The CM Punk & Elite Drama
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2022
- The CM Punk & Elite Drama. What in the world is happening with AEW?
The AEW drama continues to get worse. After defeating Jon Moxley to become the new AEW World Champion and MJF making a surprise return, CM Punk made some wild comments at the media scrum press conference. After the press conference, CM Punk headed back to his locker room. The Elite confronted him about the comments he made about them.
They were clearly unhappy about the situation. They got in Punk’s face and they got too close because Punk started swinging multiple punches at Nick Jackson. It’s unclear how threatening they seemed, but it is heavily reported that CM Punk started the physical aspect of the altercation. What makes things even crazier is that CM Punk’s coach/producer, Ace Steele that was featured on AEW Dynamite last week, got involved making matters much worse.
He reportedly threw a chair at Nick Jackson’s face that legitimately knocked him out cold. Steele then pulled Kenny Omega’s hair before biting him as well. The fight had to be broken up by multiple people backstage who say it was extremely physical and brutal. The locker room has been heavily divided because of this.
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Honestly, I'm not mad at the elite or Punk. The person I hold specifically responsible for all of this is Tony Khan. It's his responsibility to manage his talent. If there are backstage problems like people leaking false reports, starting physical fights, or people going into business for themselves, it is Tony Khan's responsibility to put a pin in those things. He has shown that he can't control his own company. That is quite embarrassing.
yes, i agree. Tony gave them that power, it's his fault. he has to be the man but he's too nice...too nice, gets you nowhere. don't be an asshole, sure...but doens't mean, you can't be a firm and kind leader...no nice needed..nice gets you in shit
The guy can't even fire someone over the phone. He just ghosts people when he doesn't want to use them anymore. There are a ton of experienced people on the payroll who should be in direct management positions and have a bigger hand in creative.
cm punk is causing problems for everyone
@@angel-ij4xv No hes not...
@@angel-ij4xv Yup
“FUCK THE ELITE AS A RECORD LABEL AND AS A CREW” - CM PUNK
#punkpac #cmakaveli
CM-PAC
@@theeXodusof730 You just read my mind "and if ya down for the elite, fuck you too" 😂
TUPUNK
Poopunk
Man, I know CM punk went to far but i can't stop laughing at that press conference and Tony's reaction just made it 1000× better.
Shawn what are your thoughts on this AEW drama going in rn?
@@RedHoodFrmGotham question where did Plana get that picture of John cena on his RUclips page????
Its sad cuz that says alot about Tony during the press conference that he has no control of him.
Facts
Punk went too far? They caused the bullshit they got what they deserved fuck the elite
Make mark Henry, Paul white, William regal, or Jim Ross an evp. They've worked with the literal best in the business, it doesn't make sense these guys don't have a big say. Those four have more credentials than anyone else on that roster.
Tony should’ve done that ages ago. All of that experience and he depends on Kenny and The Young Bucks
Yeah you have all those veterans there, yet no one is an EVP, TK should put a structure and put people who aren't active wrestlers no more and can add so much value to the product with their experience. TK is really losing control of his own company, because too much freedom for the wrestlers that comes with a low level of structure will be the catalyst of AEW's demise.
Your acting like aew knows what they're doing
William Regal and Mark Henry, like many, are wasted in AEW
@@mausthehokage they were using the lack of structure and the thin roster to their advantage to compete against WWE that has a bloated roster with a very rigid structure. It was their strategy at first, but that comes with a price, especially after paying every single free agent to come to your company, without having a structure or a vision or some set of guidelines, not to mention how much power was given to the wrestlers to decide stuff around, everything bubbled up and now we are seeing the first hick of the barely existent system. A change is definitely needed, else it would just a WCW situation all over again.
CM punk: comes to AEW
Cody Rhodes: leaves AEW
*things start to go crazy in AEW
*WWE is starting to be pretty good
Rhodes is just a visionary at this point.
Tbh both Punk and The Elite can both be annoying. All I heard is whining, even Cody predicted this craziness a year ago. I think there is a video of Cody predicting that. Plus Wcw died due to people's ego and AOL. Hopefully AEW doesn't follow that same route.
Well they probably will if Tony Khan doesn't deal with the drama with cm punk and the evps
@@checkersworldfedration9780 Yeah Punk is really becoming a big issue.
@@stsolomon618 and the young bucks
@@memberberry033 yeah they can annoying too.
@@stsolomon618 they need to settle it & be done with it like men
This CM Punk, Elite issue has been crazy these past few days, looking forward to seeing what happens tonight at Dynamite
Little Indian boy
You should inform all the info about the situation.
1. Bucks kicked the door open. Proven false info
2. Larry the dog and steels INJURED wife was in that room. True
3. Three people conforted 1 person (bucks went to punk and kenny was in hallway by the info what I have read)
4. Ace heard his injured wife screaming and he rushed in. (Hearsay
And he bit omega and pulled his hair (unpofessional)
5. Punk acted unprofessional (True and threw first punch
6. Bucks acted somewhat unprofessional and did not let things cooldown.
Also by info omega kept Larry safe (thumbs up)
Everyone is to blame in this situation not just punk
Edited info whats have been told by journalist and info that they have (witness etc)
Thanks everyone for correcting what I have read wrong
Injured and pregnant
@@MrReganomics1 that I did not know that she is pregnant.
