"...commercial, civilian, recrational submachine guns." With that one simple phrase, Ian reminded us all of the promise of a better future that we didn't get.
The Stemple ISN'T shoddy crap, they are an INCREDIBLE use/design set using reasonably common parts to produce something reliable and relatively cheap/accessible. (For registered machineguns) They aren't particularly pretty/shiny but they are amazing at what they do/as a means of getting around stupid law. 45acp is a far better calibre for an SMG than 9mm for a start. (It's subsonic naturally vs 9mm). The tubes can be converted into everything from a Sten clone to a Sterling to a Swedisk K to a folding smg that looks like a radio (as the one used in robocop). The design is incredibly elegant especially when you consider just HOW many options exist with those tubes.
I'm stuck on the side of a highway waiting on roadside assistance to tow my "new" car(purchased yesterday) back to where I purchased it. I was understandably unhappy. For nearly 30 minutes of what may be a 2 hour wait, I watched this very interesting and well done video. I'm not as angry as I was 30 minutes ago, compared to Mr Stipple's obstacles mine is not so bad. Thank you Ian @forgottenweapons and Mr Stipple.
@@Hopeofmen A check the transmission message popped up before the car shut off. Luckily I have a 30 day warranty and I got the car yesterday. Sadly, I need a car and purchasing a used one immediately after the flooding we recently had in New Jersey is risky.
I spoke to Ian a while ago in France about my BRP gun and encouraged him to contact the owner Brian. He didn't seem to too interested. This is my favorite gun and I shoot it 3 or 4 times a month. When asked I tell people its the 21st century Suomi. So happy he has made this video.
@@rodgerjohnson3375 Yeah i looked into them. Just sold my house said imma buy 1 fun gun. Picked a semi auto .338 Lapua. I looked into some of the "cheap" fill auto SMGs. All over 10k sadly.
I remember when these were for sale in Shotgun News. They had a more "tactical" model with a collapsible stock, pic rail on the receiver, short barrel and a MG34 grip assembly that gave tou full and semi auto. Aah the golden age of parts kits they even had a Thompson built around one of these tubes.
I don’t think anyone really knows all they’ve done over the years it never gets reversed. Everyone was so happy that guy dropped out from the director nominee of the ATF but they don’t realize the ATF has been doing a “good job” without leadership. How many people really watching this actually remembers buying an AK parts kit barrel included for 75 bucks!!
I like how instead of showing disassembly as usual, Ian disassembles one gun to its receiver and then shows an assembly of another gun starting from the receiver
@@slashdotism i just searched new stemple 76 and found one with an m16 carrying handle with a red dot on top of that, an m4 stock and a damn laser sight
@@oiartsun Or why it's inadvisable to do this kind of business/loan money to your friends. That has simply messed up lots of relationships. Especially if you just trust each other on their word because you're friends. Already with a couple of grand in play by many people their memory suddenly becomes fuzzy.
Classic example of why you need to "Get it in writing." Also, why you want a lawyer to write the contract, and a second, not interested, lawyer to *check* the contract. Good contracts save friendships.
@@pointdironie5832 my response is, a properly written and enforceable contract would have prevented things from going so far as to reveal just how mendacious he could be. Thus, he would never have known how deep his friend could go; character flaws remaining hidden. The point being: as things were, it was a REALLY expensive journey to the bottom, which could have been entirely prevented.
This is a great video. I worked directly with Brian Polling when I bought my BRP STG. I was able to pick the new receiver directly out of the safe from a tray of unfired receivers in his factory. Great guy and great company!!
Dude.. this makes me want a Stemple as a first transferable. Bubba in his garage overcomes all odds, fighting many battles, and perseveres- creating something fun, beautiful, and valuable.
You know the coolest part everybody seems to be missing is how they worked around the government hoops to be able to even make that thing that truly is amazing and what inspiring story to listen to thank you pat on the back thank you had on the back thank you
I followed the STG-76 for about 10 years, but the price kept gradually keeping up faster than my "discretionary gun budget" increased, so, like Tantalus, it was always *just* out of reach. 😎
I found this to be one of my favorite FW vids in some time. Deep dive into the history, lots of cool engineering retrospective… yeah, just top-notch work putting this together. I can’t wait to see more of what Mr. Poling thought up for these things.
When the video started I thought "what an ugly piece of junk", after the video, seeing all the ingenious yet simple legal work arounds I think this thing is gorgeous haha!
It was exceptional that you showed us the earlier design and how the later design decisions were incorporated along with the history of how this firearm came to be and how it evolved. The most interesting part was when the ATF agreed to the mods for the sake of the manufacturer and its customers. That is a long bygone era in which the AFT actually served the citizens.
