Joy Division- Insight (REACTION & REVIEW)
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- Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025
- Song Link: • Joy Division - Insight
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This Album is a Journey, as a 14 year old punk I hated it but was fortunate enough to hear it in 1979, revisited it years later when I could appreciate how good this was, saw Hook playing it live in its entirety this year, an absolute masterpiece, RIP Mr Curtis.
Peter Hook has said that Kraftwerk was a major influence on their sound and attitude when they started out and It's very evident on this track. The merging of the machines and human presence. They were a kind of lo-fi version of Kraftwerk but brought to another level by the depth of Ian Curtis's voice and words.
They were all young, so the "being young" he's remembering is being a child? So then it would be a memory of his true self, somewhere below the pain he's become. And it's "we" were young, so not isolated/ alienated.
Just the fact that this band somehow managed to succeed is telling. This despair and faint, but determined hope clinging on in spite of the hopelessness was something that resonated as more true than the happier thoughts scripted for people in other forms of the arts, by teams of scriptwriters. (Maybe it was just tough times, but generally in tough times the tendency is to pretend it's not as bad as it really is, so I don't think that explains it.)
They're definitely not a band to be understood out of the total context. You can't make up "Truth-for-Everyone" out of personal suffering and misfortune, but maybe all the fans were looking for was a bit of plain old honesty. (And not for a sermon on what the truth the whole truth and something else about the truth on top of that.) He had the epilepsy. It messed up his life and made him really unhappy. I suppose in the end you have depression added on top of that (but I don't think his was the kind that just comes out of the blue.) He hated performing in public. Was terribly shy. (So I suppose the courage to go against that might've been part of the appeal, too, since it's a pretty common fear.)
To me, the whole phenomenon is always interesting, even when I'm not in the mood for it. (Too many depressive people in my life for that to be something I'd go and seek out for entertainment or enlightenment. Might even be something that visits me sometimes. Denial is the start of resistance, I say, and never mind that the therapist disagrees.)
The next song New Dawn Fades a song you will love. The next few songs are incredable
The laser sounds are syndrums, a form of electric percussion.
One of my favorite on the album.
Music is also defined by its meaning to people. And this Music means a lot to many many people.
Spot on! Heard New Dawn Fades on the radio in 79. It blew me away so I rushed out to buy this album and its been playing in my head ever since.
Glad you’re getting back so quickly to this classic album… next songs are some of my favorites
Pause Blade-runner at the point Deckard reaches the roof-top,
start playing on mute as Insight begins:
Sound of door as Roy opens hatch,
Deckard runs and leaps
(Roy's watched them all as they fall)
and hangs from far roof.
As flock of doves fly by
Roy snatches one of his creators toys,
(made with "style and good taste")
from the air, and leaps
to look on the slipping man,
rain like lasers on his face...
Roy opens a door for his hunter,
catching him up at the last moment.
More upheaval for his creator's police man:
"All God's angels beware
I'm not afraid any more".
More laser sounds,
like Tears in Rain,
as storm slows,
dove escapes grasp,
and flutters away.
I was left thinking David Bowie could have pulled off these vocals. The song came off a little better as I imagined Bowie.
Literally the definition of 'one of a kind'.
😊 I love JD.
I didn’t get into JD back in 1979… what was I listening to, hmm, Utopia, no that was 1980, Todd, no, 1981, ahh, Stevie Wonder, yes, Journey Through the Secret Life Of Plants 🌱. Still love this double album.
Anyway, JD is interesting, I just woke up from a dream and it helped me remember it. I kinda dug it. The dream was a alternate history where I’m going to hang with a friend, I’m bringing McDs over for lunch. I’m driving trying to find the house, I do find it, just have to figure where to park but I woke up. This is something that could have happened if I hadn’t moved in my late teens.
Sorry for that tangent.
Be well all.
Great album.
Wonderful! 😍
Datblygu are the Welsh Joy Division. Funniest truest most insightful observations ever. My phone earplugs have disintegrated so I couldn’t listen to this properly.
I am an ant. I’m gonna listen again. Diolch.
Yay!!!
Great!
But then... there isn't a Joy Division track I don't like, so yeah.
@@Katehowe3010 Sorry, Christian, but Christmas is not my time of year. Without going into it too much, it will forever stick in my memory as the time I lost my brother. So... you know... it's never going to be "merry" or any other jolly adjective.
@Ariadne Chance My condolences Ariadne. I'll remove the post, and wish you a happy and Rush free New Year! 😉 ❤
@@Katehowe3010 Thanks, man! Very much appreciated.
🔕👎✌
That's a few more videos to flick straight past if you're doing the whole album! 😶
Yep.
Musically it's empty and boring and moreover the singing of Ian Curtis is totally inexpressive. Sorry, I'm going to listen to The Sound, The Comsat Angels and The Opposition which are shamefully underrated bands unlike Joy Division which is very overrated !
It's hard for me to think of a more listless vocal. Maybe it has something to do with Curtis's existential problems, but it doesn't save the song!
@@Katehowe3010 Yes, I think the way Ian Curtis sang had to do with his depressive state but not only, because technically I find that he often sang more than borderline. I find that even when Robert Smith sang in a neutral way like on "Secrets", "In Your House", "All Cats Are Grey" or "Faith" for example, there is always an emotion that comes through, and even if musically The Cure could have been neurasthenic like Joy Division, I find there's always something interesting going on and there's a feeling that appeals to me, unlike Joy Division's music which I find quite often lifeless.
Would love to hear a reaction of Comsat Angels from JP.
@@Kevvinm Me too ! 😉 I think "After the Rain" would be the perfect track to introduce The Comsat Angels to Justin.
@@a.k.1740 I’d go with The Cutting Edge love The Chasing Shadows lp.
Sorry. Not a fan.
This band and melodies aren't on the best of terms are they!
Or harmonies, structure, compositional merit...
@@pentagrammaton6793 I didn't want to be too harsh. 😁
@@Katehowe3010 that's why I'm here hahaha
@@pentagrammaton6793 My perfect foil. 😁
I am not a fan of this band. Overrated is my favorite word
Crap is my favourite
I'll go with pretentious!
Great words too
One thing he was afraid of was a melody or two.
@@Edward1312 I never said it wasn't my opinion, and I'm more than happy for those other people to enjoy this if they can stomach it.
Definitiely the worlds best joke band
@SMC Gmail I know, and even I know it's shit. Music by numbers, no imagination just simple synth dribble....you must know this