Then i understand Ace's reaction even more
I was surprised Ace bit and Larry the Dog didnt
But mainly punk
@@GrizzlyProdTM not really, both are guilty, hangman going into business for himself, the false bullshit coming out about punk getting cabana fired, which let's be honest, probably because of professional jealousy from the elite, cm punk is a dick but he told no lies in that media scrum and then the elite kicking the door down, no surprised a brawl broke out
Vince McMahon and undertaker was right there’s a reason why there was always a locker room leader at wwe , in wrestling everyone’s ego is inflated as fuck they need someone to put them in check , Aew has none of that .hate vince or not he at least was threatening enough to keep wwe wrestlers in check
Definitely agree that there needs to be key figures between the lockerroom and the promoter. Part of this is speculation, but I believe Cody used to be that guy for aew along with The Elite. With Cody’s exodus, there is a bit of a void and when the dispute in the locker room is between EVPs and Punk, it’s an awkward situation.
Going forward I think TK may rely on Mox or Jericho a bit more given their experience. The Elite could be stripped of their EVP roles depending on how the investigation goes.
Punk has really showed his true nature lately, I understand better what happened in WWE back then and why Cody left, the guy is a poison.
Also he's really an hypocrite to be mad at Page while he did many shoot promos himself.
I didn't see it from this angle. Tony's face is just priceless. He's like the Everything Is Fine dog.
Tony is really losing his control over his wrestlers especially CM Punk. He’s letting him get away from his bad attitude and causing a personal experience towards the wrestlers backstage. They should really fire this jerk. His rotten behaviour is causing a problem.
Why would they fire their best wrestler? Legit makes no sense. He is the best wrestler even still in aew or wwe you sound crazy
@@jareejones lol
Being the ceo not only means you have the power to just controll them it also means you have to manage them and look the problems they are having, the colt cabana rumors was going on even before he got injured nobody was able to stop it and if you go by the words of punk evps themeselves spreaded them If any of talent facing a problem like this and you were unable to deal with it you'll lost all the authority and respect from the talent
Everyone seems to miss the significance of Page's promo. The second he said those words about saving AEW from Punk you could watch the look on Punk's face to know that was going to be a major issue going forward. That wasn't Page messing up the dynamic of who is heel and who was face. That was Page reading Punk the riot act as the official AEW welcoming committee. I can definitely see where Punk is coming from if there's backstage politics and unconfirmed rumors at play but at the same time a lot of that would never happened if Khan had everyone do a sit down prior to signing Punk.
CM Punk waited to confront the media with Colt and the EVPs because they were the ones who started all this drama while Punk was being accused of crap. The media scrum is the perfect place to let this all out, this is what the media is for and especially being they are the ones who have spread these false accusations about him
cm punk is done in aew
The thing is kevin owens also said the same shit about punks behaviour backstage
@@Rvu72 why do you think you rely on that guy being the comany he works have the practise to control what their talents are saying
You would think he’d follow his own advice and take care of the situation backstage. Having a meltdown in a public forum isn’t the best way to get things handled.
@@scottblanco5991 so addressing the media about every lie & rumor that was spread by these children & a guy going into business for himself over a guy you used to be friends with & aren’t anymore is a meltdown? Buddy pick up a Webster’s dictionary
Fire the EVPS. Fire CM Punk. Fire Ace Steel. Restore order and MAKE AEW GREAT AGAIN
😳😳😳
You mean remove them from their positions as EVPs right? Because firing The Elite altogether is a step too far. Punk and Ace Steel kinda deserve it though
@@name3236 well that depends on if they came to Punk’s locker room looking for a fight. Because to me it looks like they did. Why fire punk if the Elite instigated a fight?
@@grape_nation I guess, but it seems like they just stormed his room in a rage because of Punk’s comments
Punk got his feelings hurt and took out on everyone, he really is a Punk.🤷🏽♂️
“I feel like most people forgot about it a few days later”
“Fans are starting to think Triple H was right back in 2011”
So forgetful they forget to forget lol
The fact is Tony Khan might have established AEW with a positive intent of bringing another wrestling promotion which will give fans the experience of hardcore wrestling and opportunities to all the wrestlers. But as AEW gained a good fanbase and attention, even since then Tony Khan has been taking things as "Competition to WWE". His perspective has changed and now he feels that WWE is their years-old-rival and they should beat WWE at all cost to make themselves relevant. His only goal now is to defeat WWE in every aspect and to gain global audience by mentioning WWE over and over again and by doing cheap tactics. He feels money can help him to reach the level where WWE is.
