When cycling through the identification cards, one never thinks about all the spy work that went into collecting that data, all the people risking their lives gaining access to classified information. I normally just take it all for granted.
Actually the identification book is historically inaccurate for a lot of merchants there was no standard and the best they got is periscope photos and approximations of all the dimensions. On the other hand identification for warships was more detailed.
Devin, I’ve already watched this series, but it popped up again in my feed, and I’m going to watching it all the way through again!! You really have a gift for this stuff.
I like the mix of documentary and action packed gameplay. Brought back happy memories of playing Grey Wolves using manual targeting. Never managed to playing SH4 although I have it in my collection and it might work well with the voice attack software I purchased recently. Looking forward to the next episode.
@@devinhorner2358 hello Devin what mod has the ahead engine bell sound?? I installed a few mods but no sound.. ... Im enjoying silent hunter 4 now..just need that extra boost ..
My uncle was a submariner in WW2, and his first submarine the diesels were so unreliable, that they came into port under sail more often than under power. The sail masts would lay in the deck until needed then would be hoisted into place, and a sail strung between them. You have to remember that most of the desil engines lubricants were developed during the war, and these were later put to use on the diesel trucks after the war. This increased the efficiency of the diesel to what it is today. My uncle Bob, was a torpedoman, and toward the end of the war was a Chief of the boat. Several subs that he transferred off of, upon the next deployment, did not come back. One of his Captain's when the were being depth charged, had a nervous breakdown, and had to be relieved and restrained.
Shaping up to be a good series! I first played Silent Service on NES, and later got Silent Hunter 2 packaged with Apache Havoc (awesome) and Flanker 2.5 (too complicated for me to figure out at the time). Silent Hunter 3 was my favorite though. I love the difficulty dynamic of starting with a primitive boat and ill-equipped opponents, and slowly improving your boat while the AI is leaping far ahead in terms of tactics and technology. Never played this one, so it will be interesting to see how that dynamic and the tactics vary over the course of the war.
I, too, put many hours into SH3. Once 4 came out though, I was hooked. I know a lot of people are "Uboats or Nothing" types, but personally I'll take the US boats if given the option.
@@devinhorner2358 every S boat was different, no standerdization. The best models we're designed by the electric boat company and the us Navy built boats were dangerous
Hello I know it's old video just wanna say like your sh4 videos.. I'm a merchant sailor going back to work with the navy... I'm playing trigger maru sh4 with training wheels lol 😀 hope you can do some more silent hunter 4 in the near future
Thank you for all the effort you have put into these videos. I don't own the game yet, but I watch it like I'm watching a good movie. A documentary actually!
That was so sick, really felt like I was on a submarine engaging in warfare, you made it feel like I was there and I was scared when the S-boat was taking fire, when you dove underwater for that first time after taking fire and sent your crew to battle stations I could really feel the pressure and for a brief moment of a few seconds I really felt like I was in danger in the claustrophobic control station while sitting at my desk. Incredible atmospheric gameplay and wolfpack level narration. subscribed immediately just after episode 1
Very educational. Ive kinda followed the whole UBoat history, and subsequent games, but I don't know much about American boats, so this is very interesting. You seem to know your stuff. Makes for a very interesting viewing. I didn't realize that the the US fleet started with such antiquated "junk". Should be fun to watch the improvements and tech developments throughout the series.
I'm impressed. Beautiful intro. Lots of very interesting information. A real mine of knowledge about submarines. Halfway through the video, I decided to subscribe to your channel. As for interesting facts, you told about the torpedoing of a Norwegian ship by an American S-class submarine. I will now talk about the sinking of an S-class submarine by friendly fire from a Norwegian destroyer. This is precisely the Polish submarine ORP Jastrząb (P-551), formerly USS S-25 (SS-130) - a single-hull American submarine of the S/S-1 type, specifically S-25, which was transferred to Great Britain as part of war aid under the Lend Lease Act, and by the latter leased to the Polish Navy. The ship was sunk in the Norwegian Sea on May 2, 1942, as a result of a mistake by the commanders of allied surface units during a long-range cover operation for convoy PQ-15. Originally, the British flag was to be raised on the ship, and the Polish flag only outside American territorial waters, but as a result of the efforts of the Polish commander, Romanowski, the authorities agreed to raise the Polish flag immediately. On November 4, 1941, at the New London base, the ship was officially withdrawn from service in the United States Navy and simultaneously handed over to Great Britain as HMS P-551, with the unit immediately leased by the British government to the Polish government in exile. At the same time, at 4:15 p.m., the Polish flag was ceremonially raised in the presence of many representatives of the Polish American community. On November 12, 1941, the ship was baptized in Groton - P-551 was named "Jastrząb". The command was taken over by Capt. Bolesław Romanowski. The new godparents of the ship are Anna Strakacz - daughter of the Consul General of the Republic of Poland in New York, and Admiral Richard S. Edwards. The ship was baptized according to the Anglo-Saxon ceremonial with the words: I name this ship Jastrząb. God Bless Her and All that sail with Her. More on Wikipedia under the title "ORP Jastrząb (1922)". The page can be translated automatically from Polish to English.
