When you do this: absolute magic When I do this: You Died Dodge timing is impeccable. Im terrible at dodging, but i do love this build. Going to try it and attempt to not die horribly.
@@Cellthegamer Thanks! Happy to report I this build kicks ass! I crushed 7 bosses (including Malekith & the fire giant) easy. The mini bosses had no chance. Dodging wasn't even an issue. Thank you for this awesome build!
I just wish they would be as proactive in boosting some other things as they are with nerfing stuff. There are plenty of cool builds that need some extra love.
@@johnathonjewell692exactly! Which is the best part. It is doing exactly what was intended, so "patching" it wouldn't really be needed. It's very similar to the whole comet azur shit. Extremely high damage, just as intended.
There eventually gonna find this out and Daddy Miyazaki will get the belt on us for another cheezy build. If its perfume bottles, its gonna be the bloddy thorns thats gonna be hit next.
Thanks for the build bro! I unfortunately killed Mohg before getting the mask so missed out on damage. :( It still melts everything though as long as you get your punish windows dialed. Done with Lion, Rellana, Hippo, Gaius, Messmer, Bayle and Romina. I do have to say though that outside of bosses it's probably my least favorite to play. I'm a STR goon at heart.
It’s not just a weapon or spell, it’s how he dodge attacks and how he position his self in the battle, new player will still have a hard time using this skill or weapon even if it has massive damage. For new players it is better to use tank build
@@PinoyReacts101 yeah I noticed how he knew when and when not to cast. I myself would’ve casted the spell at times where the window was too small and would’ve gotten hit and interrupted
Thank you for the very constructive and accurate comment. I am using this build myself, lvl 285 and Radahn Consort is still very tough to beat....for this spell to be 100% effective you need to get very close so all 3 thorns hit the target. This makes bosses such as Scudatree avatar and radahn very tough UNLESS you are using tons of consumables or you dodge effectively. People who shout "nerf nerf" should pls consider this
@@theamazingjack1168 Maternal and Albinauric have better Arcane scaling, which is ideal for this build. Also, having the Staff of the Guilty in the off-hand ( non-casting hand) provides a passive buff to thorn spells. You don't want to cast with it because it'll do less damage than the Maternal or Albinauric staff, you just want to have it in your left hand while casting the spell with your right hand.
I'm curious just how much damage this setup would deal at RL1 in the DLC. With Godrick's Rune, Marika Soreseal, arcane talisman and 2fingers talisman, you would have 25 faith and 25 arcane to, enough to use the staff and spell, but that only leaves you with 1 talisman out of the 4 recommended ones, so you would naturally see a power dropoff through those + lower stats. Still, I wonder just how viable it is. Going to give it a test run this week and see how it goes. I wasn't a huge fan of the 166 vanilla bosses at RL1 vs SL1 in prior fromsoft games, so any delicious cheese I can do to get the 42 DLC bosses over with, is fine with me.
The Swordlance is pretty strong with a strength build. I used it instead of Mohg's spear because it out-damaged the bleed burst of Mohg's, even with a ton of arcane skill points.
Does arcane scale the bleed damage that the thorns do? Like does arcane effect it any way? Cause I’ve been using it on a int/fth build & I’ll gladly go arc/fth if it does haha
to kill all the bosses i used the bleeding build but with a twinblade with seppuku with morre than 2k atk with flame grant me strength and golden vow with the twinblade talisman the two-handed sword talisman and the talisman tha buff after blood loss with the head of varre was bleeding anything in 3 hits was absolute funny to play with but i still need to kill Midra.
I swear by the time i start a playthrough with them, they will be nerfed 😅 This is so broken... Loved the Radahn Consort Bully. I hate that Boss (more for Lore reasons) with a passion - so i enjoy this ehehehe
@@Cellthegamer haha, that's what I'm trying to tell you. When I do equip both hands with staff, the right hand staff goes to the left, and the left has 2 staffs now, but the right hand has no weapon equipment...
magic scorpion instead of radagon icon and in the mix use magic shrouding cracked tear and blood sucking cracked tear over 50% more damage ur welcome...
They will probably make it throw the enemy or make it so that the tendrils can't all strike the same target. That's the ridiculous damage source. The spells damage is fine, it's that it can be manipulated to extreme damage by stacking the tendrils. Watch it catch the same bullet that took out the perfumes.
So unfortunate they released something like this. Before I was the only one using the damn thorn spells briar of sin and punishment because they are cool. Now everyone is using it because it's broken....
