he needs to play better in the playoffs but there’s context to it. Some of it on coaching & not sticking to identity, some on Lamar, some on the supporting cast not making plays (7 drops vs titans 2019). He was hurt tail end of 21’ and 22’.. also, Two 1st seed byes which some of those games could’ve possibly been wins. Definitely would have more playoff wins under his belt with 4+ more games. Takes more than Lamar though need everyone collectively to be on point to win those games.
Ocho I love this take. The other guys judging with there feelings.
Why are people talking about MVP? There are like 17 regular season games to be played, they're only like 5 games in.
Lamar, burrow, & Purdy are the top 3 qb so far this year as for the numbers
Great honest respectable assessment for mvp voting
Yeah of course this is the headline 😂 man yall just won’t stop!!!!
Bet when the Commanders get blown out yall gonna have a 5 minute segment saying Jaden is a rookie and needs time to gel and move the on to the next QB to use a proxy to discredit Lamar Jackson
Can’t blame yall it brings the clicks
Hahhahahha😂😂😂😂 james in a good mood love it!
Worth noting: Jayden doesn't play against Lamar. He's playing the Ravens D. So voting based on the "head-to-head" is nonsense
Why Alfred had to catch a stray?😂
He was cold asl too like wyf he talking bout 😂
I didnt think Jayden was gonna be good i want to apologize to him and D.C 💪🏾
💯💯👍👍
Idk why Shady wanna die on the hill of Allen having a better season than Lamar did last year when that’s just false😂 Then he keeps brining up stats but don’t want to bring up his TURNOVER stats 😂🤦🏾♂️
4TD 2INTs STOP IT!!!!
11:42 did Shady just call him "Fatty" 😂😂😂😂 Fatrick Mahomes not being the allegations 😭
Shady is a liar. The Buffalo Bills started to win at the end of last year when they ran the ball, not because of josh. Lamar at the end embarrassed the front runners after the 49ers he put up 5td on the dolphins.
"I always looking good Chase, PAUSED!" - Shady 💀
I'm looking forward to this match up. Go Commanders 💯🔥🔥🔥🏆💪🏿
What I like about Jayden Daniels is he seems to not be phased by all the hype. He shys away from the hype and downplays it whenever the media ask him about it. He’s different.
Another thing who has the commanders played? Is this week 16 or 6. The commanders lost to the only playoff team they played . Let’s pump the breaks on JD and commandos
They have played Tampa Bay, Bengals, Browns, Cardinals, and Giants. The only team they have played so far that is decent (Tampa Bay) this year the Commanders pretty much got blown out. I’m not buying into the Commanders hype. Go Ravens!!!
This isn’t a hard convo rn Patty is playing mediocre.
Last year Lamar played well. Tye numbers super crazy.
And every year is different
LMAOOOOO @13:00 He was talking about Rob Parker 😭😭
Shady lame for getting a cut 😂😂😂
He not beating Lamar though
Yes he will...but lamar wins the superbowl and mvp.
Shady needs to quit with the Josh Allen stuff like dam bro.
😂😂
I just love this show🤣🤣🤣🤣
Josh was among the Top in the league in turnovers last year
Jayden Daniels looks like a "Genrational Talent".........................................
I hate when shady keep talking about Allen throw 18 interceptions 😂😂😂ridiculous 😂
Thank you for Acho telling the truth. QB play was down because of the match coverages and simulated pressures. Defenses adjusted with a vengeance. LJ costed his team the least in conjunction with improved/ altered defensive play and clutch plays when needed. That year was what it was. A bulked up LJ adjusted better than Josh in terms of efficiency. Acho knows how to talk a lot, but at least he can properly describe the context of why LJ’s Favre like MVP season was still special.
Wounder if Acho remember that Patrick Mahomes already beat Lamar Jackson for the season 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is so stupid. The QB's don't play each other. So just stop. They play against the defense.
