I'm already editing the next video. It's a VERY different one. If you follow me on IG you already know: instagram.com/trovatten/ - Hope you enjoyed this one!
GDPR is often misunderstood and it really is not an issue for general photography in the street when in public spaces , private areas are different . I recall my last trip to this part of the world and I had no issues with the photos I took . Back in the day I took images of places I really shouldn’t have done, such as photos of solders outside the presidential office in Mexico City and they were full of amazing facial expressions . It is always decidable to follow local laws and be aware of them . I really enjoyed your video
@@katielowen Hi Katie, My Mexico photos were on film and buried in the cellar ha ha. I have taken many images more recently on ditial and some of those are out there on the internet , but I no longer bother posting images because of bots and the lack of real photographers visiting those sites. I would love to see a real platform for true photographers to post images and share that had no value beyond engaging others thoughts on various topics and appreciating images posted , without there being any measure of recording likes and dislikes . So, I am left with producing numerous photo books each year to share with people and include a number of those images in my annual Christmas letter . I realise that this is not as widely available to a larger audience like the internet , but being in print means it may last for historians to find (maybe) in the future. My days of exhibiting are long past , as I no longer do paid jobs and only create images for myself these days. If there were a free website that could be created to post images on then I would love to here about it. I have no interest in being paid for images posted and happy for any of those to be used and copied if any had an inclination to do so. For me, photography is about taking a picture that tells a story and which has some lasting appeal to somebody to finds it. Katie , thank you for sharing your comments here .
@marc dupont Thanks Marc, I was not aware of that . One of the advantages of looking like a holiday maker in the crowd is that you can get away with an awful lot by not behaving like a photographer . It is where using your eyes and parenting to be looking at something other than the subject , such as using the flip screen or your phone to capture the decisive moment . Thanks Marc for sharing those experiences with us.
I love that you're just taking photos wherever you are and adapting yourself to the culture and landscape. Thanks for bringing this to us and can't wait to have you in Portugal!
GDPR doesn't affect your ability to take photographs of other people. Considering the norms of the GDPR, an individual's image remains anonymous as long as it's not accompanied by any other additional data or information that makes the person recognizable. A person's image thus can't be considered as personal data.
Plus if you are photographed in a public place you have no expectation of privacy otherwise tourists wouldn't be able to take any photos at all, also as a photographer who makes their living from photography there's also the freedom of expression as an artist to consider too. I think the GDPR may even break the EU's own law regarding freedom of expression, it's completely unworkable when it comes to professional photography and the right to freedom of expression.
Enno. GDPR is about personally identifiable information which a photography is not. You’re good to go ;) but as someone mentioned taking pictures of kids is a big no no in France.
Point given to Google and RUclips algorithm this night, stumble upon your channel. Great vid, fresh,love how you keep street photography so fun, simple and as it is. Great work, love the pictures taken as well
Great video Frederik! Remember - GDPR does not apply to private persons! That is a common misunderstanding... But always check for local legislation, of course ;)
Amazing photos especially the one with the sitting man in the street. I was in nice there’s 2 weeks with my XT3 and my Ricoh GR II and I didn’t make such photos. Bravo !
Looking forward to see your video in England. Interested to know where you’re going in England and how close it is to me haha. Would love to join you on a photo walk
To take and ask photos of people from the streets is anxiety inducing for me. I kept half my eyes closed the entire time I was watching this. Nice video 💯
GDPR has no bearing on your ability to take photographs. If someone has told you that they have misinformed you. GDPR only relates to the sharing of information. By information I mean anything that could not normally be obtained by an interaction with another person. So, for example their home address or their bank account details. A person's name is also NOT included in GDPR as as this is not information a reasonable person would withhold if requested. No person owns the right to their image. If they are in a public place it is perfectly legal anywhere in Europe to photograph them. This is because there is NO tangible information that you can gain about another person from their image alone. Even if they are sitting on their front porch or in their car and you are on public property such as the street then you are within your rights to capture another person's image. You do not need to ask for permission either.