Post-WWII there were a lot of sports cars cobbled together from combinations of parts from various other vehicles. These were known as "bitzas"; bits o' this and bits o' that". This gun is clearly a bitza.
What an interesting gun, from its early developement through the legal swamp to what it has become today.. I need to look into this more. Went to the BRP wedsite and WOW they seem to have their act together with this gun. Lots of options for weapons built from the original Stemple tubes and for New MGs the prices are not bad at all.
Prices for legit new machine guns are a lot lower because of the paperwork and smaller potential customer base vs pre86 examples. Sounds like they care about what they do, which is always nice to see in any market.
I am quite impressed with how they managed to convert that receiver into a completely different gun. At the beginning of the video I was thinking to myself "Is Ian going to cover two different guns in one video?". I took a little peak at the manufacturer's website and the stuff that they're selling today is pretty impressive looking. Hopefully they'll give you some range time with some of the modern models. I'm very curious to know what one of these is like to shoot. Did they actually succeed on making an excellent range gun? I guess I'll have to wait for your later videos.
Hobby machinist, doing what he likes in his free time and even developing it into a small income. Fighting and winning two legal battles. Loosing a friend, but making a new one and be ultimately successful with his gun design. What a story!
I remember looking at a new 76/45 in the early 2000s and saying "that thing isnt worth 1200 bucks"! Now I wish I had bought several. Same goes for M11s. Wish I had known then what I know now.
I still have 5 or more kit guns that need final assembly. All of them were purchased in the late 80s & early 90s. I can't believe the value of these kits today. What was only several hundred back then is now worth more than $3,500 in today's market, untouched. Unfortunately quite a few were accidentally thrown away during an unsupervised garage fire clean out. I lost a small fortune in that accident.
I have to commend the second guy who came in hear and basically built a body kit around the tube out of spare parts that made it both economical and fun to shoot. Just a real smart guy.
I’m glad that you mentioned the fun of shooting machine guns. The MAC pistols and carbines were called “despicable” by Kokalis. But they are great fun to shoot! These guns were made to be fun to shoot, not to storm the enemy. That’s one reason Ian is a much better gun authority! He is both more knowledgeable, and recognizes that some people just want to shoot for fun!😁
so much had to line up for this to work out. awesome. stemple's original design choices allowed the second iteration to be made possible by like a hundred years of manufacturing standardization and design simplification for mass production. kind of incredible.
I have been looking at the BRP Stemple guns for years and always not buying one. These videos from Ian are what finally pushed me over the top. I got on the most recent waiting list with BRP. Brian called yesterday and said he had guns ready. My check went in the mail today for a Stemple-Suomi and all the parts necessary to convert it to the U45 configuration. Thanks for the great videos!
How on earth does Ian dig up all of this information about design decisions and developments about an incredibly obscure firearm? His enthusiasm about this conversion is infectious. Possibly my favorite episode!
I'm a mechanical engineer, motorcycle aftermarket but did spend a few years of my early career in aerospace and reading the title of this video and having watched it, the production/manufacturing process for this sounds like *A PARTY*. Between the legal maneuvering and the parts-bin assembly process, to still end up with a final product that's still greater than the sum of its parts sounds like my idea of a fun time.
"Modern-era commercial civilian recreational sub-machineguns". And thus with this single utterance did Gun Jesus bring his disciples unto the transcendent state known as "Peak 'Murica". And some were confused, and they knew not what to make of this. But many indeed rejoiced. Amen.
“For just a fleeting moment I fell into a state of ‘Murica, where every gun store was selling complete machineguns to well-intentioned, law-abiding citizens so they too can reach ‘Murica peacefully on their own property downrange. Suddenly, I snapped back to reality, looked at my bastardized pps-43, and went back to work”
Yet there was at least one disciple thinking: *"NEED MORE DAKKA!"* Considering current state of US, isn't it close to the miracle to find ammo for anything, let alone (sub)machine gun?
My father bought 3 stemple recivers from john stemple in 1985 in Marietta ohio at a gun show. He still has 2 all these years later, and will eventuall be mine.
Great video. BRP guns are bulletproof. I thoroughly enjoy firing mine, it never lets me down. It is built in a fashion that you are not concerned with damaging the registered receiver. The receiver is very protected. It is configurable, from an ultra modern SMG to the legacy SMGs like the Soumi and Thompson, just buy the different kits. Brian, met him at Knob Creek a few years back, at BMP is a pleasure to do business with and will patiently answer all of your questions.
I understand that Elbonia issues these as their AFV crew PDW. They were forced to buy their SMGs on the US civilian market and import them one at a time in the early 2000s because the only spare budget the government had was some prepaid Mastercards they were given in exchange for their mineral rights. Fittingly, their only AFV is a Bob Semple tank.