Over the years there has been a shift in Tony's perspective from "Building another wrestling promotion and giving the new faces a platform to flourish" to "Defeating WWE at all cost and taking shots at all the things WWE does"
You know the worst part of your argument is? I agree with it fully.
AEW is such a mess right now. And unless Tony stops acting like a doormat and steps up as a boss, the company will fall apart just like WCW did in its dying days.
Am I the only one who thinks Tony is probably doing multiple lines of coke before every media scrum lol?
@@AdamLanegan195 L
I thought that Vince Mcmahon banning AEW name from TV was kinda ridiculous, but actually it seems I was wrong. He was totally right about it.
@@User71956 TRUE
They completely overshadowed mjf return
Kinda ironic ain't it?
He got Wardlow'd
MJF needs to leave like Cody did
I'm pretty sure he blew it out of proportion because they slandered his name by starting the rumors that Colt Cabana was removed because of him. He wasn't wrong about anything he said about the EVP's. Shouldn't have escalated to violence though
i dont know why people are so angry about Punk responding to people slandering him. ive seen people say he shouldve kept it private that became impossible when the leaks happened. sure he got a bit to heated and angry, probably through being tired, but at the end of the day, who wouldnt be angry? that being said, if he actually did knock someone out? thats fucked.
The elite are bullies and punk was not gonna have any of it, so he stood up for himself as you should against bullies otherwise it will get worse as time goes on
Lmao funny when cmpunk has no proof of anything yet his marks believe him even though he's always been a drama queen since ring of honor...maybe he shouldn't be such a pos to his friends then.
@@havuseenmymonkey6663 yeah such a big man to keep calling out people who can't respond to him like a little wuss.
They’ve helped AEW reach many Milestones through being Phenomenal “managers”, so he was absolutely wrong about that.
In the words of Harvey Dent
Either you die as hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
He never was a hero.
@@TemujinTheKhan I mean he’s kinda was
@@TemujinTheKhan I mean y’all treat him like one after that pipebomb and when he was gone from wrestling y’all still were chanting for his name
i dunno man, i feel like everyone was anti the elite until CM punk came out as anti elite, now everyone seems to be pro elite again.
I'm anti elite, they're trash
They are just showing how fickle they are.
they wasn’t elite to begin with
I still hate them and think that the should be excised from the top of the card if they ever want the company to grow beyond a niche fanbase.
Controversy creates cash : Eric Bischoff
I’m not against him standing up for himself with the colt business, I don’t care.
But it’s clear he thinks everyone else at AEW is beneath him. The way he talks to his boss, to the way he describes the up and coming talent is really bad.
“Against pricks”
Mate they’re going out of their way to put you over and make you look good, stop biting the hand
How so?
Those evp clowns ARE beneath him. He's a bigger star than any of them ever have been or ever will be.
@@Orange6921 hahahahahahah. That is only because he was in WWE. put Kenny Omega in WWE and I garuntee he will be a bigger star than punk.
“Going out of way to put u over” tell that to hangman adam page. I’m not supporting punk’s actions, everyone’s at fault.
@@Marowakie how many more wrestlers has he fought from AEW mate ?
I loved CM Punk. and it pains me to say that in past tense.
This isn't CM Punk i loved back in 2011-2014.
Mwahaha you love cm punk back when he doesnt love wwe where he worked?
@@oneforalladm217 buddy.
It's my own reference. I liked his promo back then and somewhat agreed that he wasn't treated well enough. Even when he became WWE champion and the 3rd reign is among the longest. I loved the character. not really the man potraying.
The bottomline is: MY OWN REFERENCE. You can laugh as much as you want but it's true that lots loved CM Punk back then. Not the drama queen residing in AEW.
He’s always been this guy. There’s stories going back decades about his behavior.
@@hothotheat3000 yes. I heard about that.
But as i said, i loved him back then as a character.
he is the exact cmpunk that takes no crap from anyone and isn't afraid to speak his mind. you're just an elite fanboy
we all thought triple h was wrong about punk and here we are now
In my opinion Punk is the problem unfortunately
There seems to be a through-line with this stuff and the EVPs that nobody is really investigating. From Cody to Christopher Daniels and now this.
What are you suggesting?
@@cevcena6692 Punk is not the first talent to take issue with the back-biting political nature of “the EVPs”. I can also guarantee that this wasn’t the first time Tony had heard complaints about their behavior, let alone from Punk.
@@tadhg82 Tbf AEW is not the first company that had higher ups hate Punk's guts
@@cevcena6692 that’s true. People in positions of power generally don’t have good feelings towards underlings who know their value and act accordingly.
Honestly if this keeps up I could see The Elite leaving AEW just like Cody Rhodes did which would be a huge loss for AEW. As unfortunate it maybe, Omega vs Styles anybody👀
No. I doubt Triple H would want to have those three who are part of the problem on the other side of the fence where the grass is dry and lit up from all the heat going on backstage
WWE should stay away from the Elite if they are free agents.