I'm looking forward to this spell becoming totally useless after FromSoft Nerf it 🙄 Usually the way, anything brokenly over powered. The quick fix always makes it brokenly useless. They never take the time to make a middle ground. So it will be a shame when this is totally destroyed, as it's a cool looking spell.
I bet they gonna nerf it right before i will wanna try it like with lightning bottle lol, watching guys in coop deleting everything with lightning bottle, trying it myself and like wtf 1.5k dmg, and then video on youtube here is what got nerfed:…., lightning perfume bottle, …, screaming
So how do u expect me to kill radahn with it when I'm only doing 2k damage ? To him . Either you're doing something and not telling us or using some sort of mod to make bosses weak let's be honest you're on a PC so it obviously is easy for u 💀💀💀💀 you're welcome for the view enjoy that YT money
Ever heard of a bleed proc? It's in the base game. Nothing new. Many things in Elden Ring deal percent based dmg. There's your knowledge check so the rest skill issue. Git Gud scrub.
Dumbass you are the type of person who would level a stat that is not related to the weapon scaling and complain it's not good. And if you want to kill consort radhan then get fucking good and not complain. This guy is trying to help make a fun build for everyone, And he maybe is on new game 1 so no wonder why the bosses health bar is so low
Oh my god, it's the thorns that pervents anyone from becoming elden lord
Oh yeah 😮😅
yeah those perverts dont know what hit them
@@theclaybeartravels3596 he said prevents not perverts 😂
@@mojiereymojica0810 yep, I know that but it's still spelled wrong lol
This is just Ancient Dragons’ Lightning Strike for sorcery. It’s about time
🔥🔥
Lead a life by impalement, you shall die by impaling thorns.
Messmer learnt well.
One change id recommend: use Alberich’s set for the chest piece and leggings. They both increase thorn sorceries
Yeah those were cool and all but was hoping to see how this build works against the strongest boss in the game, Sir Gideon Ofnir
When you do this: absolute magic
When I do this: You Died
Dodge timing is impeccable. Im terrible at dodging, but i do love this build. Going to try it and attempt to not die horribly.
Good luck
@@Cellthegamer Thanks! Happy to report I this build kicks ass! I crushed 7 bosses (including Malekith & the fire giant) easy. The mini bosses had no chance. Dodging wasn't even an issue. Thank you for this awesome build!
You slap Midra so hard he loses his head !
Nice job for all your fights, your dodges, timing, damages, everything is crazy ! 🤘
Much appreciated ♥️
Thx so much I was stuck on mussmer for 10 hours and I finally beat him wit the thorns
You are welcome 🤗
Hope they don't nerf this aswell . It's like there nerfing the fun out of the game
Like how they nerfed the lightning bottle?
I just wish they would be as proactive in boosting some other things as they are with nerfing stuff. There are plenty of cool builds that need some extra love.
@@chrishouterman4772 I agree 👍
If they dont nerf this then theres a lottt of builds that should be buffed. otherwise a small nerf wouldnt hurt.
pretty sure they nerfed it, could not beat consort rhadan with it, i hate that boss
**insert boss name** you've been a thorn in my side
Tarnished: now there's an idea
Thank you I would die for you, I’ve been stuck on the guy for days, this worked literally third try😭
You are welcome ❤
You should wear mad tongue alberich set since it boosts thorn sorceries
I preferred defense more cause this build makes you get a lot of hits 😃
DESTROYED Giaus with thorns after trying tons of different weapons. Love me some thorns
The New Meta,
Fromsoft would nerf it too, so guys use it as long you can lol
Waiting for nerf 🙃
Its working as intended tho. Rolling Sparks wasn't. I feel like a overall balancing nerf won't come for awhile
@@johnathonjewell692exactly! Which is the best part. It is doing exactly what was intended, so "patching" it wouldn't really be needed. It's very similar to the whole comet azur shit. Extremely high damage, just as intended.
There eventually gonna find this out and Daddy Miyazaki will get the belt on us for another cheezy build. If its perfume bottles, its gonna be the bloddy thorns thats gonna be hit next.
Thanks for reminding me, I already disabled automatic updates.
Thanks for the build bro! I unfortunately killed Mohg before getting the mask so missed out on damage. :(
It still melts everything though as long as you get your punish windows dialed. Done with Lion, Rellana, Hippo, Gaius, Messmer, Bayle and Romina. I do have to say though that outside of bosses it's probably my least favorite to play. I'm a STR goon at heart.
