My Experience Buying a Gibson SG at Guitar Center

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  • Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024

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  • @HeadbangersLocal
    @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

    PART 2 IS OUT ! - ruclips.net/video/nkxP19KXdes/видео.html

  • @EchoToVoice
    @EchoToVoice 4 месяца назад +7

    I bought a 2020 cherry SG Standard with the bat wing pickguard a few months ago. It was my fourth one and the most disappointing of the bunch - strings were dead, had too much relief and (sweat?) smears on the body. Easy to fix but terrible first impression, no "bond" off the bat. About half a turn on the truss rod, new strings and a little elbow grease with a wipe and the action is low, neck is flat and it rings.
    It's not unreasonable to expect more from a guitar at those prices, even with the Gibson QC gossip out there, but this guitar, used, is worth the minimal extra effort, IMO.

  • @Earthshaker1965
    @Earthshaker1965 4 месяца назад +3

    Very nice looking SG! Give that baby a good setup.

  • @rockerbuck967
    @rockerbuck967 5 месяцев назад +5

    Guitar Center is known for selling B-stock stuff. Two guitars I bought there ended up having issues and sold later. After that, I never bought guitars there again. But that's just me - maybe I just had that bad of luck lol. Either way, luckily I have a closer dealer that services what he sells and really knows his stuff.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  5 месяцев назад +2

      I used to buy from them all the time back in the 90s . Their prices went up and quality went down . I’m still evaluating this one . They do have an awesome return policy though, so that’s why I did it .
      Thanks for watching 🤘🏻

    • @cmichalski420
      @cmichalski420 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@HeadbangersLocaltheres guitars r all b stock usally and 100s off ppl playes it before u got it never biy from them only amps and pedals i have a 22 sg ebony its perfect no guitar is perfect buy a firefly tell me whqy u think

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад

      @@cmichalski420 I used to own a firefly 335 copy . It was pretty good for the price . I sold it because it just amounted to not comfortable playing that shape .

  • @ronnie5129
    @ronnie5129 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for this video here, What I have Experienced @ Guitar Center is, I Think that they buy huge amounts of Guitars from Gibson, For A Lower Price, That Gibson does Not want to sell from their Website,

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for watching 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @crucifixgym
    @crucifixgym 4 месяца назад +4

    Nice, just needed to loosen the truss rod a quarter turn and it was perfect! Hope you gotta good deal on it.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +3

      According to what I saw on other sites it was decent. Not great , but fair I would say .
      I needed to tweak it a little more , but it’s good know .

  • @ShawnShipstad
    @ShawnShipstad 2 месяца назад +1

    It looks like you got a good one with a nice fretboard. I have seen some where the fretboard looks like pale sandpaper. I hope you got a great price. Best of luck.

  • @nellayema2455
    @nellayema2455 4 месяца назад +1

    You got that one sorted out in short order. That truss rod nut is usually called an "acorn" nut. Gibson uses tailpieces and bridges from Advanced Plating. The bridges are stamped API. Fakes don't usually have a 1-piece neck. Also, for some reason they don't get the Gibson logo right--the slant is wrong. You're right; they're getting a lot of the more obvious details correct these days. Nice guitar!

  • @6stringlounge813
    @6stringlounge813 4 месяца назад +2

    Nice Guitar. Just wanted you to look out for something. On at least half of the SGs I’ve played since 2020, on the G string between the 10th 11th and 12th Frets and sometimes the 13th fret, there are dead spots. As far as I know, there is no way to fix this. So if your Guitar has this issue you should return it and just keep looking for a good one. good luck and have fun.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +2

      Interesting. After the setup I don’t seem to have this issue. What is that from , bad neck joints ? Warped wood?