Dude how would it be unfortunate. It's unfortunate that people actually think the elite are a draw. They have never drawn a rating. And even ran off 200k worth of viewers during the non cm punk main event 2 week's ago on dynamite. How can talent or supposed to be talented people. Loose there company. Veiwers week after week. Then all your net marks. Praise them like there a draw in any way. Hhh don't want that shit. No one does. Past the people like you who are convinced this shit they do Is wrestling
The elite caused the drama dude lol why do you think cody left, he didn't want to deal with them, the so called evps caused the situation and idiots are defending them, they don't draw a dime, punk does, mjf does, elite doesn't, facts.
Hell yeah, I'd pay for Omega vs. Styles.
The 1st half of 2022 was anti wwe the 2nd half anti aew
A double turn!
Okay important question did all this drama start when CM punk got signed to AEW? Thanks
Tony should fire Crybaby Punk ASAP
Agreed
It should be noted that the dirt sheets that reported on the cabana thing have all said it wasn’t the bucks who they got it from. It was considered just something they heard a few behind the scenes people say and ran with it … which is about the level of journalism that usually goes on in wrestling.
@Josafat Uribe I mean that’s speculating and perhaps reaching. Until someone besides Punk says that’s what happened it’s just a he said/she said.
That sounds like modern journalism as a whole not just in wrestling.
You really think the dirt sheet writers are telling the truth about where they get their information from ?
@@stealthmode1303 considering it’s how they usually write 90% of their stories, yes.
Go on what is provable and consistent, not on what your favorite celebrity said despite everyone else saying otherwise.
If The Elite really leaked out those false reports, TK's gotta punish them. What's a fair punishment?
Making them wrestle properly and stick to matches that make sense . They would feel like they are in hell
Stripping them of the "EVP" roles would be a good start.
Suspension and demotion to being just a wrestler is must..
@@thegent8916 ...and pushing their crap down card or to ROH. Ratings for their trios segments have showed the there's a segment of the audience avoiding them since Omega came back. A lot of people are sick of their act, and the indie stuff is holding the entire promotion back.
If they book this right it could be amazing. I’m more interested in settling a real feud and not knowing what’s gonna happen in the ring, rather than 2 bros fake feuding leading to a fake fight. Dynamite is pretty much must see TV now
Wkwkwk go watch ufc instead dude. Aew is the same as wwe, they are profesional wrestling entertainer.
Not going to happen cause of all the egos involved
They all stormed in on Punk he was right to attack them. This Steel guy walked into a room with his wife screaming and his best friend vs 3 guys. Fair play to them. If I'd had been there the young bucks and hangman would be dead.
Cm Punk is the Kanye West of wrestling and the scariest thing is that both of them come from Chicago
Trust me thats the Chicago effect on a normal human
Wow great eyes
They should partner up and say shit cause am starting to think that punk needs help
Problem with AEW is that they don't have an Undertaker to stop shit like this backstage.
EXACTLY, he literally made the MJF return an after thought and basically killed the 'storyline' before it even started, sure the marks may still wanted, but it's not growing an audience like it should have. No one really cares, they want a REAL drama and fight with The Elite. Folks may tune in, but when they see it's back to business and he's not addressing the real stuff, they will tune out again.
To be fair, it does feel a bit like karma for MJF because he stirred a shitstorm that overshadowed Wardlow's moment as well just a few months ago.
@@aeso3555 my dude two different reasons mjf had a fucking genuine reason to be pissed off with Kahn
@@slapbass8723 Even so, justified or not he still overshadowed Wardlow's, just like Punk is doing with him now.
Tony needs to man up and stop letting wrestlers walk all over him. Suspend everyone involved, including Punk for making it physical, for 30 days and come out on Dynamite and address the audience about it.
Punk defends himself verbally, then physically against 3 guys that busted into his locker room, but somehow he's at fault here?
I know right?!
Defends????
@Lee Brown Punk brought it up to the "journalists" who ran a bunch of lies about him. It's the only meaningful thing that's happened at one of those silly scrums. Doing post-event pressers like AEW is the UFC is some of the dumbest stuff that I've seen in wrestling.
Also, RE the punch, you're literally just regurgitating what Meltzer reported, which came from Omega and the Bucks. Nobody knows what happened, and the Elite going to Punk's dressing room is clearly a sign of aggression.
CM Punk is basically the biggest star AEW has from a business perspective this is a very tough decision for Tony Khan
It shouldn't be given that ratings have tanked for every segment Omega has participated in since he came back.
This is what happens when you get all of your wrestling info from Alvarez and Meltzer over at the Observer...
You missed the part where the Bucks and Omega confronted Punk in his locker room immediately after the press junket before he even had a chance to shower or change.
Punk was in the locker room alone with his friend’s wife who was watching his dog. There was also a quote that went something like, “open this fucking door or we’ll break it down.”
Based on that information, it’s pretty understandable why Punk attacked first; he’s alone with a woman and his dog while being verbally assaulted and threatened by three guys.