I only recently got into SH4, and bought the game on Steam. Found your videos while looking to see what I could find that showed convoy attacks. I have watched first 5 episodes of this series and it is excellent. Your clear narrative of the action in the campaign is enhanced by the history of the naval action and the war in general. Perhaps the most amazing is that you manage to put up a good fight with an S-boat! It is obsolete, slow and packs a light punch with only 4 torpedo tubes. But you maneuver the hell out of it and sink ships. I have tried the Asiatic campaign with an s-boat and it was not pretty.
Very good job on video. I served on the USS Houston 713. Been hooked on submarines and their history. Did a great job explaining how everything worked. Also may hate for this I was a sonar tech lmao, and yes when I was in we still have boxing matches with the machinist mates.
As someone else commented, Silent Service on NES was also my first sub "sim" with Silent Hunter 3 following some years later. While I love Uboats there's just something about the Pacific theater that draws me back. Have SH4 installed currently with FotRSU and am "modding" Silent Victory on Tabletop Simulator to include S-boats.
Just finished watching - yeah, the game models moonlight, at least as far as it makes YOU more visible at night. Moonless nights you will find night surface attacks a lot easier. The Ideal is Overcast nights, they are the easiest ;-)
I would have been more mindful but there wasn't an actual moon out so I thought I was safe! I have successfully duped escorts way closer than that in the past, but hey, you win some you lose some.
Listen I know normally on most ships or anything like that there would be a book that would actually tell you on what date the Moon is up and what's going on is that in the game because if that's something modeled that would be something I like to be able to look at a calendar and say okay yeah the moon's supposed to not be out tonight. It's just one of those things if you're not paying attention to it you get your head cut off.
'Moon ' Chapple was the real life commander of S-38 on this patrol. Her first kill was a Norweigen freighter, though she was credited with a Jspanese ship, the 5400 ton Hiyo Maru.
You're content here: Bravo Zulu!! Submariner myself albeit many moons ago 89-93 plank owner USS SCRANTON SSN- 756. Outstanding vid, just subscribed, truly thank you, particularly with the historical aspect.
Wow, isn't that funny: I just moved away from Scranton, PA after living there for 6 years! I didn't even know there was a boat named after it. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, even though it was made by a surface guy lol.
@@devinhorner2358 Ok , Yeah I liked SCRANTON, VFW post I was in had real good people. But it's ok to have an " skimmer" do my Silent Service justice so to speak lol..Great content Sir, please keep'em coming.
Because this video, now I went back to play SH4 again after more than 10 years. This is very knowledgeble and entertain sort of like documentary, Thank you very much. Subcribed!
Hi Devin - I had no idea you were an SH4 fan too! I love that game still, played the hell out of it, and even got involved with the modding scene on SUBSIM for a few years. Super excited for this series. There are so many fascinating untold stories from the Pacific Submarine theater of operations that I feel do not get the attention they deserve. With your love of history I am sure you will do them justice (eg. the Mark 14 torpedo fiasco, Commander Howard Gilmore's Medal of Honor, the USS Tullibee and USS Tang sinking themselves with their own torpedoes etc etc....). Stoked for this series mate. I have put this in a reply to another comment but will repeat it here too. If you are at all interested in the S Class Submarine operations (Pigboats!) I can also heartily recommend 'Pigboat 39: An American Sub Goes to War'. The story of S39 from the start of the war until her loss in August 1942. Really gives you a feel for how antiquated the sub was (compared to the newer fleetboats), how it was held together by rust and hope, and what the captain and crew went through on her 5 war patrols
SPOILERS! PS I always loved to start right at the beginning of the war in Manilla with a Pigboat too! You get the feeling you are on the back foot the whole time, the Japanese are advancing and there really doesn't seem to be anything you can do about it. They are like an unstoppable juggernaut. You quickly get rebased to Surabaya, and then only a few months later have to retreat all the way to Australia. It always gave me a feeling for just how desperate the first 6 months of the Pacific war were
Yeah, man, long time fan of the series (though I could never get excited about SH5). I have never known much at all about the S-boats so this was my first deep dive into all that. Very fascinating, and antiquated for sure. Make sure you check out the references on this this one because I found some very specific NAVSEA manuals made for the ships.
@@devinhorner2358 One thing to bear in mind when commanding an S Boat, the hydrophone head is actually on the front deck, rather than beneath the hull, so you won't pick up sound contacts when you are on the surface. In fleetboats (except the early Porpoise Class IIFC) you should get sound contacts whilst on the surface. They mounted the recievers under the hull. Just FYI ;-)
@@DavidKing-ph8or That's true, and you can see 'em sticking out the bottom. I've noticed that the game seems to switch off the hydrophones on the surface no matter what, though. I'll check it out again, but I remember it being the case
Reminds me of the good old days watching WinterOwl play SHIV, years back. I hope you don't run into the same issues a lot of people did with this mod where enemy traffic is so scarce it's outright boring. I played a campaign where I got to 1943 without seeing a single Japanese warship underway, and seeing only one Japanese merchant.
Yikes! Luckily I haven't experienced that before, so hopefully won't be the case here haha. The game doesn't always send you to high traffic areas, so when I hit dry spells I try to head to known convoy lanes. Or areas that seem like they would be more busy
You just brought a flood of old memories of watching Winter owl 8 or so years ago on a shitty laptop under my bed sheets trying to keep the sound on low not to wake up my little brother sleeping on my bed bunk above me. I haven't thought about Winter Owl in so, so long.