Everything is nowadays. Look at a new production anything and it's a hodge podge of old designs and features reconfigured and reskinned to make you spend money on what you think is something new.
As 1986 was coming along did anyone try to cash in and build a bunch of barely working receivers to register them, hoping to figure a way to build a gun out of them later?
The law is a little weird with some uppers. The issue here is that open bolt designs don’t need a trigger. You can take the upper and load a mag (or belt) and just rack the bolt and let it go. You now have a full auto that will go untill you run out of ammo. That’s why parts kits like the sten and Pps43 the serialized part is actually the tube receiver and not the chunk of metal with the trigger in it.
I love the 2x4 grip on the original Stemple!! That's craftsmanship!! Super interesting story of the development and evolution of this line of tools. Looking forward to additional videos.
@@cameronsenna8979 but saying "recreational submachine gun" kind of implies that you may also have a "business submachine gun" which is, in and of itself, pretty cool..... Kind of the same way that "holy infant so tender and mild" implies that, somewhere out there, exists a chewy, spicy Jesus. I think that's something that should be uplifting to all of us.
I really enjoyed this video. The BRP STG U45/U9SF is a great package. They have gone from 12 to 15k but that is still a very budget friendly auto for folks to get into the segment. Your video(s) are gong to drive many more folks to the BRP Corp website and may increase the price, and there are a limited number of units available! I look forward to your next videos.
The "Suomi, Tikkakoski" (Model, maker of the original M31) marking on the side of the sights is actually a bit funny. Mainly because going on the markings you might have a STG 76/45 made by Tikkakoski in Ohio, Suomi. That'll confuse some one who'll inherit one of those in 2031.
Starting with an already heavy gauge receiver tube and adding effectively two more layers of additional steel must make it incredibly sturdy. I'd imagine small flaws in the diameters and circularity may lead to very unique wear patterns and minor changes in overall behavior among the different units. Definitely makes each one even more unique. I love those old wood CETME surplus stocks and handguards. I never knew they were used for something like this Thank you for sharing this one Ian!
I really need to stop watching these commercial machine gun videos. Being reminded of the 1986 MG registration prohibition really tugs my heartstrings each time.
I can imagine that the sales of these things are gonna skyrocket now that there's a video on them from a popular gun channel. And I can also imagine that they're relatively cheap compared to other pre-'86 full-autos.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz I'd definitely prefer 1 of these stemple guns tho, I betcha they're a *SH!TTON* more controllable than a MAC-10 or similar guns.
In Sweden, we still had civilian recreational submachinegun competitions - primarily using, of course, the m/45B - up until quite recently. It might even still be going, but numbers dwindled as the guns dropped out of service.
That is a great range concept. It allows someone who isn't used to recoil management and larger cartridges feel like they are shooting a LMG. The engineering is cool story too. Thanks for the video Ian!
As Ian pulls the mag release and says it’s another cap head screw is say “Oh WTF” Ian laughs and says “I think you’re starting to get the idea here. It’s like he knew his audience would have that reaction to that garbage.
Meh, not garbage: it's literally some dude in his shed, when some dude in his shed could do that sort of thing. For what's available to the manufacturer, it's quite reasonable and effective. Compare this to, say, the average zip gun.
For all the apparent issues with a Semple 76/45, I'd sooner carry it than a STEN Mk II (or a Mk III for that matter). Crude and reliable don't always sit in the same boat...
That Orginal76 Has Some REAL Good Ideas For The Home Builder... For Something Orginal, In Semi like The SGN9-SemiAuto Build I'm Collecting Parts Now. Figuring On An AR Dropp In Trigger For FCG.. I Had Looked At Semi Build Of PPs43.. BUT Bolts To Light.. K8nda Dangerous
We tend to compartmentalize things in the law. Barrel, stock...whatever, you can sell those without even a background check, mail order. Whatever houses the action, though, that's _the firearm_ in our legal definitions.
It happened many times leading up to the 1986 ban. Several manufacturers saw what was coming and stocked up on registered receivers in the form of serial numbered tubes(Stemple, STen and Sterling)and flat sideplates(Maxim, Browning, FN MAG). There are still new guns being manufactured on these stockpiles 35yrs later.
Its like an ugly duckling evolving into something of beauty. A very nice overview Ian I really liked how you showed the matching of parts and how they evolved.
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I legit thought this was going to be another elbonian hybrid. Glad that there are still interesting obscure smg designs to find
Hah yeah. Bob Semple tank style. I saw Semple not Stemple to begin with. heh.
*sad elbonian noises*
Yea, i saw it and the first think that came in my mind was "who combine an stg 44 receaver, a Thompson's drum and a ppsh 44 barrel"
Tell me how this isn’t the very essence of Elbonian kook? It’s obviously one of their training weapons.