  • @vavra541
    @vavra541 3 месяца назад +1

    Man, I try not to buy guitars from GC too but I get tempted by the used wall from time to time too. Happened to me yesterday actually. I’ve given up on expecting any kind of care put into anything on the floor, and as long as they have a decent selection of quality parts I’ll grab as much as I can to fix little issues myself. Did that with the Jericho I snagged yesterday for a completely offensive steal (thank goodness most employees don’t know much, let alone about smaller brands like that).
    Last year I bought two different SG’s, one is an original Voodoo series and the other is the more recent “reissue”/tribute version - neither came from a GC. GC issues aside, I’ve noticed on SG’s in general that every individual tweaks them to their preference. 9 times out of 10 whatever has been done throws them WAY out of spec and honestly just astounds me that someone was able to play either one with the wonkiness I’ve seen between my two and years of friends buying them and me helping set them up or loaning tools for them to adjust their new finds. So I definitely agree that it’s shameful GC put yours out the way it was, but a whole bunch of ignorant SG buyers are honestly just as much to blame imo.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the comment. Yeah I’ve got it pretty much set up to my perfect specs now and I agree there’s no way that they could set it up to be perfect for everybody that walks in and plays it. I’ve never bought a guitar off the shelf, anywhere my entire life that that I just left and never adjusted in some capacity, however, very rarely do I go into a store to look at a guitar and I can’t even play the thing I’m sure a lot of people may be inexperienced. Probably passed on that SG because it had issues.

  • @6stringlounge813
    @6stringlounge813 4 месяца назад +2

    To be honest, I’m not sure what it’s from. According to some of the luthiers in my area. It could be a little bit of everything you mentioned. I’m thinking bad neck joint. I also had one Lier suggest that it may do with the fretboard wood that they are using. I haven’t gone on any forums to investigate it further, however, I only personally noticed it since 2020. It might be interesting to find out if it’s an inherent problem with the design in general. Great video by the way, great channel.

  • @matthewsommerville88
    @matthewsommerville88 4 месяца назад +1

    I got the exact model in 2022 at GC. I tried it out and it was a player, highly resonate, “disappeared” in my hands and I was in love. Then I saw a small ding that cut through the finish on the headstocks left side next to the G in Gibson. I stayed in the store around 4 hours, long enough to talk staff into giving me an employee discount! I walked out with it for $1200, brand new. Took it to my luthier and the ding doesn’t comprise the integrity at all. It is my #1 because it just sings man and disappears in my hands. Point of the story is this: 1.) Don’t write off a guitar because it could be your soul mate 2.) Guitar Center will put a guitar up that warrants a discount and if you’re lucky it’ll take 4 hours to talk them into it and ONLY when they use their employee discount lmao.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      Nice! I’ve managed to dial this one in fairly well so far . Had to tweak it a few more times since initial setup. I wish GC would give the mil discount on used stuff . They don’t though. Only new 👎🏻.
      Thanks for watching 🤘🏻

    • @matthewsommerville88
      @matthewsommerville88 4 месяца назад +1

      @@HeadbangersLocal Yeah man, GC is bonkers for being so hardline on their prices ESPECIALLY given their reputation. They could easily modify some policies that would improve their standing with all us cranky players lol

  • @garyfarrell954
    @garyfarrell954 4 месяца назад +2

    i got an epi lp 1959 and i had the same problem. hard to believe they don't make things playable before the put them on the floor

  • @eddiejr540
    @eddiejr540 4 месяца назад +1

    Advanced Plating or API is a Nashville company that supplies the bridges and tail pieces to Gibson…so you’re good there

  • @Jakeman90210
    @Jakeman90210 4 месяца назад +2

    Yeah, guitar center is like a landlord. They do the minimum amount of maintenance/upkeep as possible. They don't do anything unless it gets the money directly.