Just discovered your channel I'm a history nerd and I play the game. Can't wait to catch up on these series. Plus ya served on the big E(assuming CVN 65 Enterprise carried on that famous nickname from CV 6) which is a bonus. Never served myself but I respect thoose who do.
I have not, I'll have to look into it.There's a mountain of books out there, so many good ones you don't even know about. Yeah, he looks like a push up guy for sure LOL.
I remember playing this Game more 10 years ago, and was an incredible experience to me. All the details make like your are in a sub. Great video and thank you for come It back.
I can also heartily recommend 'Pigboat 39: An American Sub Goes to War'. The story of S39 from the start of the war until her loss in August 1942. Really gives you a feel for how antiquated the sub was (compared to the newer fleetboats), how it was held together by rust and hope, and what the captain and crew went through on her 5 war patrols
Thank you for all of the great info you gave about S Boats. I tried to watch this series from another you tuber.....it was awful...he acted like a moron, sank fishing trawlers, attacked ships bow to bow or bow ti stern (consistently as a matter of course). He didnt use the TDC, and plotted courses like a moron. Your videos (and Wolfpack345) are very good and instructive. You have earned a thumbs up and a sub.
Whitewater in the bow wave was only part of the problem with being visible at night. In those warm tropical waters there were a lot of organisms, plankton and so on, that were phosphorescent, causing a visible, glowing wake that would pinpoint the boat at night to any ships or aircraft in the area for miles around, and that same glowing wake would, of course, dog torpedoes as well. This phosphorescence was also a problem for PT boats.
1:13:39 He's coming right at you, and he's told his buddies to come with him. He knows where you are. He's coming at you because the instrument of your demise is dropped from the back of his ship. If you are at periscope depth when he drops the ash cans.... I mean, at this point, if you were at test depth when he dropped them... you're still dead. Only thing that can save you, is if Shinji doesn't set the depth on the charges correctly, and nobody finds out.
LOL, that shot next to the Conning Tower probably made your crew crap their pants. Couple days on patrol, and they have to use their reserved clothes already. I think you cured anybody with constipation on that shift. I researched that captains approach were pretty conservative during the early war, playing it safe. I'm assuming couple of your buddies were on the Arizona and your taking this personal 😂. Anyways I know these are old videos, but I still enjoy your content
Just found your channel thank you so much for all the knowledge and info! I have been playing this game loyally since 2007. How do I mod it and update it and where? Please any help would be greatly appreciated. And thank you for these videos excellent!
I've had this game for years and never really understood how to use the manual targeting, so i'm hoping to learn something new as I still play this game every so often. Also I've never played with any mods, I tried years ago to get the real fleet boat mod working but never had any success and finally I got it to work, but my boat has no deck gun or AA gun? I can assign crew to them but I can't use them or see them on the boat? Can you give any help with that?
Been getting into Uboat a lot (and more recently Cold Waters), it's my first (officially at least) submarine game I've invested time in. The only thing that annoys me about the genre is that it seems almost every sub game on the market focuses on Uboats in the North Atlantic during WW2. Uboats are cool and all but seriously why not something different for a change? Their was an entire theater of operations in the Pacific ocean, you could make a game where you can play as the IJN, US Navy, or Royal Navy with the entire Pacific as your sandbox but nope lets keep pumping out more Uboat's of the 2nd world war. Hell even a 1st world war uboat game would be great. Saying all of this to say I've got SH4 now but am reluctant to play it just yet as it appears to be very intimidating so I'll just stalk youtube.
I have similar feelings. It seems like a large chunk of subsim fans are Uboat fans, which is fine. Nothing wrong with them, but there's so much untapped potential. That's why I like this game so much. Stalking youtube is a great start! Play all the tutorials in "submarine school" in the game, they help explain a lot and let you get a feel for things with no danger. Also keep in mind that this, and probably many, youtube playthroughs are set at high or max difficulty. Try a war patrol or some single missions on easier difficulty and maybe it won't feel so overwhelming :)
I usually play with all difficulties checked besides dud torpedoes and manual tdc, keeps for an immersive play through without the frustration of meticulous aiming and unreliable torpedoes
I would love if Italian subs were an option in a game too. Coincidentally Italian subs sneaked across the Gibraltar strait pretty much at will and they had none of the fear that the German submariners had. Would be a new angle even in the Atlantic.
Your videos are right up there with Wolfpack345. So well done, This is my second time through your S boat series. And I highly recommend them, Its just good TV! Thanks...
Thanks so much. I put a lot of work into these, so it's very nice to be appreciated! Excited to hear you like them enough to watch again. Sorry the episodes have been slow in coming, I'm hoping to get more out slowly but surely.
Just discovered this series! I've been trying to get into SH4, so I'm looking forward to this! What department were you in on Enterprise? I had roommates (and one roommate's twin brother) who were aboard during your time. I spent that time occasionally parking across Pier 12 or 14 from y'all (when we came out of Newport News). Also, for the record, the REAL heroes are the EMs who know all the mysterious ways to turn the electricity into roundy-roundy to keep the pointy end going forward and keeping the lights on. -former EMN1
Some of my best friends were EMs :) I was an M-Div steam plant mechanic (nuke). I worked in 4 Main Machinery Room. I had much more fun my last two years when I went TAD to AIMD and worked in the calibration lab. As an electrician, you might me interested to hear that one of the times WE left Newport News we suffered a loss of all AC power- a casualty we had been told in training we would never see in the modern Navy. Being dead in the water in a giant ship with no lights was a singular experience.