I hear Elbonia wants the 76/45 but in .303 British
"...commercial, civilian, recrational submachine guns."
With that one simple phrase, Ian reminded us all of the promise of a better future that we didn't get.
"this one has gone quite long enough already" No, no - that was absolutely fascinating.
I could have watched another 20 minutes for sure
I could watch Ian do 10 more videos on the STG and the “Rest of the Story”!
There's nothing like hearing Ian lovingly, carefully explain, "This is a piece of shoddy crap, here's how they got here."
Lmao
The Stemple ISN'T shoddy crap, they are an INCREDIBLE use/design set using reasonably common parts to produce something reliable and relatively cheap/accessible. (For registered machineguns)
They aren't particularly pretty/shiny but they are amazing at what they do/as a means of getting around stupid law.
45acp is a far better calibre for an SMG than 9mm for a start. (It's subsonic naturally vs 9mm).
The tubes can be converted into everything from a Sten clone to a Sterling to a Swedisk K to a folding smg that looks like a radio (as the one used in robocop). The design is incredibly elegant especially when you consider just HOW many options exist with those tubes.
@@jediknight1294 far from crap
@@jediknight1294 its crap
@@jediknight1294 Something can be designed to be cheap crap very elegantly.
I'm stuck on the side of a highway waiting on roadside assistance to tow my "new" car(purchased yesterday) back to where I purchased it. I was understandably unhappy. For nearly 30 minutes of what may be a 2 hour wait, I watched this very interesting and well done video. I'm not as angry as I was 30 minutes ago, compared to Mr Stipple's obstacles mine is not so bad. Thank you Ian @forgottenweapons and Mr Stipple.
Hopefully it's not the transmission
*Stemple
@@Hopeofmen A check the transmission message popped up before the car shut off. Luckily I have a 30 day warranty and I got the car yesterday. Sadly, I need a car and purchasing a used one immediately after the flooding we recently had in New Jersey is risky.
@@mrtlsimon Is your broken car also used, or brand new? and if it's brand new, how do you only have 30 day waranty
@@teaser6089 it's used but new to me.
I spoke to Ian a while ago in France about my BRP gun and encouraged him to contact the owner Brian. He didn't seem to too interested. This is my favorite gun and I shoot it 3 or 4 times a month. When asked I tell people its the 21st century Suomi. So happy he has made this video.
I have a TNW Suomi it makes me sad its semi auto with a terrible trigger. So sad because of our dumb rules all the real Suomi's got chopped up.
@@shifty198885 $14k and you must live in a free state. Take out a loan. You wont be sorry. Their is a nice trigger on the BRP gun.
@@rodgerjohnson3375 Yeah i looked into them. Just sold my house said imma buy 1 fun gun. Picked a semi auto .338 Lapua. I looked into some of the "cheap" fill auto SMGs. All over 10k sadly.
@@Blackhawk5656 lol I love my dog to much to do that lol
BRP guns helped me put my Ishapore 2A bolt back together, and I saw a lot on those stemples and didn't know what to think. Very cool though!
I remember when these were for sale in Shotgun News. They had a more "tactical" model with a collapsible stock, pic rail on the receiver, short barrel and a MG34 grip assembly that gave tou full and semi auto. Aah the golden age of parts kits they even had a Thompson built around one of these tubes.
I have videos on those configurations coming...
@@ForgottenWeapons can't wait for that upcoming video :D
I once saw a .177 caliber M1A1 full auto on Amazon
They still do.
@@legomangamesnetwork1151 That would be an air gun.
It is an excellent example of how inconsistent the ATF is when this and Mac10 5.56 conversions are legal but the MG34 upper for an M16 isn't
An example of salami cutter removal of rights over time.
@@TorquilBletchleySmythe because freedom is when machine gun
It is indeed
@@BTW4LK You speak the truth
I don’t think anyone really knows all they’ve done over the years it never gets reversed. Everyone was so happy that guy dropped out from the director nominee of the ATF but they don’t realize the ATF has been doing a “good job” without leadership. How many people really watching this actually remembers buying an AK parts kit barrel included for 75 bucks!!
I like how instead of showing disassembly as usual, Ian disassembles one gun to its receiver and then shows an assembly of another gun starting from the receiver
It looks like a suomi kp/31 with a g3 stock and some simple smg lower. Looks like a cool combo firearm
That's probably pretty much what it is.
That's exactly what I thought!
The new ones look pretty modern and are really modular. Still heavy as shit though.
@@slashdotism i just searched new stemple 76 and found one with an m16 carrying handle with a red dot on top of that, an m4 stock and a damn laser sight
@Roope the easiest way to modernize a gun is slap a bunch of rails and AR parts to it. They're abundant and easily adaptable
Stemple: Hey man can I have my receivers back??