Nick, I'm afraid it's not that simple regarding people's right to their image and to photograph people without their consent. Europe is not (yet!) one country and there is a variety of photography related laws throughout the different countries in Europe (and the world). Please google "Country specific consent requirements"+"wikimedia" and check out that article - very useful. (I didn't link as a previous comment with the link was deleted elsewhere on RUclips). As an avid street photographer I would still make photographs anywhere in Europe - if someone challenges me it's a risk I'm willing to take. And, I'm very happy to live in the UK, where you don't need consent and can publish pretty much freely. As for the implications of GDPR they are very limited in how it the affect private individuals. They are geared towards companies and organisations.
GDPR applies to organisations, businesses, and state bodies. It does not apply to individuals. Especially if you are taking photos in a non-commercial manner. By that I mean you have not been contracted to take them and you are not taking them to promote a product or service. That means you are taking them more for your personal use. Personal use does not preclude making money from the photos when you put them on your personal RUclips channel. Making money from photographs does not define the photography as commercial, it's the reason why that defines it as commercial.
So to pick on your example of photo books. If the publisher asked you to take some pictures for a future book, you'd be caught by GDPR as that is a commercial activity. If you took some pictures that you then later sold to a publisher you would not be caught by GDPR as you took them for your personal use an only later sold a copy to the publisher. However, the publisher would be caught and they might require some documentation such as model release forms. Creating your own photo book from your own photos that you took for your own personal use would not be caught by GDPR. Hope that helps.
I think the Street Photography books you refer to were done before social media, and when the people taking pictures were mostly real photographers. Today, almost everyone is walking around with a camera in their pocket, and unfortunately, not everyone is as ethical as you. It seems a bad example for young photographers, telling them to ignore laws they don’t agree with. Maybe you could look at the current privacy laws as an artistic challenge, and make artful photos within the current standards? Conversely, there are plenty of countries without strict privacy laws.
Gdpr is different to proprety law. In France, as a photographe, you have the right to photograph in a public Space a group of people without permission and to use the photographs in artistic finality. And also you have the right to photograph in public Space the face of someone and to publish in artistic finality like books and video like this. But the only guideline is to respect the dignity of the personne who was photographed. And for kids and animals which have an owner you have to obtain the authorization from parents and owners to photograph and to publish the photos or videos. That’s the level of the image rights in France.
I believe GDPR law has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with street photography. You’d have to share the person’s personal details… their face is not considered a personal detail.
You never ask someone to take their picture, you just take it and that's (unless it's a portrait). By asking, you put yourself in a position in which you relinquish control and run the risk of being turned down. It's simple, someone is in a public area, then you're allowed to photograph them and there's nothing they can say. They don't even have rights to ask you to delete the picture because no-one can tell you what to do with a camera that is yours. Even the picture you take of them belongs to the photographer, not the subject.
Amazing video Frederik. I'd like to see you get a weird medium format camera, like a 6x7 Koni Omega Rapid, and see what you could get away within a place like Nice taking candid shots. Excellent series, thank you.
Sooo, you’re Frederik von Trovatten, you’re a Danish photographer, you travel the world and you take pictures of people and stuff? Sounds familiar… ;)))
The GDPR applies to all independent entrepreneurs who process personal data. It applies to you if you are a freelancer or a small business owner, even if you have no personnel or only have a few customers. But not if you are just a private individual exercising your hobby.
Beautiful photos! I will be going to France next week and Nice is one of my destinations. I see you travel alot and Im curious how long you stay for each location. Do you prefer to stay longer or try to have more variety?
Hey Frederik. Under GDPR you can photograph anybody in public spaces (streets) unless: 1) the person doesn't want you to. 2) you're using the images commercially as in advertisements. (you need contract for that) You can use them for your portfolio (website book whatever. 3) If you can say the model is likely to get in trouble if this photo is getting public.