  • @RickDeNatale
    @RickDeNatale 4 месяца назад

    I would top wrap the strings. Also to me TRAIN is tuning, relief (truss rod), action (nut and bridge height), intonation (bridge saddles)
    , noodle.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад

      I guess I just assumed everyone tunes the guitar first anyway. I mean , how can you do anything else if the guitar isn’t tuned? 🤔
      I know . Bold of me to assume that 😂🤘🏻🤘🏻thanks for watching

  • @dougboal7425
    @dougboal7425 4 месяца назад +1

    Are you in AZ by chance? The Guitar Centers in the valley are hit and miss. For example, the Tempe guitar center is immaculate while the Scottsdale one has rows of beat up and rusted guitars.

  • @Gorilla.Guitar
    @Gorilla.Guitar 4 месяца назад +2

    the pickup angle on those guard mounted p/ups sucks. i have the same thing in black & i invested time in modding mine to pull them at same angle to strings.. i can see yours has the same issue.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +2

      Interesting 🤔. Thanks for the advice

    • @joecooper7803
      @joecooper7803 4 месяца назад +1

      Me too , should have the solder less pickups and a board

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +2

      @@joecooper7803 it does have a board . I believe I show it in the video

    • @joecooper7803
      @joecooper7803 4 месяца назад

      @@HeadbangersLocal
      Yeah I kept watching 👍. Picked up a used Pelham Blue one expecting that but someone swapped it out for vip pots, pio caps and hand wound PU’s ! ok nickel covers gave me hint something was up

  • @1969Donovan
    @1969Donovan 5 месяцев назад +2

    Advanced plating is real.

  • @muddyh2o240
    @muddyh2o240 5 месяцев назад +1

    As someone who likes their tailpiece slammed, I would top wrap personally, either way works fine though. That's always been something that has irked me about Gibson, their neck angles are a bit all over the place.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  5 месяцев назад +1

      Absolutely. I’ll probably try that in the next string change .
      Thanks for watching 🤘🏻

  • @MrCalifornia0
    @MrCalifornia0 4 месяца назад

    Nice video. Not boring at all. Good reminder about the Chibson. What is different about the wiring?
    I just bought one online from a small business. I’ll be sure to check it over when it arrives

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      The wiring was just different than what I’m used to seeing . My Les Paul is a 2004 model and doesn’t have that circuit board in there . This is the first modern Gibson I’ve Owned .
      Thanks for watching 🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @gordon9177
    @gordon9177 4 месяца назад +1

    the 2 things they considered bad on your Warren D. guitar, that's our society now. People are just fault finders and just looking for any reason to knock someone down.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      lol totally 😂 . “Strings are upside down. And it’s out of tune” 🤔

  • @andyy6481
    @andyy6481 3 месяца назад +1

    when you buy a guitar, don't they offer to do a setup for you?

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  3 месяца назад +1

      I’ve never been offered a free set up by guitar center my entire life . Come to think of it , I’ve never been offered a free set up anywhere . Of course , I rarely buy guitars from a store . The last guitar I purchased from guitar center was about 4 years ago . I mostly buy used from people .

  • @sempercompellis
    @sempercompellis 4 месяца назад +1

    a set up takes 10 minutes (barring the need to file the nut).. I don't think i ever bought a guitar that was set up to my specs..operative word(s)..to my specs...everyone plays with different specs...i like my action a tad higher than most.. Whats the issue.? If you have a SG that doesn't neck dive (too much-lol) it is a keeper;; otherwise...what?

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      It was not playable . I agree setups are pretty simple . I didn’t want to get home and find some other issue like high frets or something that would require a lot more work since I didn’t really get to play it .