His friend: naw man screw you.
Stemple looking at his lawyer: Ah sh#@ here we go again.....
Perfect example of "with friends like those, who needs enemies?"
@@oiartsun Or why it's inadvisable to do this kind of business/loan money to your friends. That has simply messed up lots of relationships. Especially if you just trust each other on their word because you're friends. Already with a couple of grand in play by many people their memory suddenly becomes fuzzy.
Classic example of why you need to "Get it in writing." Also, why you want a lawyer to write the contract, and a second, not interested, lawyer to *check* the contract.
Good contracts save friendships.
At least this proves that the 'friend' was a piece of crapp with no honor and not really his friend.
@@pointdironie5832 my response is, a properly written and enforceable contract would have prevented things from going so far as to reveal just how mendacious he could be. Thus, he would never have known how deep his friend could go; character flaws remaining hidden.
The point being: as things were, it was a REALLY expensive journey to the bottom, which could have been entirely prevented.
This looks like something you'd see in a fictional setting, like a near-future (ish) dieselpunk setting.
That was the first thing popping up in my mind when I saw the thumbnail!
Defending a giant diesel engine
Fallout: Europa
Way too good for a country like Elbonia to purchase/produce/quasi-legally acquire.
It looks like it belongs in a Fallout game
This is a great video. I worked directly with Brian Polling when I bought my BRP STG. I was able to pick the new receiver directly out of the safe from a tray of unfired receivers in his factory. Great guy and great company!!
Same with me. Tour of the facility, unhurried Q & A, and out to the Sheriffs range for all the shooting I wanted.
Dude.. this makes me want a Stemple as a first transferable. Bubba in his garage overcomes all odds, fighting many battles, and perseveres- creating something fun, beautiful, and valuable.
CUST: "how simple is your gun?"
Stemple: "It makes a sten look like a luger"
“Who doesn’t like machine guns?”
Creepy uncle chipman and joe
The feds
As it seems...Ronald Reagan.
The government
Losers who don't like freedom don't love machine guns.
You know the coolest part everybody seems to be missing is how they worked around the government hoops to be able to even make that thing that truly is amazing and what inspiring story to listen to thank you pat on the back thank you had on the back thank you
I followed the STG-76 for about 10 years, but the price kept gradually keeping up faster than my "discretionary gun budget" increased, so, like Tantalus, it was always *just* out of reach. 😎
I just checked the price for a new one. I cried.
I found this to be one of my favorite FW vids in some time. Deep dive into the history, lots of cool engineering retrospective… yeah, just top-notch work putting this together. I can’t wait to see more of what Mr. Poling thought up for these things.
Drinking game: take a shot every time Ian says "Suomi"
Now this will make the ATF interested not only because of the F but also Because of the A.
@@flexplayz6551 cmon we all know the ATF only cares about the one that kills the least of the three
@@ltcysaber87 no the ATF only cares about how many dogs that you have
@@colchronic my bad,of course you are correct
Take 4 shots
Destroy your liver
David Chipman watching this through a window standing outside in the rain
Fück David Waco Chipman!
@@FishyBoi1337 I'm glad I brought some joy to you👍thank you for the compliment
When the video started I thought "what an ugly piece of junk", after the video, seeing all the ingenious yet simple legal work arounds I think this thing is gorgeous haha!
The engineer team who did this seemed to verge on the elegant when it comes to solutions
Ikr
'It's hard to fight the federal government in court' the house always wins
All we need is to get the platinum chip into the hands of the right player
@@Arbiter099 we do a.. heist.
Yes, a heist.
Just claim it is your medicinal machine guns
It was exceptional that you showed us the earlier design and how the later design decisions were incorporated along with the history of how this firearm came to be and how it evolved. The most interesting part was when the ATF agreed to the mods for the sake of the manufacturer and its customers. That is a long bygone era in which the AFT actually served the citizens.
Post-WWII there were a lot of sports cars cobbled together from combinations of parts from various other vehicles. These were known as "bitzas"; bits o' this and bits o' that". This gun is clearly a bitza.
What an interesting gun, from its early developement through the legal swamp to what it has become today.. I need to look into this more. Went to the BRP wedsite and WOW they seem to have their act together with this gun. Lots of options for weapons built from the original Stemple tubes and for New MGs the prices are not bad at all.
Prices for legit new machine guns are a lot lower because of the paperwork and smaller potential customer base vs pre86 examples. Sounds like they care about what they do, which is always nice to see in any market.
@@randomidiot8142 not to mention the whole "do everything we can to make this last forever" thinking.