If the EVPs were mature adults and not middle-schoolers cosplaying as adults, they would’ve talked to Tony after the press scrum, or called Punk on the phone the next day to hash it out.
Nonetheless, Punk had every right to get his side of the story out, because people have been slandering him for months now for absolutely no reason.
He wasn’t alone with her, as of now Ace Steele and another person were confirmed to be there, heck how do you think Ace attacked hit the Bucks during that if he wasn’t there like you’re saying?
The part about breaking down the door is very much true and very much extra af by the Elite, but tbf when someone who’s supposed to be your coworker trashes you on live TV over a nothing line that should’ve been resolved weeks ago I’d be kinda pissed too
Heck, Punk said “If you don’t like what I said, come see me”. He may not have “started” it, but he sure as hell made it infinitely worse
It didn't occur to me that Punk was never asked about Colt at all, but after going back and watching another version angle the scrum from the very beginning (since the one AEW streamed was cut off a bit at the start), it almost seemed almost planned on Punk's part. The scrum started off with the first reporter (who was Nick from Wrestling Inc.) stating his name and where he was from and before he could even start his question, Punk cuts him off saying "I'll start, Nick. Show of hands, who here fancies themselves a journalist?" To which, I assume, Nick raises his hand and the discussion was on from there.
Punk: "You're a journalist, Nick?"
Nick: "I try my best."
Punk: "Ok... Real quick, you still do improv?"
That improv question is pretty strange to bring up given the time since it seemingly had nothing to do with anything at the scrum, with Punk almost certainly knowing the answer to this question already.
Nick: "No, not in a little bit."
Punk: "No? When you did improv, who'd you do improv with?"
It seemed like Punk knew the answer to this already as well, just as if he was trying to bring up Colt indirectly.
Nick: "I did it with, uh... Scott Colton."
Punk: "Hmmm, ok, so you fancy yourself a journalist, would you say you're friends with Scott Colton?"
Nick: "Uh no, I haven't talked to Scott in some time."
Punk: "So you're not friends with him?"
Nick: "Uh no, Scott and I don't see eye-to-eye."
Punk: "Oh wow. Well that makes two of us."
And it was on from there. Just an absolutely bizarre chain of events here that I'm hoping doesn't damage AEW too much. Extremely dicey situation for sure, but I still can't help but wonder why Punk just seemingly indirectly brought up the topic of Scott Colton out of nowhere, when it could have most certainly been brought up behind closed doors and not out to the public like it is now.
Wow, this is something I've never heard before (I also got the slightly cut off from the start version of the scrum). This puts things in a completely different perspective.
someone actually asked him about the whole colt situation, mic did not pick up but it was confirmed by others present
Punk really fought 3 guys just to stop the UFC comments about him not being able to fight
Legend
I don't reckon him punching one of the Young Bucks is going to have the desired effect. It's one of the Young Bucks. A gust of wind poses a challenge to them in a shoot.
His coach came out more like a badass ...punk got injured
There was chairs, biting, and hair pulling involved.
@@prj7894 his coach threw a chair
Punk by all accounts threw the first punch at 3 different guys
My 🐐
@@Neethan3247 all of which has nothing to do with punk
Respect the 🐐
In fairness to the wrestling journalists they all have sumarely denied any contact with the elite about the Colt Cabana rumors and rather that it was the general talent speaking on that as a rumor and that it had been the feeling for months.
As far as feeling bad for Tony Khan goes, abso-fucking-lutely not. From day one when they came to CM punk he chose to be for lack of a better term a mark and while you can certainly say that for other situations with AEW this has been the most egregious example. To sit there at an official press conference and nod along and be complicit with your world champion going off on an unsolicited tangent about a situation that had nothing to do with the event that just finished is an indictment on his leadership and character.
Whatever happens tomorrow, Khan and AEW deserves it because of how poorly they've handled the situation from day one
As a wrestling fan what hurts me the most is that this is probably the final blow to ever have Omega vs Cm punk, that and the fact that this was honestly pointless and no one gained anything.
What happened to the main channel?
Technically if you are to close to someone trying to intimate them you deserve whatever you get.
Bro what happened to your main channel? This is content on there
If these mess continue to get worse as time rolls on, they already looking like they’re headed to the WCW route and the AEW fanboys would love to hope that this is just a work but based on the reports that comes out for the past 12 hours, it certainly don’t look like it. Also it’s unfair to just single handedly blame either The Elite or Punk while it’s actually on both of them
Best video for breaking it down because I don't know what the heck is going on
The drama backstage is the best thing in wrestling right now 🤣
Why do you guys think Cody left? Why FTR have been unhappy? Putting these three clowns in as EVP was a joke and if anyone thinks WWE would even look at this locker room cancer is delusional. Those three make a mockery out of wrestling
Triple h was right about CM Punk ,Tony Khan needs to step and act like a boss cause he looks like a clown in this whole situation
No he's not, Punk is actually right in this scenario. I really do believe the wrestlers and the fans are way too thin skinned. Giving the Elite high positions in the company was a huge mistake, when Page went into business for himself it just went downhill from there. The Elite are just showing their true colors because they can't stand the fact there are bigger stars than them.