  • @MrDussek
    @MrDussek 4 месяца назад +1

    Great video. I understand your criticisms of both Gibson and GC. I work at GC as a Team Sales Lead (manager), so I can assure you that the bad setup comes from a number of factors: Gibson qc, environmental factors, in-store customers, overload workflow for our techs, etc. From your video it seems your local GC is a bit out of control haha. Our techs are supposed to always setup the higher end instruments (as opposed to Squiers and Epiphones) if they aren’t already from the manufacturer. Every now and then a guitar will slip through the cracks and will be a loud minority for how we operate. Usually if you tell a team member that a guitar on the wall desperately needs a setup, they will do it. I hope all is well with your SG! Also, from the first few seconds of the video I knew 1000% that it was a real one since it’s what I specialize at my store! haha if you have any other problems you’d like to address regarding your experience please let me know so I can relay the right information to you.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for the info and response! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻. This guitar was used , so I can’t blame Gibson in this one . At least not for the set up issue . Especially after he told me “ we charge customers for a set up if the guitar needs it on trade “ Ok WTF happened here? You’re gonna switch my Charvel strings because they’re “upside down” but you can’t make an expensive guitar at least playable ? I’ve gotten good deals at that guitar center before . I actually bought my helix there .
      Thanks for watching 🤘🏻

  • @BostonWhoFan515
    @BostonWhoFan515 4 месяца назад +1

    It might be set on classic tone, but the gain is turned up way to much. I also always get a nut replacement on all my gibsons. Even if it's already a graphtech nut, I get a bone nut fitted. Fender usa already does it. I have an SG Special with P90s. Same color as yours. Nice guitar.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      The pickups in there are pretty hot . That tone sounds good with other lower output pickups , just not this one .

    • @BostonWhoFan515
      @BostonWhoFan515 4 месяца назад

      @HeadbangersLocal pickups epual output. Not necessarily dustortion. Early beakup, maybe, but not distortion. Just turn the gain down. Or do what you want. Just don't blame the pickups. if I had to guess it's those 490/498 set. Those aren't too hot at all. I like them. Middle of the road. Like a JB/jazz set. They're not gonna put flaming hot pickups in an SG std.

  • @michaeldery7141
    @michaeldery7141 4 месяца назад +1

    From what I have read online, the first 2 digits of the 9 digit serial number on a Gibson SG indicates the year that it was built. Your serial number starts with 22. Do you have a 2022 instead of a 2020?

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +2

      Yes , actually it is a 22 upon my research as well .

  • @user-hc8cl2ez9m
    @user-hc8cl2ez9m 4 месяца назад +1

    Why did u buy it? U saw it with issues. Just go to a large company online. They even check the QC

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      I don’t like buying guitars online anymore. Too many bad experiences. Plus , I can return it right down the road if I end up not liking it . Don’t have to worry about shipping it back.

  • @mikefarrell7985
    @mikefarrell7985 4 месяца назад +1

    Isn’t the setup Gibsons Issue? They let it leave the factory like that. Yeah bonus if a shop does a setup but if it’s jacked up, birch at Gibson.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      It’s used , so can’t really blame Gibson on this one .

  • @jimjim7008
    @jimjim7008 4 месяца назад +1

    When a guitar has QC issues that's when you know it's Gibson. If it looks perfect that's when I suspect whether it's real Gibson or not.

  • @nerfnerfification
    @nerfnerfification 4 месяца назад +1

    You should NOT be happy with it - the bridge is far too high and since all else is adjusted to specs, it appears the neck set angle is too acute ie was faulty from new. I'd return it for a refund.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад

      It actually plays a lot better now . It took about a week for everything to settle in it seems . Thanks for watching 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      It actually plays a lot better now . It took about a week for everything to settle in it seems . Thanks for watching 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @thebipolarbear1
    @thebipolarbear1 4 месяца назад +1

    Should sound way better for the money. Overdrive was good. Do you still have it?

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      I do . I still have until mid May to decide.

    • @Gorilla.Guitar
      @Gorilla.Guitar 4 месяца назад +1

      @@HeadbangersLocal does it have the 490 pickups in it?.. mine did & i happened to have a set of rolph paf replicas kickin around so i swapped them. made a huge difference. if classic rock is your tone you would appreciate the swap.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      @@Gorilla.Guitar I don’t know unfortunately. I forgot to check them when I changed the strings 🤦‍♂️

  • @finishin.my.coffee8780
    @finishin.my.coffee8780 4 месяца назад +1

    After getting an Epiphone "Old Glory" Les Paul from GC in 2020, I'll never buy another guitar from them again. The quality was putrid.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +2

      Yea I think I’m gonna end up returning this one to be honest .