@@randomidiot8142 These are pre-86
I am quite impressed with how they managed to convert that receiver into a completely different gun. At the beginning of the video I was thinking to myself "Is Ian going to cover two different guns in one video?".
I took a little peak at the manufacturer's website and the stuff that they're selling today is pretty impressive looking. Hopefully they'll give you some range time with some of the modern models. I'm very curious to know what one of these is like to shoot. Did they actually succeed on making an excellent range gun? I guess I'll have to wait for your later videos.
Excellent video. I really liked how you went through and explained the logic behind all of the decisions.
Brian is a great guy, Had plenty of dealing with him. A+ class.
Hobby machinist, doing what he likes in his free time and even developing it into a small income. Fighting and winning two legal battles. Loosing a friend, but making a new one and be ultimately successful with his gun design.
What a story!
This explains why the Stemple 76/45 was adopted by the Elbonian Army.
I remember looking at a new 76/45 in the early 2000s and saying "that thing isnt worth 1200 bucks"! Now I wish I had bought several. Same goes for M11s. Wish I had known then what I know now.
I still have 5 or more kit guns that need final assembly. All of them were purchased in the late 80s & early 90s. I can't believe the value of these kits today. What was only several hundred back then is now worth more than $3,500 in today's market, untouched. Unfortunately quite a few were accidentally thrown away during an unsupervised garage fire clean out. I lost a small fortune in that accident.
One of your most enjoyable videos. I really like ones that explain the development or rationale for the “why” of a particular weapon.
I have to commend the second guy who came in hear and basically built a body kit around the tube out of spare parts that made it both economical and fun to shoot. Just a real smart guy.
I’m glad that you mentioned the fun of shooting machine guns. The MAC pistols and carbines were called “despicable” by Kokalis. But they are great fun to shoot! These guns were made to be fun to shoot, not to storm the enemy. That’s one reason Ian is a much better gun authority! He is both more knowledgeable, and recognizes that some people just want to shoot for fun!😁
so much had to line up for this to work out. awesome. stemple's original design choices allowed the second iteration to be made possible by like a hundred years of manufacturing standardization and design simplification for mass production. kind of incredible.
The final time I watch your videos will be the day I die. Ian, your work is fantastic!
The Engineers’ Temple of Stemple.
@@OneHunnitNoCapStannitOnBidnisz your grammar is so fucked, I'm convinced it's a joke. I won't believe otherwise.
Featuring the Bob Semple
8 left in stock on their site, let’s see how long that lasts now that this is out
I have been looking at the BRP Stemple guns for years and always not buying one. These videos from Ian are what finally pushed me over the top. I got on the most recent waiting list with BRP. Brian called yesterday and said he had guns ready. My check went in the mail today for a Stemple-Suomi and all the parts necessary to convert it to the U45 configuration. Thanks for the great videos!
When I saw this was almost 30min, I thought I’d watch over the weekend… but here I am half an hour later. Great video!
How on earth does Ian dig up all of this information about design decisions and developments about an incredibly obscure firearm? His enthusiasm about this conversion is infectious. Possibly my favorite episode!
This is one of the most interesting videos on fw ever. Thanks ian!
My dad had a Stemple in 45acp, he used it in sub-gun competitions with great success. It was a really nice shooting sub gun. I wish he kept it!
Out of all this engineering, I am most impressed by the two takedown pins being connected with 1 safety wire.
I'm a mechanical engineer, motorcycle aftermarket but did spend a few years of my early career in aerospace and reading the title of this video and having watched it, the production/manufacturing process for this sounds like *A PARTY*. Between the legal maneuvering and the parts-bin assembly process, to still end up with a final product that's still greater than the sum of its parts sounds like my idea of a fun time.
"Modern-era commercial civilian recreational sub-machineguns".
And thus with this single utterance did Gun Jesus bring his disciples unto the transcendent state known as "Peak 'Murica".
And some were confused, and they knew not what to make of this.
But many indeed rejoiced.
Amen.
“For just a fleeting moment I fell into a state of ‘Murica, where every gun store was selling complete machineguns to well-intentioned, law-abiding citizens so they too can reach ‘Murica peacefully on their own property downrange. Suddenly, I snapped back to reality, looked at my bastardized pps-43, and went back to work”
Amen
The endless court battles were pretty 'Murican as well :D
Fucking right
Yet there was at least one disciple thinking: *"NEED MORE DAKKA!"*
Considering current state of US, isn't it close to the miracle to find ammo for anything, let alone (sub)machine gun?
My father bought 3 stemple recivers from john stemple in 1985 in Marietta ohio at a gun show. He still has 2 all these years later, and will eventuall be mine.
Last time I was this early, Elbonia hadn't even put out solicitations for a submachine gun.