I like the picture of the women from behind, I would have done the same but be careful, the French can be real busybodies, and someone else could have made an issue of it. You have a good manner and most people can see that you are a serious photographer. Also when the sun is low you can shoot out of the sun, and people probably won't see you.
A tip for folks wanting to do the same in any country. Write an explanation of who you are, what you’re doing and why. Then use Google translate or use a friend to translate. Let folks read your plea. Don’t forget to apologise for not knowing the local language. See if there is common language. The English are especially lazy at learning languages. Perhaps it’s an arrogance from the days every atlas was pink in colour. And don’t forget to smile. I love Nice but am stuck in lockdown in Sydney. Keep safe and well folks.
You might not get to see this, but if you are in Lisbon and you're going to shoot, i wouldn't mind tagging along. I've never shot with anyone before but it would be invaluable to me to get some tips and see the process with someone with your experience. Cheers!
I'm already editing the next video. It's a VERY different one. If you follow me on IG you already know: instagram.com/trovatten/ - Hope you enjoyed this one!
Hope it comes out very soon, Frederik ! Waiting for new content. Keep up the great work !
GDPR is often misunderstood and it really is not an issue for general photography in the street when in public spaces , private areas are different .
I recall my last trip to this part of the world and I had no issues with the photos I took .
Back in the day I took images of places I really shouldn’t have done, such as photos of solders outside the presidential office in Mexico City and they were full of amazing facial expressions .
It is always decidable to follow local laws and be aware of them .
I really enjoyed your video
That’s awesome! You should post your photos sometime!
@@katielowen
Hi Katie,
My Mexico photos were on film and buried in the cellar ha ha. I have taken many images more recently on ditial and some of those are out there on the internet , but I no longer bother posting images because of bots and the lack of real photographers visiting those sites.
I would love to see a real platform for true photographers to post images and share that had no value beyond engaging others thoughts on various topics and appreciating images posted , without there being any measure of recording likes and dislikes .
So, I am left with producing numerous photo books each year to share with people and include a number of those images in my annual Christmas letter .
I realise that this is not as widely available to a larger audience like the internet , but being in print means it may last for historians to find (maybe) in the future.
My days of exhibiting are long past , as I no longer do paid jobs and only create images for myself these days.
If there were a free website that could be created to post images on then I would love to here about it. I have no interest in being paid for images posted and happy for any of those to be used and copied if any had an inclination to do so.
For me, photography is about taking a picture that tells a story and which has some lasting appeal to somebody to finds it.
Katie , thank you for sharing your comments here .
@marc dupont
Thanks Marc,
I was not aware of that . One of the advantages of looking like a holiday maker in the crowd is that you can get away with an awful lot by not behaving like a photographer . It is where using your eyes and parenting to be looking at something other than the subject , such as using the flip screen or your phone to capture the decisive moment .
Thanks Marc for sharing those experiences with us.
Frederik, thank you. I've missed your videos, and really enjoyed this one. Looking forward to your new series.
Ooh. This new kind of series is an amazing idea!
Glad you like it
I love that you're just taking photos wherever you are and adapting yourself to the culture and landscape. Thanks for bringing this to us and can't wait to have you in Portugal!
GDPR doesn't affect your ability to take photographs of other people. Considering the norms of the GDPR, an individual's image remains anonymous as long as it's not accompanied by any other additional data or information that makes the person recognizable. A person's image thus can't be considered as personal data.
Plus if you are photographed in a public place you have no expectation of privacy otherwise tourists wouldn't be able to take any photos at all, also as a photographer who makes their living from photography there's also the freedom of expression as an artist to consider too. I think the GDPR may even break the EU's own law regarding freedom of expression, it's completely unworkable when it comes to professional photography and the right to freedom of expression.