    • @finishin.my.coffee8780
      @finishin.my.coffee8780 4 месяца назад +1

      @@HeadbangersLocal Best of luck with the next one!

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 3 месяца назад +1

    You should have asked them for $50 refund for the setup and new strings, it works both ways!

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  3 месяца назад +2

      I did at least get a free set of strings 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup 4 месяца назад +2

    Buying a guitar, and not receiving a free setup is hilarious. GC is a trash company. No one should be buying anything from them. Hope you enjoy the guitar though.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      Agreed . I’ve tweaked it a little more . Still not sure if I’m keeping it. Thanks for watching 🤘🏻

  • @fletcher75er
    @fletcher75er 4 месяца назад +1

    ... And it's not even one of those terrible terrible things( Gibson owns) called Epiphone. Seems like my Epi is actually as good as I thought after all. I'll never buy another Gibson after owning this 2022 epi for 599, not 2999

    • @fletcher75er
      @fletcher75er 4 месяца назад +1

      But besides that loved the vid, guitar center is sucky

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +2

      Yea I have a few Epiphones as well . This Gibson is definitely not $1,000 + better than this Gibson.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +2

      I appreciate it! Thanks for watching 🤘🏻

    • @fletcher75er
      @fletcher75er 4 месяца назад +1

      No problem, love the vids

  • @gregoaks4413
    @gregoaks4413 4 месяца назад +2

    fretboard looks very light like a Epiphone Indian laurel needs darkening

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      It darkened up pretty good once I oiled it . Still a little on the light side though .

  • @eddiejr540
    @eddiejr540 4 месяца назад +2

    Guitar Center really is a shit show…their return policy is all they really have going for them…glad it all worked out!!

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +2

      Yea , literally the only reason I bought it was the policy . Thanks for watching 🤘🏻

  • @georgek4gjn777
    @georgek4gjn777 4 месяца назад +1

    Typical GC I would never buy guitars from them. They never give a case. I know they come with a hard case or gig bag but they sell it separately.
    I buy all my stuff from Sweetwater.
    You live and learn.

  • @jltrem
    @jltrem 4 месяца назад +3

    You're surprised that a Gibson had QC issues? Really?

    • @Jakeman90210
      @Jakeman90210 4 месяца назад +2

      Yeah they spit out 300 guitars a day, and this SG is a low end guitar to say the least. I had one, and I should've saved my money by getting a Korean guitar of the same price.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      More GC than Gibson, really . Yea the paint is Gibson’s fault , but everything else is on Guitar Center. The guitar was used, so can’t blame Gibson for the bad setup and presentation.

  • @RyanMcQuen
    @RyanMcQuen 4 месяца назад +1

    Gibson is just so overpriced ... I have an SG, but man, Gibson's QC is laughable.

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +2

      Agreed . I have a 2003 Les Paul . 21 years later it’s still better than this SG .

  • @blakewilkerson9695
    @blakewilkerson9695 4 месяца назад +1

    Why the hell even buy it, if it’s so horrible…. Absolute such an ignorant buy 😂

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      Th same reason people buy old cars . Also , this exact guitar is hard to find used in my area . 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @blakewilkerson9695
      @blakewilkerson9695 4 месяца назад +1

      @@HeadbangersLocal there’s hundreds of them for sale online… you paid a used price that’s set… all to make a video on complaining about it…

    • @HeadbangersLocal
      @HeadbangersLocal  4 месяца назад +1

      @@blakewilkerson9695 yea , I don’t buy guitars online . Too many bad experiences.