First thing: you're right about the title, it is about the structure of the song. Something to do with how many bars are in each section. Secondly: The weird begining is a transition from the track before. It starts immediately after the end of The Village and for years i thought it was the end of THAT track, not the start of this one. Thirdly: 586 is regarded nowadays as a bit of a dry-run for Blue Monday which was written and recorded later in the PC&L sessions, but it had a fascinating evolution. Listen to the early version recorded for the John Peel radio show (link below). Its a must if you like gnarly early electro. Fourthly: the ending, when rhe song kinda runs out of steam, is genius. ruclips.net/video/cIV8wY3ZuvU/видео.htmlsi=iakVB-Vnfc0qhRg9
Could you please explain that about 5 8 6 is the structure of the song? Wich bars? 5x4/4 + 8x4/4 +6x4/4 or 5/4 8/4... Don't make sense to me. Please, explain. :)
@@Owlstretchingtime78 For me, their debut album Movement, is the only one I like in its entirety, although I had their subsequent albums up to Brotherhood in the 80s but that didn't make much impression on me. Then I had a listen to Technique and I didn't like it at all. To me, New Order's career can be summed up by the album Movement, their first four singles, plus their Peel Sessions from 81/82. I have little interest in what followed. Oh yes, and I do like the sarcastic "Every Little Counts" on Brotherhood!😉
Watching this months later but 586 is a New Order enigma. You can/should get lost in the suite of tracks the encompass the 586 experience. Prime 586, Video 586, Peel 586, PC&L 586, Ultraviolence and Blue Monday/The Beach. Then there’s the Primitive 586 video…
Loving the forays into new territories. ❤ Before New Order was Joy Division, led by enigmatic frontman Ian Curtis who committed suicide. Fascinating band history overall, and even with all the bleeps and beats, a very good live act ❤
You should relisten to "All Day Long" now that you've heard more New Order. I remember that request many years ago, and I think you'll appreciate it more today. ❤
👍I fully agree! I heard the Peel Session of "5 8 6" on the radio shortly before the release of Power, Corruption & Lies and when I listened to the album version shortly afterwards, I was totally disappointed. For me, the Peel Session will always be the original version of this song!
@@andreasglaesel3811 Absolutely right! The Peel Session version of "We All Stand" has a nice reggae dub feel, whereas the album version is neutral and uninteresting (and I'm not usually into dub!).
The original version is 22 minutes long, instrumental, and was made for the opening of The Hacienda. Now it's released as 'Video 586'. And it's the best version!
@@jespercervin9618 I really dislike the instrumental "Video 5 8 6", which drags on for nothing, and I think it has more in common with "Blue Monday" than "5 8 6". No, the definitive version of "5 8 6" is the John Peel session from May 1982 (first transmission dates from 1st June 1982).
I don't like this version of "5 8 6". New Order had recorded an earlier, slower version for a John Peel session in the Spring 1982 (at least five months before recording for Power, Corruption & Lies) and this earlier version for the BBC was much more inspired in my opinion. Justin, I'd like you to listen to it for comparison😉. By the way, The name "5 8 6" is the bar structure in the song "Ecstasy" (on the same album), which is five beats by eight beats by six beats.
I already said this in a previous comment. For me this track is a primitive and much inferior version of the classic Blue Monday. Not that it's bad, but it's actually one of the least interesting songs on the album. And one that I usually skip, when I listen to the album in its entirety (which I haven't done in a while). Therefore, my suggestion is to listen to Blue Monday (in its original version - there are several remixes out there, almost always inferior), if you haven't already done so before (I confess that I don't remember if there has already been a reaction to the song on this channel). An obligatory song from the 1980s.
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First thing: you're right about the title, it is about the structure of the song. Something to do with how many bars are in each section.
Secondly: The weird begining is a transition from the track before. It starts immediately after the end of The Village and for years i thought it was the end of THAT track, not the start of this one.
Thirdly: 586 is regarded nowadays as a bit of a dry-run for Blue Monday which was written and recorded later in the PC&L sessions, but it had a fascinating evolution. Listen to the early version recorded for the John Peel radio show (link below). Its a must if you like gnarly early electro.