So sorry.... Trim tanks and ballast tanks. Trim meter, yes you got it right but to add on that. The ballast tanks in simple terms controls the depth of submarine. Trim tanks are tied in to the system. Think of a normal level with that air bubble in it. Say we are level but we want to dive the submarine. We need the nose/Bow of the ship to dive down first. So we use the trim water in the trim tanks and fill up the front/ Bow of the ship. In turn sub dive. Opposite 4 surfacing pump water aft and out. Last to add most people do not know this. If a sub turns on its side more then 85 90 degrees it will sink. Think of a drink straw we all did that trick as kids with are finger at the top. Are ballast tanks work the same way there is nothing on the bottom to stop water from filling the tanks.
I really like the Silent Hunter series especially Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific Gold Edition, but Silent Hunter I with the Narwhal Class of American submarine with the twin 105mm navy rifles . I hope to see more episodes of Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific from your youtube channel.
Wow, do people actually say it that way? I've had a lot of exposure to many Portsmouths so I guess I have the training. Also, being from New England we had so many town names from the Old Country that I'm pretty good with their correct pronunciations
Back in 99 we had one of your warships docked alongside at Devonport, Plymouth UK, alot of the ships company had funny ways of pronouncing various English UK names, like Birmingham or as they would call it "Birming-ham lol. Just joined Subsim also, look up Adm Cunningham. That's me!😁👍
@Minecraftineer998 I think what you're looking at is the fairlead towing pipe. An attachment point for towing the boat. If you're interested, here's an in depth visual guide to the S- boats. navsource.org/archives/08/pdf/0829290.pdf
Hello! I have a question, are you able to hear depth charge splashes when you’re within the submarine? Something I always have trouble with in this game is that your sonar man doesn’t tell you when DC s are in the water.
Yeah, I wish they would call that out too. I don't think you hear splashes under water. Maybe if you're closer to the surface, but normally I'm listening for the change in screw speed.
@@devinhorner2358 that makes sense, I know in TMO they made it so you could hear the splashes to give you a bit more advanced warning. Damn lazy sonarmen!
Where is the best place to purchase this now, the steam version is apparently unable to be updated. Been playing uboat but dont like playing as germans.
Oh wow, didn't know that. I'd say look around and try to get a physical box version. Just looked at the Ubisoft store and it looks like you could get it from them directly. Amazon might have it too, though I don't know that for sure.
When cycling through the identification cards, one never thinks about all the spy work that went into collecting that data, all the people risking their lives gaining access to classified information. I normally just take it all for granted.
Actually the identification book is historically inaccurate for a lot of merchants there was no standard and the best they got is periscope photos and approximations of all the dimensions. On the other hand identification for warships was more detailed.
Devin, I’ve already watched this series, but it popped up again in my feed, and I’m going to watching it all the way through again!! You really have a gift for this stuff.
In my opinion this is easily one of the top 3 best series of this game. holy crap well done
I like the mix of documentary and action packed gameplay. Brought back happy memories of playing Grey Wolves using manual targeting. Never managed to playing SH4 although I have it in my collection and it might work well with the voice attack software I purchased recently. Looking forward to the next episode.
This game is still on my frequent play list, its aged like fine wine. The pig boats are always a challenge too!
"Petty Officer Nathan Simmons, sir. We call him Shirtless Nate."
"Why do you call him that?"
(Stares right through the new Commander)
I had some actual conversations with officers like that XD
@@devinhorner2358 hello Devin what mod has the ahead engine bell sound?? I installed a few mods but no sound.. ... Im enjoying silent hunter 4 now..just need that extra boost ..
My uncle was a submariner in WW2, and his first submarine the diesels were so unreliable, that they came into port under sail more often than under power. The sail masts would lay in the deck until needed then would be hoisted into place, and a sail strung between them. You have to remember that most of the desil engines lubricants were developed during the war, and these were later put to use on the diesel trucks after the war. This increased the efficiency of the diesel to what it is today. My uncle Bob, was a torpedoman, and toward the end of the war was a Chief of the boat. Several subs that he transferred off of, upon the next deployment, did not come back. One of his Captain's when the were being depth charged, had a nervous breakdown, and had to be relieved and restrained.
Thanks for the new content, and new series. I really enjoy your historical approach to these games, great work.
Beautiful ! Thank you for your service !
Shaping up to be a good series! I first played Silent Service on NES, and later got Silent Hunter 2 packaged with Apache Havoc (awesome) and Flanker 2.5 (too complicated for me to figure out at the time). Silent Hunter 3 was my favorite though. I love the difficulty dynamic of starting with a primitive boat and ill-equipped opponents, and slowly improving your boat while the AI is leaping far ahead in terms of tactics and technology. Never played this one, so it will be interesting to see how that dynamic and the tactics vary over the course of the war.
I, too, put many hours into SH3. Once 4 came out though, I was hooked. I know a lot of people are "Uboats or Nothing" types, but personally I'll take the US boats if given the option.
@@devinhorner2358 every S boat was different, no standerdization.
The best models we're designed by the electric boat company and the us Navy built boats were dangerous
Hello I know it's old video just wanna say like your sh4 videos.. I'm a merchant sailor going back to work with the navy... I'm playing trigger maru sh4 with training wheels lol 😀 hope you can do some more silent hunter 4 in the near future
Man I should really get back into Silent Hunter lol Wolfpack's SH3 playthrough and now this.