@@acmdv gdpr doesn't no, but then some countries have their own laws that prevent you from taking photos of people where they are the subject
And there is an exception that street photography falls under too.
Enno. GDPR is about personally identifiable information which a photography is not. You’re good to go ;) but as someone mentioned taking pictures of kids is a big no no in France.
Glad you're back again. Your stint in Mexico was inspiring.
Point given to Google and RUclips algorithm this night, stumble upon your channel. Great vid, fresh,love how you keep street photography so fun, simple and as it is. Great work, love the pictures taken as well
It's awesome to see you in my hometown! Awesome vid as usual, hope you've enjoyed your stay here ☺️
Love it. More of this style please ❤️
Will do!
Some of the photos shown in this video have been superb in quality and composition.
I love it. You didn’t disappoint 💯
Ich liebe deine Arbeit. Du bist so inspirierend
Your photography is outstanding as always.
A "Tour d'Europe" series would be great since you love to travel around. :D
Loved the video, your wonderful manner & especially the photos! Really enjoyed this!
Great video. I do miss the film photography!
Just got this glass and it goes so good on the xt3!! Loving it!! Wonderful vid!
That opening photo tho! Wow! Amazing as always.
Excellent video Frederik...absolutely love your content.
I’m just so in love with the photographs you take! Amazing! 🖤
Wonderful photographs Frederik. Great content as always! All the best, from the Philippines
I like the narrow hallways, the last picture.
Excellent vlog and even better photo's
You are amazing! Hope you go to Portugal, miss my country and I’m curious to see how you gonna see it
You are in my city and my playfield for street photo!
I feel nostalgic watching this as I've been to Nice a few times and recognise some of it. I must go back and take my XT1.
Missed you for so long how have you been. Great series you have started can't wait till the next video.
Such an inspiration as always! Thank you for letting us see a bit of your soul….
Wow, amazing job !!!!! I didn't expect that you could do street photography in Nice man. 👍👍👍
Tusinde tak for din video. Glad for at se du er tilbage. Jeg er vild med din energi og dine flotte fotos! Tak
Very inspiring video transporting nice, relaxed vibes. Keep up that work, I really enjoy watching your videos which I can learn from a lot. Thanks!
Beautiful photos, Frederick
Thank you so much David! And thank you so much for becoming a member on the channel! So so cool. New video out in a few days :)!
Another great slideshow from you Frederik. 35mm f1,4 fuji lens in your hands works great...
Regards from Slovakia.
I really loved the B&W shots in this vid!
loved this video! Very cool to see your process
Thanks for this video, i like your fresh style. Waiting for the following vid. Stunning photographs and a lot for me to learn ...
great videeo!!
Really enjoyed this video... You really are brilliant at what you do and you inspire me no end...
Beautiful photos! You really bought this place to life. I would love to visit there on the basis of this video!!
could you possibly start adding the settings along with each photo? I would love to get an idea of street art and the setting to think of.
Great video Frederik! Remember - GDPR does not apply to private persons! That is a common misunderstanding... But always check for local legislation, of course ;)
Great as always, Frederik! I missed new videos on your channel. :)
Amazing photos especially the one with the sitting man in the street. I was in nice there’s 2 weeks with my XT3 and my Ricoh GR II and I didn’t make such photos. Bravo !
Enjoyed this video so much!! Thank you!!
Looking forward to see your video in England. Interested to know where you’re going in England and how close it is to me haha. Would love to join you on a photo walk
To take and ask photos of people from the streets is anxiety inducing for me. I kept half my eyes closed the entire time I was watching this. Nice video 💯
Search “trovatten shy” and watch the video where I adress this whole thing :) You can do it!
@@FTrovatten baby steps though. Thank you! 😅
Been there only two days ago 😂. Eager to see this video.
Arh nice!
Très beau regard sur cette ville et la vie.