Fourthly: the ending, when rhe song kinda runs out of steam, is genius.
ruclips.net/video/cIV8wY3ZuvU/видео.htmlsi=iakVB-Vnfc0qhRg9
Could you please explain that about 5 8 6 is the structure of the song? Wich bars? 5x4/4 + 8x4/4 +6x4/4
or 5/4 8/4...
Don't make sense to me. Please, explain. :)
Hello, JP! New Order's landmark album. ❤
Not a fan of New Order by a long stretch, although i do find 'Technique' a great listen.
@@Owlstretchingtime78 For me, their debut album Movement, is the only one I like in its entirety, although I had their subsequent albums up to Brotherhood in the 80s but that didn't make much impression on me. Then I had a listen to Technique and I didn't like it at all.
To me, New Order's career can be summed up by the album Movement, their first four singles, plus their Peel Sessions from 81/82. I have little interest in what followed. Oh yes, and I do like the sarcastic "Every Little Counts" on Brotherhood!😉
new order huge dance floor band in the 80s massive
I feel like the piano solo at 6:08 was inspiration for house music in the mid to late 80s. Just listen to Marshall Jefferson - Move Your Body.
Watching this months later but 586 is a New Order enigma. You can/should get lost in the suite of tracks the encompass the 586 experience. Prime 586, Video 586, Peel 586, PC&L 586, Ultraviolence and Blue Monday/The Beach. Then there’s the Primitive 586 video…
Would LOVE to see you react to Joy Division’s second and final album “Closer” in the not too distant future!
Hooks don’t care what people think about him will change half though a song he man change the history music man and his own time line
Early "Blue Monday" for sure but still enjoyable.
Then again, I love all of this album so I'm hardly going to rate this track down.
Loving the forays into new territories. ❤
Before New Order was Joy Division, led by enigmatic frontman Ian Curtis who committed suicide. Fascinating band history overall, and even with all the bleeps and beats, a very good live act ❤
Hitler didn't like cats, eh? He's gone right down in my estimation.
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I've always put this song in the same bag with the 122 Blue Monday/The Beach. Somehow is still connected to Joy Division, IMO.
Haha! It's a bit Jack Ripperish! On the second side, there's a song called Ultraviolence which is also a tad suspect...
Please react to the double LP Substance 1987!
Lovely 🎉
You should relisten to "All Day Long" now that you've heard more New Order. I remember that request many years ago, and I think you'll appreciate it more today. ❤
the Peel Sessions version is much better than this album version
👍I fully agree!
I heard the Peel Session of "5 8 6" on the radio shortly before the release of Power, Corruption & Lies and when I listened to the album version shortly afterwards, I was totally disappointed. For me, the Peel Session will always be the original version of this song!
@@a.k.1740 Absolutely. Same with the song We All Stand. I can hardly listen to the album version, but the Peel Session is brillant...
@@andreasglaesel3811 Absolutely right! The Peel Session version of "We All Stand" has a nice reggae dub feel, whereas the album version is neutral and uninteresting (and I'm not usually into dub!).
The original version is 22 minutes long, instrumental, and was made for the opening of The Hacienda. Now it's released as 'Video 586'. And it's the best version!
@@jespercervin9618 I really dislike the instrumental "Video 5 8 6", which drags on for nothing, and I think it has more in common with "Blue Monday" than "5 8 6". No, the definitive version of "5 8 6" is the John Peel session from May 1982 (first transmission dates from 1st June 1982).
I don't like this version of "5 8 6".
New Order had recorded an earlier, slower version for a John Peel session in the Spring 1982 (at least five months before recording for Power, Corruption & Lies) and this earlier version for the BBC was much more inspired in my opinion. Justin, I'd like you to listen to it for comparison😉.
By the way, The name "5 8 6" is the bar structure in the song "Ecstasy" (on the same album), which is five beats by eight beats by six beats.
I already said this in a previous comment. For me this track is a primitive and much inferior version of the classic Blue Monday. Not that it's bad, but it's actually one of the least interesting songs on the album. And one that I usually skip, when I listen to the album in its entirety (which I haven't done in a while). Therefore, my suggestion is to listen to Blue Monday (in its original version - there are several remixes out there, almost always inferior), if you haven't already done so before (I confess that I don't remember if there has already been a reaction to the song on this channel). An obligatory song from the 1980s.