Thank you for all the effort you have put into these videos. I don't own the game yet, but I watch it like I'm watching a good movie. A documentary actually!
That was so sick, really felt like I was on a submarine engaging in warfare, you made it feel like I was there and I was scared when the S-boat was taking fire, when you dove underwater for that first time after taking fire and sent your crew to battle stations I could really feel the pressure and for a brief moment of a few seconds I really felt like I was in danger in the claustrophobic control station while sitting at my desk. Incredible atmospheric gameplay and wolfpack level narration. subscribed immediately just after episode 1
Very educational. Ive kinda followed the whole UBoat history, and subsequent games, but I don't know much about American boats, so this is very interesting. You seem to know your stuff. Makes for a very interesting viewing. I didn't realize that the the US fleet started with such antiquated "junk". Should be fun to watch the improvements and tech developments throughout the series.
Man, i watched many SubSim videos, but yours are genius.
Hope for more like this.
Keep your good work up.
Greetings from Germany
I love the amount of technical military terms I learn watching your stuff Mr Horner, my new nautical catch-cry ~ 'diving for Jesus'
I don't know much about you, but I enjoy watching old games being played
I just found this channel and specifically this video and 5 mins in and already a fan. Keep it coming dude! Much love and support!
Just finished Wolfpack 345 Gudgeon series and fell upon this little gem. Thanks!!!!!
I'm impressed. Beautiful intro. Lots of very interesting information. A real mine of knowledge about submarines. Halfway through the video, I decided to subscribe to your channel.
As for interesting facts, you told about the torpedoing of a Norwegian ship by an American S-class submarine.
I will now talk about the sinking of an S-class submarine by friendly fire from a Norwegian destroyer.
This is precisely the Polish submarine ORP Jastrząb (P-551), formerly USS S-25 (SS-130) - a single-hull American submarine of the S/S-1 type, specifically S-25, which was transferred to Great Britain as part of war aid under the Lend Lease Act, and by the latter leased to the Polish Navy. The ship was sunk in the Norwegian Sea on May 2, 1942, as a result of a mistake by the commanders of allied surface units during a long-range cover operation for convoy PQ-15. Originally, the British flag was to be raised on the ship, and the Polish flag only outside American territorial waters, but as a result of the efforts of the Polish commander, Romanowski, the authorities agreed to raise the Polish flag immediately. On November 4, 1941, at the New London base, the ship was officially withdrawn from service in the United States Navy and simultaneously handed over to Great Britain as HMS P-551, with the unit immediately leased by the British government to the Polish government in exile. At the same time, at 4:15 p.m., the Polish flag was ceremonially raised in the presence of many representatives of the Polish American community. On November 12, 1941, the ship was baptized in Groton - P-551 was named "Jastrząb". The command was taken over by Capt. Bolesław Romanowski. The new godparents of the ship are Anna Strakacz - daughter of the Consul General of the Republic of Poland in New York, and Admiral Richard S. Edwards. The ship was baptized according to the Anglo-Saxon ceremonial with the words: I name this ship Jastrząb. God Bless Her and All that sail with Her.
More on Wikipedia under the title "ORP Jastrząb (1922)". The page can be translated automatically from Polish to English.
A masterpiece of history and adventure! Sir thanks 🙏 for this playlist! I am sharing today! God bless!!!
I only recently got into SH4, and bought the game on Steam. Found your videos while looking to see what I could find that showed convoy attacks. I have watched first 5 episodes of this series and it is excellent. Your clear narrative of the action in the campaign is enhanced by the history of the naval action and the war in general.
Perhaps the most amazing is that you manage to put up a good fight with an S-boat! It is obsolete, slow and packs a light punch with only 4 torpedo tubes. But you maneuver the hell out of it and sink ships. I have tried the Asiatic campaign with an s-boat and it was not pretty.
Very good job on video. I served on the USS Houston 713. Been hooked on submarines and their history. Did a great job explaining how everything worked. Also may hate for this I was a sonar tech lmao, and yes when I was in we still have boxing matches with the machinist mates.
As someone else commented, Silent Service on NES was also my first sub "sim" with Silent Hunter 3 following some years later. While I love Uboats there's just something about the Pacific theater that draws me back. Have SH4 installed currently with FotRSU and am "modding" Silent Victory on Tabletop Simulator to include S-boats.
Just finished watching - yeah, the game models moonlight, at least as far as it makes YOU more visible at night. Moonless nights you will find night surface attacks a lot easier. The Ideal is Overcast nights, they are the easiest ;-)
I would have been more mindful but there wasn't an actual moon out so I thought I was safe! I have successfully duped escorts way closer than that in the past, but hey, you win some you lose some.
Listen I know normally on most ships or anything like that there would be a book that would actually tell you on what date the Moon is up and what's going on is that in the game because if that's something modeled that would be something I like to be able to look at a calendar and say okay yeah the moon's supposed to not be out tonight. It's just one of those things if you're not paying attention to it you get your head cut off.
Just discovered the channel. Love the SH games. Subscribed and will enjoy watching the series.
Love the educational and entertainment value!
'Moon ' Chapple was the real life commander of S-38 on this patrol. Her first kill was a Norweigen freighter, though she was credited with a Jspanese ship, the 5400 ton Hiyo Maru.