U r so great!!! Thank u for the video
GDPR has no bearing on your ability to take photographs. If someone has told you that they have misinformed you. GDPR only relates to the sharing of information. By information I mean anything that could not normally be obtained by an interaction with another person. So, for example their home address or their bank account details. A person's name is also NOT included in GDPR as as this is not information a reasonable person would withhold if requested. No person owns the right to their image. If they are in a public place it is perfectly legal anywhere in Europe to photograph them. This is because there is NO tangible information that you can gain about another person from their image alone. Even if they are sitting on their front porch or in their car and you are on public property such as the street then you are within your rights to capture another person's image. You do not need to ask for permission either.
Indeed. Especially their faces are NOT personal details…
Nick, I'm afraid it's not that simple regarding people's right to their image and to photograph people without their consent. Europe is not (yet!) one country and there is a variety of photography related laws throughout the different countries in Europe (and the world). Please google "Country specific consent requirements"+"wikimedia" and check out that article - very useful. (I didn't link as a previous comment with the link was deleted elsewhere on RUclips). As an avid street photographer I would still make photographs anywhere in Europe - if someone challenges me it's a risk I'm willing to take. And, I'm very happy to live in the UK, where you don't need consent and can publish pretty much freely.
As for the implications of GDPR they are very limited in how it the affect private individuals. They are geared towards companies and organisations.
Ciao da Firenze
Great work ! 8:30 so good 8:39
Hola.......wait........it's bonjour Frederique!
where's the rolleiflex??
Time to start thinking a little further out of the box matey....
what lens are you using on your fujifilm in this video (is it the same as in the recommendation)?
2nd question - for the photos of the dog at 7mins 20s - what settings did you have on the camera?
Hello Frederik! Are you still in Nice?
Not anymore, no :)
@@FTrovatten Pity ! I would have liked to meet you and have a drink with you. 🙂
Hola excelente
Gracias!
Je suis le seul français à avoir regardé et donc a avoir compris les paroles de la musique 😂
Yay!!! New video 📷
GDPR applies to organisations, businesses, and state bodies. It does not apply to individuals. Especially if you are taking photos in a non-commercial manner. By that I mean you have not been contracted to take them and you are not taking them to promote a product or service. That means you are taking them more for your personal use. Personal use does not preclude making money from the photos when you put them on your personal RUclips channel. Making money from photographs does not define the photography as commercial, it's the reason why that defines it as commercial.
So to pick on your example of photo books. If the publisher asked you to take some pictures for a future book, you'd be caught by GDPR as that is a commercial activity. If you took some pictures that you then later sold to a publisher you would not be caught by GDPR as you took them for your personal use an only later sold a copy to the publisher. However, the publisher would be caught and they might require some documentation such as model release forms. Creating your own photo book from your own photos that you took for your own personal use would not be caught by GDPR.
Hope that helps.
Dude do you understand what they were singing at the beginning of the video ? ahah
You should come and visit Israel for couple of weeks: Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Haifa. No GDPR and great atmosphere!
GDPR ... not only ruining web experience, but street photography too.
Gdpr laws are pretty ridiculous in that way, kind of making me want to stay in Canada rather than go to Germany
think the law prevents it
I think the Street Photography books you refer to were done before social media, and when the people taking pictures were mostly real photographers.
Today, almost everyone is walking around with a camera in their pocket, and unfortunately, not everyone is as ethical as you.
It seems a bad example for young photographers, telling them to ignore laws they don’t agree with.
Maybe you could look at the current privacy laws as an artistic challenge, and make artful photos within the current standards? Conversely, there are plenty of countries without strict privacy laws.
Gdpr is different to proprety law. In France, as a photographe, you have the right to photograph in a public Space a group of people without permission and to use the photographs in artistic finality. And also you have the right to photograph in public Space the face of someone and to publish in artistic finality like books and video like this. But the only guideline is to respect the dignity of the personne who was photographed.
And for kids and animals which have an owner you have to obtain the authorization from parents and owners to photograph and to publish the photos or videos. That’s the level of the image rights in France.