It’s not just a weapon or spell, it’s how he dodge attacks and how he position his self in the battle, new player will still have a hard time using this skill or weapon even if it has massive damage. For new players it is better to use tank build
Yeah you can see he's pretty skilled in knowing how and when to dodge/jump and get in position to safely pull it off.
@@PinoyReacts101 yeah I noticed how he knew when and when not to cast. I myself would’ve casted the spell at times where the window was too small and would’ve gotten hit and interrupted
Thank you for the very constructive and accurate comment. I am using this build myself, lvl 285 and Radahn Consort is still very tough to beat....for this spell to be 100% effective you need to get very close so all 3 thorns hit the target. This makes bosses such as Scudatree avatar and radahn very tough UNLESS you are using tons of consumables or you dodge effectively.
People who shout "nerf nerf" should pls consider this
Use alberich set very big and usefull
Witch staff should I use to cast the spell?
Maternal Staff or Albinauric staff
@@Cellthegamer how come those two would other staffs work as well like lusat’s staff or do they not scale well with thorn spells?
@@theamazingjack1168 Maternal and Albinauric have better Arcane scaling, which is ideal for this build. Also, having the Staff of the Guilty in the off-hand ( non-casting hand) provides a passive buff to thorn spells. You don't want to cast with it because it'll do less damage than the Maternal or Albinauric staff, you just want to have it in your left hand while casting the spell with your right hand.
Magic scorpion charm is Can replace the other talisman
I'm curious just how much damage this setup would deal at RL1 in the DLC. With Godrick's Rune, Marika Soreseal, arcane talisman and 2fingers talisman, you would have 25 faith and 25 arcane to, enough to use the staff and spell, but that only leaves you with 1 talisman out of the 4 recommended ones, so you would naturally see a power dropoff through those + lower stats. Still, I wonder just how viable it is. Going to give it a test run this week and see how it goes. I wasn't a huge fan of the 166 vanilla bosses at RL1 vs SL1 in prior fromsoft games, so any delicious cheese I can do to get the 42 DLC bosses over with, is fine with me.
Used this to finally beat the DLC’s final boss. Can’t beat that blood loss.
Finally. I was looking for a strong mages build and not have to change to a dex/arcane using bleed poke and an enchanted shield.
The Swordlance is pretty strong with a strength build. I used it instead of Mohg's spear because it out-damaged the bleed burst of Mohg's, even with a ton of arcane skill points.
What is the difference between ash of war golden wov and incantacion golden wov
Incantation is more powerful than aow by like ~5%. Not sure about the exact number because I haven’t looked at the wiki in a while
@@kn1ghtsm1t38 oh then ı will use incantation
New sup keep it up .. u help me a lot
Thanks for the sub! 😁
I’m running this spell on an int/faith build and it still hits everything like a truck lol
Max faith - int - arc will make crazy damage
I completely forgot this staff existed, gonna go farm for it
You also forgot to mention that you have to be really good at dodging lol
Well...unless you're going to turtle, which is viable (use a great shield though) you gotta know how to dodge at least done of a boss attacks.
think you missed Raptor of the Mist
Well..the Game doesn't Play FULLY from itself...lol
I used this build to FINALLY beat Radahn. fuck that guy. I liked and subbed
Thanks so much 😊
Works fine with int build with the minimal fth it requires
Does arcane scale the bleed damage that the thorns do? Like does arcane effect it any way? Cause I’ve been using it on a int/fth build & I’ll gladly go arc/fth if it does haha
Yes arc is better than int for bleed 🩸
@@Cellthegamer oh for sure, idk why I always thought arcane didn’t effect thorn sorceries at all haha
Arc/int with arc being the main focus
I use Ancient Dragons Lightning Strike that deal more damage
The timing is bananas
Thx SIROBE !
to kill all the bosses i used the bleeding build but with a twinblade with seppuku with morre than 2k atk with flame grant me strength and golden vow with the twinblade talisman the two-handed sword talisman and the talisman tha buff after blood loss with the head of varre was bleeding anything in 3 hits was absolute funny to play with but i still need to kill Midra.
Bayle is still a badass boss
Very strong incantation, but isn’t it fun when you actually fight them?
He made the Bayle fight so much harder than it has to be. Get close to him, the thorns will hit him more
Most OP sorcery probably gonna get a nerf.
nice speedrun
I mean it’s cool, but I still preferred the Lightning bottles
What the hell did you do to dodge the big golden circle attack in Radahn? It looks like you just jumped but that’s never worked
Raptor of the mists aow
@@Cellthegamer ok thank you 😂 I knew I’d miss something important
@@CellthegamerI did it!!! Thank you so much!!!