Retired (in 1997) Nuc MM Chief submariner here. Couldn't agree more with your propulsion statement :)
Nice! What boats were you on?
I was on SSBN-630 and SSN-660. Each for about 5 years.
I’m following you from now on, love this chapter
Silent service, man I forgot about playing that til you mentioned it. I definitely remember part 2 more.
Such a great video, loved the history and roleplaying you are doing. You've earned a sub!
Same
You're content here: Bravo Zulu!! Submariner myself albeit many moons ago 89-93 plank owner USS SCRANTON SSN- 756. Outstanding vid, just subscribed, truly thank you, particularly with the historical aspect.
Wow, isn't that funny: I just moved away from Scranton, PA after living there for 6 years! I didn't even know there was a boat named after it. I'm glad you enjoyed the video, even though it was made by a surface guy lol.
@@devinhorner2358 Ok , Yeah I liked SCRANTON, VFW post I was in had real good people. But it's ok to have an " skimmer" do my Silent Service justice so to speak lol..Great content Sir, please keep'em coming.
Remember playing this game alot in my childhood and was one of my biggest favorite simulator together with Flanker 2.0
This is some REALLY good content! Your insight in absolutely incredible, I feel like I'm watching a documentary.
Man, these are excitingly well done videos. Loving it!
Exciting and very skilfully played ! Well done sir !
Loving the historicity. Look forward to historical info.
Because this video, now I went back to play SH4 again after more than 10 years. This is very knowledgeble and entertain sort of like documentary, Thank you very much.
Subcribed!
Hi Devin - I had no idea you were an SH4 fan too! I love that game still, played the hell out of it, and even got involved with the modding scene on SUBSIM for a few years. Super excited for this series. There are so many fascinating untold stories from the Pacific Submarine theater of operations that I feel do not get the attention they deserve. With your love of history I am sure you will do them justice (eg. the Mark 14 torpedo fiasco, Commander Howard Gilmore's Medal of Honor, the USS Tullibee and USS Tang sinking themselves with their own torpedoes etc etc....). Stoked for this series mate. I have put this in a reply to another comment but will repeat it here too. If you are at all interested in the S Class Submarine operations (Pigboats!) I can also heartily recommend 'Pigboat 39: An American Sub Goes to War'. The story of S39 from the start of the war until her loss in August 1942. Really gives you a feel for how antiquated the sub was (compared to the newer fleetboats), how it was held together by rust and hope, and what the captain and crew went through on her 5 war patrols
SPOILERS!
PS I always loved to start right at the beginning of the war in Manilla with a Pigboat too! You get the feeling you are on the back foot the whole time, the Japanese are advancing and there really doesn't seem to be anything you can do about it. They are like an unstoppable juggernaut. You quickly get rebased to Surabaya, and then only a few months later have to retreat all the way to Australia. It always gave me a feeling for just how desperate the first 6 months of the Pacific war were
Yeah, man, long time fan of the series (though I could never get excited about SH5). I have never known much at all about the S-boats so this was my first deep dive into all that. Very fascinating, and antiquated for sure. Make sure you check out the references on this this one because I found some very specific NAVSEA manuals made for the ships.
@@devinhorner2358 One thing to bear in mind when commanding an S Boat, the hydrophone head is actually on the front deck, rather than beneath the hull, so you won't pick up sound contacts when you are on the surface. In fleetboats (except the early Porpoise Class IIFC) you should get sound contacts whilst on the surface. They mounted the recievers under the hull. Just FYI ;-)
@@DavidKing-ph8or That's true, and you can see 'em sticking out the bottom. I've noticed that the game seems to switch off the hydrophones on the surface no matter what, though. I'll check it out again, but I remember it being the case
Hey mate love your videos, been looking forward to another upload. Keep it up!
I really enjoyed all the information, and cinematic work! Excellent work!
Devin Horner: I have just discovered your channel Sir. What good stuff! I will work my way through the content with pleasure.
Always loved the intro to SH4. It's VERY moody.
Plus it had a working mk -14.
Just stuff like 33:25 , It's so cinematic and adds to the viewing experience massively, I wish more people did shots like this.
Awesome vid, dude! Very detailed and with a lot of awesome information
Reminds me of the good old days watching WinterOwl play SHIV, years back.
I hope you don't run into the same issues a lot of people did with this mod where enemy traffic is so scarce it's outright boring. I played a campaign where I got to 1943 without seeing a single Japanese warship underway, and seeing only one Japanese merchant.
Yikes! Luckily I haven't experienced that before, so hopefully won't be the case here haha. The game doesn't always send you to high traffic areas, so when I hit dry spells I try to head to known convoy lanes. Or areas that seem like they would be more busy
You just brought a flood of old memories of watching Winter owl 8 or so years ago on a shitty laptop under my bed sheets trying to keep the sound on low not to wake up my little brother sleeping on my bed bunk above me.
I haven't thought about Winter Owl in so, so long.
Well, the brass won't be accusing you of not being aggressive...
"Im good shooting from the hip"
fails miserably at shooting from the hip
This is great I hope you keep uploading mate
I miss this game, haven't been able to play it on Win 10 for a while now.
I bought my copy on Steam and it works just fine.
Great video!!! (And history lesson!)