Awesome video! It's crazy how the "machinegun" laws work in the US...
Remember seeing these in what was shotgun news must’ve been early 2000’s thinking they were around 5k at time.
Yeah, and it was maddeningly frustrating to watch the price grow slightly faster than my "fun gun" budget did.
@@geodkyt I do know what you mean
Great video. BRP guns are bulletproof.
I thoroughly enjoy firing mine, it never lets me down. It is built in a fashion that you are not concerned with damaging the registered receiver. The receiver is very protected. It is configurable, from an ultra modern SMG to the legacy SMGs like the Soumi and Thompson, just buy the different kits. Brian, met him at Knob Creek a few years back, at BMP is a pleasure to do business with and will patiently answer all of your questions.
So, you could say that the *context* of firearm design is important for understanding firearm history ;)
I understood that reference
Brian is right up the road here in GA I ended up grabbing up most of his surplus M31 bolts. He's a great guy.
My brain skipped the "t" and I immediately wondered if this would be a "forgotten tanks" episode.
A Sten gun touched by the divine hands of Mr Bob Semple.
Welcome to the channel!
A T-76/45?
Interesting...
WW2 era light tank with the 45mm (Soviet equivalent to the 5cm PaK38)?
Technically still a weapon
Great video. I met Brian Poling in GA and we went out shooting. I bought a U9/45 the next month. Great guy and great product.
I like the simplicity of the design~ and Suomi.
Thank you very much for making this. This is a part of gun history I don't know a lot about.
I understand that Elbonia issues these as their AFV crew PDW. They were forced to buy their SMGs on the US civilian market and import them one at a time in the early 2000s because the only spare budget the government had was some prepaid Mastercards they were given in exchange for their mineral rights.
Fittingly, their only AFV is a Bob Semple tank.
Love the inversion of the typical deconstruction bit, but instead he assembles it explaining the ideas involved in it's creation.
This gun is a Frankenstein of smgs lmao.
@@traphimawari7760 i takes all of the memes about the lmg pooking ksp to a diffrent level
You gotta see the Vietnamese 7.62x25 ppsh looking SMGs
The US has Franken-laws, so you get Franken-guns.
You have no idea. This is a slick extraordinarily reliable gun and is very well engineered.
Everything is nowadays. Look at a new production anything and it's a hodge podge of old designs and features reconfigured and reskinned to make you spend money on what you think is something new.
Definitely looking forward to the follow-up videos. Extremely interesting firearm in my opinion
As 1986 was coming along did anyone try to cash in and build a bunch of barely working receivers to register them, hoping to figure a way to build a gun out of them later?
Yes, massive numbers of Sten tubes, MAC flats, DIAS, and others were built and registered right before the ban took effect.
Some manufacturers were registering receivers that were not manufactured. ATF went around checking and some of these people got in big trouble.
And Stemples just went up by 200%
This is how the Fallout series jury rigging perk can be explained in real life. I love it!
The basic auto pipe pistol and the tricked out one.
I hope someone makes a mod out of this gun
The law is a little weird with some uppers. The issue here is that open bolt designs don’t need a trigger. You can take the upper and load a mag (or belt) and just rack the bolt and let it go. You now have a full auto that will go untill you run out of ammo. That’s why parts kits like the sten and Pps43 the serialized part is actually the tube receiver and not the chunk of metal with the trigger in it.
Nice lessons in history and engineering. Thanks Ian☮️
Honestly this is such a cool story and gun. Made out of parts of some of my favorite guns.
OMG I think I'm in love! Seriously tho, that thing looks fun as hell to shoot. Now where did I leave that giant pile of money???
I love the 2x4 grip on the original Stemple!! That's craftsmanship!! Super interesting story of the development and evolution of this line of tools. Looking forward to additional videos.
The term "recreational submachine gun" is officially added to my lexicon.
Kind of redundant, I would argue all submachine guns are at least somewhat recreational
@@cameronsenna8979 I'm not gonna dispute that in the least.
@@cameronsenna8979 but saying "recreational submachine gun" kind of implies that you may also have a "business submachine gun" which is, in and of itself, pretty cool.....
Kind of the same way that "holy infant so tender and mild" implies that, somewhere out there, exists a chewy, spicy Jesus. I think that's something that should be uplifting to all of us.
One of your best videos yet!
They made something that totally wouldn't look out of place as an interwar period pistol-caliber light machine gun.
What an incredibly thorough background this episodes. Easily makes it one of my favorites!v
Man I wish the ATF weren’t such jerks. Automatic weapons just seem like such a fun time at the range!
I really enjoyed this video. The BRP STG U45/U9SF is a great package. They have gone from 12 to 15k but that is still a very budget friendly auto for folks to get into the segment. Your video(s) are gong to drive many more folks to the BRP Corp website and may increase the price, and there are a limited number of units available! I look forward to your next videos.