Shady saying he's not big on stats is the biggest joke anybody has made on this show 😂😂😂
1:32 😂😂😂😂 yoooooo
After 5 games we talking MVP 🤦🏿♂️
Thanks for the upload!
So when Lamar destroy the commanders , he is automatic the MVP ON ALL YOU TALKING HEADS UNINTELLIGENT PUNDITS BOARD
Damn shady lying about getting haircuts? Goofy behavior. I respect his stats and shady is funny but we not rocking with liars. Kick him off and bring back Joy
How can Jayden be the front runner if he beats Lamar but they don't even have Lamar as the front runner??? 😂😂😂 Acho's questions for these segments doesn't make any sense! Jayden needs to beat the ACTUAL front runner to be the "front runner" for MVP! Beating Lamar would only make him in second place for MVP by their assessment since Mahomes is the leading MVP candidate?😂😂😂
"And I'm a Lamar Jackson FAN!" - a former RB that is NOT a Lamar Jackson fan
Like yall not mention one stat of Josh Allen.
This will be such a fun & enjoyable game to watch! I’m pulling for both teams🎉🎉
They’re trying any reason not to give Lamar the award and they’re struggling 😂
To the people who don't understand. Lamar mainly won MVP last year because of his record and stats vs good teams/dominant win vs purdy and the 49ers. Dak put up great stats vs garbage teams like he always does and then is mid vs good teams.
The throws and Rush yards Lamar provides it almost makes him automatic mvp every year.
Comparing a 7 or 8 year vet in Lamar to a rookie who has only played 5 NFL games is completely unfair to Jayden Daniels. Jayden is far, far ahead of where Lamar was 5 games in. He already is an elite thrower which is incredible. Lamar wasn't even close to Daniels in his rookie year. It was 1 read and run. Of course Jayden is gonna have down times as all young players do. Let's revisit this comparison in a couple seasons. I'd take Jayden all day, everyday. We finally got our guy. HTTR!
They talk about lamar only having 26 passing tds last year but doesnt account for him getting them down the field for gus to 13+ tds. Lamar is always the best player on the field. So him winning mvp was bound to happen again.
Shadys last comment was something like, you could be the best player in the league but your team lose every game and then you’re not mvp… but MVP isn’t just asking the best player, although that’s a component, it’s the most valuable; and if you are the best player in the league but can’t will your team to victory then you may not be the most “valuable” player in the league because all though your the best at your position, it wasn’t enough to influence the outcome of the game. Record is always going to come into play because the question isn’t who’s the best in the leagues it is who was the most valuable to their team, and part of measuring impact to a team is the team record.
Instead of complaining I'm hustling gonna answer the question lol YES.
Alfred was a helluva back that was unnecessary shade lol
Jaden is basically a brainy Lamar, but winter is coming and NFL winter football is a monster that only experience tames
Why my QB always in their mouth damn its only one LJ#8
Shady saying josh rallied his team to the playoffs like he wasnt the reason they were losing. And when the bills went on that run the bills had the lowest percentage of pass plays in the league
Lamar 2023 season: 24TDs passes 7ints led his team to a 13-3 season finished 1st seed
Josh 2023 season: 29TDs passes 18ints
Put his team in a 6-6 hole and had the OC take the football out of his hands, led the team to a 10-6 record finished 2nd seed
Shady got that SAS hairline
Even if I accept Acho's crazy voting bloc, it's too early to be saying ANYONE is MVP in Week 6. Lamar has plenty of weeks to do even more crazy stuff before the season is over. Either way, I don't think Daniels will be coming up with the win on Sunday.
McCoy always caping for Josh Allen. More electrifying than Lamar? FOH. McCoy "Josh shoulda won that" is complete BS. Stats are the final refuge of the loser.
Comeback player of the year should be a person who turned it around, not a person that got injured unless the player came back from a season ending injury then balled out
Acho proving to the viewers that he shouldn’t have a vote