@@KJC04 That's a good way to see it.
I'm not quite sure to believe whether CM Punk is in the right or in the wrong for what he does in AEW, yet.
@@KJC04 Still, you don’t hit and punch your employers/employees, no matter what happened, that’s a recipe for disaster
They should fire CM Punk! AEW doesnt need him anyway
@@KJC04 u gotta understand cm punk doesn't care about you he doesn't care about the PPL he only cares about himself and he showed that in that media scrum
2:08 " Helloooo Ladiiies ! "- Val Venis voice 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Punk could’ve let it slide, it was a promo to get ppl talking about their upcoming match. The build was mid at best and that promo got me wanting to watch. MJF returns which should’ve been the highlight of the night but no, all about CM Punk. Overshadowed MJF’s return.
What about the Colt Cabana leaks, those damaged Punk's rep so I get why he's pissed.
@@lwamalo505 Nobody has ever confirmed/proven for absolute certainty that the EVPs were the culprits, which is why it was completely pointless for Punk to sidetrack himself with the Colt situation in the first place. He should've just stayed on task and address MJF's return instead.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 what about evps themselves threatened him that remember he said every reciept? Why didnt these just gone to the scrums and told them that punk is wrong? Maybe punk is right
1. If TK and AEW get anything out of this, they should really take this as an eye-opener to stop letting the Elite and other have such freedom/control and finally get a power structure that wwe has.
2. I know this is a long shot...but if Punk and the Elite could manage to work together, this could be the greatest fued/storyline in a decade.
TK does all of the booking, not the Elite. TK literally has all of the power when it comes to that. The EVPs duties lie in other areas of the company (marketing, merch, video games, etc)
Aew should of took away that a long time ago from the wreslters and for long term story telling this would be a perfect story depending on what happened
@@nightshadeii9248 TK seems like the type of dude that probably says yes to most wrestlers, especially the Elite. It showed in the press conference; TK may technically have the power, but he seems to treat his wrestlers more as friends than as employees. If he did, none of this would be happening because TK would've straightened things out.
I mean that would only go to show how god awful wrestling has been this past decade.
I understand why TK is nice to the workers and listens to the fans too much, but it doesn't always work. Once they realize that they can get you to do whatever they want, they'll abuse it. TK being nice is what got so many wrestlers to sign, making them think they were going to be better off in AEW. We are now seeing this isn't true and this is why do many issues are arising and people requesting to leave. Even the guy who helped build the company left, and I have to say he's smart for it. Right after he left it especially started going downhill. Good luck AEW, I don't ever think you will fully fade out but it might be close one day.
Immature? Hangman was the one going into business for himself and having his friends spread rumors about him, clearly hangman started it
Yup also don’t forget the “I don’t need any advice” interview Hangman did. Of course Punk got mad and when people get too mad they do stuff that they normal wouldn’t do.
@@nicholasmarquez3399 or their true colors start seeping through, triple h said he was like this lol now we get to see it
But this could have been avoided if hangman literally didn't say shit about cm punks personal life that has nothing to do with him as well
@@havuseenmymonkey6663 well maybe cm punk shouldn't be a pos in general and to his friend and maybe cmpunk should take his own advice and be a man and talk to him about it.
Punk said in promos that Vince McMahon was terrible at his job and that WWE wouldn’t be better after he died because it would be taken over by his “idiot daughter and doofus son-in-law.” He said John Cena, The Rock, and Hulk Hogan were successful because they kissed Vince McMahon’s ass, he said his sister thought Kevin Nash was dead, he said disrespectful things about Paul Bearer shortly after he died, he called Eddie Kingston a bum. But one vague allusion to Colt Cabana sent him over the edge? Give me a break.
Considering CM Punks UFC run, I doubt his punches did anything to the elite
Arcadian Vanguard has been on top of whats really going on in AEW since 2018. And they were dismissed because Meltzer told everyone not to listen. Even though its been indirectly confirmed from both sides that Arcadian Vanguard regularly talks with AEW officials and talent... If you want a more accurate idea of whats haplening. You need to go back and listen.... But the AEW stans have dug in their heels. So it has to be solely Punks fault....
Punk is right. They’re trash EVPs and confronted him as a group in his locker room. He should not be the fall guy. Cody was smart to leave AEW
3 on 2 is not a fair fight. Especially against CM Punk who just had a Main Event Match, had a healing Broken Foot, and was bleeding. Ace Steel was 100% JUSTIFIED to use a chair as you HAVE to fight dirty when you are outnumbered. Any Judge in the country would AGREE ---- should this go to Court, the Bucks / Omega will lose miserably. NUMBERS do count in a fight and Courts take that extremely seriously.
If nobody gets suspended, then that’s even gone cause more problems.