I love this game just got it online through ebay along with a laptop cant wait to raise some hell this weekend
Just discovered your channel I'm a history nerd and I play the game. Can't wait to catch up on these series. Plus ya served on the big E(assuming CVN 65 Enterprise carried on that famous nickname from CV 6) which is a bonus. Never served myself but I respect thoose who do.
Fantastic video my dude! Considering grabbing SH4 now as I've only really played SH3 heavily (GWX, NYGM and LSH3).
Ever read 'Silent Victory' by Clay Blair? I would highly recommend it. Your helmsman looks like he spends his off time doing push ups.
I have not, I'll have to look into it.There's a mountain of books out there, so many good ones you don't even know about. Yeah, he looks like a push up guy for sure LOL.
I remember playing this Game more 10 years ago, and was an incredible experience to me. All the details make like your are in a sub. Great video and thank you for come It back.
I forgot how awesome that game intro is.
That intro gets me every time.
You sir are a genius! I'm off to read Thunder Below! again. 😁
I would also recommend "Silent Running" and "20 Million Tons Beneath the Sea"
@@devinhorner2358 I've got the Barb's war patrol reports too. I started my interest in US subs same as you via Silent Service albeit on the C64. 🙂
I can also heartily recommend 'Pigboat 39: An American Sub Goes to War'. The story of S39 from the start of the war until her loss in August 1942. Really gives you a feel for how antiquated the sub was (compared to the newer fleetboats), how it was held together by rust and hope, and what the captain and crew went through on her 5 war patrols
Thank you for all of the great info you gave about S Boats. I tried to watch this series from another you tuber.....it was awful...he acted like a moron, sank fishing trawlers, attacked ships bow to bow or bow ti stern (consistently as a matter of course). He didnt use the TDC, and plotted courses like a moron.
Your videos (and Wolfpack345) are very good and instructive. You have earned a thumbs up and a sub.
Great start of the campaign.
Wow!!!! This is fantastic! Subbed
Great stuff xD and informative just like sf2 series.
Whitewater in the bow wave was only part of the problem with being visible at night. In those warm tropical waters there were a lot of organisms, plankton and so on, that were phosphorescent, causing a visible, glowing wake that would pinpoint the boat at night to any ships or aircraft in the area for miles around, and that same glowing wake would, of course, dog torpedoes as well. This phosphorescence was also a problem for PT boats.
Great point! I got to see a little bit of that on my own ship. It's wild to see a glowing wake in an otherwise pitch black night
This is extremely entertaining and informative
This is great. Thank you Sir.
1:13:39 He's coming right at you, and he's told his buddies to come with him. He knows where you are. He's coming at you because the instrument of your demise is dropped from the back of his ship. If you are at periscope depth when he drops the ash cans.... I mean, at this point, if you were at test depth when he dropped them... you're still dead. Only thing that can save you, is if Shinji doesn't set the depth on the charges correctly, and nobody finds out.
Passing thermal layer
LOL, that shot next to the Conning Tower probably made your crew crap their pants. Couple days on patrol, and they have to use their reserved clothes already. I think you cured anybody with constipation on that shift.
I researched that captains approach were pretty conservative during the early war, playing it safe. I'm assuming couple of your buddies were on the Arizona and your taking this personal 😂.
Anyways I know these are old videos, but I still enjoy your content
FULL SCREEN FOR THIS GAME?🤔
I swear, I'm going to hear "Passing thermal layer" in my sleep tonight...
Just found your channel thank you so much for all the knowledge and info! I have been playing this game loyally since 2007. How do I mod it and update it and where? Please any help would be greatly appreciated. And thank you for these videos excellent!
I've had this game for years and never really understood how to use the manual targeting, so i'm hoping to learn something new as I still play this game every so often. Also I've never played with any mods, I tried years ago to get the real fleet boat mod working but never had any success and finally I got it to work, but my boat has no deck gun or AA gun? I can assign crew to them but I can't use them or see them on the boat? Can you give any help with that?
Been getting into Uboat a lot (and more recently Cold Waters), it's my first (officially at least) submarine game I've invested time in. The only thing that annoys me about the genre is that it seems almost every sub game on the market focuses on Uboats in the North Atlantic during WW2. Uboats are cool and all but seriously why not something different for a change? Their was an entire theater of operations in the Pacific ocean, you could make a game where you can play as the IJN, US Navy, or Royal Navy with the entire Pacific as your sandbox but nope lets keep pumping out more Uboat's of the 2nd world war. Hell even a 1st world war uboat game would be great. Saying all of this to say I've got SH4 now but am reluctant to play it just yet as it appears to be very intimidating so I'll just stalk youtube.
I have similar feelings. It seems like a large chunk of subsim fans are Uboat fans, which is fine. Nothing wrong with them, but there's so much untapped potential. That's why I like this game so much. Stalking youtube is a great start! Play all the tutorials in "submarine school" in the game, they help explain a lot and let you get a feel for things with no danger. Also keep in mind that this, and probably many, youtube playthroughs are set at high or max difficulty. Try a war patrol or some single missions on easier difficulty and maybe it won't feel so overwhelming :)
I usually play with all difficulties checked besides dud torpedoes and manual tdc, keeps for an immersive play through without the frustration of meticulous aiming and unreliable torpedoes
I would love if Italian subs were an option in a game too. Coincidentally Italian subs sneaked across the Gibraltar strait pretty much at will and they had none of the fear that the German submariners had. Would be a new angle even in the Atlantic.