I swear by the time i start a playthrough with them, they will be nerfed 😅 This is so broken... Loved the Radahn Consort Bully. I hate that Boss (more for Lore reasons) with a passion - so i enjoy this ehehehe
I felt like you were just toying with maliketh lmao
Kinda yes 🤣 I love maliketh a lot 🔥
bleed build always on toptier
GG
How come I can't equip mine with 2 staffs. Whenever I do, both staffs go to the left hand only??? Help
Put each staff in a different hand 😄
@@Cellthegamer haha, that's what I'm trying to tell you. When I do equip both hands with staff, the right hand staff goes to the left, and the left has 2 staffs now, but the right hand has no weapon equipment...
Do we have to level the staff of gulty to max
no
@@Cellthegamer thank you
Aniquilados de boss espinho man rs
Mix it with some madness and it’s ungodly broken
magic scorpion instead of radagon icon and in the mix use magic shrouding cracked tear and blood sucking cracked tear over 50% more damage ur welcome...
I know but I don't wanna use anything lower the defense like charm talisman or rakshasa set 😃
Perfuming bosses.
Chicken winging bosses.
Poking bosses ouch!
İs this works agains divine beast warriros at enir lim?
Sure 😄
I’m on NG+5 with 18 blessings and I can’t best messmer. Doesn’t seem to make that much of a difference in NG+5.
For a lvl 200 the stats How would they be balanced?
Use the same stats but go with more int and faith 😀
@@Cellthegamer thanks for the informazion, i love your build and your video ✨
bayle is a drake midir is a dragon
Why the finger staff ? I thought it just boost finger sorcery?
Scales from arcane
what was the raptor of mists aow for?
To dodge Radahn's nuke attack
i was farming mohg and there were like 5 people that killed him with this shit before anyone could even do anything lol.
😂😂
I never got the chance yet, and fromsoft didn't neft it, meaning it's supposed to be powerful.
They will probably make it throw the enemy or make it so that the tendrils can't all strike the same target. That's the ridiculous damage source. The spells damage is fine, it's that it can be manipulated to extreme damage by stacking the tendrils. Watch it catch the same bullet that took out the perfumes.
@@Asgaardiangatekeeper it really shouldn’t be nerfed. You have to risk getting close to whatever your trying to kill to get that affect.
@@tragiic333 You are right, but tistic screeching PvP cryhards, are all screaming for a nerf right now.
Betcha a twenny they nerf it. They love to give stuff only to nerf.
Where sir gideon😢
Ng1 lol🎉
So unfortunate they released something like this.
Before I was the only one using the damn thorn spells briar of sin and punishment because they are cool.
Now everyone is using it because it's broken....
I'm looking forward to this spell becoming totally useless after FromSoft Nerf it 🙄
Usually the way, anything brokenly over powered. The quick fix always makes it brokenly useless. They never take the time to make a middle ground.
So it will be a shame when this is totally destroyed, as it's a cool looking spell.
What Ng is this?
First run
First!!!!
😁😁♥️
why dont use albinaric staff instead of maternal?
Bleed build up Nerfed
11:16 umm excuse me what the actual fuck was that?
Rapter of the mist ash of war
Raptor of the mists aow 😄
@@Cellthegamerraptors of the HAHA U MISSED!
@Cellthegamer how tf did you take no stager or dmg??
no ass of war - dislike
first🗿
I swear From will nerf everything besides summons at this point☹
Fromshitware will nerf this as well
I bet they gonna nerf it right before i will wanna try it like with lightning bottle lol, watching guys in coop deleting everything with lightning bottle, trying it myself and like wtf 1.5k dmg, and then video on youtube here is what got nerfed:…., lightning perfume bottle, …, screaming
Rolling Sparks was legit a bug tho. Not a nerf.
So how do u expect me to kill radahn with it when I'm only doing 2k damage ? To him . Either you're doing something and not telling us or using some sort of mod to make bosses weak let's be honest you're on a PC so it obviously is easy for u 💀💀💀💀 you're welcome for the view enjoy that YT money
You have to -seriously- git gud 😐
Ever heard of a bleed proc? It's in the base game. Nothing new. Many things in Elden Ring deal percent based dmg. There's your knowledge check so the rest skill issue. Git Gud scrub.
Dumbass you are the type of person who would level a stat that is not related to the weapon scaling and complain it's not good. And if you want to kill consort radhan then get fucking good and not complain. This guy is trying to help make a fun build for everyone, And he maybe is on new game 1 so no wonder why the bosses health bar is so low
This needs to be patched asap