I honestly think this is a work from start to finish. Just a few months ago we thought that MJF was serious. Just a few months ago we thought Eddie didn’t like Punk or Claudio to the extent that they couldn’t work together. AEW is really good/not good at blurring the lines. AEW is great because they are the boy who called wolf company and we as wrestling fans love drama so much that we fall right into it. Watch by Full Gear or Blood and Guts this will all unfold.
Yeah tbh I also believe that it's a work, plus Ace Steel appearing out of nowhere on Wednesday and immediatly getting involved in the drama after the media scrum makes me think that they put him there so they could have someone to "punish" and make it look even more legit, beacause of course you can't punish the world champion or the new trios champions
It’s not a damn work!! I don’t know why you people won’t accept that there’s issues behind the scenes. Not everybody will like each other. MJF’s situation got turned into a work. idk why you think they would start storyline in dirt sheets.
@@jcdx87 mate, hate to break it to you, but most dirt sheets journalists and reporters, including meltzer alvarez etc. are pretty much all buddies with the elite, omega etc.
So yes it could very well be a work, an intense rivalry kickstarted and developed by blurred-lines-drama that originated from social media, backstage issues and so on. And if that was the case, it would be a new, sensational way to interpret the wrestling business and how to create a compelling storyline
@@fabioorlando8787 Jesus AEW fans are the dumbest & the most delusional. If all of this was for a storyline it wouldn’t make any fucking sense. Adam Page has not once mention anything about being called out by Punk. Kenny & Young Bucks feuding with Punk for a storyline doesn’t make sense either. You think Sammy & Eddie getting into a fight is a work too?? All of this drama doesn’t do any good for the company. Involving dirt sheets to push a storyline doesn’t go anything but the credibility (or lack of) they have. Everything is a not work.
The mjf situation wasn’t a work trust me my actual cousin went to see mjf and couldn’t because he No showed. Try telling her this is a work ??? Its ridiculous that people still don’t believe this is real.
CM Punk answers the question, “What if when Shawn Michaels came back in 2002, but he was still an asshole?”
#bingo
Nah its like if Austin went up against the Kliq backstage in late 90's.
This is nothing compared to the attitude era Triple H and Shawn Michaels put their poop in The Rock's food if it wasn't for Mark Henry he would have ate it and according to Rock's father he saw Dwayne standing while Shawn is on the ground in the locker room 🤣.
Not to mention JBL performing real punches to his competitors in a match intentionally beating them for real.
CM Punk was accused of something he had no part in and the moment he defends himself over it, it’s a major issue
Man here i am thinking bad bunny grew his hair and sitting down next to punk 🤦🏽♂️
Any press is good press this will bring more eyes to the company , as a cm punk fan since 2007 i think its obvious with who i am supporting in this , and even tho i love the elite they are in no way ready to run a company , tony khan needs to build a big team from people like mark henry , paul white , sting , jake Roberts ....etc , and you said what punk did overshadowed the MJF return but i think not a lot of people want to see mjf on dynamite and if a punk shoot promo can overshadow what u did that means u need to work more and prove that you are the centre of the company.
I didn't know you started a new channel bro
I don't know. I'm seeing more hatred towards The Young Bucks, and Kenny Omega. Remember, 3 men approached him in his locker room. The heck happened during that interaction? Also doesn't anyone else remember all of the bad rep we were hearing about the Young Bucks? Remember the issues that were coming out with Cody? What about Christopher Daniels? I don't know. I'm seeing a pattern here and it's those 3.
Rumors are that CM Punk is either going to be released or he's gotta apologize to everyone. What will he do?
HHH was right cm puck is selfish he doesn’t do it for the fans he dose it to benefit himself
@@Super.AE17 hi man
Hope he was he will put AEW in the dirt if he stays hope nicks eye heels up and hope he's not concussed that would be horrible punk is old he should just stop already
@@Super.AE17 exactly
What when?
You don't really know the whole story, as none of us do.
I would say that it wasn't JUST that promo. It was a number of issues, including EVPs going out and telling reporters that Colt Cabana (really?!?!) was almost fired BECAUSE of Punk.
It's Adam Page being disrespectful to a business that has generations before him.
None of that was ever proven & Bryan Alvarez already denied that anyone leaked any information to him about anything. 🤦 His article was based on his own OPINION from coincidences. He took notice that Colt Cabana was moved to ROH immediately after Punk came to AEW & he made his own opinion based on the fact that they had a lawsuit against each other (public record) & based on Punk's history/reputation of being disliked by the locker room everywhere he goes. The reporter who the EVPs ALLEGEDLY leaked information to is Bryan Alvarez & he clarified what he said in his articles in the Wrestling Observer. He also clarified that his article was based on his own OPINION. Do some research & stop automatically believing something, just cuz Punk CLAIMS it or falsely accuses someone of leaking information. ANYONE can make accusations like he has & point fingers, but it becomes invalid without any evidence to confirm those accusations. Especially when the reporter he's blaming for it already denied that anyone in the company is responsible for his articles & those were written based on his opinions. If Bryan Alvarez is used as a witness/character witness in the pending lawsuit between Punk & The Elite, Punk is gonna lose EVERYTHING. The Elite have a strong case for Slander, defamation of character, & assault. Both sides will be taken off TV until the pending lawsuit is resolved & I doubt they'll ever bring back Punk after this. CM Punk might be banned from wrestling after this is all done & he already burned bridges in every company he's been in so far. AEW was his last shot in the industry & he's a liability. 🤷
CM punk has problems literally EVERYWHERE he goes. Every organization roh, wwe, UFC, aew, etc
What did Kenny do? Why should he get suspended?