The "Suomi, Tikkakoski" (Model, maker of the original M31) marking on the side of the sights is actually a bit funny. Mainly because going on the markings you might have a STG 76/45 made by Tikkakoski in Ohio, Suomi. That'll confuse some one who'll inherit one of those in 2031.
2031, hell. Archaeologists in 2331 are going to have a field day trying to figure this one out.
Most amazing story. Great job on this video! Stemple was so smart with this idea.
this thing looks like if someone took a star wars blaster and converted it back into a regular gun.
18:50 I like how you revealing things in reverse for the 2008 model it's exciting
Im not baffled. Having a sub machine gun would be well mint. Cheers Ian.
Starting with an already heavy gauge receiver tube and adding effectively two more layers of additional steel must make it incredibly sturdy. I'd imagine small flaws in the diameters and circularity may lead to very unique wear patterns and minor changes in overall behavior among the different units. Definitely makes each one even more unique. I love those old wood CETME surplus stocks and handguards. I never knew they were used for something like this Thank you for sharing this one Ian!
"They named it the STG"
*Konnigratzer Marsch intensifies*
So much details in one long video, Ian. Amazing!!! 👍👍👍
I really need to stop watching these commercial machine gun videos. Being reminded of the 1986 MG registration prohibition really tugs my heartstrings each time.
Save up and buy one before they get even more expensive.
There is a simplistik elegance to the original design thats really doing it for me. Makes you want to build one in your garage.
I can imagine that the sales of these things are gonna skyrocket now that there's a video on them from a popular gun channel.
And I can also imagine that they're relatively cheap compared to other pre-'86 full-autos.
BRP only sells 99 guns a year. The receivers sit in a safe and they assemble the gun when its ordered.
Wait until he posts a shooting video. These things are fantastic shooters.
@@rodgerjohnson3375 too bad the supply is so small.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz I'd definitely prefer 1 of these stemple guns tho, I betcha they're a *SH!TTON* more controllable than a MAC-10 or similar guns.
I am SO glad you were able to get to the Shooters Outpost! It is a really cool gun store with a LOT of cool stuff in a museum attached to the store!
I love that they leaned into the WWII imagery.
It sells to all those boomers and late gen x kids with the money to buy new toys.
It sells to anyone with taste
In Sweden, we still had civilian recreational submachinegun competitions - primarily using, of course, the m/45B - up until quite recently. It might even still be going, but numbers dwindled as the guns dropped out of service.
I need to see that Suomi/stemple being shot, it looks proper "Booshank!" I would love to see you try it on your pcc range.
That is a great range concept. It allows someone who isn't used to recoil management and larger cartridges feel like they are shooting a LMG. The engineering is cool story too. Thanks for the video Ian!
As Ian pulls the mag release and says it’s another cap head screw is say “Oh WTF” Ian laughs and says “I think you’re starting to get the idea here. It’s like he knew his audience would have that reaction to that garbage.
Meh, not garbage: it's literally some dude in his shed, when some dude in his shed could do that sort of thing. For what's available to the manufacturer, it's quite reasonable and effective. Compare this to, say, the average zip gun.
Missed this channel, thanks recommended!
For all the apparent issues with a Semple 76/45, I'd sooner carry it than a STEN Mk II (or a Mk III for that matter).
Crude and reliable don't always sit in the same boat...
finally! was waiting for you to cover these.
I saw "Stemple" and thought we were going to talk about the shitstorm they created with their M60s after the 86 ban
That Orginal76 Has Some REAL Good Ideas For The Home Builder...
For Something Orginal, In Semi like The SGN9-SemiAuto Build
I'm Collecting Parts Now.
Figuring On An AR Dropp In Trigger For FCG..
I Had Looked At Semi Build Of PPs43..
BUT
Bolts To Light..
K8nda Dangerous
As someone not too familiar with US gun laws, the idea a metal tube with a few slots can be considered a 'registered machine gun' is bizarre!
We tend to compartmentalize things in the law. Barrel, stock...whatever, you can sell those without even a background check, mail order. Whatever houses the action, though, that's _the firearm_ in our legal definitions.
French regulation requires medical examination, and registration to purchase DEACTIVATED firearms. That is bizarre!
It happened many times leading up to the 1986 ban. Several manufacturers saw what was coming and stocked up on registered receivers in the form of serial numbered tubes(Stemple, STen and Sterling)and flat sideplates(Maxim, Browning, FN MAG). There are still new guns being manufactured on these stockpiles 35yrs later.
Its like an ugly duckling evolving into something of beauty. A very nice overview Ian I really liked how you showed the matching of parts and how they evolved.