I agree! SH4 badly needs a true successor to look into the pacific theater of operations
This game is so nostalgic to me
larch1969 nice one thanks david ...ps can you tell me that the binos are please......
Your videos are right up there with Wolfpack345. So well done, This is my second time through your S boat series. And I highly recommend them, Its just good TV! Thanks...
Thanks so much. I put a lot of work into these, so it's very nice to be appreciated! Excited to hear you like them enough to watch again. Sorry the episodes have been slow in coming, I'm hoping to get more out slowly but surely.
Great game, i own it for pc.
What did you do in the navy? Oh, engines?
Just discovered this series! I've been trying to get into SH4, so I'm looking forward to this!
What department were you in on Enterprise? I had roommates (and one roommate's twin brother) who were aboard during your time. I spent that time occasionally parking across Pier 12 or 14 from y'all (when we came out of Newport News).
Also, for the record, the REAL heroes are the EMs who know all the mysterious ways to turn the electricity into roundy-roundy to keep the pointy end going forward and keeping the lights on.
-former EMN1
Some of my best friends were EMs :) I was an M-Div steam plant mechanic (nuke). I worked in 4 Main Machinery Room. I had much more fun my last two years when I went TAD to AIMD and worked in the calibration lab. As an electrician, you might me interested to hear that one of the times WE left Newport News we suffered a loss of all AC power- a casualty we had been told in training we would never see in the modern Navy. Being dead in the water in a giant ship with no lights was a singular experience.
I'd like to see mods for the SH series to include British and Japanese sub sims.
So sorry.... Trim tanks and ballast tanks. Trim meter, yes you got it right but to add on that. The ballast tanks in simple terms controls the depth of submarine. Trim tanks are tied in to the system. Think of a normal level with that air bubble in it. Say we are level but we want to dive the submarine. We need the nose/Bow of the ship to dive down first. So we use the trim water in the trim tanks and fill up the front/ Bow of the ship. In turn sub dive. Opposite 4 surfacing pump water aft and out. Last to add most people do not know this. If a sub turns on its side more then 85 90 degrees it will sink. Think of a drink straw we all did that trick as kids with are finger at the top. Are ballast tanks work the same way there is nothing on the bottom to stop water from filling the tanks.
"Everythings cool, wa- Oh theyre parrelel, OH FUCK THEYRE FIRING"
I took a calculated risk, but man am i bad at math
Machinist Mate, without them nothing could be possible? I think Supply is what you meant to say.
Great intro
I really like the Silent Hunter series especially Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific Gold Edition,
but Silent Hunter I with the Narwhal Class of American submarine with the twin 105mm navy rifles . I hope to see more episodes of Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific from your youtube channel.
like to see devin come back and finish or start a new play
I know it a WWI or post war design. But it's guns and torpedoes work and that more than I can say for the mark-14.
-Is that a Liner? Holy Shit!
-Sire thats a bunch of dark pixels, the hell do you mean
Late to the party but not too late to subscribe.
27:00 - Rather ironic observation considering we lost actual S-Boats this exact way....
Hello what mod is the one that has the engine ahead ring?? I installed a few but no sound thanks
It's nice to hear an American pronounce Portsmouth correctly, not as Ports Mouth. Lol
Regards: From a Former Royal Navy serviceman. ;)
Wow, do people actually say it that way? I've had a lot of exposure to many Portsmouths so I guess I have the training. Also, being from New England we had so many town names from the Old Country that I'm pretty good with their correct pronunciations
Back in 99 we had one of your warships docked alongside at Devonport, Plymouth UK, alot of the ships company had funny ways of pronouncing various English UK names, like Birmingham or as they would call it "Birming-ham lol. Just joined Subsim also, look up Adm Cunningham. That's me!😁👍
I must ask, and yea I know Im late to the party, but whats that mini cannon barrel looking thing on the prow just below the deck?
@Minecraftineer998 I think what you're looking at is the fairlead towing pipe. An attachment point for towing the boat. If you're interested, here's an in depth visual guide to the S- boats. navsource.org/archives/08/pdf/0829290.pdf
I can't figure out how to have both mods active at one time, I have RSRDC, but can't figure out how to run RFB 2.0 with it. What do I do
Wasn't at west of the International Dateline, the Pacific War started at 8th December 1941?
How are you able to move around the command room? What mod(s)?
Hello! I have a question, are you able to hear depth charge splashes when you’re within the submarine? Something I always have trouble with in this game is that your sonar man doesn’t tell you when DC s are in the water.
Yeah, I wish they would call that out too. I don't think you hear splashes under water. Maybe if you're closer to the surface, but normally I'm listening for the change in screw speed.
@@devinhorner2358 that makes sense, I know in TMO they made it so you could hear the splashes to give you a bit more advanced warning. Damn lazy sonarmen!
@@devinhorner2358 loving the series so far though, keep up the good work man :)
It would have been December 8 in Manila, when Pearl Harbor attacked. Manila is on the other side of the International Date Line from Hawaii.
Where is the best place to purchase this now, the steam version is apparently unable to be updated. Been playing uboat but dont like playing as germans.
Oh wow, didn't know that. I'd say look around and try to get a physical box version. Just looked at the Ubisoft store and it looks like you could get it from them directly. Amazon might have it too, though I don't know that for sure.