I lost interest after Cody left but with the Punk drama it makes it more exciting to tune in to see what happens next 😄
Nah. The minute punk sighed with are people were already worrying on how Colt cabana would be dealt with
Ace Steel is the type of friend we would all be blessed to have.
He sounds like a man child lol
need a homie who gonna bite mf’s for me fr
In 2019 when AEW was created my sister made a joke saying that in 5 years were gonna be seeing videos called the rise and fall of aew now it looks like it could be more possible
I agree and disagree with CM Punk at the same time, but i also agree the most, he's finally going to make AEW stop being All Friends Wrestling, not everyone needs to be friends, and The Elite is all about their own friend circle, and Punk is heading against them head on, also you're forgetting how close Dave Meltzer is to the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega, so what he's saying about them spreading shit about him does make sense.
I don't know overall, but i'm with Punk on this, the Elite needs to get removed from the EVP position if it is all true. Like Cornette says, they're all man children playing wrestler with other man children, Tony Khan needs to learn that he has to take full control, even if people paint him as the villain like Vince Mcmahon was for decades, he should stop listening to them and do things himself for real like he says he does.
This ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
The Elite are only EVPs in name they been got stripped of there EVP powers
Even though cm punk has no proof and he's a pos..so it's not crazy to think he would do that to cabana..and maybe cm punk should take his own advice and talk to people
Still he shouldn’t have aired his dirty laundry in public, not needed at all.
@@tomv2063 Yeah that's true, but at the same time it was sort of necessary, Punk was painted to be the villain on shit that wasn't true also, like the Colt Cabana stuff, i feel his reaction was appropriate, anyone would have a meltdown under that situation.
It's just sad that people think The Elite is the good and Punk the bad lol both sides did shit wrong but i think the Elite is worse, there were problems before Punk, people blamed it on Cody, he left, the problems remained, who else is the problem?? The so called EVPs.
Everybody need to be suspended and tony need to grow a pair and be a leader and stop being friend with everybody 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
It's a work 🤣.
MJF putting the clip about "being a snake".
He's turning heel 🤣.
Okay I REALLY hope it's not true, but if it is, Tony Khan needs to learn how to be a BOSS !
Is Punk now the Will Smith of pro wrestling?
They tried to bury Punk in the dirt sheets and hide their hands only a man can see that Punk was right in calling them out
tony really is struggling to get his employees to listen to him i think tony really needs to punish it's either sa suspension or a straight up release to show his employees that if something bad for business he will actually take action no matter who u are
This clip shows that Tony regrets his decisions and I hope, they fire Punk immediatly
Imagine suing someone over a chair to the face when your work is literally being hit in the face with a chair hundreds of times over your career. I know there’s a difference, it’s just funny to think about lol
Just as fast as he ce back.....he's gone!!! Ahahaha
I expected this to be on the main channel
Nah that’s Bullshit. EVPs *SHOULD NEVER PROVOKE A FIGHT*
Punk could sue the entire fucking company for those 3 ambushing him in his *PRIVATE LOCKER ROOM*
Get rid of this EVP garbage. Those dudes have zero idea what they’re doing anyway.
I always knew that a year ago I said there will be chaos when cm punk came to aew. Luckily he didn’t go to wwe
He needs to put Jim Ross in charge of talent relations. If JR wants to do that job in 2022 - which I doubt.
Feels like 90s all over again
Anyone who doesn’t keep up with the dirt sheets had no clue what Hangman was alluding too, and MJF made comments way earlier that were much harsher. No one cared that much about Colt Cabana to worry about why he left TV. I was there live for his opening comments in Charleston and no one had a single clue why he called out Page. Regardless of how they tried to spin it, it didn’t make any sense.
CM Punk is exhausted from the match when he went to the locker room the EVPs have no business entering a private locker room and when All out on Cm punk 3 vs 1 that is totally unfair instead the EVPs shud have a chat with Tony Khan but the EVP show they're very professional by entering some1's locker room
This is all because there are no scripted promos in AEW. Sammy and Eddie Kingston ran into issues with promos too.
Also don't think it's fair for mjf he has waited all this time after punk got injured and now this happens with punk as soon as mjf comes back. Smh poor mjf
So all the people that reported the Cabana thing all said they heard none of this from the evps
and now punk is fired
Honestly if Tony fires Punk, AEW would F***EN die faster than WWEs ECW in 2006!