I believe GDPR law has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with street photography. You’d have to share the person’s personal details… their face is not considered a personal detail.
Tell me, are you on the run? You're talking so fast that I can't understand it at all. Talk a little slower please.
Greetings Stefan
Perhaps you should have used your well learn Mexican Spanish in Nice, It might have helped you a little more than your English. hahaha
Are you coming to Lisbon ? Really hope so!
I think so!
It would be nice if you both come to Porto! Ahah
Great shot of the older gentleman at the restaurant
The pictures look amazing, Frederik. I'd go insane having to worry about Euro laws on street photography.
You never ask someone to take their picture, you just take it and that's (unless it's a portrait). By asking, you put yourself in a position in which you relinquish control and run the risk of being turned down. It's simple, someone is in a public area, then you're allowed to photograph them and there's nothing they can say. They don't even have rights to ask you to delete the picture because no-one can tell you what to do with a camera that is yours. Even the picture you take of them belongs to the photographer, not the subject.
finally someone said that right to the point 👍
Amazing video Frederik. I'd like to see you get a weird medium format camera, like a 6x7 Koni Omega Rapid, and see what you could get away within a place like Nice taking candid shots. Excellent series, thank you.
The privacy issues are much less to do with GDPR and more with France’s privacy laws being strict in-and-of-themselves.
Going to nice to shoot street soon so was interested to see this. Cheers!
Really liked this video, mate. I liked your photographs even more. Cheers
Sooo, you’re Frederik von Trovatten, you’re a Danish photographer, you travel the world and you take pictures of people and stuff? Sounds familiar… ;)))
The GDPR applies to all independent entrepreneurs who process personal data. It applies to you if you are a freelancer or a small business owner, even if you have no personnel or only have a few customers. But not if you are just a private individual exercising your hobby.
The first photo of the man at the restaurant was spectacular
Beautiful photos! I will be going to France next week and Nice is one of my destinations. I see you travel alot and Im curious how long you stay for each location. Do you prefer to stay longer or try to have more variety?
Hey Frederik. Under GDPR you can photograph anybody in public spaces (streets) unless: 1) the person doesn't want you to. 2) you're using the images commercially as in advertisements. (you need contract for that) You can use them for your portfolio (website book whatever. 3) If you can say the model is likely to get in trouble if this photo is getting public.
I like the picture of the women from behind, I would have done the same but be careful, the French can be real busybodies, and someone else could have made an issue of it. You have a good manner and most people can see that you are a serious photographer. Also when the sun is low you can shoot out of the sun, and people probably won't see you.
A tip for folks wanting to do the same in any country. Write an explanation of who you are, what you’re doing and why. Then use Google translate or use a friend to translate. Let folks read your plea. Don’t forget to apologise for not knowing the local language. See if there is common language. The English are especially lazy at learning languages. Perhaps it’s an arrogance from the days every atlas was pink in colour.
And don’t forget to smile. I love Nice but am stuck in lockdown in Sydney.
Keep safe and well folks.
You might not get to see this, but if you are in Lisbon and you're going to shoot, i wouldn't mind tagging along. I've never shot with anyone before but it would be invaluable to me to get some tips and see the process with someone with your experience. Cheers!
Hey I'm going to Mexico city with my canon ae1. What lens you recommend to take
Ahah lovely French song at the beginning...
Reminder to self: Take the photos you want to take, and apologize later. (THANK YOU!)
Frederik, when are you going to Russia and which city?
Le mec il touche quand même pas mal. Superbes photos
Come back to México. :D
Frederik is a nice guy! So it's hard to say no to get photographed...
❤️
Great video!
My city 😆
Another Great Video !
Thank you !
Are you shooting raw on the Fuji and applying styles yourself, or do you use film simulations?
Raw and edit after :) no simualtions
AND ALSO AMSTERDAM haha
Yess! 100%